Corporal punishment for children at schools

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I was primarily commenting on quote in the article Markhor posted, not so much the OP. Even if we agree that laws against corporal punishment, such as they are, are routinely flouted, do you think a federal minister would go to the trouble of denying there's a problem at primary schools?

I have no idea, seems anyone is untouchable if they have the right connections, no matter what their crime.

 

[JackTR]

Seems the idea that beatings can be handed out by teachers is still acceptable in Pakistan. I think that's the major issue here above all else.

Its gone in the private and high quality schools.Just these public and low quality schools still allow it

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Its gone in the private and high quality schools.Just these public and low quality schools still allow it

So the rich folks kids are spared a beating on account of privilege, for everyone else a good thrashing is in order. Not only that, but it's classed as acceptable by the authorities presumably.

 

[hadi123]

Lahore minor succumbs to wounds after brutal beating by seminary teacher

LAHORE: A seven-year-old boy died on Tuesday three days after being brutally beaten by a seminary teacher in Lahore.

According to the minor's parents, Abdul Wahab had gone to a seminary in Shalimar area of Lahore, where his teacher had beaten him up with an iron rod breaking the minor's shoulder bone.

The boy was seeking treatment at Mayo treatment when he passed away, according to the police.

The body was handed over to the deceased's family after the postmortem. Police have also been registered a case over the incident.

Police said that the facilitator in the case, identified as Ghafoor, has been taken into custody while a police team has left for Azad Kashmir for the arrest of the prime suspect.

On January 22, a 10-year-old boy was allegedly beaten to death by a cleric in Karachi’s Bin Qasim area.

The cleric, identified as Qari Nizamuddin, had beaten the child to death with a stick at his seminary in Edu Goth area.

The boy, Muhammad Hussain, had to be rushed to the hospital, however, he succumbed to his wounds on the way.

Following the incident, the police had taken the suspect into custody.

Later, it was reported that the child’s parents had forgiven the cleric for the death of their son and did not register a case against him.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/202652-la...unds-after-brutal-beating-by-seminary-teacher

 

[Pakistanian]

Corporal punishment is a big problem in desi culture. Nobody should be allowed to hit a kid or an adult.

 

[ManFan]

There was an incident where one teacher literally broke a minor’s arm by hitting him so hard.

The child’s family showed up to hound the teacher at his house with guns and bad intentions.

Ultimately, the matter was resolved but it just shows the ineptitude of these “master sahibs”.

They believe that by hitting a child they are compensating for providing a below-par education. Every time a student does or says something against their will, they go on a power trip.

Pakistani schools have the weirdest rules.

Full sweater with shirt and tie in the
blazing heat, making sure you do not bite your nails, heck even bus drivers used to beat up students!

All it does is drive potential students away from pursuing an education and I can bear witness to the effects that “hitting to ensure discipline” causes.

 

[MenInG]

Problem here is that beating a child in the name of religion is a bigger issue

 

[MenInG]

[VIDEO] Police arrest madrassah teacher who was caught on video beating pupils

HYDERABAD: Police on Friday arrested a madrassah teacher who was caught torturing students in a video that went viral on social media.

SSP Hyderabad took notice of the viral video which captured the madrassah teacher, identified as Shabbir Ahmed s/o Ghulam Hussain, beating up students who had come to learn the Holy Quran in a mosque situated within limits of the Cantt Police Station.

In the video, the madrasshah teacher can be seen hitting children with a pipe and arguing when asked not to beat them up by a man who had come to pray at the mosque.

The madrasshah teacher is heard in the video arguing back and telling the man to continue praying. "No one will say anything even if I beat them to death," he is heard saying and then continuing to hit the children.

Further, the man who made the video questions a child whether he is being beaten up for not remembering his lesson to which he says, "I did not come to the madrassah for two days."


https://www.geo.tv/latest/221907-hy...-being-caught-hitting-students-in-viral-video

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[Cpt. Rishwat]

I always assumed it was accepted for maulvis to beat children in these madrasas. There seems to be a culture of thrashing kids in Pakistan that we might have had in the olden days in England before teachers were banned from hitting students.

