Boris Johnson to visit India in bid to boost defence ties

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Prime Minister Boris Johnson is set to make a long-delayed trip to India this week in a bid to strengthen security ties with the country.

He will meet his counterpart Narendra Modi in New Delhi on Friday, with talks focused on defence and trade.

It will be Mr Johnson's first major trip to India as PM after previous visits were postponed due to Covid.

The UK has been trying to persuade India to reduce its reliance on Moscow since Russia invaded Ukraine.

Last month, Foreign Secretary Liz Truss visited India in an attempt to get the country to impose stronger sanctions against Russia and to cooperate more closely on trade, defence, energy and food security.

India has not criticised Russia directly since it invaded Ukraine on 24 February and did not condemn the invasion at a United Nations vote on the issue.

Mr Johnson's trip will also include a visit to Gujarat on Thursday, India's fifth-largest state, where he is expected to announce a major investment in key industries in the UK and India, as well as new collaboration on science, health and technology.

'Strategic partner'
Ahead of his visit, the prime minister said: "As we face threats to our peace and prosperity from autocratic states, it is vital that democracies and friends stick together.

"India, as a major economic power and the world's largest democracy, is a highly valued strategic partner for the UK in these uncertain times.

"My visit to India will deliver on the things that really matter to the people of both our nations - from job creation and economic growth to energy security and defence."

In April last year, Mr Johnson cancelled a trip to India when the south Asian nation was added to the UK's red list, meaning people returning from there had to quarantine in a hotel for 10 days.

Initially the government had insisted the trip would go ahead, despite India's soaring coronavirus cases and the new delta variant.

Instead Mr Johnson said he would speak to the Indian prime minister online, after questions as to why India had not ben put on the red list.

A trip in January 2021 to India was also cancelled due to the UK lockdown.

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UK and US ultimately want India to buy their weapons instead of Russian.

Boris doesnt care for Indians in poverty.
 
Yep, forget Boris, Modhi doesn't care for the millions that live on the poverty line.

Imo India will slowly move away from Russian arms as Russia is no longer the Soviet Union. UK and US arms companies will be laughing all the way to the bank.
 
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Its crazy when you so many poor, hundreds of millions you spend so much on arms. Pakistan also spends too much but it has no choice with the enemy India next door.

Imo India will slowly move away from Russian arms as Russia is no longer the Soviet Union. UK and US arms companies will be laughing all the way to the bank.

Yep, that's the reason for the visits. Problem is the American state of the art weapons will put Hugh pressure on Pakistan to try to level up. And the puppets that have just been installed in Pakistan will sing to the tunes to the yanks.
 
Smart move to be honest, India is a gigantic market. We already have taught them to talk and think in our language, this is the ultimate soft power. Selling arms will be a nice little boost to the coffers, but the big bucks will come from using that language mastery to get them to buy into our entertainment industry.

India as a nation and its people always open their arms to Brits or white westerners. Go Wagah border you will see Indian in trousers while the opposite still wear their tradinonal dress. Brits ruled over India with around 40k troops only, it was like taking candy off a baby.

Now India will also accept buying arms, to please the westerners.

Goodness Gracious Me Coopers werent just someones great imagination.
 
It’s never about the size, but about the performance.

30000 British troops waltz into nation of a billion, and ruled the country for 300 years.

15000 British kingsmen were ruling what was then USA, and left the nation speaking in English.

There’s a reason why Modi has been begging this small kingdom island to lift immigration quota for Indians.

The UK doesn’t pretend to be a Kingdom, it is a Kingdom of 4 countries, yes look this up.
 
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As for the topic, its interesting to see how India is gonna maintain its relations with nato countries and russia and making sure no one gets offended
 
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We are entering a new cold war phase. The west is keen to keep India on its side.

I don't see Modi backing down to any demands either. He knows the west needs the Indian market, and needs India as a counter weight to China in the region.
 
We are entering a new cold war phase. The west is keen to keep India on its side.

I don't see Modi backing down to any demands either. He knows the west needs the Indian market, and needs India as a counter weight to China in the region.

As long as it's a cold war, every party will keep each other's in check.

But I do fear that, it won't take much time for the cold war to become full fledged war. Till last year I thought global wars is impossible but my views has been shaken now a days. It may happen.
 
We are entering a new cold war phase. The west is keen to keep India on its side.

I don't see Modi backing down to any demands either. He knows the west needs the Indian market, and needs India as a counter weight to China in the region.

India are in a very strong position and good on them....the western countries are fighting over India and I guess the ball is in their court and they don't have to be dictated to by the Western countries.
 
As for the topic, its interesting to see how India is gonna maintain its relations with nato countries and russia and making sure no one gets offended

You will see this now but IK has already noticed and preached about it on national TV. India's foreign policy puts its interests first before any one else's
 
You will see this now but IK has already noticed and preached about it on national TV. India's foreign policy puts its interests first before any one else's

Well to be fair, Pakistan doesn't have the same advantages as India so it will be futile to expect the same.
 
UK and US ultimately want India to buy their weapons instead of Russian.

