Boxing Thread

[ShadabFakhar]

I look to the Canelo fight with more excitement than this cash cow of a show.
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Macgregor just pulled off the deal of the century. £78.5m for losing a fight on points against an old man. It doesn't even affect his UFC record. Genius! This man should negotiate Brexit

 

[shaz619]

Can't believe I watched the Mayweather McGregor press conference. The amount of foul language on display was too much, esp since boxing is now followed by children.

I'm looking forward to Eubank Jr. v Arthur Abraham, although Abraham isn't the fighter he once was, he should put up a decent challenge to Eubank. [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

Excellent fight and a great test for Eubank jr , we will get to see what he is made off. The winner will also be entered into the brilliant world boxing series which consists of the best SMW in the world including Callum Smith, George Groves and Jamie Cox. The winner of the final will claim a $10 million pay day and win the Muhammad Ali Trophy. (Would have been nice if Degale was in it but Chunky needs a break after that brutal war with Badou Jack, he is the best at that weight for me)

Have not watched the press conference yet but I expect it to be an entertaining build, in the end regardless of how we feel it's a spectacle and entertainment; the people will always get what they demand and Floyd is a business man first / foremost rather then a fighter. For me he is the greatest self promoter of all time.

 

[shaz619]

I look to the Canelo fight with more excitement than this cash cow of a show.
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Macgregor just pulled off the deal of the century. £78.5m for losing a fight on points against an old man. It doesn't even affect his UFC record. Genius! This man should negotiate Brexit

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Good one

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Here are the brackets for the SMW and CW divisions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Boxing_Super_Series#Results

All individuals are top 10 fighters in the lineal rankings with WBO, WBC and IBF world titles at stake among others in addition to the prestigious Muhammad Ali Trophy

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] am a big fan of the WWE am just treating this fight as such and the build up should be fun , Conor got roasted on the mic )

I never seen Conor so rustled before, I suppose he finally met his match when it came to the trash talking

 

[ShadabFakhar]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION], Macgregor was getting grilled by Mayweather's dad but I couldn't hear what was being said by Mayweather senior. To paraphrase it Macgregor just replied respect me or I'll break boxing rules during the fight. He won't because he'll lose money as per his contractual obligations. Mind games

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION], Macgregor was getting grilled by Mayweather's dad but I couldn't hear what was being said by Mayweather senior. To paraphrase it Macgregor just replied respect me or I'll break boxing rules during the fight. He won't because he'll lose money as per his contractual obligations. Mind games

I watched that video, Conor was respectful towards senior; they never really had much of an argument. But yeah in the contract there will be a severe financial penalty if Conor performs an MMA move he'd be treated like a god after the fight if he did lol but I don't think he is that crazy, why would anyone throw a big pay day away.

 

[ShadabFakhar]

I watched that video, Conor was respectful towards senior; they never really had much of an argument. But yeah in the contract there will be a severe financial penalty if Conor performs an MMA move he'd be treated like a god after the fight if he did lol but I don't think he is that crazy, why would anyone throw a big pay day away.

I don't know what to make of this. If it's a one-off and Macgregor wins against a retired old boxer, what next? I don't dislike Macgregor for what he's achieved but his foul etiquette and his disdain for boxing irks me to no end. I hope retired fighters like Pacquiao show up guys like Connor by showing the world how inferior punching power in the UFC is. Boxing is not just a combative sport but an art in its own right.

The reason there's more knockouts in the UFC is more to do with fighters receiving punches with lesser padding and the unexpectation of where the next attack is coming from therefore not being able to predict the incoming punch. Boxers often say it's not always the power that does it but the punch you don't see coming.

 

[shaz619]

I don't know what to make of this. If it's a one-off and Macgregor wins against a retired old boxer, what next? I don't dislike Macgregor for what he's achieved but his foul etiquette and his disdain for boxing irks me to no end. I hope retired fighters like Pacquiao show up guys like Connor by showing the world how inferior punching power in the UFC is. Boxing is not just a combative sport but an art in its own right.

The reason there's more knockouts in the UFC is more to do with fighters receiving punches with lesser padding and the unexpectation of where the next attack is coming from therefore not being able to predict the incoming punch. Boxers often say it's not always the power that does it but the punch you don't see coming.

I just can't imagine Conor winning on any level, deep down he is a big boxing fan; have seen him show up at pressers in the same outfit of Joe Frazier once. Most of his shtick is based on promoting himself in order to draw numbers but obviously part of it is personal to, MMA has notoriously been crapped on for a long time and it is only in recent times that their sport has managed to get a bit of respect so I do understand their hostile nature at times towards the greatest combat sport in the world which is Boxing. Anyhow whatever is said will play into the build regardless of what their real feelings are or may not be, the bout has captured the public's imagination; I do hope Floyd wins emphatically, it will be an embarrassment if he doesn't get the KO but am sure he will.

Boxing is an art and science, I respect the distinct facets of MMA but it is not as specialised. I'd always give the boxer more of a chance in the Octagon then an MMA fighter in a boxing ring, Holly Holms the greatest female boxer of all time did a number on Ronda Rousey a judoka and she did it all on speed, superior boxing IQ, footwork and movement; the one time she kicked her it was to finish her off.

Conor is going to look like a clown in the ring but he'll be paid well for it so credit to him for talking himself into this lucrative position.

 

[ShadabFakhar]

I just can't imagine Conor winning on any level, deep down he is a big boxing fan; have seen him show up at pressers in the same outfit of Joe Frazier once. Most of his shtick is based on promoting himself in order to draw numbers but obviously part of it is personal to, MMA has notoriously been crapped on for a long time and it is only in recent times that their sport has managed to get a bit of respect so I do understand their hostile nature at times towards the greatest combat sport in the world which is Boxing. Anyhow whatever is said will play into the build regardless of what their real feelings are or may not be, the bout has captured the public's imagination; I do hope Floyd wins emphatically, it will be an embarrassment if he doesn't get the KO but am sure he will.

Boxing is an art and science, I respect the distinct facets of MMA but it is not as specialised. I'd always give the boxer more of a chance in the Octagon then an MMA fighter in a boxing ring, Holly Holms the greatest female boxer of all time did a number on Ronda Rousey a judoka and she did it all on speed, superior boxing IQ, footwork and movement; the one time she kicked her it was to finish her off.

Conor is going to look like a clown in the ring but he'll be paid well for it so credit to him for talking himself into this lucrative position.

I hope so and I'm behind Mayweather to support boxing.

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] The world series does look very interesting and I will be following it. I do hope Eubank wins, I still believe he has a lot of imporvement to do and will become a top fighter.

It seems Floyd owes the IRS over $20 million and has aked them to wait until he fights McGregor. Yes can't take this seriously, a bit of fun but it has tarsnished Floyds status as a legendary boxer in my view. He should have fought a real boxer and still could have generated near as much money.

It reminds me of this but tbf it was different in those days but poor Ali's ankles and calfs )

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] The world series does look very interesting and I will be following it. I do hope Eubank wins, I still believe he has a lot of imporvement to do and will become a top fighter.

It seems Floyd owes the IRS over $20 million and has aked them to wait until he fights McGregor. Yes can't take this seriously, a bit of fun but it has tarsnished Floyds status as a legendary boxer in my view. He should have fought a real boxer and still could have generated near as much money.

It reminds me of this but tbf it was different in those days but poor Ali's ankles and calfs )

The build I've been enjoying it ) Love to see Conor finally get rustled, Floyd is in his head. First presser I give the edge to Floyd and the second one it was close but Conor did better on the mic although it was so incredible when Floyd draped himself in the Ireland flag ) the man is a heat magnet, no one is a better heel then him. Conor savaged him by pointing out how he dresses like a 10 year old, carries a school bag around and can't read )

I'd never pay for this fight but everyone will want to see it and I expect it to do huge numbers, this is bigger then when Ali fought Inoki as well, we've never had this big a fight between two distinct combat sport fighters.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

His initial reaction is priceless )

 

[shaz619]

Joseph Parker may not be the most talented and gifted HW champion out there but he's a thoroughbred gentleman who isn't a fake media pampering uncle tom, in addition he takes on all comers and has never ducked any fighter in his young career whilst constantly chasing the big fights; it's something I respect because he doesn't allow his promoters to protect him. He has never been knocked down even in the amateurs and is very tough bloke, his power can be exaggerated though and he is definitely flat footed but his strengths remain the pressure and speed.

Hughie Fury may not have made a name for himself just yet but he is a very organised fighter with a good boxing IQ and ability, he presents a significant challenge to JP and it really is a 50/50 fight. Whoever wins deserves full credit.

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

His initial reaction is priceless )

The awkward moment when a question is serious or not.

If he lands one clean shot on Floyd it will be a massive success for him.

 

[shaz619]

The awkward moment when a question is serious or not.

If he lands one clean shot on Floyd it will be a massive success for him.

From Conors perspective, how many rounds do you think he would need to last for it to be considered a big success for him ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

From Conors perspective, how many rounds do you think he would need to last for it to be considered a big success for him ?