 

[MenInG]

I always assumed it was accepted for maulvis to beat children in these madrasas. There seems to be a culture of thrashing kids in Pakistan that we might have had in the olden days in England before teachers were banned from hitting students.

I studied in a private school in Karachi - believe me this is nothing compared to the beatings we got in the old days

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I studied in a private school in Karachi - believe me this is nothing compared to the beatings we got in the old days

It is indicative of a medieval culture which still seems to hold strong in many parts of Pakistan. It would be interesting to know if this sort of teaching is linked more to the region or if this sort of religious instruction is common in other parts of the Islamic world such as Egypt or Malaysia.

 

[Mamoon]

If I close my eyes, I can still feel the pain of the cold, steel ruler on my palms and the notorious, yellow wooden ruler on my knuckles. I have also had my ear pulled and twisted, and a slap on the face every now and then was not out of the question either.

I imagine everyone who studied in a Pakistani schools until the late 90’s and early 2000’s has had to endure physical punishment. However, there has been a serious crackdown over the last few years and teachers no longer dare to beat students. At least not in private schools.

 

[MenInG]

The British started all this but whilst they moved on, we stuck with their methods. I cannot imagine anything more unislamic than hitting a child for not reciting Quraan right!

 

[Hitman]

I studied in a private school in Karachi - believe me this is nothing compared to the beatings we got in the old days

If I close my eyes, I can still feel the pain of the cold, steel ruler on my palms and the notorious, yellow wooden ruler on my knuckles. I have also had my ear pulled and twisted, and a slap on the face every now and then was not out of the question either.

I imagine everyone who studied in a Pakistani schools until the late 90’s and early 2000’s has had to endure physical punishment. However, there has been a serious crackdown over the last few years and teachers no longer dare to beat students. At least not in private schools.

Same was the case in India back during my days. Although teachers can no longer hit or punish kids in India anymore without facing consequences.

Any teacher who dares to lay a finger on his students need to be locked up in jail for a bare minimum for 2 years.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Shabir Ahmed s/o Ghulam Hussain by caste Ansari r/o Sarfaraz colony. Ghulam Hussain is pesh Imam in Sarhandi masjid and Shabir is Hafiz e Quran and teaches Quran pak in Sarhandi Masjid Arrested by SHO Cantt. Hyderabad.<br>.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sindhpolicedmc?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#sindhpolicedmc</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IGSindhnotice?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IGSindhnotice</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hydrabad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Hydrabad</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewsAlert?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NewsAlert</a> <a href="https://t.co/UIWJuJAvXz">pic.twitter.com/UIWJuJAvXz</a></p>— Sindh Police (@sindhpolicedmc) <a href="https://twitter.com/sindhpolicedmc/status/1073503355912232960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[DeadBall]

The British started all this but whilst they moved on, we stuck with their methods. I cannot imagine anything more unislamic than hitting a child for not reciting Quraan right!

Yeah, it's all because of the British.

 

[MenInG]

Yeah, it's all because of the British.

Well the system of punishment was introduced in top-end schools in Pakistan during the Raj. Of course parents used to and still do discipline their kids but this hitting with the cane is a British concept.

 

[DeadBall]

Well the system of punishment was introduced in top-end schools in Pakistan during the Raj. Of course parents used to and still do discipline their kids but this hitting with the cane is a British concept.

Bus bahaaney hai. There are many other better things that we didn't so enthusiastically adopt as corporal punishment. Angrez 70 saal sai zyaada pehle chale gaye thai, about time society takes responsibility for these actions in this day and age and stop blaming the current child abuse on the British.

 

[MenInG]

Bus bahaaney hai. There are many other better things that we didn't so enthusiastically adopt as corporal punishment. Angrez 70 saal sai zyaada pehle chale gaye thai, about time society takes responsibility for these actions in this day and age and stop blaming the current child abuse on the British.

