Bhuvneshwar Kumar injury opens Pandora’s Box; J Bumrah and Hardik Pandya had refused to go to NCA

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Bhuvneshwar Kumar injury opens Pandora’s Box; J Bumrah and Hardik Pandya had refused to go to NCA

Bhuvneshwar Kumar being diagnosed with a sports hernia has once again opened the Pandora’s Box. While the diagnosis raises question mark over the team of specialists working at the National Cricket Academy (NCA) as they had recently given him a clean chit, it has now also come to the fore that the duo of Hardik Pandya and Jasprit Bumrah had refused to undergo rehabilitation at the NCA post injury.

Speaking to IANS, a BCCI functionary revealed that while the protocol says that both the contracted players should have been at the NCA for rehab, the players made it clear to the team management that they wouldn’t be going to Bengaluru.

“Both Pandya and Bumrah made it clear to the team management that they wouldn’t wish to go to the academy for rehabilitation and that is why while Yogesh Parmar kept an eye on Pandya, Nitin Patel studied every process that Bumrah followed during the rehab. Yes, they are contracted players and they should have been at the NCA, but the stakes are high and for a sportsperson injuries are a serious matter. So, beyond a point you have to allow them to take a call that they are comfortable with,” the functionary revealed.


In fact, with India trainer Nick Webb busy with the team, both Bumrah and Pandya underwent training under Delhi Capitals trainer Rajnikanth Sivagnanam rather than heading to the NCA. Rajnikanth was in the race for the post of India trainer and was beaten to the post by Webb.

Coming back to Bhuvneshwar, the pacer has been at the NCA on and off post the World Cup as he has looked to gain 100 per cent fitness. But the team at the NCA failed to spot the issue and just two games into his return to the national side -- against Windies -- he started complaining of discomfort.

“He was at the NCA for close to three months and without getting into details on the number of tests done on him in Bengaluru, all I will say is that he was checked for all possible issues. But strangely, the sportsman’s hernia wasn’t diagnosed. And no sooner was he tested in Mumbai that it was caught. Now make what you will of this.


“Interestingly, this isn’t the first time that a player has had to face this sort of an issue at the NCA. Wriddhiman Saha episode is there for all to see and now we have a scenario where Bhuvi will miss a crucial series against New Zealand and we all know what he brings to the table in conditions which aid swing and seam. He will have to undergo a surgery and should be back in time for the Indian Premier League,” the functionary explained.

“Thankfully, Bhuvneshwar was quick to inform the team management of the discomfort and Nitin and the support staff was quick to look into it and get him tested in Mumbai. We did follow the protocol and he was only brought into the unit after he was declared fit and available by the NCA.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...o-go-to-nca/story-VzVGZ8FCsah80lbZijz0PN.html

Rahul Dravid isn't doing a great job as it seems

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Same issue both sides of the border.

 

[Titan24]

Mismanagement of injuries and lack of trust of Indian players on NCA is definitely a big concern Indian cricket. The way BCCI present them to be highly professional, this issue definitely raises big doubts regarding that as if you cant manage NCA and injuries of international players atleast then its pretty poor professionalism.

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Time for pak bowlers to take stand for themselves Now.

 

[m.awais]

Lolz. Same story across the border as well..

 

[JaDed]

Good to see bowlers have a voice now though..

 

[Monsee]

Bhuvneshwar Kumar being diagnosed with a sports hernia has once again opened the Pandora’s Box. While the diagnosis raises question mark over the team of specialists working at the National Cricket Academy (NCA) as they had recently given him a clean chit, it has now also come to the fore that the duo of Hardik Pandya and Jasprit Bumrah had refused to undergo rehabilitation at the NCA post injury.

