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Dean Jones applies for the position of Pakistan Head Coach

Would you like to see Dean Jones as Pakistan Head Coach?


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Then why Misbah vouched Azhar Ali as a captain but didn't select him when Misbah himself was a captain?
Why he selected 42+ Rifatullah?
Why he didn't want S Afridi in Pakistan squad?
Also, he benched Babar at the first PSL

Even if Misbah picked a 3 legged donkey in the side, [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] will still find a way to defend him.

Calls everyone irrational but comes up with the worst threads on the forum and this was on full display with all those hate filled Imad threads.
 
Exactly. It's this kind of mentality that is holding our cricket back.

I rather they just said "we don't want a foreign coach" rather pretend the basis of their preference is in the best interests of Pakistan cricket.

Exactly. These people are actually complaining about Dean Jones as a coach saying what has he done, but on the other hand they are fine with Misbah who doesn't have any experience.
 
Even if Misbah picked a 3 legged donkey in the side, [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] will still find a way to defend him.

Calls everyone irrational but comes up with the worst threads on the forum and this was on full display with all those hate filled Imad threads.

I dare say Imad is a much better odi batsmen then misbah.
 
Lol what emotions? - I just don't take you seriously on this matter, as I'll mention again - earlier this year you wanted Mickey Arthur to be sacked and you vouched for MHK to be his replacement.

I know you will deny this or run away, as you did with my last post addressed to you (couple of days ago).

Again not producing any of the facts regarding my previous statement rather trying to divert it to other topics. Its a discussion forum which ideally should be done with facts. I never vouched for MHK (Again talking without facts), not a fan of his or anybody but numbers dont lie and MHK won more series in his tea sipping tenure than Arther in his last two years. Now thats a fact whether you like it or not.
 
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Exactly. These people are actually complaining about Dean Jones as a coach saying what has he done, but on the other hand they are fine with Misbah who doesn't have any experience.

It's actually beyond double standards because unlike Misbah, Dean Jones has a high level coaching qualification.

Misbah has no experience as a coach and is clearly unqualified for this role. Misbah's cheerleaders have no shame.
 
Deano is either going to be the Batting Coach or Head Coach.

I reckon it'll be the former for him and latter for Misbah.

I laugh at all those vouching for Misbah because the guy doesn't even meet the pre-requisites required to be an international coach, but in Pakistan there's no respect for meritocracy, so we'll happily accept garbage like Waqar, Mohsin Khan et al.

Still waiting for the pre requisites and how Shastri and Lehman met those? (Already asked thrice and got nothing close to the answer or facts). :kp
 
It's actually beyond double standards because unlike Misbah, Dean Jones has a high level coaching qualification.

Misbah has no experience as a coach and is clearly unqualified for this role. Misbah's cheerleaders have no shame.

Exactly. These people are actually complaining about Dean Jones as a coach saying what has he done, but on the other hand they are fine with Misbah who doesn't have any experience.

Just to be clear as I have said before Dean Jones in my opinion is a solid candidate as well because he adapted the mindset of local players and Pakistan's cricketing culture in PSL much better than other foreign coaches.
 
It's actually beyond double standards because unlike Misbah, Dean Jones has a high level coaching qualification.

Misbah has no experience as a coach and is clearly unqualified for this role. Misbah's cheerleaders have no shame.

If they did have shame they wouldn't be backing him when he was talking rubbish about shaheen, not playing babar at islamabad. The list goes on.
 
Just to be clear as I have said before Dean Jones in my opinion is a solid candidate as well because he adapted the mindset of local players and Pakistan's cricketing culture in PSL much better than other foreign coaches.

Just to finish of the sentence for you, he's much better then our local rubbish as well as much better candidate then misbah.
 
Again not producing any of the facts regarding my previous statement rather trying to divert it to other topics. Its a discussion forum which ideally should be done with facts. I never vouched for MHK (Again talking without facts), not a fan of his or anybody but numbers dont lie and MHK won more series in his tea sipping tenure than Arther in his last two years. Now thats a fact whether you like it or not.