Totally agree, but as you would have read above, this type of abuse is now history in private schools.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

I studied in a private school in Karachi - believe me this is nothing compared to the beatings we got in the old days

That makes it better lol. Violence is _never_ the answer. They used to make kids go up chimneys in the old days. Children neef to be saved from s bloke wuth a stick, he might just be having a bad day, the wife hadnt fulfilled her womanly duties the day before. Maybe he got a tax denand that day...

 

[KingKhanWC]

It's was only in 1998 the UK banned caning in all schools. In Islam this type of punishment for children was never allowed.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

The British started all this but whilst they moved on, we stuck with their methods. I cannot imagine anything more unislamic than hitting a child for not reciting Quraan right!

You're gonna fall foul of the No True Scotsman, in this case No True Islamic Molvi

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Instead of receiving education and knowledge from the schools and madrasahs in Pakistan, children are learning coercion, the techniques of inflicting violence. Those who aren’t able to inflict violence on others are developing passive aggressive personalities. Imagine getting beat up in your place of education every day, going back to your home just to get ‘disciplined’ by your parents, all the while being constantly reminded of how bleak your future is going to get if you don’t go back to the place where you are beaten every day. That’s the level physical as well as psychological abuse that ppl go through while growing up. I will always hate my school teachers for doing that to me (p.s. you aren’t even allowed to do that in Pakistan because that would make you a rude and disrespectful person).

 

[Devilsadvokat]

This respect for the 'elder' esp teacher is just too sinister.

 

[DeadBall]

Totally agree, but as you would have read above, this type of abuse is now history in private schools.

So only the privileged few aren't being abused anymore? I shall sleep soundly tonight.

There should be a uniform law which applies to all, rich or poor. I also went to a Pakistani private school in the UAE for an year due to some reasons and the worst teacher there was the Islamic studies teacher. These are psychopaths who who tend to carry out their activities under the umbrella of religion but so have priests, monks and pandits.

We need to also get rid of these faith based schools, madrassas etc which are basically filled with" Hafizay e Quran" with no formal training in education. They can recite the Quran by heart, which even a parrot can do, but have no idea what it actually means.

There must be a uniform law that protects ALL children from this kind of sadistic punishment.

 

[DeadBall]

Instead of receiving education and knowledge from the schools and madrasahs in Pakistan, children are learning coercion, the techniques of inflicting violence. Those who aren’t able to inflict violence on others are developing passive aggressive personalities. Imagine getting beat up in your place of education every day, going back to your home just to get ‘disciplined’ by your parents, all the while being constantly reminded of how bleak your future is going to get if you don’t go back to the place where you are beaten every day. That’s the level physical as well as psychological abuse that ppl go through while growing up. I will always hate my school teachers for doing that to me (p.s. you aren’t even allowed to do that in Pakistan because that would make you a rude and disrespectful person).

Great post. Also your username and avatar fit seamlessly into this discussion.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Great post. Also your username and avatar fit seamlessly into this discussion.

I have experienced this violence first hand in Pakistan.

 

[DeadBall]

I have experienced this violence first hand in Pakistan.

So have many of us here, in Pakistan or Pakistani based schools. There are many a thread on here regarding this issue but I cannot be bothered to look it up atm.

Also. I just realized your username is Angrez Pakistani and not Angry Pakistani. Both would have worked though regarding corporal punishment.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

So have many of us here, in Pakistan or Pakistani based schools. There are many a thread on here regarding this issue but I cannot be bothered to look it up atm.

Also. I just realized your username is Angrez Pakistani and not Angry Pakistani. Both would have worked though regarding corporal punishment.

I got the slipper, ruler at primary school, cane at secondary and the stick at nosque, only once or twice for each, not bad in ten years, I know no one asked.

 

[DeadBall]

I got the slipper, ruler at primary school, cane at secondary and the stick at nosque, only once or twice for each, not bad in ten years, I know no one asked.