I'd say for most people if he can last the distance it will be deemed a huge success. We have to remember this fight will be watched and commented on by the likes of aunty at the local corner shop. For me, if he can land just ONE clean hit, it's a success. I think Floyd will punish to the extent he will elbow or headbutt him out of frustration.

 

[shaz619]

I'd say for most people if he can last the distance it will be deemed a huge success. We have to remember this fight will be watched and commented on by the likes of aunty at the local corner shop. For me, if he can land just ONE clean hit, it's a success. I think Floyd will punish to the extent he will elbow or headbutt him out of frustration.

If he lasts 6 rounds it would be a big success for him in my eyes. In an alternate universe where nothing is logical and Conor somehow manages to win, it would be the biggest upset in Boxing of all time and biggest win since Ali dethroning Foreman

 

[KingKhanWC]

If he lasts 6 rounds it would be a big success for him in my eyes. In an alternate universe where nothing is logical and Conor somehow manages to win, it would be the biggest upset in Boxing of all time and biggest win since Ali dethroning Foreman

There is nothing at all to suggest Conner has any chance of even coming close to winning. Mayweather doesn't have a weak chin, he has taken some heavy shots in his time and is the master of riding them out. Maidana and Canelo hit way harder than Conner with gloves on. Chances are the ref would stop the fight after Mayweather continues to pummel him and he can't defend himself properly.

One of the greats of all time has just ruined his legacy for fortune. Such a shame.

 

[ShadabFakhar]

There is nothing at all to suggest Conner has any chance of even coming close to winning. Mayweather doesn't have a weak chin, he has taken some heavy shots in his time and is the master of riding them out. Maidana and Canelo hit way harder than Conner with gloves on. Chances are the ref would stop the fight after Mayweather continues to pummel him and he can't defend himself properly.

One of the greats of all time has just ruined his legacy for fortune. Such a shame.

Connor hasn't taken the kind of jabs Mayweather will throw at him. It's always the punches you don't see that do the most damage.

 

[shaz619]

There is nothing at all to suggest Conner has any chance of even coming close to winning. Mayweather doesn't have a weak chin, he has taken some heavy shots in his time and is the master of riding them out. Maidana and Canelo hit way harder than Conner with gloves on. Chances are the ref would stop the fight after Mayweather continues to pummel him and he can't defend himself properly.

One of the greats of all time has just ruined his legacy for fortune. Such a shame.

I mean Ali fought Inoki but his legacy is in tact, I don't see Floyd being tarnished for this contest his contributions to the sport are just incredible, he is a heel so people won't appreciate him while he's active but years from now when it's all said and done he'll rank in the top 10 greatest fighters ever.

I'd have more then loved to see him face Thurman, Amir or even GGG but it's safe to say no bout would have generated the same $$$$$ or interest and at the same time the fight presents the least risk to. Boxing in the modern era is a business now and in the second half of Floyd's career it has always been about high reward low risk although in between he has taken on some dangerous opponents, his fights are not entertaining but no one can doubt his defensive genius a style he developed later in his career after initially being a KO artist; in the end if we were fighters it would be the best way to go about our business because we take the least amount of punishment, keep winning, doing the trash talking and breaking box office records at the same time

 

[KingKhanWC]

I mean Ali fought Inoki but his legacy is in tact, I don't see Floyd being tarnished for this contest his contributions to the sport are just incredible, he is a heel so people won't appreciate him while he's active but years from now when it's all said and done he'll rank in the top 10 greatest fighters ever.

I'd have more then loved to see him face Thurman, Amir or even GGG but it's safe to say no bout would have generated the same $$$$$ or interest and at the same time the fight presents the least risk to. Boxing in the modern era is a business now and in the second half of Floyd's career it has always been about high reward low risk although in between he has taken on some dangerous opponents

Ali's fight was a mere exhibition as one was boxing and the other was supposed to be doing martial arts. The fight is not registered on Ali's boxing record so makes no difference to his stats. This is a boxing match for both fighters and will be 50-0 for Floyd. Yes no doubt he will still be regarded as a great but he could have made it 50-0 against GGG and his legacy would have been sealed with a great victory against an undefeated warrior. As a pure boxing fan, its just my personal opinion this is just a farce. Sure money will be made but nobody will remember Floyd for his millions but for his boxing record. Besides he has enough money and will make much more promoting too.

 

[shaz619]

Ali's fight was a mere exhibition as one was boxing and the other was supposed to be doing martial arts. The fight is not registered on Ali's boxing record so makes no difference to his stats. This is a boxing match for both fighters and will be 50-0 for Floyd. Yes no doubt he will still be regarded as a great but he could have made it 50-0 against GGG and his legacy would have been sealed with a great victory against an undefeated warrior. As a pure boxing fan, its just my personal opinion this is just a farce. Sure money will be made but nobody will remember Floyd for his millions but for his boxing record. Besides he has enough money and will make much more promoting too.

What he did in his previous 49 fights won't be forgotten, they made him an all time great and sealed his legacy despite this 1 fight against Conor which is no doubt a circus act and farce it does not define his incredible accomplishments. If he came back I'd much rather see him face Thurman or Amir then GGG who I believe lost to Daniel Jacobs, he looked like a headless chicken against a guy that moved so well and was slick; against Floyd he'd give up a landslide points defeat I have zero interest in that fight, GGG also isn't all that at cutting of the ring and his Power is a bit OTT or else he'd have stopped DJ, I expect Canelo to win in a close battle.

That win over Maidana in the second fight was one of Floyd's greatest in recent times, in the first battle Maidana pushed him to the absolute limit it was a very close fight; he was a guy at the peak of his powers, ferocious punching power and applied pressure which made Floyd sweat.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What he did in his previous 49 fights won't be forgotten, they made him an all time great and sealed his legacy despite this 1 fight against Conor which is no doubt a circus act and farce it does not define his incredible accomplishments. If he came back I'd much rather see him face Thurman or Amir then GGG who I believe lost to Daniel Jacobs, he looked like a headless chicken against a guy that moved so well and was slick; against Floyd he'd give up a landslide points defeat I have zero interest in that fight, GGG also isn't all that at cutting of the ring and his Power is a bit OTT or else he'd have stopped DJ, I expect Canelo to win in a close battle.

That win over Maidana in the second fight was one of Floyd's greatest in recent times, in the first battle Maidana pushed him to the absolute limit it was a very close fight; he was a guy at the peak of his powers, ferocious punching power and applied pressure which made Floyd sweat.

I already acknowledged his greatness as a boxer but his record will show a 50th win against a man who made his pro boxing debut. I believe Floyd in later life will look back and think it wasn't worth it but this is my opinion. Floyd claims he is greater than Ali, this will make his claim even more laughable than it is.

I think GGG will rise to the occasion against Canelo and this is a great fight in the making, not this nonsense we will see on 8/26.. Jacobs fought a great fight and I agree with you he could have got the decision but i believe you have to beat the champion convincingly to take his belts which I don't Jacobs just fell short of but against this is my opinion. GGG is 35 years old and is a big sluggish but he doesn't need to box with movement against Floyd as he will walk through Floyds punches and will catch him sooner or later. His power may be over-rated with the hype, I agree but he is still very powerful. I believe he offered to come down in weight to fight Floyd but he ducked him. This fight would generate as much as the Pacquio fight and I would love to see it.

 

[shaz619]

I already acknowledged his greatness as a boxer but his record will show a 50th win against a man who made his pro boxing debut. I believe Floyd in later life will look back and think it wasn't worth it but this is my opinion. Floyd claims he is greater than Ali, this will make his claim even more laughable than it is.

I think GGG will rise to the occasion against Canelo and this is a great fight in the making, not this nonsense we will see on 8/26.. Jacobs fought a great fight and I agree with you he could have got the decision but i believe you have to beat the champion convincingly to take his belts which I don't Jacobs just fell short of but against this is my opinion. GGG is 35 years old and is a big sluggish but he doesn't need to box with movement against Floyd as he will walk through Floyds punches and will catch him sooner or later. His power may be over-rated with the hype, I agree but he is still very powerful. I believe he offered to come down in weight to fight Floyd but he ducked him. This fight would generate as much as the Pacquio fight and I would love to see it.

If one is going to present an argument that Floyd is better then Ali why would they outline the Conor fight come on man it's a farce like you point out and will not be used to determine the legacy he has left behind because he has fought 49 times before that Ali is the undisputed greatest without a doubt though, Floyd has just achieved too much not to be considered amongst the greatest in history.

We'll see, it will be a close fight but am backing Canelo. I had DJ win compatibly when I was scoring the fight, tbh he had to get the KO to win because Canelo was brewing so the powers that be had every fail safe in place. Neither GGG or Canelo are as good as the hype suggests based on what they have achieved thus far, GGG KO'd bum after bum and the moment he fought an actual top 3 MW he struggled; Canelo on the other hand has big wins over Trout, Lara and Cotto but they could have been scored against him, he even looked like an amateur against Khan for 6 ounds; however whoever wins in September will have the bragging rights and earned genuine respect whilst having proven themselves.

