Could the Zakir Naik red carpet in Pakistan jeopardize the Champions Trophy for Pakistan?

[Major]

An indian fugitive has been given a red carpet entry in Pakistan, while at the same time we are hoping for India to come to the champions trophy.

Would this be the final nail to the coffin?

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Dont think so!

a well known Muslim scholar visiting any country shouldnt be considered as a threat.

 

[Mohraheem]

Keep politics away from Cricket

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Keep politics away from Cricket

India also needs to understand this thing.

 

[Devadwal]

Not surprised at all. Pakistan is hub for Anti india Non State actors.

But this is not only reasons why india most likely not going to be Pakistan for champion Trophy .

But even there was 5% chances then its becomes zero.

 

[Major]

I actually have an issue with this and would side with India.

He is a fugitive and any country would have an issue if there fugitive was beig given red carpet entries. A dumb move by Pakistan. If they wanted to invite this Indian fugitive maybe should had done so after the champions trophy.

 

[The_KING]

Zakir Naik is one of the most prominant Muslim speakers of the last 25 years. It is about time Pakistan invited him.

As for India, who the hell cares if they come or not? And besides, Zakir Naik did nothing wrong. It was because of the anti Muslim Modi government that he had to do hijrah. Calling him a fugitive like he is some criminal lol.

 

[deltexas]

Zakir Naik is one of the most prominant Muslim speakers of the last 25 years. It is about time Pakistan invited him.

As for India, who the hell cares if they come or not? And besides, Zakir Naik did nothing wrong. It was because of the anti Muslim Modi government that he had to do hijrah. Calling him a fugitive like he is some criminal lol.

He is a fugitive wantes for multiple crimes, a hate monger, a misogynist to the core. Naik's Peace TV's channel is banned in India, Bangladesh, Canada, Sri Lanka, and the United Kingdom..
Ind team visiting Pak was very slim even before Naiks visit. But now it will be zero. Pcb and pak should now stop asking ind to visit pak and proceed with the hybrid model. Atleast get the tournament dates venues schedules finalized. They should stop hoodwinking the pak public.

 

[Major]

Zakir Naik is one of the most prominant Muslim speakers of the last 25 years. It is about time Pakistan invited him.

As for India, who the hell cares if they come or not? And besides, Zakir Naik did nothing wrong. It was because of the anti Muslim Modi government that he had to do hijrah. Calling him a fugitive like he is some criminal lol.

he is a fugitive. Modi is the pm of India not Bangladesh and even Bangladesh banned Naik.

Who the hell cares? everyone in PCB does.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Pakistan and PCB are weird ones. Do Anti India activities, invite fugitives, call us Dushman Mulk and then expect us to be in Pakistan.
I really hope Modi government does not Allowt the cricket team to be in Pakistan and boycott Champions Trophy. Pakistan and ICC can go ahead without India.

 

[Vikram1989]

Till now definitely some kind of back channel talks happened i guess as there was no outrageous calls from either side atleast from officials. There were a lot of terror activities happening in kashmir after a long time and now this. I think it's establishment way of saying don't come.

 

[Red-Indian]

An indian fugitive has been given a red carpet entry in Pakistan, while at the same time we are hoping for India to come to the champions trophy.

Would this be the final nail to the coffin?

I get allowing the him into your country. After all, he doesn't have an Interpol notice and there's no evidence of terrorist activities and such.

But your Prime minister meeting with him and letting it be photographed?

I've been more optimistic than others about the possibility of India traveling to Pakistan but I have to agree this is one of the final nails in the coffin.

 

[Vikram1989]

I get allowing the buffoon into your country. After all, he doesn't have an Interpol notice and there's no evidence of terrorist activities and such.

If a terrorist says he is inspired by zakir,then what else u need.He says suicide attacks are fine as a last resort and made controversial comments on jews

Televangelist accused of inspiring Dhaka attack denies condoning violence

A controversial Indian Islamic televangelist, alleged by Bangladesh to have incited a terrorist involved in the Dhaka cafe attack, denies condoning jihad.

www.abc.net.au

I will have issue with any religious bigot inspiring an attack .