Boris doesnt care for Indians in poverty.

We don't need bailouts or aid to survive, so doesn't matter what Boris cares for. What matters is what we care for.
 
India as a nation and its people always open their arms to Brits or white westerners. Go Wagah border you will see Indian in trousers while the opposite still wear their tradinonal dress. Brits ruled over India with around 40k troops only, it was like taking candy off a baby.

Now India will also accept buying arms, to please the westerners.

Goodness Gracious Me Coopers werent just someones great imagination.

Brits didn't rule over present day pakistan? Wonder what that baby gave away.

Unlike few other countries, India works as per its own interests and isnt dictated by anyone.

While others are supposedly selling their country for a few $$$$. There they don't even need to send troops. Just a few dollars m


Even the former Pakistani PM accepted that.
 
Well to be fair, Pakistan doesn't have the same advantages as India so it will be futile to expect the same.

No doubt but we were getting a good deal from Russia for Oil and gas. Not as low as India but 30% cheaper than what we pay now. Would've really helped our trade deficit
 
New Delhi: British Prime Minister Boris Johnson landed in Gujarat's Ahmedabad this morning as part of his two-day India visit. He will meet with Prime Minister Narendra Modi tomorrow, where both are expected to discuss trade and defence, among other issues.

Mr Johnson indicated he was ready to offer more visas to India in return for this year clinching a free-trade deal that could boost annual bilateral trade by billions of pounds, news agency Reuters reported.

Speaking on the plane on his way to India, Mr Johnson signalled he was ready to be more accommodating on an issue that could have stalled the talks. "I have always been in favour of talented people coming to this country," Mr Johnson told reporters. "We are short to the tune of hundreds of thousands of people in our economy and we need to have a progressive approach and we will."

Mr Johnson will visit Sabarmati Ashram in Ahmedabad later. He is also likely to meet with businessman Gautam Adani. Then the British Prime Minister will fly to Vadodara, where he will visit a plant of the heavy machine firm JCB. From there, he will go to Gandhinagar's Gujarat International Finance Tec-City or GIFT City. He will go to Delhi in the evening.

The UK had said it would not look to "lecture" India over its neutral stance in the UN on the Ukraine war or India's decision to increase Russian oil imports. The UK, however, has been trying to persuade India to reduce its reliance on Moscow since Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24.

Mr Johnson's visit is likely to give a fresh push to the proposed free-trade agreement between India and the UK, boost cooperation in the Indo-Pacific and enhance defence ties. A major focus of Mr Johnson's talks with PM Modi would be on the situation in the Indo-Pacific as the UK is strongly opposed to any kind of coercion in the region.

On the Ukraine crisis, news agency PTI cited comments by British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss during her visit to India last month, saying Mr Johnson is also going to follow the same line and will not lecture India on its response to the Russian invasion and that he will set out the UK's perspective on it and listen to New Delhi's views.

Both sides are making efforts to conclude the free-trade negotiations by the end of this year. Issues related to market access for apples, medical devices, shrimps and legal services have been almost resolved, describing it as good signs for the next stage of discussions.

The aim is to have something long-lasting for the next 25 years, while emphasising the importance the UK attaches to its ties with India.

The India-UK relationship was elevated to a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership during the India-UK virtual summit held between PM Modi and Mr Johnson in May last year.

At the summit then, the two sides adopted a 10-year-roadmap to expand ties in the key areas of trade and economy, defence and security, climate change and people-to-people connections, among others.

NDTV
 
Brits didn't rule over present day pakistan? Wonder what that baby gave away.

Unlike few other countries, India works as per its own interests and isnt dictated by anyone.

While others are supposedly selling their country for a few $$$$. There they don't even need to send troops. Just a few dollars m


Even the former Pakistani PM accepted that.

Brits ruled all over the land, a majority non-Mulsim land. Paksitan didnt exist so there is no such as thing as ruling over present day Pakistan.

India already has changed its mind on buying some off Russia.

Boris is a racist, he doesnt care two hoots about Indians. UK and US want India to do its dirty work against China and Pakistan if needed. Its idiotic for Indians to do this work, when it should be making peace with China and Pakistan, improving relations with its neighours.
 
Modi is only interested in the UK lifting quotas on Indian immigrants wanting to flee 'incredible' India.

Not happening, regardless of how large the begging bowl is.
 
New Delhi: British PM Boris Johnson arrived in Gujarat on Thursday for the start of his two-day visit to India. He is meeting with PM Modi as the UK looks to increase its footprint in defence production in India, and new cooperation on clean & renewable energy.

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson today thanked Prime Minister Narendra Modi for a 'fantastic welcome' and said his India visit is a 'very auspicious moment' for both countries as things have never been as good in UK-India relations as they are now. "I have never seen such a joyful reception. I wouldn't get that necessarily anywhere in the world," he added.

The UK's partnership with India is a beacon in stormy seas as the world faces growing threats from autocratic states which seek to undermine democracy, choke off fair trade and trample on sovereignty, Mr Johnson said on Friday.