How sure are you about that? You do realise all I have to do is bring up that post (which was addressed to me)?

So you can deny it or I'll just have to bring it up. It's your choice.
 
How sure are you about that? You do realise all I have to do is bring up that post (which was addressed to me)?

So you can deny it or I'll just have to bring it up. It's your choice.

Why dont you answer the first question which I asked and was related to this thread? My vouching for MHK or not isnt gonna change any of that.
 
Why dont you answer the first question which I asked and was related to this thread? My vouching for MHK or not isnt gonna change any of that.

You have vouched for MHK and more recently, now with unqualified coaches (like Misbah) to be given the Head Coach position, so how am I supposed to take you seriously on this matter?

As mentioned last week, I hold you with high regard as a poster but on this matter I don't think it's a conversation worth having because you have your agenda.
 
Dean Jones > Misbah, i mean he actually has actual coaching experience, and has had success leading a team. Misbah is definitely not right for the job, i mean you have to look at whats coming up, the t20 world cup is next year, does misbah have the ability and mindset to lead a team to become champions? and all that in 1 year? highly highly doubt that...he is out...if he really wants to coach, show us your coaching resume, or how about he build one first, go down to first class or under 19's (which is already taken by Ijaz Ahmed) and atleast prove himself before he just strolls in to the biggest stage.

The only problem I see with a foreign coach is that emotional connect to the team. If its a local coach, they feel the pain when Pakistan loses, i think its added incentive and output might be higher if the coach is Pakistani....but what do i know ?
 
I dare say Imad is a much better odi batsmen then misbah.

If they did have shame they wouldn't be backing him when he was talking rubbish about shaheen, not playing babar at islamabad. The list goes on.

Imad > Misbah in ODIs. The fact that Imad has almost identical average to Misbah but at a far superior average is what I suspect prompted [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] to come up with the hate campaign against him with all those threads.

Can you imagine if Misbah was batting in that Afghanistan game (instead of Imad), he would have choked like he did in Mohali (and Johannesburg).

Misbah's comments on Shaheen (before he admitted he was wrong), further prove his lack of cricketing intelligence.
 
Dean and Misbah combo is the way to go. They have a proven success record for ISU.

Dean - Team Director/Chief Selector
Misbah - Head Coach

Coaching at international level is overrated. A manager/strategist/director role is more useful.
 
Imad > Misbah in ODIs. The fact that Imad has almost identical average to Misbah but at a far superior average is what I suspect prompted [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] to come up with the hate campaign against him with all those threads.

Can you imagine if Misbah was batting in that Afghanistan game (instead of Imad), he would have choked like he did in Mohali (and Johannesburg).

Misbah's comments on Shaheen (before he admitted he was wrong), further prove his lack of cricketing intelligence.

You're really just exposing yourself by comparing a #4/5 batsmen to a #7/8 batsmen...
 
You're really just exposing yourself by comparing a #4/5 batsmen to a #7/8 batsmen...

Not when Imad's SR exceeds your beloved by over 30%.

So no you exposed yourself with the fact that your head is shoved so far deep into Misbah's rear end.
 
Even if Misbah picked a 3 legged donkey in the side, [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] will still find a way to defend him.

Calls everyone irrational but comes up with the worst threads on the forum and this was on full display with all those hate filled Imad threads.

Problem is people like Hawkeye, Major....support Misbah more than Pakistan Cricket team. They are happy with Misbah's match loosing selfish innings.
 
Problem is people like Hawkeye, Major....support Misbah more than Pakistan Cricket team. They are happy with Misbah's match loosing selfish innings.

And it's exactly why these two weren't the happiest when Pakistan won the CT because it exposed the incompetence of their hero, when you consider how Misbah led the side in the 2013 CT (also held in England), the team could not even get a win let alone come anywhere near to winning the tournament.
 