 

[Red-Indian]

If a terrorist says he is inspired by zakir,then what else u need.He says suicide attacks are fine as a last resort and made controversial comments on jews

Televangelist accused of inspiring Dhaka attack denies condoning violence

A controversial Indian Islamic televangelist, alleged by Bangladesh to have incited a terrorist involved in the Dhaka cafe attack, denies condoning jihad.

www.abc.net.au

I will have issue with any religious bigot inspiring an attack .

Nah...he's a nincompoop but I wouldn't classify it as terrorist activity. Just low level provocative religious preachers who don't care about the consequences of somethings they say.

The fact that we've not been able procure an Interpol notice against him when we've managed so many others shows there's no solid evidence of actual terrorist activities.

 

[Vikram1989]

The fact that we've not been able procure an Interpol notice against him when we've managed so many others shows there's no solid evidence of actual terrorist activities.

I think govt may have not pursued rigorously due to fear of Arab pushback .its almost like we don't want you here but settle anywhere for obvious reasons.In india he was charged with money laundering, so it's sufficient to raise a notice but they don't have stomach to fight I think

 

[Bhaijaan]

I actually have an issue with this and would side with India.

He is a fugitive and any country would have an issue if there fugitive was beig given red carpet entries. A dumb move by Pakistan. If they wanted to invite this Indian fugitive maybe should had done so after the champions trophy.

My question to Pakistanis is that forget about Bharat or Champions Trophy even, but in general what do you aim to achieve from this?

You are a country which is trying to stand on its feet, trying to grow business, exports, create jobs, improve education etc. In all of that, what part does Zakir Naik romance play.

It’s a step backward in my opinion.

And for sure it will have some impact on the relations between our countries. Pakistan establishment continue to burn the bridges.

 

[Bhaijaan]

He is a fugitive wantes for multiple crimes, a hate monger, a misogynist to the core. Naik's Peace TV's channel is banned in India, Bangladesh, Canada, Sri Lanka, and the United Kingdom..
Ind team visiting Pak was very slim even before Naiks visit. But now it will be zero. Pcb and pak should now stop asking ind to visit pak and proceed with the hybrid model. Atleast get the tournament dates venues schedules finalized. They should stop hoodwinking the pak public.

BCCI is a private entity and does whatever is best in their interest. When they went in Pakistan thrice in a span of 4-5 years in mid 2000s it’s not that the relationships were any better then.

If they really took decisions in the interest of nation they wouldn’t have invited Bangladesh when hindus are being butchered by Islamists over there.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Zakir Naik outside of Bharat is no problem for us @Major
Within Bharat, the issue with him was that he is obsessed with proving other religions as false religions which posed a threat to the communal harmony and to the demography of our country in the long run as Hinduism does not generally compete with other religions for conversions. It’s not just Islam but we have or will have at some point similar issues with Christianity as well. A lot of missionaries here pose same threat.


Outside of Bharat, he’s free to go anywhere and do as many conversions as he likes. We do not care if the whole world is inspired by him to convert to Islam. Good for him.

If Pakistanis believe indulging with him at that grand scale is in their interests long term, good luck to you all.

He’s not a total lost cause. He’s obviously a very well read person and he cannot any point in his life use his knowledge to bring a positive change in the world if he wishes to. I personally lose my interest in him when after all the information he shares he becomes a salesman for Islam.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

An indian fugitive has been given a red carpet entry in Pakistan, while at the same time we are hoping for India to come to the champions trophy.

Would this be the final nail to the coffin?

India can't raise the issue of extradition of this fugitive with Malaysia, doesn't object to him travelling to many of their "friends" abroad but will throw a tantrum and stop playing cricket with Pakistan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Zakir Naik outside of Bharat is no problem for us @Major
Within Bharat, the issue with him was that he is obsessed with proving other religions as false religions which posed a threat to the communal harmony and to the demography of our country in the long run as Hinduism does not generally compete with other religions for conversions. It’s not just Islam but we have or will have at some point similar issues with Christianity as well. A lot of missionaries here pose same threat.