The British Prime Minister is on a two-day visit to India to hold in-depth talks on the UK and India's strategic defence, diplomatic and economic partnership, aimed at bolstering close partnership and stepping up security cooperation in the Indo-Pacific. Mr Johnson is expected to discuss next-generation defence and security collaboration across the five domains - land, sea, air, space and cyber - as the two countries face "complex new threats", a release from the UK side said.

"UK will work with India to boost security in the Indo-Pacific, including new fighter jet technology, helicopters and collaboration in the undersea battlespace. PM will also discuss new cooperation on clean and renewable energy," a British High Commission release said.

The UK Prime Minister will also hold talks with External Affairs Minister (EAM) S Jaishankar. The two sides will issue a press statement at around 1 pm at Hyderabad House.

During Boris Johnson's visit, UK and Indian businesses are going to confirm more than 1 billion pounds in new investments and export deals today in areas from software engineering to health, creating almost 11,000 jobs across the UK, the British High Commission said in the statement.

"The UK and India are launching a virtual Hydrogen Science and Innovation hub to accelerate affordable green hydrogen, as well as new funding for the Green Grids Initiative announced at COP26, and collaboration on joint work on the electrification of public transport across India," the UK release said.

According to a statement by the British High Commission, Prime Minister Johnson will use the visit to drive progress in the Free Trade Agreement (FTA) negotiations launched earlier this year as a deal with India is predicted to boost UK's total trade by up to 28 billion pounds annually by 2035 and increase incomes across the UK by up to 3 billion pounds.

Last year, Prime Minister Johnson and PM Modi agreed on a UK-India Comprehensive Strategic Partnership, announcing more than 530 million pounds in investment into the UK and committing to a deeper bilateral relationship across trade, health, climate, defence and security, and connecting our people.

India was also identified as a priority relationship for the UK in the 2021 Integrated Review and was invited by the UK as a guest to last year's G7 in Carbis Bay.

NDTV
 
It would be a great coup for India to have an FTA with UK after recent one with Australia. I suspect Boris first meeting Businesses suggest he wants to increase investments in UK.
 
This trip is probably going to be Boris’s final expenses paid state holiday, so he will be making the most of it.

Knives are out for him back home and it is likely that he will be ousted by his own parliamentary party internally soon.
 
Boris Johnson will discuss defence and energy ties with his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi during talks later.

At a meeting in Delhi, the pair are also set to talk about a trade deal, ahead of a new negotiations next week.

However, the prime minister is likely to face more questions about his leadership and lockdown parties in No 10.

On Thursday, MPs gave the go ahead to an inquiry into whether he misled Parliament over the issue.

The government had tried to delay the vote by MPs, but made a U-turn after opposition from within its own party.

The PM now faces an investigation by the Commons Privileges Committee, which will launch once the Metropolitan Police has finished its own probe into the gatherings.

Last week, Mr Johnson was fined for breaking Covid laws at an event in Downing Street. He had previously told MPs laws were not broken in No 10, leading to accusations from opposition parties that the prime minister had misled them.

Conservative MP Tobias Ellwood, who has previously been critical of the PM, told the BBC it is a matter of "when not if" Mr Johnson faces a vote of no confidence from his MPs.

The Defence Committee chair also rejected suggestions from the prime minister's allies that the leadership should not be called into question while the war in Ukraine continues, saying the crisis is being used as a "fig-leaf".

Why India is not criticising Russia over Ukraine

The meeting between Mr Johnson and Mr Modi in India's capital comes on the final day of Mr Johnson's two-day trip to the country, which has been much delayed by Covid. Mr Johnson will then give a press conference.

Ahead of their meeting, Downing Street announced the UK planned to streamline its licensing rules for exporting military hardware to India.

Mr Johnson said the UK would support India to construct fighter jets, in an attempt to reduce the volume of weapons bought from Russia.

No 10 also said the two countries would be boosting their security co-operation in the Indo-Pacific region, including the Indian Ocean.

And there was a commitment to increase research into lowering the cost of "green" hydrogen power - part of the UK's renewable energy plans.

The two leaders will also discuss the latest in UK-India trade talks - where Mr Johnson has set an autumn target for an agreement to be signed.

Ukraine stance

However, conversations between the leaders on the invasion of Ukraine are likely to prove more difficult - Mr Johnson has pledged to raise the issue of India's relations with Russia during his trip.

Along with other Western countries, the UK has been trying to persuade India to drop its neutral stance and join in condemning Moscow, which is its biggest arms supplier.

Earlier this month, India condemned killings in the Ukrainian town of Bucha - the strongest statement it has made since Russia's invasion. But it stopped short of blaming Russia for the violence, and has not criticised Russia directly since its invasion in February.

Mr Johnson acknowledged on Thursday that India, which has strong ties to Russia, was "not in the same place" as the UK over the conflict.

But he told reporters there was still a "huge amount we can work on together".

Ahead of his meeting with Mr Modi, Mr Johnson said collaboration with India on issues including climate change and security was of "vital importance".

He added: "The world faces growing threats from autocratic states which seek to undermine democracy, choke off free and fair trade and trample on sovereignty.