Floyd gets unfair stick at times, every time a fighter calls him out and he doesn't face him it's considered a duck; in that case Triple G ducked Andre Ward as well then, Floyd's a natural between 147-150; how can a guy who is probably 20-30lb heavier then him on fight night going to be considered a duck, if he was at WW I'd agree with it but this is like saying Canelo called out Khan but Amir didn't face him so it's a duck. Floyd has ducked a few fighters in recent times but not Triple G, he ducked Khan twice and more recently when it made financial sense to face him ahead of Andre Berto for his 49th fight.

Maidana couldn't trouble Floyd so I don't see G would present a significant threat besides being a bigger dude, Maidana cuts the ring off better then G, better on the inside and is very powerful; GGG is no where near as good as maidana when it comes to applying pressure, he has a great chin but Floyd would pick him off all night with his jab, GGG also doesn't have the speed to trouble Floyd, and speed is Floyd's krytonite as we saw in the past against the likes of Judah and Oscar which is why I'd like to see him face either Thurman or Amir at his natural weight.

With the numbers GGG has never done more then 170K buys in America so I don't think he'd have generated as much as the Manny fight even more so after his performance against DJ, lets just say he beat Canelo then I can see him crossing the 1 million barrier with Floyd but any of the top welters would achieve just that. It is only the Manny rematch and Conor fight that are capable of breaking PPV records

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Lee Selby will be making his world title defence after the current fight is done ! and then Eubank v AA will follow! I just caught a very entertaining super lightweight bout between a polish bloke and british prospect called Davies jr, was a cracking fight ! ITV have done a fantastic job with their second PPV thus far excellent presentation, solid under-card and some big names doing a bit of punditry including Crolla, Groves and Frampton. People ridiculed ITV when they pursued this project but little did they know that they are no strangers to the sport of Boxing! Good time for them to get into it at this stage! boxing is booming here and competition is always good!

Speaking of AA, I have immense respect for that warrior! can't believe he is still going and in the top 10 or top 5 of every publication in the SMW division! former two weight world champion with so much class, great test for Eubank at this stage of his career, AA is not in his prime but remains a world level opponent

 

[KingKhanWC]

If one is going to present an argument that Floyd is better then Ali why would they outline the Conor fight come on man it's a farce like you point out and will not be used to determine the legacy he has left behind because he has fought 49 times before that Ali is the undisputed greatest without a doubt though, Floyd has just achieved too much not to be considered amongst the greatest in history.

No Im just merely saying someone who makes such a big claim then goes to fight an MMA fighter in the squared circle looks even more silly to many people. It wont happen but imagine if he loses by getting knocked out , will this then ruin his legacy? I know one thing it would damage the sport of boxing, ignorant people will then claim boxing is a joke, MMA fighters are more skilled, more powerful etc..Is the money really worth the risk?

We'll see, it will be a close fight but am backing Canelo. I had DJ win compatibly when I was scoring the fight, tbh he had to get the KO to win because Canelo was brewing so the powers that be had every fail safe in place. Neither GGG or Canelo are as good as the hype suggests based on what they have achieved thus far, GGG KO'd bum after bum and the moment he fought an actual top 3 MW he struggled; Canelo on the other hand has big wins over Trout, Lara and Cotto but they could have been scored against him, he even looked like an amateur against Khan for 6 ounds; however whoever wins in September will have the bragging rights and earned genuine respect whilst having proven themselves.

Floyd gets unfair stick at times, every time a fighter calls him out and he doesn't face him it's considered a duck; in that case Triple G ducked Andre Ward as well then, Floyd's a natural between 147-150; how can a guy who is probably 20-30lb heavier then him on fight night going to be considered a duck, if he was at WW I'd agree with it but this is like saying Canelo called out Khan but Amir didn't face him so it's a duck. Floyd has ducked a few fighters in recent times but not Triple G, he ducked Khan twice and more recently when it made financial sense to face him ahead of Andre Berto for his 49th fight.

Maidana couldn't trouble Floyd so I don't see G would present a significant threat besides being a bigger dude, Maidana cuts the ring off better then G, better on the inside and is very powerful; GGG is no where near as good as maidana when it comes to applying pressure, he has a great chin but Floyd would pick him off all night with his jab, GGG also doesn't have the speed to trouble Floyd, and speed is Floyd's krytonite as we saw in the past against the likes of Judah and Oscar which is why I'd like to see him face either Thurman or Amir at his natural weight.

With the numbers GGG has never done more then 170K buys in America so I don't think he'd have generated as much as the Manny fight even more so after his performance against DJ, lets just say he beat Canelo then I can see him crossing the 1 million barrier with Floyd but any of the top welters would achieve just that. It is only the Manny rematch and Conor fight that are capable of breaking PPV records

GGG offered to fight Floyd at the same weight he's now fighting McGregor, it would have been advantage Floyd and he probably would have won but it would been a great fight against an unbeaten fighter who has one of the highest knockout ratios in the sports history. Maidana might have better movement but doesnt posses the accuracy and timing of shots GGG has. I think he is a fighter who is now past his peak but will not go down running against anyone.

As a boxing fan, it means nothing to me how much these boxers make and which fight is the bigger money spinner, it goes in their pockets not mine. I just want to see the best fights, Canelo V GGG is the best fight of this year by a long way. It's up to Floyd he's put himself in a position to dictate what he wants to earn and against who, cant knock him for this but he shouldn't constantly go on about his boxing record which has been far from impressive towards the recent end when he should just openly say he's into money more than his status as a great boxer.

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Lee Selby will be making his world title defence after the current fight is done ! and then Eubank v AA will follow! I just caught a very entertaining super lightweight bout between a polish bloke and british prospect called Davies jr, was a cracking fight ! ITV have done a fantastic job with their second PPV thus far excellent presentation, solid under-card and some big names doing a bit of punditry including Crolla, Groves and Frampton. People ridiculed ITV when they pursued this project but little did they know that they are no strangers to the sport of Boxing! Good time for them to get into it at this stage! boxing is booming here and competition is always good!

Speaking of AA, I have immense respect for that warrior! can't believe he is still going and in the top 10 or top 5 of every publication in the SMW division! former two weight world champion with so much class, great test for Eubank at this stage of his career, AA is not in his prime but remains a world level opponent

Sounds good, I'll try to catch this now too by finding a link at work.

Yes it will be a good challenge for Eubank, lets see if AA can cause an upset as he's done so many times in the past.

 

[shaz619]

No Im just merely saying someone who makes such a big claim then goes to fight an MMA fighter in the squared circle looks even more silly to many people. It wont happen but imagine if he loses by getting knocked out , will this then ruin his legacy? I know one thing it would damage the sport of boxing, ignorant people will then claim boxing is a joke, MMA fighters are more skilled, more powerful etc..Is the money really worth the risk?



GGG offered to fight Floyd at the same weight he's now fighting McGregor, it would have been advantage Floyd and he probably would have won but it would been a great fight against an unbeaten fighter who has one of the highest knockout ratios in the sports history. Maidana might have better movement but doesnt posses the accuracy and timing of shots GGG has. I think he is a fighter who is now past his peak but will not go down running against anyone.

As a boxing fan, it means nothing to me how much these boxers make and which fight is the bigger money spinner, it goes in their pockets not mine. I just want to see the best fights, Canelo V GGG is the best fight of this year by a long way. It's up to Floyd he's put himself in a position to dictate what he wants to earn and against who, cant knock him for this but he shouldn't constantly go on about his boxing record which has been far from impressive towards the recent end when he should just openly say he's into money more than his status as a great boxer.

If Conor beat Floyd then definitely, everything he has achieved will go down the drain and the sport of boxing would be ridiculed for a long time but I can't even imagine that and I have a respect for his accomplishments despite this bout because he ranks as a top 10 P4P fighter of all time.

Maidana during the last 6 fights of his career completely altered his style under a new trainer, he became a lot more accurate with his power punches and applied pressure even better; it's a huge accomplishment that he had life and death with Floyd in a very close fight, no fighter has been able to test Floyd ever since Oscar but it was maidana who managed that. GGG is slower and not as good when it comes to cutting the ring off, he has a better jab then maidana but that's about it, we saw how off GGG's timing was vs a guy who moved quiet well on his feet and boxed on his back foot using the jab beautifully in Jacobs; imagine what Floyd would do to him?

Assuming GGG was even willing to come down to 154, he'd be weight drained and no where near as effective; it would be a lopsided UD win for Floyd; he has a big KO percentage but most of those fighters were bums, yes it's not his fault the MW has been weak or some guys who avoided him but he failed to put DJ away who is in the top 3 or top 2 best at 160. Everyone wants a big fat paycheck these days more then proving themselves, otherwise GGG would have tested himself against Andre Ward; Ward is a warrior who had enough chasing GGG and decided to move up to face a man who killed a fighter in the ring! and not only did he step in the ring with him once but twice!

The reason why Floyd is in the current position where he is the A side and others are not is simply because he has taken more risks then other fighters have, his resume is absolutely stellar and even in the second half he has beaten the likes of Canelo, Manny, Maidana 2, Cotto and Marquez with ease which is why he constantly goes on about his record because he has barely had any easy fights; he just beats people ease and is criticised for his style which is not crowd pleasing; he's not a likeable guy but I can get his frustration as well at times because he's rarely given much respect but all that heat is money for him in the end, even the boxing traitors have switched their support for Conor because they hate Floyd that much

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

Superb performance by Selby, from the first bell to the last bell he totally dominated the Argentinian. The cut didn't hold him and it's a shame he didnt stop his opponent after knocking him down in the 12th.