Outside of Bharat, he’s free to go anywhere and do as many conversions as he likes. We do not care if the whole world is inspired by him to convert to Islam. Good for him.

If Pakistanis believe indulging with him at that grand scale is in their interests long term, good luck to you all.

He’s not a total lost cause. He’s obviously a very well read person and he cannot any point in his life use his knowledge to bring a positive change in the world if he wishes to. I personally lose my interest in him when after all the information he shares he becomes a salesman for Islam.

They shouldn't pose any threat if you have confidence in your own religion. If anything this should give you the opportunity to debate and debunk this scholar of Islam and win back reverts to Hinduism.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Not an issue.

They haven't extradited Hafiz Saeed and we should be concerned about Zakir Naik? Lol

Not a good enough excuse.

Real issue would be that Rawalpindi is just a shi* ground to play an ICC event. That's a better excuse than Zakir Naik

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Zakir is a so called fugitive, yet the world's biggest criminal Netanyahu is a Hindutwa poster boy. Totaly hypocrisy.

I say get lost Bcci, keep team India at home

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Not an issue.

They haven't extradited Hafiz Saeed and we should be concerned about Zakir Naik? Lol

Not a good enough excuse.

Real issue would be that Rawalpindi is just a shi* ground to play an ICC event. That's a better excuse than Zakir Naik

A bigger issue is Pakistan is a shi* team that is getting schooled by BD these days. Not even sure it's worth the politics for India to bother turning up.

 

[Bhaijaan]

They shouldn't pose any threat if you have confidence in your own religion. If anything this should give you the opportunity to debate and debunk this scholar of Islam and win back reverts to Hinduism.

We are not interested in converting any Muslims to Hinduism. Whoever is a Muslim, good for you, we wish you well and we do not wish to disrespect your religion in any way.

We have a symbolic difference of opinion with the nature of Zakir Naik’s debates. We do not want to prove ourselves the best religion neither we want to call any other religion lesser than ours. To indulge in such debates means going against the very foundations and nature of our religion and culture.

Zakir Naik is free to say or do whatever outside our country.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

We are not interested in converting any Muslims to Hinduism. Whoever is a Muslim, good for you, we wish you well and we do not wish to disrespect your religion in any way.

We have a symbolic difference of opinion with the nature of Zakir Naik’s debates. We do not want to prove ourselves the best religion neither we want to call any other religion lesser than ours. To indulge in such debates means going against the very foundations and nature of our religion and culture.

Zakir Naik is free to say or do whatever outside our country.

In that case you should have no issue with Zakir Naik preaching in India since the difference of opinion is only symbolic and you feel he is not worth debating.

 

[Bhaijaan]

In that case you should have no issue with Zakir Naik preaching in India since the difference of opinion is only symbolic and you feel he is not worth debating.

I don’t think we are ready for it until the day we decide it’s time Hindus also open get serious about converting people to Hinduism and have a proper set up, machinery and funding in place to combat the likes of Zakir Naik and Christian missionaries.

Until then it’s not fair to Hindus as it has been for decades earlier.

Again, it’s not just him but Christian missionaries also are a problem in my opinion who are taking advantage of our laid back approach to conversion politics.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I don’t think we are ready for it until the day we decide it’s time Hindus also open get serious about converting people to Hinduism and have a proper set up, machinery and funding in place to combat the likes of Zakir Naik and Christian missionaries.

Until then it’s not fair to Hindus as it has been for decades earlier.

Again, it’s not just him but Christian missionaries also are a problem in my opinion who are taking advantage of our laid back approach to conversion politics.

My understanding was that Hinduism is seen as an all encompassing religion from creation to nirvana. So from that perspective what you are saying would be like Walmart worrying about a corner store.