"The UK's partnership with India is a beacon in these stormy seas."

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Modi is only interested in the UK lifting quotas on Indian immigrants wanting to flee 'incredible' India.

Not happening, regardless of how large the begging bowl is.

Brits ruled all over the land, a majority non-Mulsim land. Paksitan didnt exist so there is no such as thing as ruling over present day Pakistan.

India already has changed its mind on buying some off Russia.

Boris is a racist, he doesnt care two hoots about Indians. UK and US want India to do its dirty work against China and Pakistan if needed. Its idiotic for Indians to do this work, when it should be making peace with China and Pakistan, improving relations with its neighours.

Must be gut wrenching for y'all.

On one hand you have to reside in a land while listening to diktats from Rishi Sunak and Priti Patel, on the other your Prime Minister does financial and military deals with the chief enemy nation with little benefit for other countries you hold dear to your heart.
 
India always crying about the evil British empire and colonisers this and that, but here they are getting in bed with the devil they speak off. How are you guys taking to Boris with that in mind lol
 
Fair enough. How do they surpass your favourites (like Anjum Chaudhary, George Galloway) to make it to the top anyway?

To be fair though, Technics is a bigger patriot of Pakistan then Kurt Angle is of the USA despite being born in the UK, hence why he is a great exponent of his heritage which is confirmed through the battles with India around here. Moreover, he actually is against the likes of Anjum and George, he scribes more towards the Tories then Labour/Liberals; this is further reinforced by his racist behaviour towards black people, inconsideration for working class British Pakistanis and especially his decision to not vote for Labour primarily because the woke crowd are too into Mr.Corbyn :yk3
 
Must be gut wrenching for y'all.

On one hand you have to reside in a land while listening to diktats from Rishi Sunak and Priti Patel, on the other your Prime Minister does financial and military deals with the chief enemy nation with little benefit for other countries you hold dear to your heart.

Diktats from Rishi and Priti. :91:

Sunak only had to pop his head above the parapet and he's been shot down by his own party with the revelations about his wife's non-dom wealth sectioning in India, and Priti's job is solely to ship dark skinned immigrants off to Rwanda while being ordered to welcome Ukranian refugees with a sponsorship package.

Any deals struck with India will be with the sole aim of milking the country for untold riches through selling them British weapons equipment on the material side, then using soft power to make even more money by selling them the British dream. If it means giving a few jobs to Indian techies, will still be a good deal.
 
To be fair though, Technics is a bigger patriot of Pakistan then Kurt Angle is of the USA despite being born in the UK, hence why he is a great exponent of his heritage which is confirmed through the battles with India around here. Moreover, he actually is against the likes of Anjum and George, he scribes more towards the Tories then Labour/Liberals; this is further reinforced by his racist behaviour towards black people, inconsideration for working class British Pakistanis and especially his decision to not vote for Labour primarily because the woke crowd are too into Mr.Corbyn :yk3

Re the woke point. The claim that woke crowds are pro-Corbyn is a falsified claim by two sets of people 1) right wing journalists who wanted to discredit Corbyn pre 2019 elections 2) anti-Starmer labour activists post 2020 who want labour much more left. This also helps the right as they would rather have an election against Corbyn than Starmer

The claim is untrue. Starmer has solid support of the liberal crowd and has fought in the British judicial system to bring about positive changes.

Unlike Corbyn, he had a successful career prior to joining politics.
 
India always crying about the evil British empire and colonisers this and that, but here they are getting in bed with the devil they speak off. How are you guys taking to Boris with that in mind lol

Indians have bigger hearts.
 
Diktats from Rishi and Priti. :91:

Sunak only had to pop his head above the parapet and he's been shot down by his own party with the revelations about his wife's non-dom wealth sectioning in India, and Priti's job is solely to ship dark skinned immigrants off to Rwanda while being ordered to welcome Ukranian refugees with a sponsorship package.

Any deals struck with India will be with the sole aim of milking the country for untold riches through selling them British weapons equipment on the material side, then using soft power to make even more money by selling them the British dream. If it means giving a few jobs to Indian techies, will still be a good deal.

This point is lost on many, the purpose of this trip, amongst others, has nothing to do with putting India on the pedestal, but more so to do what the Brits did best, to milk an opportunity. Only this time it involves selling arms to India to setup India as a geopolitical pawn in the region, in exchange for cheap labour exports, and access to Indian market.

Still, India rolled out the red carpet for Boris! They must mistake him for royalty.
 
Re the woke point. The claim that woke crowds are pro-Corbyn is a falsified claim by two sets of people 1) right wing journalists who wanted to discredit Corbyn pre 2019 elections 2) anti-Starmer labour activists post 2020 who want labour much more left. This also helps the right as they would rather have an election against Corbyn than Starmer

The claim is untrue. Starmer has solid support of the liberal crowd and has fought in the British judicial system to bring about positive changes.

Unlike Corbyn, he had a successful career prior to joining politics.

Starmer though has replaced the muslim vote with the far right hindu minority.

Starmer was a lawyer in his previous life, a great fit for politics isn’t it…
 
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Starmer though has replaced the muslim vote with the far right hindu minority.