"He will have to undergo a surgery and should be back in time for the Indian Premier League,” the functionary explained.


https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...o-go-to-nca/story-VzVGZ8FCsah80lbZijz0PN.html

Rahul Dravid isn't doing a great job as it seems

Oh, wow, all is well then! And everybody lived happily there after...the end

 

[Mean&Green]

IPL is a massive concern for these players they cannot aggrevate an injury and miss out the IPL the stakes are so high they can miss a whole year of international cricket but they will not skip a season of IPL its truly understandable they will make more money playing in IPL than playing for India in a year. That is of course for the big names like Bumrah and Hardik not every player

 

[The Viper]

Wow utter incompetence from Indian NCA.

They have some talented players and they cannot risk mistreating players like this.

 

[Abdullah719]

NCA refuses to conduct Jasprit Bumrah's fitness test

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MUMBAI: The BCCI's National Cricket Academy (NCA) in Bangalore has refused to conduct pace bowler Jasprit Bumrah's fitness test. The fast bowler was in Bangalore this week - after bowling in the nets with the Indian team in Visakhapatnam on December 16 - to undergo the mandatory fitness test ahead of a comeback.

The concerned team at the NCA - led by director Rahul Dravid and physiotherapist Ashish Kaushik - "politely" told Bumrah that they would not be conducting the test. TOI understands that the Dravid-led NCA is "unconvinced" about how they can conduct the fitness test when Bumrah was consulting his own set of specialists on the way to recovery after he was diagnosed with mild back stress in September this year and had also flown to the United Kingdom to consult doctors.

TOI has learnt that Bumrah had conveyed to the team management that he was "not keen" on going to the NCA.

TOI tried reaching Dravid and Kaushik for their comments but they were unavailable to comment. Bumrah too could not be contacted.

There were media reports in November about how Bumrah had been consulting private specialists as he tried to chart his return. Those who saw him in Visakhapatnam a few days ago say "he's worked his way back to supreme fitness and is looking very good". To quote a senior member of the team management "Bumrah is like a mountain now. That's how good he's looking after the recovery process".

After the net session in Visakhapatnam, Bumrah flew to Bangalore to be at the NCA where his fitness test was scheduled. Dravid is learnt to have met the bowler on Wednesday and told him that NCA would not be conducting the test. Dravid's views were based on the simple logic that "if NCA hasn't treated Bumrah, how can it give him a certificate that he's fit to play? What if tomorrow something happens? How can the NCA agree to certify something about which it doesn't have a clue?"

The NCA's earlier decision was to invite Team India trainer Nick Webb to Bangalore to conduct the test for Bumrah. However, Dravid conveyed to Team India's assistant trainer Yogesh Parmar that Bumrah's fitness test would not be conducted at the NCA. "They have told him, 'you're fine. So there's no need of a fitness test. You should go and seek it from the specialists you've been working with because they're the people who have been testing you and know your fitness status the best", sources said.

Bumrah's hesitation in heading to the NCA stems from the fact that some other players had not given a positive assessment about their experiences at the academy. In fact, some players called it "scary".

"He did not want to go there. Most senior players don't want to go to NCA. Instead of addressing that concern and understanding why players don't want to come there, the NCA is turning him away. That's not how we need to deal with a cricketer who's changed the face of India's pace bowling over the last two years. It was a sad day," add sources.

Meanwhile, sources at the NCA say "Rahul (Dravid) is still very new to the NCA. It's only been a few months since he's taken over. He's still trying to comprehend how things have been functioning at the academy. To be fair to the NCA, more than 200 cricketers from across the country come there to train and learn. It's not just about one or two individuals. Rahul is trying to put better systems in place".

However, right now, the bowler can't understand how exactly he is supposed to clear the mandatory fitness test, considering the NCA has refused him.

Bumrah's IPL franchise Mumbai Indians too have always ensured that the bowler is adequately taken care of. "All the little details of how the bowler is at any given moment in time have been so important that even the owners at Mumbai Indians have minutely followed every development," said those in the know.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...bumrahs-fitness-test/articleshow/72896075.cms

 

[jagatk]

Someone needs to grow a pair and tell dravid to sack the idiots at NCA, bhuvi's misdiagnosis shows the quality of the medics involved.