 

[BouncerGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1841727383180869655

 

[Bhaijaan]

My understanding was that Hinduism is seen as an all encompassing religion from creation to nirvana. So from that perspective what you are saying would be like Walmart worrying about a corner store.

Hindus have to be clear about their future. If demographic changes are a matter of concern for them then they have to do something about conversion politics played by Muslims and Christians and it is a serious business. For centuries we have had a defensive approach to this rather than an attacking approach. It does not work. No matter how well we defend, the Abrahamic religions relentless efforts will eventually win.

It’s only a level playing field when Hinduism adopts an aggressive stance and they go out there in full force to influence, manipulate, convert non hindus at any cost.

Whether they are even interested to do it is another matter and until they’re not interested to go down that route, people like Zakir Naik and a Christian missionaries must not be allowed to operate freely in our country.

 

[Rajdeep]

Awful guy

I mean Pakistan giving him red carpet and Brit Pakistani's supporting him is already a giveaway but he turned out to be worse.

He is simply an extremist hiding under the garb of Clerics like Anjem Choudhary. He will be in Jailed moment he steps in India just like how Anjem is locked up in UK. Only shinning lights like Pakistan will give him red carpet when 5 other countries, including BD/US/UK all banned him.

Anyway, this will not have any impact on Champions trophy. Whether Indian cricket team travels to Pak or not, only time will tell but this hatemongers visit has no impact. It only reinforces India's stance of Pakistan harbouring terrorists.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Awful guy

I mean Pakistan giving him red carpet and Brit Pakistani's supporting him is already a giveaway but he turned out to be worse.

He is simply an extremist hiding under the garb of Clerics like Anjem Choudhary. He will be in Jailed moment he steps in India just like how Anjem is locked up in UK. Only shinning lights like Pakistan will give him red carpet when 5 other countries, including BD/US/UK all banned him.

Anyway, this will not have any impact on Champions trophy. Whether Indian cricket team travels to Pak or not, only time will tell but this hatemongers visit has no impact. It only reinforces India's stance of Pakistan harbouring terrorists.

You've posted a tweet from a self confessed Hindu activist about some nothing incident and are using that to link with Anjem Choudhery. If you want to make a case for him being a "terrorist" surely you can do better than that?

 

[Local.Dada]

You've posted a tweet from a self confessed Hindu activist about some nothing incident and are using that to link with Anjem Choudhery. If you want to make a case for him being a "terrorist" surely you can do better than that?

Is Zakir banned from UK for being too much of a humanitarian?

Since reading or researching is forbidden, let me help you, the below ban was in 2010 when Modi/ BJP/Rishi Sunak etc etc were no where in the picture and the article is from BBC (the news paper not something else).

Indian preacher Zakir Naik is banned from UK - BBC News

An Indian preacher has been banned from entering the UK for his "unacceptable behaviour", the home secretary says.

www.bbc.com

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Is Zakir banned from UK for being too much of a humanitarian?

Since reading or researching is forbidden, let me help you, the below ban was in 2010 when Modi/ BJP/Rishi Sunak etc etc were no where in the picture and the article is from BBC (the news paper not something else).

Indian preacher Zakir Naik is banned from UK - BBC News

An Indian preacher has been banned from entering the UK for his "unacceptable behaviour", the home secretary says.

www.bbc.com

That article doesn't give any reason for the ban let alone any link to terrorism (which is the charge I was contesting). I'm sure it can't be that difficult to find if that's what he's guilty of.

 

[Rajdeep]

You've posted a tweet from a self confessed Hindu activist about some nothing incident and are using that to link with Anjem Choudhery. If you want to make a case for him being a "terrorist" surely you can do better than that?

UK along with 5 other countries banned him. Why?

Normally you become Brit in most of the time...not sure why you are ignoring in this case.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Preachers like Zakir Naik are a dime a dozen in Pakistan. He will not be saying anything new there that the already existing scholars of Pakistan have not said so far.

