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David Warner has his sights firmly set on becoming the new Adam Gilchrist at the top of Australia's one-day batting line-up. Warner, 23, is in India with the ODI squad and Australia's selectors are keen to see how he performs in the 50-over format on the subcontinent, with a potential World Cup place up for grabs.

Although Australia have largely used Warner as a Twenty20 specialist, he also played seven ODIs last year and once bludgeoned a memorable 165 in a one-day game for New South Wales. His all-or-nothing style might not always suit the pacing of 50-over cricket but he hopes he can play a similar role to Gilchrist, who was viewed by every opponent as a potential matchwinner.

"I see myself as similar to Adam Gilchrist, more of an X-factor player, where I go out there and try to mimic his role as he played," Warner told reporters in India. "He was aggressive, he might've come off one in five innings as well, but he changed the course of the game.

"Everyone was talking about, 'We've got to get Adam out, if we don't get him out then he could put 100 on in 10 overs'. I look up to him as that kind of player, an impact player, where if I can get off to a good start, I can put the other team on the back foot and make them worry about how they're going to get myself out, instead of the other players they should be worrying about as well."

The most recent of Warner's one-day internationals came against Scotland last August, but that was a one-off encounter used as a warm-up for Twenty20s against England. During his six earlier games Warner made one significant score - 69 against South Africa in Sydney - but he said he had found it hard to adjust from Twenty20 in his initial steps on the ODI scene.

"I felt that I had to keep going the same pace and one tempo, and that's where I reckon I've matured now and I've learned to adapt," Warner said. "There were little things there where I wasn't in the right position, so that's the thing that was out, but if I go back into the same situation I'm going to do the same thing because it was there to hit.

"But in the end I was probably feeling a bit of pressure because I wasn't scoring runs. I'm still going to play the same way I play, but not trying to go after every ball - I've got 50 overs, not 20. Now I reckon I'm mature enough that I can try to last 50 overs."

Warner's opportunity in India was granted when the selectors decided to rest Shane Watson ahead of the Ashes, but rain washed out the first ODI in Kochi on Sunday. There are also concerns over the weather for the remaining two games, in Visakhapatnam on Wednesday and Margao on Sunday.

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Fair enough to be talking about similarities. But Gilchrist had almost every shot in the book blessed with exquisite timing. Warner has a long way to go to match that.
 
that was a different age different era alltogether. forget gilchrist, try to get yourself in the team first.
 
Gilchrist was pretty much the best ever wicketkeeper/batsman, a total freak. never going to be another one.
 
Now we know how Pakistan feels when every captain says they want to be like Imran Khan....
 
Gilchrist was pretty much the best ever wicketkeeper/batsman, a total freak. never going to be another one.

+1. People forget that Gilly played on too long and that heavily reduced his batting average, it was around 60 for most of his career. That is a ridiculous stat for a number 7, especially since he cared little for remaining not out.
 
+1. People forget that Gilly played on too long and that heavily reduced his batting average, it was around 60 for most of his career. That is a ridiculous stat for a number 7, especially since he cared little for remaining not out.

Same for Dhoni!
 
he was never quite the same again after the 2005 Ashes, but he still managed to score a big hundred in the world cup final and the 2nd fastest test hundred ever before he retired. what a playa. before Gilchrist, it used to be quite alright for your no.7 to be crap. he is the yardstick and will surely never be quite matched.
 
he was never quite the same again after the 2005 Ashes, but he still managed to score a big hundred in the world cup final and the 2nd fastest test hundred ever before he retired. what a playa. before Gilchrist, it used to be quite alright for your no.7 to be crap. he is the yardstick and will surely never be quite matched.

Yep true. As you said he still played some great innings but they were sporadic rather than consistent.
 
After reading the title, I thought Warner's taking up wicketkeeping!:))

Gilchrist is truly a legend..the best wicketkeeper/batsman ever. It's very hard to match his class. He was not only a powerful player, but an excellent timer of the ball.
 
Absolute TOSH!! He well never be anywhere near like Gilly!

Gilly was a freak and probably the best Keeper / Batsman ever!

His views about how "..I see myself as similar to Adam Gilchrist..." is absolute nonsense and a ridiculous statement.
 
All the best warner.to be honest,very pathetic statements from some of you here.Its understandable if this was said by some guy who plays domestic cricket and has never played intnl cricket before.

He just said he wanted to do the same role played by gilchrist,and he finds some similarity to him-similarity in the sense his style of batting,and the same brutal way with which gilchrist played.
 