 

[Forum363]

I think the NCA is absolutely spot on in this regard.

Whatever the reason for Bumrah asking private help, he needs to continue and ask them for final confirmation of his fitness.

He can’t complete the recovery process through the private specialists and then expect the NCA to do a quick to-yo test/net session and say he’s fully fit when they’ve not seen the details of the injury/ recovery process. If he’s selected for a big tour and gets injured the NCA would face the heat.


Having said that, clearly there’s a issue with the NCA when the top crickets are avoiding going there. This needs to be addressed separately and as a matter of priority.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

NCA are a bunch of clowns.

(PCB are the same)
[MENTION=144683]Forum363[/MENTION] Bumrah is asking them to their jobs, like literally

 

[King_Kohli]

”We will also try and see whether NCA physios can come and help Jasprit in Mumbai. We will keep monitoring under NCA,” says
@SGanguly99

 

[King_Kohli]

“I will find out what exactly is the reason. NCA has to be first and final point of every international cricketer,” Ganguly said on Friday.

Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) President Sourav Ganguly assured that the National Cricket Academy will be evaluating Jasprit Bumrah’s fitness after numerous reports suggesting that the pacer won't undergo the test in Bengaluru.

Bumrah is currently recovering from his back injury and was recently seen bowling during India's net practice ahead of their second ODI against West Indies in Visakhapatnam.

“I am not aware of the issue. But Indian players will have to go back to NCA and we will make sure it’s comfortable and logistically easier,” Ganguly was quoted saying by PTI in Kolkata.

 

[Abdullah719]

Will speak to Rahul Dravid: Sourav Ganguly on Jasprit Bumrah's fitness test

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KOLKATA: BCCI president Sourav Ganguly will find out what exactly is the matter after National Cricket Academy (NCA) in Bangalore refused to conduct pace bowler Jasprit Bumrah's fitness test.

"I will find out what exactly is the reason. NCA has to be first and final point of every international cricketer," Ganguly said on Friday.

"It's just been a couple of months since I have taken over. I will speak to Rahul (Dravid). I met him a few times. We will understand the problem and solve it.

"From outside, and who has not seen this very closely, Bumrah has been injured for a while. I was not part of system while he was sent. What happened? But if you ask me, NCA is a place for Indian cricketers. Everything has to go through the NCA so we will find out," the former India captain added.

Bumrah, who is making his road back to recovery after a stress fracture to his back, bowled in the Indian nets during the second match against West Indies earlier this week.

However, according to media reports the premier India quick will not be able to undergo the mandatory fitness test at the NCA for a number of reasons.

Sources had told IANS that Bumrah had conveyed to the team management that he was "not keen" on going to the NCA for rehab post the stress fracture.

The Rahul Dravid-led NCA is also unsure of conducting the fitness test because Bumrah was consulting his own specialists in the United Kingdom on way to recovery and was not at NCA in Bangalore.

"NCA has to be the first and final point for International cricketers. it's a place for Indian cricketers. Everyone has to go through NCA," asserted Ganguly.

"They play cricket all over the places year long. We will also try and see whether NCA physios can come and help Jasprit in Mumbai. We will keep the monitoring under NCA. We want to make sure there's best people with NCA," he added.

Ganguly recently visited NCA and held discussions with Dravid, who was appointed the head of cricket there in July this year.

"There's huge hope from Rahul. He's been a tremendous player. You will get perfection and commitment. We will sort it out," Ganguly said.

"We have given Dravid the charge at the NCA to get it more organised. Ultimately we will extend his role. I've spoken to him and the office-bearers. You will get to know the details in a week's time," Ganguly added.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...itness-test/articleshow/72900007.cms?from=mdr

 

[Abdullah719]

‘If anybody has to treat players, they will have to come to NCA’: Sourav Ganguly

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Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) president Sourav Ganguly set the record straight on the National Cricket Academy (NCA), asserting that all senior players must go through the process put in place at the NCA for post-injury rehabilitation. He also defended the idea of a four-nation Super Series involving Australia, England and one more nation, saying it makes for quality cricket in what could be a niche tournament for the future.