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Eubank Jnr was too young and too fresh for an old AA. Have to give credit to Eubank for the intensity he showed and throwing multiple punch combinations, some of those shots did hurt AA but he was never getting knocked out, even if another 12 rounds were fought.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

Superb performance by Selby, from the first bell to the last bell he totally dominated the Argentinian. The cut didn't hold him and it's a shame he didnt stop his opponent after knocking him down in the 12th.

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Eubank Jnr was too young and too fresh for an old AA. Have to give credit to Eubank for the intensity he showed and throwing multiple punch combinations, some of those shots did hurt AA but he was never getting knocked out, even if another 12 rounds were fought.

Remarkable performance from Lee Selby even more so when I learned this morning that his mother passed away a couple of days before the fight (he could have pulled out if he wanted and no one would have complained but he also thought of his opponent to who needed to get paid and his own team to) ! I have no idea how on earth he managed to remain so professional and maintain his composure, he along with Kal Yafai / Degale are the three most underrated boxers in the UK.

Also, that argentinian is no bum either he has only been beaten by elite opposition with one of them being the highly rated Mikey Garcia. If there was another minute in round 12 Selby would have stopped him, Selby only applies aggression when it is safe for him to do so otherwise he is happy to box your ears for 12 rounds and use his reach, footwork, speed and lateral movement; his power is underestimated because he doesn't have as many KO's on his resume but he can hurt you. World class performance though and was mighty impressed with what he did, hopefully Frampton wins his next fight to set up a super fight with Selby.

AA's durability is unreal and he had his moments at times but the younger and fresher opponent as you say was too much for a fighter in the twilight of his career, Eubank's work rate is incredible; his power does concern me a little but when he puts his punches together like that I don't think it matters as much ! but a minor cause for concern and something for him to work on. He also needs to make sure he doesn't leave himself too open, he could afford to do that against AA who stands square but against a George Groves it would be dangerous ! look forward to his participation in the world super boxing series.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] it was an excellent card put together by ITV ! 8.5/10 from me, excellent undercard and every fight delivered. For their second PPV they've done a brilliant job and hopefully after this will attract some of the bigger names to put on great events in the future

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] KO Artist and dangerous LHW Joe Smith Jr who retired Bernard Hopkins was beaten on points by Sullivan Barrera, a guy who Andre Ward faced as a LHW tune up before facing Kovalev !!!! P4P no.1 and a modern great, those who disagree need to be arrested man the names he has beaten now at SMW and LHW is unreal what a resume, he has beaten elite talent after elite talent, maybe with a better promotional company he'd be presented better

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Who do you want to see Ward face next?

Out of these names:

Bellew
Stevenson
Canelo / GGG (Unlikely due to weight disagreements unfortunately and the nature of Ward being a high risk fight)

But man I would love to see Ward v GGG / Canelo winner , it's the type of fight which would give him the recognition he deserves even though he is the undisputed no.1 best in the world in my eyes.

I would add Kovalev to my list of Ward potential opponents and I know you're a fan of the guy and I am to but honestly I don't see them pursuing Ward for a 3rd time, Kovalev is a warrior but Ward took a lot out of him and they weren't as hyped in search for a rematch as they were after the first battle and have barely made any noise after the defeat

 

[London_Lahori]

[MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] it was an excellent card put together by ITV ! 8.5/10 from me, excellent undercard and every fight delivered. For their second PPV they've done a brilliant job and hopefully after this will attract some of the bigger names to put on great events in the future

Can't afford to fork out for PPV's at the moment tbh and I've been too busy to watch the fight. How did Eubank do?

 

[shaz619]

Can't afford to fork out for PPV's at the moment tbh and I've been too busy to watch the fight. How did Eubank do?

I can't either but still watched it they put on a better card then some of Eddie's recent PPV's on sky outside AJ/Wladmir

He put on a great performance, outstanding work-rate as usual and great movement; tends to leave himself too open at times though, it's something to work on and the power is a minor concern to otherwise punch perfect. Lee Selby was outstanding, performance of the night for me; lateral movement, combinations, excellent footwork and one of the best jabs at his weight to overwhelm the Argentinian

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] KO Artist and dangerous LHW Joe Smith Jr who retired Bernard Hopkins was beaten on points by Sullivan Barrera, a guy who Andre Ward faced as a LHW tune up before facing Kovalev !!!! P4P no.1 and a modern great, those who disagree need to be arrested man the names he has beaten now at SMW and LHW is unreal what a resume, he has beaten elite talent after elite talent, maybe with a better promotional company he'd be presented better

I will have to catch this fight then! Most people who know anything of boxing know Andre Ward is the P4P king, one of the most underated boxers around. I love the way he seems to sense the type of shot coming towards him even before his opponent seems to know and he has his counter ready!

From your other post, I would too love a fight between the winner of Canelo/GGG and if GGG wins I think the fight can be made with a catchweight, Ward can come down a few lbs without a problem. I can't see GGG beating Ward though but it would be a very interesting fight.

Totally agree with your posts regarding Selby and AA.

 

[shaz619]

I will have to catch this fight then! Most people who know anything of boxing know Andre Ward is the P4P king, one of the most underated boxers around. I love the way he seems to sense the type of shot coming towards him even before his opponent seems to know and he has his counter ready!

From your other post, I would too love a fight between the winner of Canelo/GGG and if GGG wins I think the fight can be made with a catchweight, Ward can come down a few lbs without a problem. I can't see GGG beating Ward though but it would be a very interesting fight.

Totally agree with your posts regarding Selby and AA.

From LHW and below there really is no one who I can see beating Ward so am not surprised by his claim that he'd move up to CW or even HW to face Anthony Joshua ! that is unlikely but if Conor/Floyd can happen who's to fault Ward for seeking an insane challenge because come to think of it, we probably wouldn't bet against him at CW either ! do you see Bellew or David Haye beating Ward ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

From LHW and below there really is no one who I can see beating Ward so am not surprised by his claim that he'd move up to CW or even HW to face Anthony Joshua ! that is unlikely but if Conor/Floyd can happen who's to fault Ward for seeking an insane challenge because come to think of it, we probably wouldn't bet against him at CW either ! do you see Bellew or David Haye beating Ward ?

No imo Bellew and Haye have little chance to defeat Ward, I dont even believe they would come as close as Kovelov did. Joshua v Ward would be a great contest and certainly could happen if Joshua agrees. Ward would be risky a heavy knockout against AJ but if he can keeep away from those big shots, he could win on points. I think Ward may take on Bellew first at heavyweight and then call out AJ. Intersting times ahead for Ward.

 

[shaz619]

I don't read The Sun 90% of the time [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] but their writers for British Boxing are generally pretty good. Do you agree with this P4P British Boxing top 20:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4046268/the-top-20-pound-for-pound-best-boxers-in-britain/

1. Anthony Joshua
2. Carl Frampton
3. Tony Bellew
4. James Degale
5. BJS
6. Amir Khan
7. Lee Selby
8. George Groves
9. Kell Brook
10. Terry Flanagan
11. Jamie McDonnell
12. Anthony Crolla
13. Nathan Cleverly
14. Kal Yafai
15. Ryan Burnett
16. Chris Eubank Jnr
17. Scott Quigg
18. David Haye
19. Ricky Burns
20. Callum Smith

Generally it's a very good list, I'd swap Bellew with Degale and have him at no.3, would take Kell out of the top 10 and install Kal Yafai instead and get Chris Eubank in ahead of Flanagan

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] No Billy Joe Saunders?

I agree AJ should be top after his win against Wlad, he's becoming the real deal now.

Bellew is too high at 3, yes he's beaten Haye but he won his belt off a decent but not great fighter. I agree Brook should be out of the top 10 and Kal should be there instead. If Khan wins his next fight against a good oppononent, he should rise to no.2.

BBC used to have their own rankings but I don't they do anymore but the Sun although a trashy news paper ha always been good for sport.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] No Billy Joe Saunders?

I agree AJ should be top after his win against Wlad, he's becoming the real deal now.

Bellew is too high at 3, yes he's beaten Haye but he won his belt off a decent but not great fighter. I agree Brook should be out of the top 10 and Kal should be there instead. If Khan wins his next fight against a good oppononent, he should rise to no.2.

BBC used to have their own rankings but I don't they do anymore but the Sun although a trashy news paper ha always been good for sport.

The writer had BJS at no.5 I was too lazy to type his name fully Haye was on one leg as well, Bellew only big win I rate is the one over Makabu; what I increasingly hate is fighters winning a world title belt and then moving up in weight or vacating the title for other endeavours, no respect for world championship status, or worse they will hold the title hostage and beat bum after bum in their back garden. True Sun is decent for sport, BBC use to have them as a fix but only post their P4P rankings infrequently.