Was it a steel ruler which was the rave at the time or just a normal wooden or God (sic) forbid wooden one? What about the dreaded pencil between the fingers of doom? Stop being so soft.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Was it a steel ruler which was the rave at the time or just a normal wooden or God (sic) forbid wooden one? What about the dreaded pencil between the fingers of doom? Stop being so soft.

The last sentence is indicative of the normalisation of this violence.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

Was it a steel ruler which was the rave at the time or just a normal wooden or God (sic) forbid wooden one? What about the dreaded pencil between the fingers of doom? Stop being so soft.

The worse times was for having pen dots on my hand, rhey werent done deliberately but i used to as a kid having to write for an hour leave marks on my hands, which was evidence for having a pen in my hand, the guy in charge was intern/substitute dude. He thought i done it on purpose, and smacked my hand enuff times with ruler, it was the injustice that bought tears to my eyes.

Years later a friend asked him if he remembers the beatings he gave out, his reply, "i didnt know what i was doing, i was only a teenager"

I guess i must have nine or ten.

 

[gazza619]

I hope this maulvi receives severe punishment. This has to stop!

 

[PakLFC]

These kids who took a beating will grow up and despise Islam. The so called teachers are to ignorant to realise this. The likes of Zaid Hamid will still find some way to defend him by playing the Zionist card. The police should give him some of his own medicine for a few days. I didn't enjoy going to the Masjid as a kid at all due to the bullying culture within by teachers and seniors. It is best to learn at your own pace when you're ready.

 

[JaDed]

Hopefully he believes in religion now and preaches it similarly!!!

 

[Azmi]

In Islam this type of punishment for children was never allowed.

You are sadly misinformed.

Please read the Ahadith here (link): No punishment for father even if he kills his child/grandchild

And also read (link) about this Saudi Preacher who raped his 5 years old daughter, tortured her and then killed her, but no Qasas was taken from him by Saudi Shariat Court.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

You are sadly misinformed

Understatement of the year, nay decade.

 

[MenInG]

You are sadly misinformed.

Please read the Ahadith here (link): No punishment for father even if he kills his child/grandchild

And also read (link) about this Saudi Preacher who raped his 5 years old daughter, tortured her and then killed her, but no Qasas was taken from him by Saudi Shariat Court.

you come up with some pathological examples when even you probably believe that this kind of thing would be unacceptable to Muslims? What is your point?

KKWC made a generic statement as am I, hitting children like this is abhorrent to all religions and also in Islam.

Absolutely sick of this Atheist brigade and friends jumping in each thread to put down Islam - wont allow it.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

Absolutely sick of this Atheist brigade and friends jumping in each thread to put down Islam - wont allow it.

Well don't say stuff like it is Unislamic to hit children. Its not true. You personally maybe more moral than the hadiths, you may not need hadiths to tell you how to conduct your life.

But dont say Islam allows or disallows without looking at scripture. Dont just make it up.

The thread was started by you and is about Islamic teacher beating the kids. Totally on point.

 

[MenInG]

Well don't say stuff like it is Unislamic to hit children. Its not true. You personally maybe more moral than the hadiths, you may not need hadiths to tell you how to conduct your life.

But dont say Islam allows or disallows without looking at scripture. Dont just make it up.

The thread was started by you and is about Islamic teacher beating the kids. Totally on point.

It's about a teacher beating a pupil.

And version of Islam and many others follow doesnt allow causing bodily harm to children or anyone for that matter

Keep your anti Islam agenda off this thread. Simple and polite warning

 

[Devilsadvokat]

And version of Islam and many others follow doesnt allow causing bodily harm to children or anyone for that matter

Allow me to say that this is the crux of the matter. What about the others that do?

I will say no more, but you of all people should understand passion.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Well don't say stuff like it is Unislamic to hit children. Its not true. You personally maybe more moral than the hadiths, you may not need hadiths to tell you how to conduct your life.

But dont say Islam allows or disallows without looking at scripture. Dont just make it up.

The thread was started by you and is about Islamic teacher beating the kids. Totally on point.