Not when Imad's SR exceeds your beloved by over 30%.

So no you exposed yourself with the fact that your head is shoved so far deep into Misbah's rear end.

Imad plays as a finisher, Misbah would walk out at 50/3, Imad's average is inflated by not outs. How long have you been watching cricket? These are simple aspects of the game that anyone who has been properly watching for even a year would know.

I have never been a crazy Misbah supporter, I have said in other threads as well, that Misbah is not my ideal choice for head coach, hell he wouldn't even be my 10th option, but people are really overreacting when they say stuff like "Pakistan cricket is doomed" if Misbah becomes coach. There is no doubt in my mind that he will be an upgrade over Mickey.
 
You have vouched for MHK and more recently, now with unqualified coaches (like Misbah) to be given the Head Coach position, so how am I supposed to take you seriously on this matter?

As mentioned last week, I hold you with high regard as a poster but on this matter I don't think it's a conversation worth having because you have your agenda.

First of all thanks for the respect and the feeling is mutual.

Secondly I personally have no agenda, Misbah was a decent test captain and a good cricketing mind as we lost no test home series under him which just proves it and achieved no 1 test ranking first time ever. Yes there were many reasons but we cant undermine Misbah's role as a leader.

Coming to LOIs, yes his tenure was mediocre and he wasnt a really good ODI batsman himself. But, then I feel the players in that time available were pretty mediocre too. More importantly he came in when Pak cricket was going through a big turmoil post Spot Fixing Saga and gave a decent image to Pak cricket once again.

He knows Pak cricket culture and players' mindsets having played in it for almost two decades or more including domestic cricket.

So these are few reasons I am not against Misbah getting any managerial position.

However, how well he fill fit in and what will be the results nobody can predict. But overall I am Ok with either Deano or Misbah as I am pretty sure both will achieve much more than what Arther was able to especially in test arena.

But as I have said earlier I am not a fan of individuals but rather what they have done for Pak and can do for Pak. I can be wrong in my judgement as well just like anybody else but again there is no agenda involved rather predictions based upon the past involvements of both Misbah and Deano.
 
Lehman has been coaching since 2009

Coaching mostly in T20 leagues and didnt have any experience with international sides or a proven success record with any domestic side as well.
 
Dean and Misbah combo is the way to go. They have a proven success record for ISU.

Dean - Team Director/Chief Selector
Misbah - Head Coach

Coaching at international level is overrated. A manager/strategist/director role is more useful.

Totally. Both complemented each other really well as we have seen in PSL. Even at manegerial level combinations are really important as we saw with Hessen/Bmac combo for NZ.

Cant wait to see Deano wearing suit with PCB logo as team director as he was doing with IU if it happens. :sarf2
 
Imad plays as a finisher, Misbah would walk out at 50/3, Imad's average is inflated by not outs. How long have you been watching cricket? These are simple aspects of the game that anyone who has been properly watching for even a year would know.

I have never been a crazy Misbah supporter, I have said in other threads as well, that Misbah is not my ideal choice for head coach, hell he wouldn't even be my 10th option, but people are really overreacting when they say stuff like "Pakistan cricket is doomed" if Misbah becomes coach. There is no doubt in my mind that he will be an upgrade over Mickey.

This. Which makes some posters like me to look like a die hard Misbah fan which I am clearly not but when there is so much overreaction going on then any comment in favor of Misbah makes you a fan in the eyes of many.
 
According to some insiders PCB has already made Misbah as next coach today but delaying the announcement.
 
Dean and Misbah combo is the way to go. They have a proven success record for ISU.

Dean - Team Director/Chief Selector
Misbah - Head Coach

Coaching at international level is overrated. A manager/strategist/director role is more useful.

I wouldn't mind Deano assisting Misbah in some way.

They both have a good chemistry, and have taken ISLU to its heights.
 