All the best warner.to be honest,very pathetic statements from some of you here.Its understandable if this was said by some guy who plays domestic cricket and has never played intnl cricket before.

He just said he wanted to do the same role played by gilchrist,and he finds some similarity to him-similarity in the sense his style of batting,and the same brutal way with which gilchrist played.

This guy cant bat long enough in an innings to show how brutal he is! So far, of what I've seen of him, he is an average batsman and I see no resemblance to Gilly, not now or ever!

I don't think he will ever be as 'brutal' as Gilly was!
 
This guy cant bat long enough in an innings to show how brutal he is! So far, of what I've seen of him, he is an average batsman and I see no resemblance to Gilly, not now or ever!

I don't think he will ever be as 'brutal' as Gilly was!

His opening debut of 83 runs,his 72 against us in barbados,his 67 against windies in half the balls were all brutal as far as im concerned.He has jplayed very less one dayers,He wont probably play tests either-he is now almost 0 percent of what gilchrist acheived in one days and tests but his way of batting atleast in my opinion is brutal.For me kevin pollard is brutal in the way he plays as richards but obviously he wont achieve anything near to him because players like he and warner seem to be a lot inconsistent.

But he is just saying he finds some similarity and hopes to strike fear same way as gilly did-which for me is nothing wrong.
 
Warner doesn't seem to realise that Gilly was a skilled batsman who could temper his game and play the conditions when necessary, to launch a counterattack later, Warner has only one dimension.

He is not in the league of a Jayasuriya, Sehwag or Gilchrist.
 
Warner doesn't seem to realise that Gilly was a skilled batsman who could temper his game and play the conditions when necessary, to launch a counterattack later, Warner has only one dimension.

He is not in the league of a Jayasuriya, Sehwag or Gilchrist.

I dont think Warner ever claimed he was in the same league as any player, but he still has two years of cricket before he is the same age as Gilly was when he first played for Australia.
 
he certainly has the shots for the job...but does he have the matchwinning ability?!

let's see.
 
Gilchrist was one of a kind. Ridiculously good eye, he's one of the few players I've seen who can follow a swinging ball with hand/eye co-ordination alone with little reliance on foot work, also a very fine player of extreme pace.
Warner is a bit over-rated imo, don't think he's a good player of a moving ball and may be worked out over time, but I guess we'll see and Gilchrist is certainly an excellent role model for him.
 
Can David Warner finish his career as an all-time great?

A fantastic opening batsmen across all formats. Who impacts games and is a genuine match winner. I have been critical of him for his performances away from Australia, but I think if he can improve his away record in tests, he can finish as am ATG. ODIs he has massively improved in the last 2 years. Probably the best opener in that format alongside De Kock.



How about you guys? Do you think he can surpass the likes of Sehwag and Hayden or not?

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I dont think he can surpass Matthew Hayden so that would mean he won't become an ATG.

Hayden was a fantastic player of spin and did exceptionally well in Asia. In comparison, Warner has been a walking wicket in these conditions. He did superb in SA but that isn't enough. I believe he would do well for him if he could reach at Hayden's level who himself was a great player but not ATG.

In odis, he has been doing fantastic these days though.

Overall I think he will end up as Australian great but not ATG.
 
Warner is a good opener for the current era. He is great in Australia but has struggled overseas except for SA. He did redeem himself in the BD tests but again that was just one series. I wouldn't classify him as ATG but will be one of Australia's best openers and a very good one at that. Players like G Kirsten/Saeed Anwar who performed better overseas and played against some of the ATG bowlers are not considered as ATG's, so to call Warner as ATG is a huge disservice them.
 
No , he would be a good player or perhaps an Australian great . He is very inconsistent in Asia .
 
No he won't.

Has the potential to have gun series in tough conditions when he is zone (like SA away series) but nowhere close to ATG in tests.

I would be mighty surprised if he even comes near ATG in tests.

ODIs, its easier to average 50 these days. I bet if one maintains good records and has a good WC or two, people will call them ATG (whether its right or wrong). In flatty tracks in WC, Warner is capable of doing well.

ODIs are a mess. So can't predict it not just for Warner but for anyone.
 
Absolute beast on flat tracks like most current batsmen but struggles big time whenever there is lateral movement.
 
Good thing is he is always hungry to learn.

ATG is a massive stretch but can't take away from his basic value to his team - which is immense.
 
It is amazing that Smith test batting average is currently 15 higher than Warner.

The good part about Warner though is that he has got killer instinct and is ruthless.

He is the Australian version of Sehwag but doesn't possess ability to play long innings like Sehwag did.
 
How does David Warner compare with other Aussie openers of the past?