Starmer was a lawyer in his previous life, a great fit for politics isn’t it…

Please clarify what you mean? The far right Hindu vote (which is minuscule in the UK and not a factor) would be pro Tories.

Starmer still maintain the Muslim votes along with most of Hindus, Sikhs and rest of BAME.

Of course, you will find a few minorities within all those minorities voting right. Zwahiri, Javid, Kwarteng, Cleverly
 
Please clarify what you mean? The far right Hindu vote (which is minuscule in the UK and not a factor) would be pro Tories.

Starmer still maintain the Muslim votes along with most of Hindus, Sikhs and rest of BAME.

Of course, you will find a few minorities within all those minorities voting right. Zwahiri, Javid, Kwarteng, Cleverly

We might get an idea of where we are in the upcoming local elections, lets see if Labour maintain their majority in their strongholds and vote among BAME
 
Please clarify what you mean? The far right Hindu vote (which is minuscule in the UK and not a factor) would be pro Tories.

Starmer still maintain the Muslim votes along with most of Hindus, Sikhs and rest of BAME.

Of course, you will find a few minorities within all those minorities voting right. Zwahiri, Javid, Kwarteng, Cleverly

You think the Hindus are a small community, you ever been to London mate, they would sell out Wembley 3x over if Modi visits again
 
This point is lost on many, the purpose of this trip, amongst others, has nothing to do with putting India on the pedestal, but more so to do what the Brits did best, to milk an opportunity. Only this time it involves selling arms to India to setup India as a geopolitical pawn in the region, in exchange for cheap labour exports, and access to Indian market.

Still, India rolled out the red carpet for Boris! They must mistake him for royalty.

The point isn't lost on anyone, deep down they know it's true but they aren't going to admit it. Neither do they have the courage to confront a superpower like Great Britain, they know they can't compete with us, better to placate and flatter and hope for a bigger handout once the crumbs from the table are being divvied out.
 
The point isn't lost on anyone, deep down they know it's true but they aren't going to admit it. Neither do they have the courage to confront a superpower like Great Britain, they know they can't compete with us, better to placate and flatter and hope for a bigger handout once the crumbs from the table are being divvied out.
Amusing to see USA's cute little pets think they are a super power.😆😆
 
Hardcore and full of hatred and malice, Hindu fanatics are against Muslims primarily because “Muslims ruled over India in the past”.

Let’s see how do these imbeciles, starting with Modi himself, receive one of Britons who also not only ruled over India for 200 years but looted the wealth and brought India’s economy on its knees?

My assumption is they will be all in guilty conscious smiles and would feel very proud to have a Caucasian among them.
 
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India-UK outcomes on defence today:

- Joint Working Group on India-UK Electric Propulsion Capability Partnership
- Letter of Arrangement between the UK’s Defence Science & Technology Laboratory & India’s DRDO finalized for joint-research, co-design,co-development & joint production.

- Collaboration on Modern Fighter Aircraft & Jet Engine Advanced Core Technology.

- UK announces ‘open general export license’ for India

- Defence Ministerial Dialogue this year

- India, UK to cooperate in Jet Engine Advanced Core Technology
 
India is a "great democracy" & It's a "stunning, shining fact" that 1.35 billion people live under a democracy, says UK PM Boris Johnson.

"We don't tolerate extremists group in UK with a view to threatening other countries, threatening India", UK PM Boris Johnson on rise of anti India Khalistani extremism in UK; points to establishment of anti extremism task force.
 
New deals worth $1.3 billion signed.


British PM Boris Johnson calls India its biggest partner in India-Pacific, says trade deal with India a post-Brexit goal for UK.
 
Prime Minister Johnson reaffirmed the support of the UK for India’s permanent membership of a reformed UNSC.
 
India is eliminating tariffs on imports like British apples and UK-made medical devices, UK machinery and UK is lifting tariffs on Indian rice and textiles. Four of 22 chapters in the FTA now closed. Mutual recognition of higher education qualifications agreed.
 
Must be gut wrenching for y'all.

On one hand you have to reside in a land while listening to diktats from Rishi Sunak and Priti Patel, on the other your Prime Minister does financial and military deals with the chief enemy nation with little benefit for other countries you hold dear to your heart.

You are giving too much importance to India or Indians in the UK. When we hear the word Indian, we think of curry, dhal or kebabs ie food.

India could have all the military might on the planet, it doesnt matter when Pak has nukes.
 
Prime Minister Johnson reaffirmed the support of the UK for India’s permanent membership of a reformed UNSC.

He's taking them for a ride :)))

For India to join the UNSC China would have to approve, which will never happen.

Thanks for the updates... can you advise on a few which are important to us in the UK?

1. Will UK increase its AID to India to help the poor? As our taxes may increase.

2. Did Boris stand back, clearly say India can and should deal with Russia for Indian interests?

3. Did Boris state UK will be returing the priceless loot they took after leaving?
 
So nothing on UK lifting immigration controls on Indians? Thought as much. A failed trip as far as Modi is concerned.
 