Khan will have a tune up fight in November or December then in 2018 he is more likely to face either Lamont Peterson or Danny Garcia. I think Lamont Peterson is more likely because he has the WBA (regular) world title, they regard is as a world title but I see it more as an interim world championship which puts you in pole position to face the super champ in this case Keith Thurman.

The positive is that the best at 147 are all managed by Al Haymon; Spence, Garcia, Peterson , Porter and Thurman are all contracted by PBC including Amir Khan so he is likely to face one of those names next year and I think it will be Lamont Peterson.

Amir can be good enough if the same motivation exists but he has been in the game a long time so I question his desire, despite not being at his peak and lost some of his years to inactivity Khan can still go if he wants to and the good thing is the family duels are all sorted now and he seems to have a solid team behind him, the next question is is the desire there? Linares is 31 or 32 and suffered 3 or 4 devastating KO losses but he recovered and his now a 3 weight world champion and holds a lineal championship. But you know being a family man and a fighter it can make you a little weak at times and with him being an apna like us he loves them curry houses and pizza's, chills out a lot, does charity work every where which is a good thing but if am honest he's behaving like a retired fighter but not one who truly wants to cement his legacy at this point which is a shame because although I rate him as an ATG British Boxer who has had a phenomenal career he has not fulfilled his initial potential, turbulent team management and stuff beyond the ring have been his downfall and poor career moves.

He has got this far based on RAW talent and in many ways is similar to the Pakistan cricket team , with a better team and coach early on who looked to develop the in-ring IQ and make better use of his gifts he could have taken over Boxing like Floyd/Manny; but they went for the quick buck and I suppose he has made his money but still. While it may not be as satisfying in the grand scheme if he can win another world title it would give his career a nice pay off and a good way to redeem himself whilst shutting up pundits who wrote him off at this stage of his career but will be big task.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] [MENTION=48620]Cpt. Rishwat[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

How did you guys score that fight? I scored it 115-115 ! a draw ! Maidana gave Floyd absolute hell and had the judges given him the fight on that night I'd not complain at all, first time Floyd had been tested since Oscar De La Hoya and Castillo. That was the blue print for a hunter to beat Floyd, rough him up, cut the ring off, maintain an exceptional work rate, make the fight dirty and surprise Floyd with a jab when he's expecting a looping right.

For a boxer the blue print is Oscar de la hoya, you make best use of your speed, control the centre and not remain in the pocket for too long; which is why I believe Amir would have been a stylistic nightmare for Floyd. Anyhow a terrific performance by Maidana who Amir beat convincingly, Floyd was literally on the edge of death itself; I suppose the saving grace for Maidana was that he got the rematch and another hefty pay day which allowed him to retire unofficially:

 

[shaz619]

Chino fella is enjoying the life

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] these two are hilarious don't know why I didn't come across them before lmao :

Also, Broner v Garcia is on tonight on sky sports top fight

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] I too scored it the same as you. The only reason I wouldn't have given it to Maidana is because I believe in the old school unwritten rule of beating the champion very convincingly to take his titles. But what's happened to him, he blown up big time. I guess he's taking a break but I dont like fighters getting out shape.

Did you catch Garcia V Broner or Muhammad Waseem's fight in Panama?

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] I too scored it the same as you. The only reason I wouldn't have given it to Maidana is because I believe in the old school unwritten rule of beating the champion very convincingly to take his titles. But what's happened to him, he blown up big time. I guess he's taking a break but I dont like fighters getting out shape.

Did you catch Garcia V Broner or Muhammad Waseem's fight in Panama?

True, but I commend his incredible performance; it had been a long time since someone really tested Floyd, we criticise his defensive style but to be fair to him it's on the onus of his opponent as well to make him fight and Maidana made him fight like the pretty boy. Maidana is pretty much retired mate lmao he spends the rest of his days at the local kebab shop and pizzeria, it's what two huge pay days from a Floyd fight does; I'd expect the same from Mcgregor but he has 4-5 fights left on his UFC contract and tbh I think there's a chance he may lose some of those fights because his hunger/desire may not be there because in the end beyond legacy it's about ensuring the financial security of your family, these men fight first and foremost to put food on the table and we tend to forget that.

I watched both, I find what has come of Broner incredibly Bizzare; so much talent but he fights like a journeyman looking to survive over 12 rounds then actually win? maybe he needs to change trainer and go to the Wildcard. But credit to Mikey Garcia, the unorthodox movement of Broner did not phase him and he broke him down, classy points win. What I find extremely unfair is that Lomochenko gets all the praise in the world for beating guys who Garcia defeated years ago! I find it extremely hypocritical, he's in fact rated in the top 10 P4P ranking and Garcia is no where to be found when he has earned it. Lomochenko is no doubt talented no denying that but I just feel Garcia has achieved more.

Hope Lomochenko steps up a division eventually, so many super fights that are available including one against Garcia. I expect Linares to face Garcia eventually, that should be one hell of a bout to determine the lineal champion in the division.

Yeah I watched Muhammad Waseem, it was a great KO and his body punching is excellent; he just needs to focus a little more on lateral movement be it his feet or head to get out of harms way otherwise his fundamentals are very strong given the amateur pedigree and he has translated to the pro ranks quiet well. His style is very similar to Mikey Garcia, think he should model himself on that fighter; Garcia is better at angling and stepping out something Waseem should adapt and look to set up his body punches a bit better with linear punches.

I have no doubt waseem will be world champion but I fear the opportunity could be coming a bit too early, he is better then the average fighter with the same number of pro fights due to the amateur experience but I still think he needs more exposure in the pro ranks, he was a little careless during his stoppage win and you can't afford to do that when you're fighting a high calibre opponent. Even Lomachenko fought for a world title a little early and lost. But am generally satisfied with Waseem's overall progress and he has a world class team behind him, is it just me or is his trainer Jeff Mayweather the only one who seems normal out of all the Mayweathers? top bloke. I have a concern though that for Waseems most recent bout he relied on funding from the Pakistan government which his promoter did receive but for his world title bout they will need even more support from the Pakistan government and with Nawaz Sharif being disqualified by the supreme court it could complicate things [MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] ?

Anyhow [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Andrew Selby also won an eliminator for the WBC world title and Waseem is ranked no.1 so am not sure who will get a shot at Japan’s Diago Higa first ?, the current WBC flyweight world champion. If Andrew Selby gets the shot first and most likely will become champ then Waseem would challenge him for the belt potentially in England, Selby is an exceptional talent with a similar amateur pedigree as Waseem; his lateral movement with regards to his foot work is better and he is also superior in the speed department, stylistically he's a little similar to Kal Yafai but Kal packs more of a pop in his hands. It would be a difficult fight for Waseem, he'd have to cutt Selby off, break him down and look for a stoppage in the later rounds because I think it will be tough to win a 12 round decision against him, it would be a really close fight.

 

[WebGuru]

I have a concern though that for Waseems most recent bout he relied on funding from the Pakistan government which his promoter did receive but for his world title bout they will need even more support from the Pakistan government and with Nawaz Sharif being disqualified by the supreme court it could complicate things [MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] ?

He said good bye to his chances of receiving any funding from AND future Sharif Govt when he won a fight in Panama yes freaking PANAMA the nightmare for the house of Sharifs!

 

[shaz619]

He said good bye to his chances of receiving any funding from AND future Sharif Govt when he won a fight in Panama yes freaking PANAMA the nightmare for the house of Sharifs!

They are hoping to fight for a world title around November or December and I know right LOL the IRONY ) But is there even a remote chance that he can get support from the government ? or maybe somewhere else in Pakistan ? it's a damn shame because it seems to me the Waseem team are hell bent on fighting for a world title (I feel it is so because they feel they can claim the WBC title from the Japanese guy because it could be a tougher task if Selby becomes champ be it from a negotiation POV or the fight itself) and if that's the case then I want them to go all out and have everything they need to ensure a world class training camp, so damn close; his luck is god awful, this man should have been an Olympic champion as well but due to the corruption in his country he wasn't able to to succeed at that level but did extremely well to punch above his weight due to the raw ability and hard work.

 

[WebGuru]

They are hoping to fight for a world title around November or December and I know right LOL the IRONY ) But is there even a remote chance that he can get support from the government ? or maybe somewhere else in Pakistan ? it's a damn shame because it seems to me the Waseem team are hell bent on fighting for a world title (I feel it is so because they feel they can claim the WBC title from the Japanese guy because it could be a tougher task if Selby becomes champ be it from a negotiation POV or the fight itself) and if that's the case then I want them to go all out and have everything they need to ensure a world class training camp, so damn close; his luck is god awful, this man should have been an Olympic champion as well but due to the corruption in his country he wasn't able to to succeed at that level but did extremely well to punch above his weight due to the raw ability and hard work.

TBH i can't see him getting any funding from govt. The Snooker champ Asif is still waiting for that 1 crore promised by Pak govt. Younis Khan yesterday said he is also waiting for the 1 crore promised by Pak govt. Our govt are only good at promising money because that help them get some good media coverage. Waseem should contact Malik Riaz instead of Govt he can help him easily just like he did in past for many pak players from different sports.