According to some insiders PCB has already made Misbah as next coach today but delaying the announcement.

Whats the big news Deano is hinting towards? Are we gonna see a role for him as well?
 
Whats the big news Deano is hinting towards? Are we gonna see a role for him as well?

Dean is as usual over hype person and unaware of PCB's dirty politics. Hopefully he will get message this time and he will not bother to apply for any post advertisement next time.
 
Dean is as usual over hype person and unaware of PCB's dirty politics. Hopefully he will get message this time and he will not bother to apply for any post advertisement next time.

I wont be surprised though if Deano is there in some sort of role like team director etc as [MENTION=139975]The_Odd_One[/MENTION] was mentioning. But, yes its all guess work till now.
 
Bro just wait 1 month and you will see how SL will hammer us Misbah being our coach.
Hopefully some of Misbah's fans will change their mind after couple of years and demand his sacking.

Yes Misbah being coach will turn all our players mental and they will forget how to bat, bowl, field and even breathe. Tell us more!
 
Yes Misbah being coach will turn all our players mental and they will forget how to bat, bowl, field and even breathe. Tell us more!

He will tell players to play safely rather than attacking/dynamic means we will score 250-270 in 350 runs pitches plus he will select older players who will be struggling against other teams' younger players.
 
He will tell players to play safely rather than attacking/dynamic means we will score 250-270 in 350 runs pitches plus he will select older players who will be struggling against other teams' younger players.

He didn't tell players to play safely even when he was captain, why would he now? The likes of Umar Akmal would be playing their shots and getting out in all sorts of stupid ways.

What's this fascination with him apparently favouring old players? If he loved his old friends so much why didn't Azhar or Shafiq play for his PSL team? Misbah's PSL team has always giving youngsters a chance, IIRC they would even play more than one emerging player at times even when they didn't have to. And as if we don't have old players who struggle already, the likes of Hafeez and Malik have been in the side for a long time so by the off chance Misbah selects other oldies, nothing is really changing.
 

I was talking about pre requisites which top spin mentioned while mentioning that Misbah doesnt have international coaching experience and in reply to that i mentioned number of names including Lehamn. While Lehman has got success with Chargers in IPL and Queensland in Aus domestic system for couple of seasons its pretty subjective to say he fulfills the pre requisites or not as nobody exactly knows what were the exact pre requisites he was talking about.

Then we also have Ravi Shastri as I mentioned earlier who doesnt have much coaching experience before he became head coach of India.

So its not like there are set pre requisites which determine the success of a coach.
 
Where is the poll for Dean Jones? Would have him any day over Misbah.
 
I wouldn't mind Deano assisting Misbah in some way.

They both have a good chemistry, and have taken ISLU to its heights.

Misbah’s involvement will also ensure that Pakistan will not go with one specialist spinner in the UAE tests anymore. Jones will keep the aggressive approach in ODIs moving.
 
Totally. Both complemented each other really well as we have seen in PSL. Even at manegerial level combinations are really important as we saw with Hessen/Bmac combo for NZ.

Cant wait to see Deano wearing suit with PCB logo as team director as he was doing with IU if it happens. :sarf2

Jones was a big supporter of Sharjeel and was himself an attacking batsman. He will ensure that Pakistan play limited overs cricket with positive intent.

Misbah will be an asset in tests. He knows how to win matches in the UAE where Pakistan will be playing most of their tests. Pakistan also need a character with integrity like Misbah to keep checks and balances on the team.
 
In my opinion, Misbah should have applied for the role of batting coach with Deano being head coach. Misbah is undoubtedly underqualifird for the Head Coach role. Perhaps even more importantly, Misbah is conflicted because he also was a key member of the team that decided to sack Mickey. Instead of chasing Misbah to become coach, the PCB should have prohibited him from applying in the first place. But even with guys like Mani and Wasim running the ship, the PCB remains as unprofessional as ever.