Extremely impressed with his bounce back after the sandgate. A lot of people thought it would be the end of it but he’s emerged the strongest of the three banned players.

Match winner in all formats of the game.

Great stats as well.
 
With a bouncing leap and a thrust of his batting helmet to Taunton’s overcast skies on Wednesday, David Warner celebrated the century which announced that one of the most compelling figures in international cricket was truly back for Australia.

Yes, he may have already scored a couple of half-centuries and won a Player of the Match award at this ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2019 but this had not stopped the suggestions that the real Warner, the confident, unshackled, pugnacious version, had not yet properly reappeared since his return to the international stage.

Yet his team captain Aaron Finch had told everyone not to worry, that the left-hander was just a small ‘mindset change’ away from his swaggering “dangerous best” and, sure enough, the genuine article did turn up here to deliver his first ton at the 2019 tournament.

It was a knock more notable for its responsibility and authority than for any exhilarating flamboyance but a crisp effort that also reminded us that Australia, following their taming by India, are still world champions, and much more powerful world champions when this old firestarter is initiating the show in his inimitable bullish fashion.

“It means a lot to me,” admitted a delighted Warner, also not about to hide the sense of relief after his 107 off 111 balls, featuring 11 boundaries and one free-hit six bludgeoned into the pavilion courtesy of off-spinner Shoaib Malik’s previous no ball, proved his first international century for 18 months, since the 2017 Boxing Day Ashes Test.

Yet at Taunton’s lovely County Ground, even in front of a largely partisan Pakistani-supporting sell-out, Warner’s 15th international ODI century was greeted with respect from the opposing fans - just as Pakistan captain Safaraz Ahmed had wished for and predicted - and with utter delight from his Australian team-mates.

You could see just how much this innings meant to him as he engaged his batting partner Shaun Marsh in a bear hug. He cared not a jot that the landmark had been reached via an unconvincing prod that saw the ball streak between wicket-keeper and first slip for four; there was redemption in the air here.

Only four days earlier at the Oval, Warner had found himself being criticised, almost unthinkably for a natural-born dasher, as a dawdler during Australia’s run chase against India.

In a World Cup record chase of 352, he seemed far from his normal busy, bossy self at the crease, at one point hesitantly facing an almost unthinkable 14 dot balls in a row as he recorded the slowest 50, off 77 deliveries, of his one-day international career. This had followed his previous slowest, a 74-ball plod against Afghanistan.

His comparative sluggishness prompted all sorts of theories about what might be wrong, with the great Kumar Sangakkara even musing that Warner might perhaps be too desperate to produce the goods, that he could even be sub-consciously thinking too much of protecting his wicket instead of embarking on his old carefree adventures.

Yet after Australia had lost what looked an important toss on a bowler-friendly morning, Warner immediately looked a businessman on a mission, a model of positivity from the moment he pulled Shaheen Afridi neatly off his hip for four in the second over.

He more than survived and quickly thrived in perfect harmony with his captain Finch, whose 84-ball 82, peppered with four sixes, ensured that one of the most destructive partnerships in world cricket was back in perfectly oiled harmony.

The 146 they put on in just 22.1 overs proved a platform that, even after Australia had lost their last seven wickets for 84, always looked likely to be too much for Pakistan on one of their absent-minded days.

There is still much to work on for the champions but the return of a sharp, battle-hardened is the perfect boon. “It’s been a long time coming,” he smiled, with the look of a man who felt it will be a short time before the next telling contribution.

ICC Media Release
 
Guy's in the form of his life as he hits his 4th hundred in the WC
 
I think Warner can finish as an ATG. He is one of those players who can succeed in every format.
 
He needs at least 3 world cups titles to his name to be considered amongst some of the Australian greats like Gilchrist and Ponting. He has arguably been a better individual player than them but no one can become an ATG without a WC to his name, at least imo.
 
David Warner in the current series:

3
5
2
8
Total runs 18
Average 4.5
 
No..Poor record away from home. Has some hundreds when in zone in South Africa and Bangladesh but all in all, not an all condition bat. I would pick Langer over him in tests unless he improves in future.
 
He needs at least 3 world cups titles to his name to be considered amongst some of the Australian greats like Gilchrist and Ponting. He has arguably been a better individual player than them but no one can become an ATG without a WC to his name, at least imo.

He has been a better individual player than Ponting?

Lara, Donald, Pollock, Kallis, Waqar, Ambrose, Walsh, Greg Chappell, Hadlee - none of them won a WC in their career either.
 