 

[KingKhanWC]

True, but I commend his incredible performance; it had been a long time since someone really tested Floyd, we criticise his defensive style but to be fair to him it's on the onus of his opponent as well to make him fight and Maidana made him fight like the pretty boy. Maidana is pretty much retired mate lmao he spends the rest of his days at the local kebab shop and pizzeria, it's what two huge pay days from a Floyd fight does; I'd expect the same from Mcgregor but he has 4-5 fights left on his UFC contract and tbh I think there's a chance he may lose some of those fights because his hunger/desire may not be there because in the end beyond legacy it's about ensuring the financial security of your family, these men fight first and foremost to put food on the table and we tend to forget that.

I watched both, I find what has come of Broner incredibly Bizzare; so much talent but he fights like a journeyman looking to survive over 12 rounds then actually win? maybe he needs to change trainer and go to the Wildcard. But credit to Mikey Garcia, the unorthodox movement of Broner did not phase him and he broke him down, classy points win. What I find extremely unfair is that Lomochenko gets all the praise in the world for beating guys who Garcia defeated years ago! I find it extremely hypocritical, he's in fact rated in the top 10 P4P ranking and Garcia is no where to be found when he has earned it. Lomochenko is no doubt talented no denying that but I just feel Garcia has achieved more.

Hope Lomochenko steps up a division eventually, so many super fights that are available including one against Garcia. I expect Linares to face Garcia eventually, that should be one hell of a bout to determine the lineal champion in the division.

Yeah I watched Muhammad Waseem, it was a great KO and his body punching is excellent; he just needs to focus a little more on lateral movement be it his feet or head to get out of harms way otherwise his fundamentals are very strong given the amateur pedigree and he has translated to the pro ranks quiet well. His style is very similar to Mikey Garcia, think he should model himself on that fighter; Garcia is better at angling and stepping out something Waseem should adapt and look to set up his body punches a bit better with linear punches.

I have no doubt waseem will be world champion but I fear the opportunity could be coming a bit too early, he is better then the average fighter with the same number of pro fights due to the amateur experience but I still think he needs more exposure in the pro ranks, he was a little careless during his stoppage win and you can't afford to do that when you're fighting a high calibre opponent. Even Lomachenko fought for a world title a little early and lost. But am generally satisfied with Waseem's overall progress and he has a world class team behind him, is it just me or is his trainer Jeff Mayweather the only one who seems normal out of all the Mayweathers? top bloke. I have a concern though that for Waseems most recent bout he relied on funding from the Pakistan government which his promoter did receive but for his world title bout they will need even more support from the Pakistan government and with Nawaz Sharif being disqualified by the supreme court it could complicate things [MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] ?

Anyhow [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Andrew Selby also won an eliminator for the WBC world title and Waseem is ranked no.1 so am not sure who will get a shot at Japan’s Diago Higa first ?, the current WBC flyweight world champion. If Andrew Selby gets the shot first and most likely will become champ then Waseem would challenge him for the belt potentially in England, Selby is an exceptional talent with a similar amateur pedigree as Waseem; his lateral movement with regards to his foot work is better and he is also superior in the speed department, stylistically he's a little similar to Kal Yafai but Kal packs more of a pop in his hands. It would be a difficult fight for Waseem, he'd have to cutt Selby off, break him down and look for a stoppage in the later rounds because I think it will be tough to win a 12 round decision against him, it would be a really close fight.

Couldn't find Waseems fight but watched Broner V Garcia and was very disappointed in Broner! From round 1 he was hesitant to the point he almost looked a little scared. From then on he was unable to assert himself on his opponent. He lacked control and positioning throughout the fight, even his guard kept changing every other round, doing all sorts of faints but producing very little. His feet were all over the place too, not aligned correctly and not in motion with his opponent, making him easy to hit esp with the straight right which penetrated his defences with ease. Garcia on the other hand was the opposite, very assured from the first bell, excellent technique and foot movement with good accuracy. Broner being the bigger man should have really been more aggressive. It's prize fighting not theater!

I agree Selby will get the shot but Waseem would be mad to turn down this opportunity if it arises. Selby would be clear favourite for sure. As Waseem is training with Jeff Mayweather, do you know if he's been to the Mayweather gym in Vegas?

 

[shaz619]

Couldn't find Waseems fight but watched Broner V Garcia and was very disappointed in Broner! From round 1 he was hesitant to the point he almost looked a little scared. From then on he was unable to assert himself on his opponent. He lacked control and positioning throughout the fight, even his guard kept changing every other round, doing all sorts of faints but producing very little. His feet were all over the place too, not aligned correctly and not in motion with his opponent, making him easy to hit esp with the straight right which penetrated his defences with ease. Garcia on the other hand was the opposite, very assured from the first bell, excellent technique and foot movement with good accuracy. Broner being the bigger man should have really been more aggressive. It's prize fighting not theater!

I agree Selby will get the shot but Waseem would be mad to turn down this opportunity if it arises. Selby would be clear favourite for sure. As Waseem is training with Jeff Mayweather, do you know if he's been to the Mayweather gym in Vegas?

I don't have an issue with Broner's movements and they've worked well for him in the past but when he doesn't follow up on them and doesn't set up any punches what's the point? he made himself look like an idiot, it was very bizzare; look at someone like linares or Lee Selby both move really well on their back foot but work of their jab, feint, slip and slide, bob and weave before unleashing bombs. Broner fought like a journeyman looking to survive 12 rounds lol I think Freddie Roach would whip him back into shape

I think Selby would be favourite to but would still give Waseem a chance because he's a high calibre fighter with excellent fundamentals, just needs more exposure. Yeah he has been training in Vegas with Jeff and has been exposed to the world class set up whenever he has had the funds to do so, Jeff travelled with him recently for the Panama fight as well which was great

Waseem is the one in the grey, admittedly in that instance his sparring partner was more of a get back into the groove sort of opponent rather then working on tactics

But here's another vid where he spars a highly rated American prospect:

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

 

[mani1]

Any one watch Singh vs Chinese guy?

Heard Singh got a gift along with a home town referee

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

Thanks for sharing. Waseem looks in great shape and it;s nice to hear Jeff Mayweather sees something special in him. It's shocking his fights are not broadcast live in Pakistan as this guy is a future world champion and im dont think Pakistan has ever produced one before.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Wow, didn't know he was this light.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Another stunning performance from Lomachenko, he is currently campaigning at 130lb and the only fight at that weight which interests me Salidio who beat Lomachenko for the world title in a close fight; at that point it was only Lomachenko's second fight but he's an even better fighter now having gained more experience but still needs to tighten up his defence and keep those hands up; he's great at side stepping and non linear angles which get him out of harms way but that overconfidence may prove to be his downfall one of the days as well because he does at times leave him self too open when dominating fighters; he did admit it's an area for improvement.

Anyhow at 130lb it looks like Salidio who won't be in the game much longer is happy with his win over a high calibre talent and is in no hurry to face him in a rematch so I think that fight is not going to happen.

So there are two options for Lomachenko:

1. Rigondeaux moves from 122lb to 130lb in order to face Lomachenko

2. Lomachenko moves from 130lb to 135lb to face Mickey Garcia

3. Lomachenko moves from 130lb to 140lb to face Terence Crawford

All of them are great fights, Rigondeaux would be a little handicapped moving up two weight classes but he's an elite talent and the fight is intriguing.

The Garcia fight would be a little more evenly matched in terms of the weight and a genuine super-fight among two of the best fighters over the last 5-7 years between 130-135lb.

Lomachenko would be taking the risk by making a big jump in weight having previously campaigned at featherweight when he first made his pro debut but given his talent the fight is far from a mismatch and out of all the fighters you'd probably put more money on Crawford beating Lomachenko so I think he'd be his most challenging opponent; both are incredibly skilled and have an high boxing IQ; Crawdford would probably have the edge over Lomachenko when it comes to his power and size; the question mark would be how Lomachenko would deal with that and if his own power would carry over from the 130lb division.


Who do you want to see Lomachenko fight ideally?

 

[kingusama92]

Lomachenko is so damn entertaining.

Straight up taunted Marriaga in round 3.

 

[kingusama92]

So there are two options for Lomachenko:

1. Rigondeaux moves from 122lb to 130lb in order to face Lomachenko

2. Lomachenko moves from 130lb to 135lb to face Mickey Garcia

3. Lomachenko moves from 130lb to 140lb to face Terence Crawford

Who do you want to see Lomachenko fight ideally?

I'd love to see the Garcia fight.

Gervonta Davis would be great but he seems unwilling.

 

[shaz619]

I'd love to see the Garcia fight.

Gervonta Davis would be great but he seems unwilling.

Good shout mate, Davis is probably the only interesting fight other then Salido which I'd like to see at 130lb but you just have to see who Gervonta is managed by as far as the fight happening is concerned otherwise Gervonta would have no issues getting in the ring with him. In their defence, Davis is a young and inexperienced champion who has accomplished a fair amount in a short space of time; perhaps Lomachenko may not be the most ideal opponent at this stage in his career; recall a young Alvarez who wasn't at his peak being dominated by Floyd in a one sided contest. Not saying Davis will look out of his depth on that level and in fact I see him giving Lomacheno his toughest fight since Salido but he'd be risking is unbeaten record.