The only thing is, he needs to be careful with his words. One slip of the mouth and there will be fatwas against him asking for his head.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

UK along with 5 other countries banned him. Why?

Normally you become Brit in most of the time...not sure why you are ignoring in this case.

You are the one who is describing him as a terrorist. So why are you asking me for the reasons why he was banned? This is what I was asking you!

 

[Local.Dada]

That article doesn't give any reason for the ban let alone any link to terrorism (which is the charge I was contesting). I'm sure it can't be that difficult to find if that's what he's guilty of.

My bigger takeaway is, you clicked and read. All good. Anyway if you feel Zakir Naik is not a terrorist feel free to let kids in your family listen to his lectures. Not my problem. He is not someone I want around lurking in my country. glad he has been banned. That’s my take so your defending him with “bird lawyer” credentials will not change anything.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I actually have an issue with this and would side with India.

He is a fugitive and any country would have an issue if there fugitive was beig given red carpet entries. A dumb move by Pakistan. If they wanted to invite this Indian fugitive maybe should had done so after the champions trophy.

Have you emailed Zardari ?

Unless there is an extradition treaty between nations , no obligation to deport or handover anyone .

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

My bigger takeaway is, you clicked and read. All good. Anyway if you feel Zakir Naik is not a terrorist feel free to let kids in your family listen to his lectures. Not my problem. He is not someone I want around lurking in my country. glad he has been banned. That’s my take so your defending him with “bird lawyer” credentials will not change anything.

Of course you don't want him lurking around your country, but then you are happy to have rabble rousing hindutvas like Yogi Adityanath whipping up ethnic tensions on behalf of the hindutvas, so I guess it's just a matter of perspective. You are not the only one who can cast aspersions in this regard.

 

[Local.Dada]

Of course you don't want him lurking around your country, but then you are happy to have rabble rousing hindutvas like Yogi Adityanath whipping up ethnic tensions on behalf of the hindutvas, so I guess it's just a matter of perspective. You are not the only one who can cast aspersions in this regard.

Dumb analogy. Yogi is a politician. Zakir Naik comparison is with a fellow religious preachers from other religions. Maulana Rehman or whatever his name is can be used as a better equivalence. If you think that Maulana is a better administrator and has more political acumen than Yogi, that’s your perspective lol

 

[deltexas]

That article doesn't give any reason for the ban let alone any link to terrorism (which is the charge I was contesting). I'm sure it can't be that difficult to find if that's what he's guilty of.

Its all there in the article . The gist of it is : Theresa May said that visiting the UK was "a privilege, not a right".
"Coming to the UK is a privilege, not a right and I am not willing to allow those who might not be conducive to the public good to enter the UK.
"Exclusion powers are very serious and no decision is taken lightly or as a method of stopping open debate on issues."

Thats pretty conclusive I would say

 

[deltexas]

My bigger takeaway is, you clicked and read. All good. Anyway if you feel Zakir Naik is not a terrorist feel free to let kids in your family listen to his lectures. Not my problem. He is not someone I want around lurking in my country. glad he has been banned. That’s my take so your defending him with “bird lawyer” credentials will not change anything.

And before posters here come saying Islamaphobia etc , my view would stay the same if this was a Christian pastor or a Hindu baba spewing similar nonsense. This is dangerous bcos even though he personally is not killing anyone, he is indoctrinating millions of mouldable kids minds with these dangerous ideas

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Dumb analogy. Yogi is a politician. Zakir Naik comparison is with a fellow religious preachers from other religions. Maulana Rehman or whatever his name is can be used as a better equivalence. If you think that Maulana is a better administrator and has more political acumen than Yogi, that’s your perspective lol

That makes it even worse. A politician holds a lot more responsibility than a preacher or some pandit. Keep digging bigger holes for yourself.

 

[Local.Dada]

That makes it even worse. A politician holds a lot more responsibility than a preacher or some pandit. Keep digging bigger holes for yourself.