Boris Johnson Signals India Trade Deal Will Mean Accepting Rising Migration to U.K.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Friday that skilled workers from India could plug labour shortages in sectors such as information technology in the UK, even as he reiterated that immigration would continue to be controlled.


"If you look, for instance, at IT or computer programming, there are areas where there's no question that Indian skills can make a difference," Johnson told.

"On immigration I've always been in favour of talented people coming to this country. We have a massive shortage in the UK, not least in IT, in programmers, we're short to the tune of hundreds of thousands in our economy.

"We need to have a progressive approach, and we will. But it's got to be controlled."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-20/india-trade-deal-will-mean-accepting-increased-migration-to-uk-pm-indicates?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_content=business&utm_source=twitter
 
Brits ruled all over the land, a majority non-Mulsim land. Paksitan didnt exist so there is no such as thing as ruling over present day Pakistan.

India already has changed its mind on buying some off Russia.

Boris is a racist, he doesnt care two hoots about Indians. UK and US want India to do its dirty work against China and Pakistan if needed. Its idiotic for Indians to do this work, when it should be making peace with China and Pakistan, improving relations with its neighours.

British defeated muslims too and made them their colonial subjects too.

India is buying more oil from Russia and thats very clear.

We have come this far with our own intelligence and decisions, we can manage in future too.
 
Please clarify what you mean? The far right Hindu vote (which is minuscule in the UK and not a factor) would be pro Tories.

Starmer still maintain the Muslim votes along with most of Hindus, Sikhs and rest of BAME.

Of course, you will find a few minorities within all those minorities voting right. Zwahiri, Javid, Kwarteng, Cleverly

Seems there is active shift among Indian origin brits,esp hindus towards the tories.
 
British defeated muslims too and made them their colonial subjects too.

India is buying more oil from Russia and thats very clear.

We have come this far with our own intelligence and decisions, we can manage in future too.

RSS are always upset by history, never mind.

Not very far when you have hundreds of millions in poverty. This defines a nations progress.
 
Boris Johnson Signals India Trade Deal Will Mean Accepting Rising Migration to U.K.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Friday that skilled workers from India could plug labour shortages in sectors such as information technology in the UK, even as he reiterated that immigration would continue to be controlled.


"If you look, for instance, at IT or computer programming, there are areas where there's no question that Indian skills can make a difference," Johnson told.

"On immigration I've always been in favour of talented people coming to this country. We have a massive shortage in the UK, not least in IT, in programmers, we're short to the tune of hundreds of thousands in our economy.

"We need to have a progressive approach, and we will. But it's got to be controlled."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-20/india-trade-deal-will-mean-accepting-increased-migration-to-uk-pm-indicates?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_content=business&utm_source=twitter

Boring! Indian skilled workers could fill the gap - even as he reiterated that immigration would continue to be controlled.

Skilled workers plugging the labour shortage is happening right now from all countries, Indian skilled workers are plugging in the cheap labour gap, doesn't mean a rise in quota on immigration from India. No wait, that is already confirmed from the Bloomberg article above.

Spin may work in India, in the UK, it does not.

:)
 
Boring! Indian skilled workers could fill the gap - even as he reiterated that immigration would continue to be controlled.

Skilled workers plugging the labour shortage is happening right now from all countries, Indian skilled workers are plugging in the cheap labour gap, doesn't mean a rise in quota on immigration from India. No wait, that is already confirmed from the Bloomberg article above.

Spin may work in India, in the UK, it does not.

:)

Strange. Another poster is suggesting India is now a superpower , so why do almost all Indians want to leave and work in factories or picking peas in the UK?
 
Boring! Indian skilled workers could fill the gap - even as he reiterated that immigration would continue to be controlled.

Skilled workers plugging the labour shortage is happening right now from all countries, Indian skilled workers are plugging in the cheap labour gap, doesn't mean a rise in quota on immigration from India. No wait, that is already confirmed from the Bloomberg article above.

Spin may work in India, in the UK, it does not.

:)

Why you worrying about immigration? This trip is for business and trade deal.
New deals worth $1.3 billion signed.
 
Why you worrying about immigration? This trip is for business and trade deal.
New deals worth $1.3 billion signed.

This great nation is too over crowded as it is, no need to pour fuel over what is already a fire. Get in line like everyone else.

You should be asking if India is so 'incredible' why are Indians desperate to flee India?

$1.3 Billion? Meh, more is raised in tax on a Saturday lottery.

For the record, trade to UK is priced in £.
 
Strange. Another poster is suggesting India is now a superpower , so why do almost all Indians want to leave and work in factories or picking peas in the UK?

Exactly, either India is either not cracked up to what its be, or there is a chronic case of Stockholm Syndrome, perhaps both.
 
RSS are always upset by history, never mind.

Not very far when you have hundreds of millions in poverty. This defines a nations progress.

History is history. British colonized the muslims as well thats history.

No it only defines a small part of the nation. I am glad whatever progress we have made, we are strong enough to take our own decisions.
 
Strange. Another poster is suggesting India is now a superpower , so why do almost all Indians want to leave and work in factories or picking peas in the UK?