I'd love to see the Garcia fight to who has a chip on his shoulder because Lomacheno got all the applause for beating guys he had taken out years ago! it's a PPV fight with great back story between two of the best between 130-135lb over the last 5 years or so.

I agree he was toying with Marriaga! maybe the Ali comparisons are not too far fetched on some level !

Man he's so great to watch despite the fact that his fights are so one sided, reminds me a little of Manny when he was starting out

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=48620]Cpt. Rishwat[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/41815...on-easyjet-flight-and-smoking-in-the-toilets/

PUNCH DRUNK Kell Brook ‘quizzed by cops after causing drunken havoc on easyJet flight and smoking in the toilets

The captain reportedly threatened to make an emergency stop as Brook and pals were 'throwing things around'

FORMER world welterweight champion boxer Kell Brook was quizzed by cops after being accused of causing drunken havoc on a packed easyJet flight and smoking in the toilets.

Brook, 31, was allegedly swearing and shouting with friends on the trip from Liverpool to Barcelona before being questioned by police when the plane touched down in the Spanish city.

James Robinson, 35, and his girlfriend Megan Christowe, 34, claimed they were shocked by the disturbance on June 24 sparked by the talented Sheffield-based fighter.

James, of Boston, Lincs, told the Daily Star that Brook and his friends were “drunk and carried on drinking booze they’d bought in the airport”.

He claimed: “They were loud and Kell’s mate was throwing things around, everyone was getting pretty annoyed.”

It is alleged that at one point after the seatbelt sign went on and after the captain announced over a tannoy that a passenger was smoking in the toilets, Brook emerged from the loos stinking of fags.

The captain also reportedly warned passengers they would have to make an unscheduled stop in France, according to the Daily Star.

James said that he captured a photo of police speaking to Brook and his mates as he left the rear of the plane.

He added: “I wish I’d videoed his behaviour, but you don’t want to pick a fight with a champion boxer.”

A spokesperson for easyJet said: “easyJet can confirm that police met a flight from Liverpool to Barcelona on arrival at Barcelona due to two passengers behaving disruptively.



“easyJet’s cabin crew are highly trained to assess and evaluate all situations and to act quickly and appropriately to ensure that the safety of the flight and other passengers is not compromised at any time.

“Whilst such incidents are rare we take them very seriously and do not tolerate abusive or threatening behaviour on board.

“The safety and wellbeing of passengers and crew is always easyJet’s priority.”

A spokesman for the Civil Guard in Barcelona told the Daily Star: “On June 24 at about 10.50am we received a request that we attend a flight arriving from Liverpool.

"It appeared two difficult passengers were travelling.

“The Civil Guard attended the arrival area for the flight and contacted the personnel on board who informed us that there were two difficult passengers, in a drunken state, bothering passengers during the flight and even smoking on board during the journey.

“The flight captain lodged a complaint with the Civil Guard for breach of air navigation rules by these two passengers, both of whom travelled with British passports.

“The Civil Guard accompanied the passengers to a public area without further incident.

"Neither of them was arrested.”

Brook's fight career was thrown into question when he suffered a broken eye socket as he lost his IBF world welterweight title to American Errol Spence Jr around a month before the easyJet flight incident.

He also broke an eye socket when he jumped up in weight to fight fearsome middleweight Gennady Golovkin in September last year.

Brook, who calls himself "Special K", was stopped in the fifth round of the clash with the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world.

For years Brook has been linked to an eagerly-anticipated grudge fight with domestic rival Amir Khan, which has never materialised.

It's not the first time controversy has dogged Brook career, as he was stabbed in the leg by a machete-wielding thug in Tenerife in 2007 and left needing 32 metal staples in his left thigh.

The classy boxer, who trained at the same Sheffield gym as Prince Naseem Hamed, has vowed to return at light-middleweight following a second eye operation.

He said: "The surgeon said the operation was a success.

"I expect to make a full recovery and I want to fight again in 2017.

"I still have a massive future in the sport."



ManDown [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION]

 

[mani1]

[MENTION=48620]Cpt. Rishwat[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/41815...on-easyjet-flight-and-smoking-in-the-toilets/

PUNCH DRUNK Kell Brook ‘quizzed by cops after causing drunken havoc on easyJet flight and smoking in the toilets

The captain reportedly threatened to make an emergency stop as Brook and pals were 'throwing things around'

FORMER world welterweight champion boxer Kell Brook was quizzed by cops after being accused of causing drunken havoc on a packed easyJet flight and smoking in the toilets.

Brook, 31, was allegedly swearing and shouting with friends on the trip from Liverpool to Barcelona before being questioned by police when the plane touched down in the Spanish city.

James Robinson, 35, and his girlfriend Megan Christowe, 34, claimed they were shocked by the disturbance on June 24 sparked by the talented Sheffield-based fighter.

James, of Boston, Lincs, told the Daily Star that Brook and his friends were “drunk and carried on drinking booze they’d bought in the airport”.

He claimed: “They were loud and Kell’s mate was throwing things around, everyone was getting pretty annoyed.”

It is alleged that at one point after the seatbelt sign went on and after the captain announced over a tannoy that a passenger was smoking in the toilets, Brook emerged from the loos stinking of fags.

The captain also reportedly warned passengers they would have to make an unscheduled stop in France, according to the Daily Star.

James said that he captured a photo of police speaking to Brook and his mates as he left the rear of the plane.

He added: “I wish I’d videoed his behaviour, but you don’t want to pick a fight with a champion boxer.”

A spokesperson for easyJet said: “easyJet can confirm that police met a flight from Liverpool to Barcelona on arrival at Barcelona due to two passengers behaving disruptively.



“easyJet’s cabin crew are highly trained to assess and evaluate all situations and to act quickly and appropriately to ensure that the safety of the flight and other passengers is not compromised at any time.

“Whilst such incidents are rare we take them very seriously and do not tolerate abusive or threatening behaviour on board.

“The safety and wellbeing of passengers and crew is always easyJet’s priority.”

A spokesman for the Civil Guard in Barcelona told the Daily Star: “On June 24 at about 10.50am we received a request that we attend a flight arriving from Liverpool.

"It appeared two difficult passengers were travelling.

“The Civil Guard attended the arrival area for the flight and contacted the personnel on board who informed us that there were two difficult passengers, in a drunken state, bothering passengers during the flight and even smoking on board during the journey.

“The flight captain lodged a complaint with the Civil Guard for breach of air navigation rules by these two passengers, both of whom travelled with British passports.

“The Civil Guard accompanied the passengers to a public area without further incident.

"Neither of them was arrested.”

Brook's fight career was thrown into question when he suffered a broken eye socket as he lost his IBF world welterweight title to American Errol Spence Jr around a month before the easyJet flight incident.

He also broke an eye socket when he jumped up in weight to fight fearsome middleweight Gennady Golovkin in September last year.

Brook, who calls himself "Special K", was stopped in the fifth round of the clash with the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world.

For years Brook has been linked to an eagerly-anticipated grudge fight with domestic rival Amir Khan, which has never materialised.

It's not the first time controversy has dogged Brook career, as he was stabbed in the leg by a machete-wielding thug in Tenerife in 2007 and left needing 32 metal staples in his left thigh.

The classy boxer, who trained at the same Sheffield gym as Prince Naseem Hamed, has vowed to return at light-middleweight following a second eye operation.

He said: "The surgeon said the operation was a success.

"I expect to make a full recovery and I want to fight again in 2017.

"I still have a massive future in the sport."



ManDown [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION]

Lol why would a millionaire use easy Jet lol and from Liverpool too lol propa cheapskate.

 

[shaz619]

Lol why would a millionaire use easy Jet lol and from Liverpool too lol propa cheapskate.

MUH EYE MUH EYE He could't see mani1 he thought it was Virgin Atlantic

 

[shaz619]

The man lost THREE eyes ! His right eye, his left eye and hie EyeBF belt!. All due to Spence [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] #StrapSeason completely finished the guy off, I seriously think he should retire; his brain cells have been completely damaged and he lacks bottle as well a recipe for disaster in the ring.

 

[shaz619]

Can you believe he held that title for 3 years fought bum after bum and then quit the moment he was really tested at 147 a

And LOL @ "His mate" ! Whom he got excitedly drunk with and spent a night 'partying' together.

Smoking in the toilets ? were they really smoking cigarettes?

A few weeks away from his woman, no wonder Kell was so excited!
[MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION]

 

[mani1]

Can you believe he held that title for 3 years fought bum after bum and then quit the moment he was really tested at 147 a

And LOL @ "His mate" ! Whom he got excitedly drunk with and spent a night 'partying' together.

Smoking in the toilets ? were they really smoking cigarettes?

A few weeks away from his woman, no wonder Kell was so excited!
[MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION]

I called it on here for years Kell Brook is the most carefully managed fighter going who spent over a decade avoiding punchers. The first time he does he is gonna get knocked out or quit and that is exactly what he did.

 

[shaz619]

I called it on here for years Kell Brook is the most carefully managed fighter going who spent over a decade avoiding punchers. The first time he does he is gonna get knocked out or quit and that is exactly what he did.