I read that Misbah may get the role due to lack of interest from any other credible candidate. I'm sorry but if it's there is no one suitable willing to replace Mickey, on what basis did the PCB reach the decision to sack Mickey? It just makes Misbah's involvement in the sacking process look even worse.
 
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Ravi Shaatri, Justin Langer, Mike Hessen, Darren Lehman, Russel Domingo, Gary Stead(Current NZ coach) etc have never coached an international team before their first assignment as well. So theory regarding Misbah not having coached an international side before is not on.

Coming to Deano, even in PSL he looked to be adapting cricket culture of Pakistan, system and players mindsets much better than the other foreign coaches we have seen in PSL. Dean Jones knows cricket and can be pretty decent with Pak team alongside Misbah.

Not sure about the others, but Langer coached Western Australia for years before taking the Australia job.

Misbah proved to be a pretty good test captain, but his lack of coaching experience is concerning.

Now we can only base on his captaincy, which shows he was a good test captain, but his LOI captaincy was poor.

Maybe he can do a better job with better players available then back then.
 
First of all thanks for the respect and the feeling is mutual.

Secondly I personally have no agenda, Misbah was a decent test captain and a good cricketing mind as we lost no test home series under him which just proves it and achieved no 1 test ranking first time ever. Yes there were many reasons but we cant undermine Misbah's role as a leader.

Coming to LOIs, yes his tenure was mediocre and he wasnt a really good ODI batsman himself. But, then I feel the players in that time available were pretty mediocre too. More importantly he came in when Pak cricket was going through a big turmoil post Spot Fixing Saga and gave a decent image to Pak cricket once again.

He knows Pak cricket culture and players' mindsets having played in it for almost two decades or more including domestic cricket.

So these are few reasons I am not against Misbah getting any managerial position.

However, how well he fill fit in and what will be the results nobody can predict. But overall I am Ok with either Deano or Misbah as I am pretty sure both will achieve much more than what Arther was able to especially in test arena.

But as I have said earlier I am not a fan of individuals but rather what they have done for Pak and can do for Pak. I can be wrong in my judgement as well just like anybody else but again there is no agenda involved rather predictions based upon the past involvements of both Misbah and Deano.

The issue I see I have is with your extensive support for unqualified ex-players, but with a qualified Mickey Arthur, you were desperate to see him gone even though Pakistan's white ball cricket has improved vastly under his responsibility.

Before Mickey Arthur, we had yet another ex-player coach this side and fail miserable. Waqar failed in his both of his stints, so what makes you so confident that Misbah can deliver? - especially when you consider the fact him and Waqar were the reason for Pakistan's slide to 9th in 2015.

In my opinion Misbah's home test accomplishments are overstated because if Sarfraz had an ATG player of spin (in Younis Khan) and the chucking services of Ajmal and Hafeez, he would have managed to get at least a draw out of the lost series against SL and NZ.

Dean Jones has some coaching experience, although it's not much of a portfolio to see on his CV. Although he has the qualifications, he is far inferior to Mickey Arthur.

We deserve to fail for this decision alone. Not saying he's a top grade coach but we clearly don't have a more competent replacement for him (qualifications + experience wise).

As I've said numerous times (of late), the Head Coach role for the Pakistan is not deemed to be prestigious for world class overseas coaches to be flooding in their CVs.

If we wanted to sack Mickey Arthur, we should have found a suitable replacement first... This has been a real cock-up by the PCB (to say the least) and because of that perhaps we deserve minnow status.
 
Pretty sure he ment in ODIs. Not that hard to grasp.

Even if he is talking about ODIs its wrong too because Azhar Ali debuted in ODIs under Misbah as well and played quite a few matches before getting dropped. Its not that hard to do a little research.
 
The issue I see I have is with your extensive support for unqualified ex-players, but with a qualified Mickey Arthur, you were desperate to see him gone even though Pakistan's white ball cricket has improved vastly under his responsibility.