In a chat with Hindustan Times, Ganguly spoke on the proposed four-nation Super Series, revamping the National Cricket Academy, why he gives a thumbs up to the “Yo-Yo test” and how he plans to bring the crowds back to Test matches.

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There is some apprehension among India bowlers about using National Cricket Academy (NCA) facilities. Could you shed some light?

I met Rahul Dravid yesterday, and we have put a system in place. The bowlers will have to go to the NCA. If anybody (else) has to treat them, they will have to come to NCA.

Do players have issues with the NCA training personnel or facilities?

Whatever may be the reason, we will accommodate everything. We will also make sure the players are comfortable and they don’t feel left out or out of place. So, we will do it that way.

A lot needs to be done at the NCA. How do you plan to go about it?

We are going full throttle with the NCA. Construction work will start (at the new land) and it will be a state-of-the-art unit. In 18 months time, if we are still there, you will see an NCA that will be spick and span.

The idea of a four-nation, limited-overs Super Series—involving India, Australia, England and another nation—how far do you plan to go to make it a reality?

It’s a proposal. Let’s see where it goes. The reason behind it is only to have a good, competitive tournament. So, that’s where it stands. We will have to get clearances from the broadcasters and ICC for a four-nation tournament. Then, there are the Future Tours Programme (FTP) areas to look at, as to where do we fit it within the FTP. But it’s just a way to create a niche tournament. We are looking for quality cricket. What we see today, is only bilaterals happening. People want to see a high class tournament and we are attempting to do it. Look at the crowds in the Boxing Day Test between Australia and New Zealand. So, that’s also one of the reasons. Pink Ball Test was one such effort to generate crowd interest.

Have you thought of the fourth nation?

It depends upon availability. We will try and pick the strongest team. The basic intention is that the standard of cricket should be very high.

How do you react to those who say only the three big Boards want to make more money?

How? There will be a fourth team as well. We have to just fit this tournament in the gap, which is the biggest challenge. The agenda just is a high class tournament with very powerful teams put together. Very rarely do you get to see India, Australia, England and South Africa or a New Zealand play a quadrangular tournament.

Many believe the BCCI doesn’t do enough to support smaller boards.

We do, when we go to their countries and the amount of money they generate (from that tour). We played the Pink Ball Test with Bangladesh, spending the amount of money.

Test cricket no longer has the sort of competition that it had, when you were playing. Your thoughts?

It (competition) is not there. It would have been great to have a Test series among the three (India, Australia and England). But that would require a lot of time, because they are all booked with the FTP and ICC Test Championship. (Then) We have the IPL, the Big Bash. There is not enough time.

But don’t you agree other teams are weak because their boards are weak?

I don’t think so. The West Indies team of earlier times—of Viv Richards, (Curtly) Amrose and (Courtney) Walsh—I am sure they did not have more money than they have now. It is never linked with money.

Are you saying one can always raise the bar with performance?

Yes, of course. Look, this Super Series is with the pure intention of good quality cricket.

When you look at the crowd the Boxing day Test generated in Australia, would you agree it is time India has its own showcase annual Test match, a day-night Test probably?

We will have to work towards that. It just gets people interested to come. If New Zealand was playing Australia somewhere else, on some other day, it would not have got the same attention. But Boxing Day gets people together. That’s why it is about trying to create events. The Pink Ball Test was an event. It will happen all around the country. It happened in Kolkata; it will happen in Mumbai, Bangalore, Gujarat and it will bring people back to Test cricket.

But to make it a regular feature, will you need to factor in a lot of other things?

One will have to look at playing conditions. Maybe, have one day-night Test match in a series.

Did the India team take it (day-night Test) well?