I asked the question earlier, if it is an Islamic injunction to beat kids, then is religion taught with similar punishment in other Islamic countries? I have always thought this thrashing with a stick or whip was a particularly Pakistani trait but could be wrong.

 

[ARK Rafay]

This used to be the norm in the 90s and early 2000s hitting with pipes and wooden sticks. I'm glad it has been almost stopped since then. But unfortunately, in some Madaras and few very old government schools, this still happens today.

 

[Markhor]

Instead of receiving education and knowledge from the schools and madrasahs in Pakistan, children are learning coercion, the techniques of inflicting violence. Those who aren’t able to inflict violence on others are developing passive aggressive personalities. Imagine getting beat up in your place of education every day, going back to your home just to get ‘disciplined’ by your parents, all the while being constantly reminded of how bleak your future is going to get if you don’t go back to the place where you are beaten every day. That’s the level physical as well as psychological abuse that ppl go through while growing up. I will always hate my school teachers for doing that to me (p.s. you aren’t even allowed to do that in Pakistan because that would make you a rude and disrespectful person).

That's a good point. Not only does it reveal the incompetence of a teacher that you have to resort to violence against your students, but it normalises the use of violence in the minds of these young children.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

The Chtistians have their own verse. Spare the rod. Spoil the child Its not just sn Islsmic thing.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Ppl don’t require religion to exert force and violence on others. Sure, ideology can play a huge role in such things, but ppl can move past these things by developing a consensus on such issues. Blaming religion, or making it a focal point in this discussion can be detrimental in the development of that consensus in a country that is deeply religious. It’s actually counterproductive because it puts ppl in boxes that they don’t necessarily belong.

 

[CricketDon]

Not a surprise. These dogs should be locked up. Same thing happens in UK ones as well. Funny thing is parents are fine with it because apparently it’s Islamic. Round up the dogs and parents and lock them both up and put the kids into care.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

Ppl don’t require religion to exert force and violence on others. Sure, ideology can play a huge role in such things, but ppl can move past these things by developing a consensus on such issues. Blaming religion, or making it a focal point in this discussion can be detrimental in the development of that consensus in a country that is deeply religious. It’s actually counterproductive because it puts ppl in boxes that they don’t necessarily belong.

Wise words I shall heed.

 

[Azmi]

Ppl don’t require religion to exert force and violence on others. Sure, ideology can play a huge role in such things, but ppl can move past these things by developing a consensus on such issues. Blaming religion, or making it a focal point in this discussion can be detrimental in the development of that consensus in a country that is deeply religious. It’s actually counterproductive because it puts ppl in boxes that they don’t necessarily belong.

Wise. Agreed.

Nevertheless, I fear that some Mullahs in Madaris and some religious parents would still stick to these religious orders and consider any such consensus against their religious duties.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Wise. Agreed.

Nevertheless, I fear that some Mullahs in Madaris and some religious parents would still stick to these religious orders and consider any such consensus against their religious duties.

It’s one thing to know that a maulvi is beating your child and it’s another thing to see a maulvi to beat your child in front of your eyes. You can argue on an abstract ideological concept but seeing something like that happening in front of your eyes, that too to your own child can be an earth shattering experience. With the media active in Pakistan, we can see the change happening.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I asked the question earlier, if it is an Islamic injunction to beat kids, then is religion taught with similar punishment in other Islamic countries? I have always thought this thrashing with a stick or whip was a particularly Pakistani trait but could be wrong.

Any new insights on this?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

you come up with some pathological examples when even you probably believe that this kind of thing would be unacceptable to Muslims? What is your point?

KKWC made a generic statement as am I, hitting children like this is abhorrent to all religions and also in Islam.

Absolutely sick of this Atheist brigade and friends jumping in each thread to put down Islam - wont allow it.

Agreed. I’m sick of all the atheists who try to act all high and mighty

 

[Devilsadvokat]

Agreed. I’m sick of all the atheists who try to act all high and mighty

High and mighty are those that think the Earth and all within it was made for them!! Like God made all the universe for the Children of Adam. Now _that_ is high and mighty.