Before Mickey Arthur, we had yet another ex-player coach this side and fail miserable. Waqar failed in his both of his stints, so what makes you so confident that Misbah can deliver? - especially when you consider the fact him and Waqar were the reason for Pakistan's slide to 9th in 2015.

In my opinion Misbah's home test accomplishments are overstated because if Sarfraz had an ATG player of spin (in Younis Khan) and the chucking services of Ajmal and Hafeez, he would have managed to get at least a draw out of the lost series against SL and NZ.

Dean Jones has some coaching experience, although it's not much of a portfolio to see on his CV. Although he has the qualifications, he is far inferior to Mickey Arthur.

We deserve to fail for this decision alone. Not saying he's a top grade coach but we clearly don't have a more competent replacement for him (qualifications + experience wise).

As I've said numerous times (of late), the Head Coach role for the Pakistan is not deemed to be prestigious for world class overseas coaches to be flooding in their CVs.

If we wanted to sack Mickey Arthur, we should have found a suitable replacement first... This has been a real cock-up by the PCB (to say the least) and because of that perhaps we deserve minnow status.

I agree with a lot of your points and also that there is no guarantee he will be a success or not. However, I am pretty sure whoever becomes the catch we will see much better results in tests than we saw under Mickey.
 
Not sure about the others, but Langer coached Western Australia for years before taking the Australia job.

Misbah proved to be a pretty good test captain, but his lack of coaching experience is concerning.

Now we can only base on his captaincy, which shows he was a good test captain, but his LOI captaincy was poor.

Maybe he can do a better job with better players available then back then.

Except Ravi Shastri all other names I have mentioned have domestic coaching experience with decent success but they didnt have any international coaching experience as I mentioned.

I think the reason Misbah is being considered in because of the feedback PCB got with Misbah's tenure as mentor of PZ in the last PSL edition, Mentor cum captain of IU and more than two decades of playing cricket in Pak domestic system and thus knowing ins and outs of the system along with having international playing experience too.

These are the reasons I can think of and there is no guarantee it will be a success or not just like with any other hiring. The problem with our domestic system is that not only it didnt produce a lot of cricketers in recent times but also not any international level coach as well. Also big names amongst ex cricketers didnt use to coach departmental or regional team as we have seen in other countries so if we want a local coach I doubt we will find many with domestic experience and success and his stature to be big enough for international level. Hopefully with the new domestic system we will see bigger local names in the head coach roles as well this making it easier for PCB to transition from one local coach to another going forward.
 
Hope it isn't Dean.

Wasim Khan should act more mature than that. Just because he's a foreigner and can speak great English, shouldn't be the criteria to be a coach.

Misbah will be 100x better. In fact, Dean Jones can come as an assistant to Misbah. Wouldn't mind ISLU success in the national team.

HAHAHA Awful logic. I would love to see your face when Dean Jones is selected. Burnol stocks would run short in Pakistan due to you and Major.
 
Neither Dean Jones nor Misbah-ul-haq are good enough to handle a volatile side, riddled with petty politics, as Pakistan.

For us to go from a professinal coach with international experience to this dilemma, is typical of Pakistan cricket :facepalm:
 
#TeamDeanJones2019 - Welcome the Maurizio Sarri of Cricket

Most of us were TeamHesson before but then the news broke out that he was not in the race for the coaching position to our utmost disappointment.

Then some ominous signs started showing up when a certain "individual's" name started showing up who has a palpable discord with a good majority of the pakistani cricket watching population. :wy

We the fans were in total despair until we saw that theres one ray of hope, Dean Jones.

Dean Jones has been vying for the position of Pakistan cricket team coach for a good amount of time. He has never coached an international team before and this will be a massive break for him if he manages to get the position.

He has done some great stuff with ISLU, and maybe he can replicate his success with the national team as well.

He will definitely be better than the individual who is known for his backward attrition cricketing mentality.