The team took it well. They were taken in by the people who came to watch. There were 60,000 people for Test cricket. It was like when we played and there were a lakh watching that (2001, Eden Gardens) Test against Australia. But at that time there was no T20. Kolkata had one game a year. Now it has nine games—seven IPL matches, one ODI and one Test match; so people have started choosing. Earlier there was no choice. It was party time for people and they would look forward to going to Eden Gardens with families in the winter. They would long to see (Sachin) Tendulkar bat, (Rahul) Dravid bat, (Anil) Kumble bowl. Now they get to see them (India cricketers) every day. So, it’s about making events.

The Pink Ball Test was your first big statement as president...

I didn’t think there would be so many people. I thought we would get good crowds, but not so many. We sold 15 tickets every minute. When our ticket-booking partners put up tickets online, they were sold out in two hours. That’s when we realised, this is big.

What’s your stance on the mandatory Yo-Yo fitness test for selection?

Every team management should have freedom to make its own decisions. If Virat Kohli, Ravi Shastri and the trainers feel that’s the way, so be it. We don’t need to poke our noses all the time. If they demand, the captain of the India team and trainers demand that we need to be at this (fitness) level, so be it.

Should this not be extended to the U-19 team as well?

Yes, why not? If you want to do it with the senior team, might as well do it when you are young. It makes it a lot easier.

We have a World Cup year coming. It’s an opportunity for the India team to set right their ICC world events record with the T20 World Cup...

I am sure Virat is putting all his efforts towards that. Ultimately, the players have to play. We are putting good systems in place. The players have to win and they have the team to win. But T20 cricket demands freedom to play freely without worrying about your place in the side. We as people, who are working behind the scenes, will try and create systems so that they can play without having to worry about anything else.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...rav-ganguly/story-5DKPahuHtIc6c2NzC6ebMP.html

 

[Slog]

I think the NCA is absolutely spot on in this regard.

Whatever the reason for Bumrah asking private help, he needs to continue and ask them for final confirmation of his fitness.

He can’t complete the recovery process through the private specialists and then expect the NCA to do a quick to-yo test/net session and say he’s fully fit when they’ve not seen the details of the injury/ recovery process. If he’s selected for a big tour and gets injured the NCA would face the heat.


Having said that, clearly there’s a issue with the NCA when the top crickets are avoiding going there. This needs to be addressed separately and as a matter of priority.

Probably they have more stringent minimum requirements and players do not want to miss out on cricket and ipl due to NCA not clearing them

 

[cricketjoshila]

Probably they have more stringent minimum requirements and players do not want to miss out on cricket and ipl due to NCA not clearing them

NCA has no such power to stop players from playing in IPL.

During IPL players are looked after by their own teams medical outfit.

NCA medical outfit head is ****. Ashish Kaushik was Poor appointment.

He sends players for assessment to a clinic he founded with his wife and his wife still owns.

He has appointment was not through even an interview.

The trainer there soham desai is a partner of former India trainer Basu. When Desai was appointed, Basu was still the Indian team trainer.it was Basu who had set the questions of the written exam that Desai qualified.


He has messed up injuries of Saha,Pandya,Bhuvi in last 2 years.

Mumbai Indians maintain a world class medical outfit round the year. Various trainers from different IPL teams work there.

 

[Abdullah719]

Hardik Pandya Fails Fitness Test With India Set To Announce Squads For New Zealand Tour On Sunday

With all-rounder Hardik Pandya's anticipated return getting delayed after he failed the fitness test, India's limited overs squads are unlikely to be tinkered with much for the upcoming six-week tour of New Zealand. Starting January 24, India will be playing five T20 Internationals, three ODIs and two Test matches, and squads for the tour will be picked on Sunday. Pandya was expected to make the Indian squad after remaining out of action for four months due to a back injury but the all-rounder could not clear the mandatory fitness test, indicating that it will take him more to recover from the surgery he recently had.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/har...d-tour-on-sunday-2162598?pfrom=home-sshowcase