Not everyone migrates to work in factories in UK. Many migrate as highly skilled people. The difference can be seen in the economic status of different communities in UK. Who are near the top and who are near the bottom.
 
History is history. British colonized the muslims as well thats history.

No it only defines a small part of the nation. I am glad whatever progress we have made, we are strong enough to take our own decisions.

Sure but Muslims are not as touchy as the Hindus when it comes to history, maybe because Muslims ruled over Hindus much longer than Brits did.

Not everyone migrates to work in factories in UK. Many migrate as highly skilled people. The difference can be seen in the economic status of different communities in UK. Who are near the top and who are near the bottom.

Status is in many forms, but mainly contributing to society, in politics, sports and other such public fields.

Of course there are various jobs but we Brits need labourers and factory workers now we are out of the EU. Also picking fruits and veg in fields. Why would Indians want to leave what you feel is a modern superpower to work like this in the UK?
 
Exactly, either India is either not cracked up to what its be, or there is a chronic case of Stockholm Syndrome, perhaps both.

Imo its deluded internet warriors who think if they daily shout to the world India is a superpower, everyone will believe this.
 
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One thing I find concerning about the Johnson visit, I heard he has pitched India to be a partner in the Tempest fighter program.

Indians must stay clear of it and keep focusing on the AMCA, Indians now have a lot of know how in the fighter jet technology and must push for indigenization.
 
Sure but Muslims are not as touchy as the Hindus when it comes to history, maybe because Muslims ruled over Hindus much longer than Brits did.



Status is in many forms, but mainly contributing to society, in politics, sports and other such public fields.

Of course there are various jobs but we Brits need labourers and factory workers now we are out of the EU. Also picking fruits and veg in fields. Why would Indians want to leave what you feel is a modern superpower to work like this in the UK?

Muslims seems to be more touchy, they jump up and down when history talks about the invading looting bigoted muslim marauders from central asia.

Those contributing to the society in politics sports etc wont be near the bottom of the economic ladder.

Brits can get factory workers and vegetable pickers from the same place they got them in 50s 60s.
 
One thing I find concerning about the Johnson visit, I heard he has pitched India to be a partner in the Tempest fighter program.

Indians must stay clear of it and keep focusing on the AMCA, Indians now have a lot of know how in the fighter jet technology and must push for indigenization.

It would be very interesting if UK allows an Indian firm to acquire Rolls Royce Holdings, the engine maker and defence contractor.
 
Highlights: PM Modi, UK's Boris Johnson Hold Joint Press Conference

Modi-Johnson Meet: The two prime ministers announced that India and UK will co-develop a $100 million initiative to battle the issue of climate-change by funding tech firms and start-ups.

New Delhi: Prime Minister Narendra Modi today addressed an India-UK joint press conference with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who is in India on a two-day visit for the first time since he took office as the UK PM.
Johnson arrived in Gujarat on Thursday where he met with PM Modi as the UK looks to increase its footprint in defence production in India, and new cooperation on clean & renewable energy.

Here are the Highlights of the India-UK Press Conference:

  • PM Modi: I welcome UK PM Boris Johnson to India. This may be his first visit, but he knows India very well. He has contributed greatly in enhancing the India-UK ties.
  • PM Modi: We have discussed in detail our strategic and defence partnership. We also spoke about a free trade deal between the two nations. This will be ready by the year-end. This will be on similar lines as that of the India-Australia free trade agreement that we signed recently.
  • PM Modi: We welcome UK's keenness on manufacturing in India, especially in the defence sector, and in making 'Atmanirbhar Bharat' a success. We invite the UK to join India's National Hydrogen Mission.
  • PM Modi: India and UK will co-develop a $100 million initiative to battle the issue of climate-change by funding tech firms and start-ups.
  • PM Modi: We have focused on dialogue between the nations in the Russia-Ukraine war and have always maintained that the sovereignty and integrity of both nations be maintained. We also reiterated our appeal for a democratic and inclusive government in Afghanistan.
  • PM Johnson: I thank my khaas dost Narendra, and the people of India for the grand welcome. I felt like Sachin Tendulkar upon my arrival and also like Amitabh Bachchan when I saw hoardings everywhere.
  • PM Johnson: We work with India to ensure a free and open Indo-Pacific region and we share a common vision for that.
  • PM Johnson: We aim to have a new free trade agreement by Diwali... I have urged officals to get it done by Diwali. We appreciate the tariffs being dropped by India on certain goods and commodities and in return, we too are dropping some tariffs we levy.
  • PM Johnson: We also look forward to the close cooperation shared between the UK's NHS and India's health services.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/hig...s-johnson-hold-joint-press-conference-2909959
 
It would be very interesting if UK allows an Indian firm to acquire Rolls Royce Holdings, the engine maker and defence contractor.

Will never happen, Americans will never let that happen.

1st world countries will always do whatever they can to halt or delay a 3rd world country from successfully creating their own jet engine..

Indians are close, I believe by the time AMCA MK 2.0 is launched Indians will have their own indigenous jet engine..
 