We are happy with Yogi. He has done a lot of good work for his state. Take it up with Maulana from Pak or those non-English and bearded corporators who seem to be winning in some pockets of UK. Not sure who you vote for though. You are focusing in the wrong place

 

[JaDed]

Honestly it doesn’t matter, if he can show the righteous way to Pakistani Establishment might as well use him, I understand Pakistanis think morally India is worse than them but i would like to argue the opposite and maybe an Indian Muslim can help them find the right path.

 

[Local.Dada]

Honestly it doesn’t matter, if he can show the righteous way to Pakistani Establishment might as well use him, I understand Pakistanis think morally India is worse than them but i would like to argue the opposite and maybe an Indian Muslim can help them find the right path.

Zakir Naik type people really have 0 impact on Pak Muslims because other than the novelty he is Indian there is nothing new he offers. Pak probably has 1000s of such scholars. Won’t be hard to find 1-2 on PP.

On the flip side, every fugitive be it Dawood type Mafia dons or designated terrorists or “religious scholars” like Naik once they are wanted in India end up in Pakistan. While it does nothing for their or Pakistan stature or reputation as it seems very natural, unfortunately it might give a bad reflection of the Indian Muslim

 

[Rajdeep]

Zakir Naik or no Zakir Naik...no one can save the phainta Indian cricket team to serve Pakistan in upcoming Champions trophy. Now we are talking..eh.

I just hope its in Pakistan so that I can enjoy the beat down even more. Imagine Zakir Naik in stadium watching the game and Pak trundlers serving short pitch bowling to Rohit Sharma in flat Lahore pitch. Some sight that will be

 

[JaDed]

Zakir Naik type people really have 0 impact on Pak Muslims because other than the novelty he is Indian there is nothing new he offers. Pak probably has 1000s of such scholars. Won’t be hard to find 1-2 on PP.

On the flip side, every fugitive be it Dawood type Mafia dons or designated terrorists or “religious scholars” like Naik once they are wanted in India end up in Pakistan. While it does nothing for their or Pakistan stature or reputation as it seems very natural, unfortunately it might give a bad reflection of the Indian Muslim. I mean how come every criminal or wanted Indian Muslim ends up in Pak. Obviously not everyone is mature to look at is subjectively.

I’m friends with Indian Muslims that are followers of Zakir Naik, there is a ton of difference, they are well articulated and educated with religion as way of life yes but also education.

I don’t like Zakir Naik but that is as a Dharmic believer but I think my friends have benefited so yeah Pakistan doesn’t even have one scholar equivalent to him that can be that way.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

We are happy with Yogi. He has done a lot of good work for his state. Take it up with Maulana from Pak or those non-English and bearded corporators who seem to be winning in some pockets of UK. Not sure who you vote for though. You are focusing in the wrong place

Of course you are happy with Yogi, he spouts the minority baiting rabble rousing you love. I am just pointing out the irony of you of all people having a go at Zakir Naik for being religious nut.

 

[Local.Dada]

Of course you are happy with Yogi, he spouts the minority baiting rabble rousing you love. I am just pointing out the irony of you of all people having a go at Zakir Naik for being religious nut.

And of course you are concerned more with Yogi Adityanath a name you probably can’t even pronounce or point on a map the state he is chief minister of . rather than focusing on the mullah corporator next door you are spewing useless arguments defending a fugitive banned in multiple countries including your own (Uk to be specific)

Brighton and Hove City Council elects first Muslim mayor - BBC News

Brighton and Hove councillors unanimously elect Mohammed Asaduzzaman to be mayor.

www.bbc.com

 

[Major]

Have you emailed Zardari ?

Unless there is an extradition treaty between nations , no obligation to deport or handover anyone .

do you have reading issues?

Where did i said they need to extradite?

There was no need to invite a fugitive especially when you want India to tour you for a tournament. After the tournament ends, might aswell make Dawood Ibrahim the PM, doesnt matter.