 

[MenInG]

Discuss what is happening in Pakistan about beating children in Madrassahs but no need to discuss Islamic injunctions.

 

[saeedhk]

These sort of beatings are present in all madrassas in Pakistan.

After being arrested, this is what the mullah said: ‘ No child should be beaten like an animal’. He went on to imply that what he did was only light beating which is allowed.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

These sort of beatings are present in all madrassas in Pakistan.

After being arrested, this is what the mullah said: ‘ No child should be beaten like an animal’. He went on to imply that what he did was only light beating which is allowed.

Subjective reading of scripture, maybe.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

These sort of beatings are present in all madrassas in Pakistan.

After being arrested, this is what the mullah said: ‘ No child should be beaten like an animal’. He went on to imply that what he did was only light beating which is allowed.

This only reveals the level of ignorance in Pakistani society. I'm not only going to blame the mullah here, it wouldn't be tolerated if the public themselves weren't confused where to draw the line. Corporal punishment needs to be overhauled in all teaching environments and these madrasas need to be regulated. Providing free or cheap education shouldn't mean you are allowed to break the law.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Subjective reading of scripture, maybe.

I doubt it, most maulvis learn the scripture rote fashion, I would think you've studied the religion far more comprehensively than they have.

 

[Abdullah719]

WARNING: Some people may find the video in the tweet too upsetting to watch


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can somebody please help me identify this place and this bloody Maulvi <a href="https://twitter.com/pid_gov?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@pid_gov</a> <a href="https://t.co/1ZTMhTk4sd">pic.twitter.com/1ZTMhTk4sd</a></p>— Shehzad Roy (@ShehzadRoy) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShehzadRoy/status/1108281624284794880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Need to locate this one ASAP.

 

[Green Patriot]

How can they be so inhuman.
Its a child.

 

[Abdullah719]

[VIDEO] Abbottabad teacher suspended for beating up student

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Two teachers from an Abbottabad government school were arrested and sent to jail on Friday by a judicial magistrate after a video surfaced of them allegedly administering corporal punishment to a girl, police said.

After the video, which appeared to show the teachers from Government Primary School Karimpura kicking and dragging the uniform-clad girl by her hair, went viral, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Chief Minister Mahmood Khan took notice of the incident and ordered the suspension of the pair.

Subsequently, Abbottabad's deputy commissioner set up a three-member committee to probe the incident.

The chief minister's adviser, Ziaullah Bangash, confirmed that two teachers, including the head of the school had been suspended and that an explanation from the district education officer had been sought. "Corporal punishment of students will not be tolerated," Bangash said.

District Education Officer Samina Altaf Shah, while speaking to the media, said that she had also been tasked by Secretary Arshad Khan to look into the matter. She said that recommendations, including the transfer of the rest of the school staff, have been sent to the secretary and that "the process will be completed within a day".

She said she has also recommended that a focal person be appointed for the redressal of such issues in the future.

District Police Officer Abbas Majeed Khan Marwat also took notice of the incident and ordered a police investigation into the matter, following which District Superintendent of Police Yaseen Khan Janjua formed a police probe team.

A case was registered at the Cantt police station by Station House Officer Tahir Saleem on the complaint of the girl's father under Section 34 (punishment for corporal punishment) and 37 (punishment for violence) of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Child Protection and Welfare Act. Soon after, the two teachers were arrested.

According to the First Information Report (FIR), a copy of which is available with DawnNewsTV, the victim is a student of first grade. Her father stated in the FIR that for the past 20 days, the girl had been reluctant to enter the school.

On the day of the incident, the father said, his daughter was again resisting entering the school premises when a teacher emerged, grabbed the girl by her hand and forced her inside. The gate was then shut behind them, he said.

The girl's elder sister heard her screams from the inside and tried to go in but was not allowed, the father added.

It is pertinent to mention here that corporal punishment is a penal offence in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa under the Child Protection and Welfare Act 2010.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1477152/t...ring-corporal-punishment-at-abbottabad-school

 

[gazza619]

OMG!