This is a decent deal from the Indian perspective and the lack of rebuke over Indias neutrality in the Ukraine conflict is also a victory for India.
 
This is a decent deal from the Indian perspective and the lack of rebuke over Indias neutrality in the Ukraine conflict is also a victory for India.

Imran Khan spoke the truth when he said 'no one can dictate terms to India'

when

He was no longer under the control of the Pak military...

Indians one of the few countries not affected by the ties with Russia...

Indians are the top dawgs here in international politics...
 
Highlights: PM Modi, UK's Boris Johnson Hold Joint Press Conference

Modi-Johnson Meet: The two prime ministers announced that India and UK will co-develop a $100 million initiative to battle the issue of climate-change by funding tech firms and start-ups.

New Delhi: Prime Minister Narendra Modi today addressed an India-UK joint press conference with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who is in India on a two-day visit for the first time since he took office as the UK PM.
Johnson arrived in Gujarat on Thursday where he met with PM Modi as the UK looks to increase its footprint in defence production in India, and new cooperation on clean & renewable energy.

Here are the Highlights of the India-UK Press Conference:

  • PM Modi: I welcome UK PM Boris Johnson to India. This may be his first visit, but he knows India very well. He has contributed greatly in enhancing the India-UK ties.
  • PM Modi: We have discussed in detail our strategic and defence partnership. We also spoke about a free trade deal between the two nations. This will be ready by the year-end. This will be on similar lines as that of the India-Australia free trade agreement that we signed recently.
  • PM Modi: We welcome UK's keenness on manufacturing in India, especially in the defence sector, and in making 'Atmanirbhar Bharat' a success. We invite the UK to join India's National Hydrogen Mission.
  • PM Modi: India and UK will co-develop a $100 million initiative to battle the issue of climate-change by funding tech firms and start-ups.
  • PM Modi: We have focused on dialogue between the nations in the Russia-Ukraine war and have always maintained that the sovereignty and integrity of both nations be maintained. We also reiterated our appeal for a democratic and inclusive government in Afghanistan.
  • PM Johnson: I thank my khaas dost Narendra, and the people of India for the grand welcome. I felt like Sachin Tendulkar upon my arrival and also like Amitabh Bachchan when I saw hoardings everywhere.
  • PM Johnson: We work with India to ensure a free and open Indo-Pacific region and we share a common vision for that.
  • PM Johnson: We aim to have a new free trade agreement by Diwali... I have urged officals to get it done by Diwali. We appreciate the tariffs being dropped by India on certain goods and commodities and in return, we too are dropping some tariffs we levy.
  • PM Johnson: We also look forward to the close cooperation shared between the UK's NHS and India's health services.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/hig...s-johnson-hold-joint-press-conference-2909959

He felt like Tendulkar and Bachan? Oh my days, that fair and lovely cream must be next gen! :)))
 
Rebuke? Really? Was that the expectation?

Yes.

Britain has positioned itself as the head of the anti-russian bloc. We have lead the way in sanctions and applying political pressure.

The fact we didn't press India at all on their relations with Russia shows how important the trade deal was to the UK.
 
Yes.

Britain has positioned itself as the head of the anti-russian bloc. We have lead the way in sanctions and applying political pressure.

The fact we didn't press India at all on their relations with Russia shows how important the trade deal was to the UK.

Even Australia who has gone blue in the face re China not being strong enough Russia has signed trade deals with India. I say good on India they know the west needs them to counter china!
 
One thing I find concerning about the Johnson visit, I heard he has pitched India to be a partner in the Tempest fighter program.

Indians must stay clear of it and keep focusing on the AMCA, Indians now have a lot of know how in the fighter jet technology and must push for indigenization.

AMCA is being developed by the sloths at HAL. IAF pilots and HAL are a deadly combination - not for an enemy nation but for the pilot himself, and folks on the ground.

AMCA like many programs before it is set to be decades delayed and a generation out of date.
 
AMCA is being developed by the sloths at HAL. IAF pilots and HAL are a deadly combination - not for an enemy nation but for the pilot himself, and folks on the ground.

I was never a fan of HAL, but upon further research I found that the IAF kept changing goal posts whenever the Tejas of the time was ready, IAF wanted more and more features each time when Tejas was ready to be inducted..

However Tejas has matured well now imo, it has had zero accidents after nearly 5000 hours of flying and IAF has placed an order for 84 Jets, which is a good sign.



AMCA like many programs before it is set to be decades delayed and a generation out of date.

Yes there will be delays on AMCA, however that is expected, India is a 3rd world country and cannot run at the speed of the Americans or the French. Under the leadership of PM Modi, I feel AMCA will be successful.

bold.
 
Indian businesses are providing 100,000 plus jobs in UK. I was surprised to find this out. I wonder which are these companies.
 
Indian businesses are providing 100,000 plus jobs in UK. I was surprised to find this out. I wonder which are these companies.

They would be around high-tech items, especially those that are used in manufacturing in India.

And possibly even Indian IT businesses in the UK (though I am not sure if they should be part of the 100K list).
 
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