 

[Major]

They shouldn't pose any threat if you have confidence in your own religion. If anything this should give you the opportunity to debate and debunk this scholar of Islam and win back reverts to Hinduism.

to be fair, most of conversion towards Islam is not being done by the likes of Naik, but they are taking place in places like Ajmer Sharif and Nizamuddin at Delhi. They are operating, so the issue is not conversion that Pakistani people might think.

Issue is, when people like Naik debate in my faith is true ur is false, that to in a secular country.

 

[KingKhanWC]

do you have reading issues?

Where did i said they need to extradite?

There was no need to invite a fugitive especially when you want India to tour you for a tournament. After the tournament ends, might aswell make Dawood Ibrahim the PM, doesnt matter.

lol only you & the pcb are still in cuckoo land desperate & thinking India will tour any time soon . Pak could detain him , bend over to India & they still won’t tour .

I agree he shouldn’t be invited but for different reasons

This is a PR move by sharif & zardari to help their their crooked image . Choor using a famous Muslim to look like angels , hillarous

 

[DeadlyVenom]

do you have reading issues?

Where did i said they need to extradite?

There was no need to invite a fugitive especially when you want India to tour you for a tournament. After the tournament ends, might aswell make Dawood Ibrahim the PM, doesnt matter.

He has travelled via Malaysia where he has permanent residencene status and travels the world freely.

India has not asked Qatar, Saudi or Malaysia to return him. Why is Pakistan being singled out here?

If India can't control their own citizens or have the guts to ask Malaysia to extradite him then that's on them not us.

 

[Major]

He has travelled via Malaysia where he has permanent residencene status and travels the world freely.

India has not asked Qatar, Saudi or Malaysia to return him. Why is Pakistan being singled out here?

If India can't control their own citizens or have the guts to ask Malaysia to extradite him then that's on them not us.

The PM gets elected on the basis of insulting Pakistan in India.

basically if India does go to Pakistan, even after this Zakir Naik tour, that will once again show India bending over to Pakistan while we treat their fugitives with royalty.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India also needs to understand this thing.

Pakistan needed to understand this before boycotting Asia Cup 1990, two subsequent tours and Hero Cup 1993.

 

[Suleiman]

you are the real fugitive.

 

[sweep_shot]

Don't think India would come to Pakistan whether Zakir Naik comes or not.

In other words, CT shouldn't be impacted by this.

 

[offstump]

Modi Ji was banned from entering the U.S. for nearly a decade yet Indians were still flocking en masse for their green cards. Yes, there is no comparison between the U.S. and Pakistan, but there is the contradiction when it comes to principle. India will do what’s convenient for them to score political points. Even if Pakistan arrests Zakir Naik, they’ll make a fuss about Zainab Abbas or something and demand her extradition due to some random FIR. The list goes on and on.

 

[offstump]

Pakistan needed to understand this before boycotting Asia Cup 1990, two subsequent tours and Hero Cup 1993.

Since then Pakistan has toured India multiple times including most recently for the ICC World Cup. India effectively boycotted the Asia cup by forcing it out of Pakistan and will likely kill the champions trophy as well.

 

[Devadwal]

Since then Pakistan has toured India multiple times including most recently for the ICC World Cup. India effectively boycotted the Asia cup by forcing it out of Pakistan and will likely kill the champions trophy as well.

India tour pakistan after Kargil war in 2004 for full series ( 3,test ,5 Odi) and after tour in 2006-7 but what we got Mumbai attack in 2008.

When india - Pakistan were Played a series in 2012 after that we got uri , Pathankot etc .

Until pakistan Stop sending terrorist no matter who is in power ( Congress/ BJP) ,india is not going to tour for Pakistan .

If pakistan have any concern about india than they can chose to not come for 2026 Wt20 .

 

[cricketjoshila]

Since then Pakistan has toured India multiple times including most recently for the ICC World Cup. India effectively boycotted the Asia cup by forcing it out of Pakistan and will likely kill the champions trophy as well.