What about the thousands who go unpunished because there is no one to make a video.

I think this violence is like a circle. I am certain that this teacher would have been a victim of this as a child and even as an adult.

 

[KingKhanWC]

OMG!

What about the thousands who go unpunished because there is no one to make a video.

I think this violence is like a circle. I am certain that this teacher would have been a victim of this as a child and even as an adult.

Maybe she also suffered similar assualts when in school. Hitting children in the sub continent has been pretty normal but hopefully such incidents being highlighted will change this in the future.

 

[PakLFC]

Punishing one teacher for such behaviour is better then nothing. At least other teachers will now think many times before acting in such a manner. With the evidence being so clear they should be sacked not suspended. No matter what justification is given by them it can never be deemed as being acceptable. This is also one reason that school attendance in Pak is so low when teachers are cruel and violent. A student should never fear their teachers beating them up like this.

 

[Madplayer]

I think sometimes light chitrol is necessary but this is simply child abuse.

 

[sweep_shot]

Khyber Police Arrest School Teacher Over Murder Case

Police in Khyber tribal district have arrested a teacher of a private school in the murder case of a seventh grader in Jamrud.

Addressing a press conference at Jamrud Press Club on Sunday, DPO Mohammad Hussain said that the teacher, Roidad, was in their custody along with some other suspects. He said that he confessed to the crime during initial interrogations.

The body of the 13-year-old student was found at a deserted place near Teddy Bazaar in Jamrud a day after he went missing from his home on Monday evening.

“Roidad was a strong suspect from day one of his arrest and he was under strict monitoring of the investigating team. He eventually conceded to committing the crime,” said the DPO. He added that they were waiting for the final postmortem report regarding any sexual assault.

The suspect, he said, told the investigators that he was not happy with Kashif for having friendship with some other people, whom he believed were not of good character.

The official said that police also recovered a 30-bore pistol, an empty bullet casing and the motorbike used by the alleged killer in the crime. He said that Kashif’s mobile phone, which the suspect had tried to burn down to destroy data, was also seized by police.

He thanked the local judiciary for allowing the investigation team to exhume the student’s body after three days of burial that was later sent to Khyber Medical College for postmortem.

Link: https://www.dawn.com/news/1510708/khyber-police-arrest-schoolteacher-in-student-murder-case.

 

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The Islamabad High Court on Thursday suspended till further notice a section of the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC) that allows for the use of corporal punishment by parents, guardians and teachers "in good faith for the benefit".

A petition in the IHC, submitted by singer and rights activist Shehzad Roy, called for a ban on use of violence as a means to discipline children in school.

In his petition, Roy argued that Section 89 of the PPC allows for use of violence and force against children.

"Last year, a child passed away because of the use of corporal punishment in a school in Lahore," Roy's lawyer told the court while adding that the matter of abolishing the use of corporal punishment was of public interest.

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The lawyer, while explaining the reason for Roy's interest in the matter, said that the singer-turned-activist has established an organisation for educational reforms.

"The parliament also passed some bill on the matter as well," IHC Chief Justice Athar Minallah, who was hearing the case, recalled.

"We want that the use of corporal punishment is banned while the parliament goes about making laws on the matter," the lawyer responded while adding that corporal punishment has extremely adverse effects on children's mental and physical health.

Hearing this, Justice Minallah suspended section 89 of the Pakistan Penal Code which says: "Nothing which is done in good faith for the benefit of a person under twelve years of age [...] by or by consent of the guardian or other person having lawful charge of that person, is an offence by reason of any harm which it may cause."

The court said that the interior ministry should safeguard the rights of children, while also asking for a reply on the matter from the federal government by March 5.

Speaking to the media outside Islamabad High Court, Roy said: "When a child is born, parents hit him, when he goes to school, teachers hit him, when he grows older and goes out in the society, police hits him to make him a better person. Contrarily, research shows that the use of violence only increases violence."

https://www.dawn.com/news/1534226/ihc-bans-corporal-punishment-for-children-under-the-age-of-12

 

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