I have never rated him due to his resume and being one of the finest matchroom model students but appreciated there was some ability there but one thing I didn't anticipate was that he turned out to be a bigger coward then I had initially imagined. But the fact that he held his title hostage and kept out of sight in sheffield, it speaks volumes of the kind of fighter and champion he was.

If you think about it Khan has been instrumental in his downfall, only took the GGG fight after he fought Canelo and they premeditated that towel as well, I didn't agree with you at the time but it looks to be the case and we finally saw his true colours vs Spence.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Lol, I feel bad for him. The loss has really hurt him and his career.

 

[Adil_94]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] surprised he didnt take the knee on the plane.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Lol, I feel bad for him. The loss has really hurt him and his career.

You shouldn't, he's like the ultimate bare bum out there. When he became world champion he was out of sight in sheffield and held his title hostage before defending it against these names:

No No Dan
Frankie Gavin
Bizier

Then he was forced into a mandatory position to face Spence, he kept on delaying it and tried his best to duck Errol then the IBF had enough of his shtick and forced him into a corner where he had no choice but to fight Spence and in his first real test was found out before quitting in front of 30K hometown fans.

Spence has just became champion and he's already calling out the best names in the division.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] come to think of it Roman Martinez is the perfect man for Gevonta as an opponent, he is slightly past his peak but remains a top 10 elite fighter in the 130lb division; if Gervonta can do a job on him better then Lomachenko and Salido did it would really elevate his reputation a fair amount. But is Martinez going to fight again? he hasn't fought since Lomachenko stopped him in June last year plus its probably unlikely for him to step in the ring with a fighter with such heavy hands , something which Floyd is going to have issues with in the future when it comes to matching his fighter with other big names

I agree. Roman would be a good next fight as he will test Davis. I think Floyd wants to publicise his name so he is well known as quickly as possible. He could in a couple of years headline Vegas as Floyd did. Will be very interesting to see how his career progresses from here.

Looks like our crystal ball prediction came true ! or TMT / Davis are PP lurkers

Davis is scheduled to fight Roman Martinez on the Mayweather / McFake under card !!! Great fight, so excited; it will be Davis's toughest test to date

 

[KingKhanWC]

Looks like our crystal ball prediction came true ! or TMT / Davis are PP lurkers

Davis is scheduled to fight Roman Martinez on the Mayweather / McFake under card !!! Great fight, so excited; it will be Davis's toughest test to date

Great news! I think he hasn't fought since losing to Lomachenko? Btw I will respond to your post about him later. A good test for Davis and well predicted bro! Roman will give this a good go and has the experience to make this a tough fight for Davis. Any predictions?

 

[shaz619]

Also [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Khan is not doing too well with regards to the break up so do you think they should cancel his fight which is booked for later in the year? Asif Vali has said months ago that they'd need to make sure his head is clear before he steps in the ring but am not sure, maybe he needs more time to get himself together? thing is you can look at it two ways, if they give him more time they risk Amir falling so low to the point of no recovery but Boxing can also be a great distraction and give you that much needed guidance/clarity/escape as it does for so many people but if he is not doing so well and fights regardless then something really bad could happen in the ring.

 

[shaz619]

Great news! I think he hasn't fought since losing to Lomachenko? Btw I will respond to your post about him later. A good test for Davis and well predicted bro! Roman will give this a good go and has the experience to make this a tough fight for Davis. Any predictions?

I think Davis will stop him but it's a matter of when? I will say within 6 rounds, if he can take him out within 4 or 5 it would be a huge statement. It took Lomachenko about 5 I believe

 

[KingKhanWC]

Also [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Khan is not doing too well with regards to the break up so do you think they should cancel his fight which is booked for later in the year? Asif Vali has said months ago that they'd need to make sure his head is clear before he steps in the ring but am not sure, maybe he needs more time to get himself together? thing is you can look at it two ways, if they give him more time they risk Amir falling so low to the point of no recovery but Boxing can also be a great distraction and give you that much needed guidance/clarity/escape as it does for so many people but if he is not doing so well and fights regardless then something really bad could happen in the ring.

Its a great point to raise. As you know boxing is as much in the head as it's in the body, a right frame of mind will improve your performance while a messed up mind can as you say potentially cause you serious harm as boxing is no joke esp at the level Khan will be fighting at. I have a feeling Asif Vali will be looking for an opponent who can hit hard, maybe not someone totally destructive but someone with some sort of knockout record behind him. He knows Khan needs to impressive a little in order for a title shot next year.

Personally I believe a happy boxer will be a focused boxer. Sure anger and frustration can also give you motivation but surely it must ruin some of our focus? I guess a good example is Tyson, who lost his way after Cus died but I suppose this was different in man ways.

If both settle up and move on quickly I think Khan can focus on his next fight, he's been out of the ring too long now and his hand has recovered well, so time to get some more action as he's not getting any younger. However I feel his ex will do everything in her power to ruin him or mess him about. Such as shame.

 

[shaz619]

Its a great point to raise. As you know boxing is as much in the head as it's in the body, a right frame of mind will improve your performance while a messed up mind can as you say potentially cause you serious harm as boxing is no joke esp at the level Khan will be fighting at. I have a feeling Asif Vali will be looking for an opponent who can hit hard, maybe not someone totally destructive but someone with some sort of knockout record behind him. He knows Khan needs to impressive a little in order for a title shot next year.

Personally I believe a happy boxer will be a focused boxer. Sure anger and frustration can also give you motivation but surely it must ruin some of our focus? I guess a good example is Tyson, who lost his way after Cus died but I suppose this was different in man ways.

If both settle up and move on quickly I think Khan can focus on his next fight, he's been out of the ring too long now and his hand has recovered well, so time to get some more action as he's not getting any younger. However I feel his ex will do everything in her power to ruin him or mess him about. Such as shame.

I know, it's hard to say; thing is Khan still has that name value, most likely his next opponent in 2017 is going to be a tune up. I think it will be someone who's not as notorious for their power and Khan will fight them, most likely will find himself on the canvas but if he can still get the win at the end it would be all that matters. Plus fighters would be encouraged by such an opponent when it comes to match making as strange as that sounds but modern boxing for you lol

You're right he needs to be active but am just concerned due to the recent events, nothing suggests the split is going to be smooth everything points to nasty.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I know, it's hard to say; thing is Khan still has that name value, most likely his next opponent in 2017 is going to be a tune up. I think it will be someone who's not as notorious for their power and Khan will fight them, most likely will find himself on the canvas but if he can still get the win at the end it would be all that matters. Plus fighters would be encouraged by such an opponent when it comes to match making as strange as that sounds but modern boxing for you lol

You're right he needs to be active but am just concerned due to the recent events, nothing suggests the split is going to be smooth everything points to nasty.

Any ideas who could be his tune up fight?

I've just seen his latest instagram post and he is there with the girl he was partying saying he wants to clarify she is nice/friend etc after apparently she has been receiving abuse. Two post downs is Faryal with her child.If he didnt have a child with her, it would be ok but I have a bad feeling she will use her against him which will ruin his focus in training. He should sort out the settlement asap before confirming a fight imo.

 

[ShadabFakhar]

Any ideas who could be his tune up fight?

I've just seen his latest instagram post and he is there with the girl he was partying saying he wants to clarify she is nice/friend etc after apparently she has been receiving abuse. Two post downs is Faryal with her child.If he didnt have a child with her, it would be ok but I have a bad feeling she will use her against him which will ruin his focus in training. He should sort out the settlement asap before confirming a fight imo.

As a neutral, I think Khan should call out Brook. Get that over his chest.

Khan's been away from boxing for over two years and with his personal saga I'd say he's come down to Brook's level of boxing. If he loses, should call it quits. This fight would sell itself, so he can have his pay day and walk away if it doesn't go his way.

 

[shaz619]

Any ideas who could be his tune up fight?

I've just seen his latest instagram post and he is there with the girl he was partying saying he wants to clarify she is nice/friend etc after apparently she has been receiving abuse. Two post downs is Faryal with her child.If he didnt have a child with her, it would be ok but I have a bad feeling she will use her against him which will ruin his focus in training. He should sort out the settlement asap before confirming a fight imo.

No clue at all but I believe it will be a fighter who campaigns at 140lb, I don't mind who he fights next as a warm up because the goal is not to elevate his profile in the ring but to see his mental state of mind, testing the new hand and getting rid of the ring rust then face Peterson in 2018 for the WBA regular world title.

What did Faryal say two posts down? I didn't manage to catch what she said. The way I see it, obviously Khan has been stressed out etc so he had a night out to blow off some steam with one of his mates and it has been blown out of proportion and all of a sudden everyone has turned into a mullah when they probably don't even do their stanjah properly. It also doesn't reflect well on our community when his mate is being abused as well, I get he's a muslim but when even the sheiks who are a lot more knowledgeable then us do not come to conclusive judgements who are the public to attack Amir or his mate; completely unnecessary plus many seem to be out of touch with regards to defining a modern muslim.

The media are also using this as an opportunity to paint this picture of us being incredibly intolerant and backwards when you read some of the comments around the web regarding this matter, a lot of the folk don't practice what they preach.