Because India has become the financial hub of cricket and pakistan needs its ICC revenue share to run itself.

 

[Bhaijaan]

to be fair, most of conversion towards Islam is not being done by the likes of Naik, but they are taking place in places like Ajmer Sharif and Nizamuddin at Delhi. They are operating, so the issue is not conversion that Pakistani people might think.

Issue is, when people like Naik debate in my faith is true ur is false, that to in a secular country.

You really understood the matter precisely and really it’s not too hard to understand although some posters make it seem like.

No Hindu preacher can go to an Islamic country and dare prove Islam wrong by any logic. Also why should they?

So for some Muslims to believe that Zakir Naik has all the right in the world to prove Hinduism wrong in Bharat which is the birthplace and the homeland of Hindus is asking for too much liberty.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

You really understood the matter precisely and really it’s not too hard to understand although some posters make it seem like.

No Hindu preacher can go to an Islamic country and dare prove Islam wrong by any logic. Also why should they?

So for some Muslims to believe that Zakir Naik has all the right in the world to prove Hinduism wrong in Bharat which is the birthplace and the homeland of Hindus is asking for too much liberty.

There is only one True Religion, you are not allowed to speak against it and should rightly be put to death. But converting from other religions into one true religion by whatever means is sanctioned by God and such deeds will be rewarded by the divine.

 

[Bhaijaan]

There is only one True Religion, you are not allowed to speak against it and should rightly be put to death. But converting from other religions into one true religion by whatever means is sanctioned by God and such deeds will be rewarded by the divine.

Let’s not mock anyone. We don’t want to be pulled into such useless arguements. Respect and give respect

I will to go to war to protect my dharma but i will never be silly enough to initiate it.

 

[Rajdeep]

Modi Ji was banned from entering the U.S. for nearly a decade yet Indians were still flocking en masse for their green cards. Yes, there is no comparison between the U.S. and Pakistan, but there is the contradiction when it comes to principle. India will do what’s convenient for them to score political points. Even if Pakistan arrests Zakir Naik, they’ll make a fuss about Zainab Abbas or something and demand her extradition due to some random FIR. The list goes on and on.

When Modi ji was banned, he was not PM of India. That had absolutely no co relation with Indians migrating into USA. Looks like you are clutching every straw to make an arguement. Do you normally debate like this?

 

[AAli98]

What has Naik done to Indians? Did he eat a goat or pray in public?

 

[offstump]

When Modi ji was banned, he was not PM of India. That had absolutely no co relation with Indians migrating into USA. Looks like you are clutching every straw to make an arguement. Do you normally debate like this?

You’ve made my point for me. It just took you a different way to understand it. Naik isn’t a head of state either yet we have Indians up in arms over him being in Pakistan and potentially using it as an excuse to boycott a cricket tournament.

 

[Farhan The Man]

What is the incremental benefit of him in Pakistan?

Did it further Pakistan or set us back?

 

[adi_62941]

Pakistan has become a national hub of Islamist extremism. Figures like Zakir Naik come in and present their narratives, which are highly sellable and favored among Pakistani citizens, who consider themselves champions of Islam.

Just last night, I spoke with two friends who are highly educated and very conservative from a religious point of view defending and highly praising all the narratives of Zakir Naik. I acknowledge that he has delivered some great speeches and some of his talks are tolerable, but many of them are absurd and fall into an extremist stance.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You really understood the matter precisely and really it’s not too hard to understand although some posters make it seem like.

No Hindu preacher can go to an Islamic country and dare prove Islam wrong by any logic. Also why should they?

So for some Muslims to believe that Zakir Naik has all the right in the world to prove Hinduism wrong in Bharat which is the birthplace and the homeland of Hindus is asking for too much liberty.

Not even sure that is true. But regardless, you are proving the validity of your argument by using Islamic standards - or what you think are Islamic standards. You should prove your argument using Hindu sources if that is the principle you are standing on.

 

[HalBass9]

He is not a fugitive in Pakistan.