Only if he totally dominates for the next 4/5 years. However, at 32 I don't really see it happening. In Tests he is an Aussie Pitch Basher imo. Averages 36 away from home. Other than Bangladesh who are horrible in tests apart from Australia the only place he's performed is South Africa, he likes the bouncy pitches. He needs to score in every condition to be an ATG imo. Hence I feel he will never become an ATG.
 
It seems now he will end up like poorer man's Hayden.
Brutal at home, swap Hayden's awesome India record for SA and bog average in India and Eng
 
Warner should end up with a pretty decent record but he is probably not an ATG. Smith is the only ATG-material in Aussie team currently.
 
Thora mushkil at this rate....

His numbers in the #Ashes so far: 2, 8, 3, 5, 65, 0, 0, 0.
 
Stuart Broad has got into David Warner’s head after getting the Australian opener out six times in the ongoing Ashes, Steve Smith has said. Warner has got out on three back-to-back ducks and Broad has been his main tormentor.

“We’ve talked, a few different things here and there,” Smith was quoted as saying by abc.net.au.

“It’s just trying to form a plan to get through Broad.

“He’s admitted himself Broad’s had the wood on him throughout this series and he’s been talking to myself and Justin (Langer) and Graeme Hick (batting coach).

“I think about ways he can play. He’s tried a couple different ways and they haven’t quite worked.”

Warner was trapped in front by Broad for his third duck on the trot.

Australia have the advantage nonetheless after reducing England to 18/2 and maintaining the deficit of 365 runs going into the final day. If they win the Test, the Aussies will retain the Ashes.

“It’s been tough with the new ball for both sides,” Smith said.

“The ball’s probably done its most when it’s new. When it gets a little bit softer it doesn’t do quite as much, it gets a little bit easier.

“They’ve bowled pretty well with the new ball. They’re particularly good bowlers to left-handed batters, both Broad and (Jofra) Archer.

“It’s not been easy for Davey and Marcus but they’re trying their hardest,” the former skipper added.

Smith has been Australia’s star batsman so far with his 211 in the first innings of the fourth Test helping the team go within sniffing distance of retaining the Ashes.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...steve-smith/story-cO5WvEbsGVBl5Por7t2OLM.html
 
In his autobiography, Former England captain Alastair Cook revealed that how Australia batsman David Warner once confessed to him that he used substances attached to the strapping on his hand to accelerate the deterioration of the ball during a first-class match.

Cook wrote the incident happened when he, along with other England players, shared a few beers with Australia team after the Steve Smith-led side won the Ashes 2017-18 series.

"David Warner, a couple of beers into his celebration, mentioned that he used substances attached to the strapping on his hand to accelerate the deterioration of the ball during a first-class match. I looked at Steve Smith who shot a glance that said: 'Ooh, you shouldn't have said that," Alastair Cook wrote.

Steve Smith, along with David Warner were handed a year ban for their involvement in the infamous Cape Town ball-tampering incident. Cameron Bancroft who, attempted to change the nature of the ball in that Test, was slapped with a 9-month ban.

Cook also wrote that the Australians went too far with their win-at-all-costs culture.

"Stuart Broad sums it up pretty well and says they got the ball to reverse swing in that Ashes. Why change what you've been doing? Why suddenly use sandpaper? People know what was going on. But it's been the best thing for Australian cricket because they realised it wasn't acceptable. The win-at-all-costs culture they created isn't what the Australian public needed or wanted. They'd gone too far."

In an interaction with the Guardian, Cook showered praise on Ashes hero Steve Smith and said the Australian batsman is redefining the possible capabilities of a batsman.

Smith has amassed 671 runs in 5 innings despite missing the 3rd Ashes Test. The former Australian skipper thus far has scored 144, 142, 92, 211 and 82 to help his side retain the Ashes Urn on English soil for the first time since 2001.

"He doesn't look like he's one of the best ever," Cook says wryly of Smith's style, "but he's operating on a different level. I've always had Lara, Ponting and Kallis as the three best batsmen I've ever seen. Smith [30] is younger than me but what he's achieving is phenomenal. He's redefining what is possible as a batsman. The MCC manual talks about side-on movement but Smith stands in a much more open way and still plays incredibly well."

"He is a freak in terms of his ability to play the kind of unorthodox shot, on all-fours, he used to get to his 50 on the first day [last week]. His God-given talent, apart from his work ethic and hand-eye co-ordination, is extraordinary. He nicks the ball far less than any other player ever - maybe with the exception of Don Bradman. Smith just doesn't miss a ball on his pads."

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...y-ashes-series-steve-smith-1597683-2019-09-10
 
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