Whos with me? :lara
 
Maybe Misbah might be a test coach and Dean an odi/t20 coach.

Or Dean will be batting coach.

Time will tell
 
Asked Deano what the big news is going to be.

He said "you will find out soon enough, my friend" :)
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you all ready to hear my BIG NEWS?</p>— Dean Jones AM (@ProfDeano) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProfDeano/status/1167641656549494784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Is THIS his "big announcement", after hyping it up for over a week? Can't be...
 
Looks like this commentary is the big news rather than be ahead coach. Most likely he gave up.
We are hearing about Misbah as a head coach for more than month and recently every videos are boasting that he is the front runner to be a head coach.
 
Looks like this commentary is the big news rather than be ahead coach. Most likely he gave up.
We are hearing about Misbah as a head coach for more than month and recently every videos are boasting that he is the front runner to be a head coach.

Misbah is the best choice
 
I don't know what future holds for Pakistan but as per the experience and approach we've seen from Misbah we're almost going downhill if he's going to be our head coach.

I never expected Misbah will fire someone and then will try to takeover. This is really not good PCB should think about it and not to give him any coaching position.

If they do we as a PCB are already a joke of an organisation this will just prove it again.
 
:))) that was hilarious. Well played.

The guy had secured a back up job. So either way there was going to be some big news
 
:))) that was hilarious. Well played.

The guy had secured a back up job. So either way there was going to be some big news

Because he knew that so no point to waste any time.

Media has been broadcasting Misbah as next coach for more than a month even before Misbah applied for the position.
 
Tbh Dean Jones has not looked very interested at all. His attitude is of a guy who just applied for the sake of it but wasn't very enthusiastic about the job
 
I don’t understand the fascination with Dean Jones. It appears that all it takes is for a foreigner to praise Pakistan to become the front runner.

He is a lose cannon, he has not been deemed good enough by any serious international team or a serious franchise league.

The only international experience he has is serving as interim coach for Afghanistan. If he was a decent coach, the major teams would have expressed some interest in him. He hasn’t been recruited by IPL and BBL either.
 
I don’t understand the fascination with Dean Jones. It appears that all it takes is for a foreigner to praise Pakistan to become the front runner.

He is a lose cannon, he has not been deemed good enough by any serious international team or a serious franchise league.

The only international experience he has is serving as interim coach for Afghanistan. If he was a decent coach, the major teams would have expressed some interest in him. He hasn’t been recruited by IPL and BBL either.

Precisely. Used to be like that in India a decade or two back, in various fields not just the cricket, but now IMO that attitude is vanishing.

Ok trolling you - 'loose', not 'lose' (cannon). Mamoon, how could especially you?
 
It is beyond me how Dean Jones and Misbah are front runners for the head coach rule. Neither have coached a FC team, which IMO should be a bare minimum to even be considered for the job.
 
Sacking of Arthur has clearly backfired, I was more in the tom moody and hesson camp, if I have to go with either then I'd prefer dean Jones, at the elite level it's about mentoring the players rather than day to day coaching, the batting coach, the bowling coach take care of little technical issues that start developing, Jones for me would be a better bet
 
Sacking of Arthur has clearly backfired, I was more in the tom moody and hesson camp, if I have to go with either then I'd prefer dean Jones, at the elite level it's about mentoring the players rather than day to day coaching, the batting coach, the bowling coach take care of little technical issues that start developing, Jones for me would be a better bet

I agree, much prefer Dean Jones to Misbah, but I have no doubts the latter will be the one appointed for the Head Coach role.

Only in Pakistan does an unqualified ex-player with no coaching experience get the nod of someone more qualified with some proven success (albeit very minor at PSL level).

Dean Jones is vastly inferior to Mickey Arthur but given the low calibre of applicants, he is the best man for the role.
 
It's pretty clear the PCB has put all of its eggs in one basket regarding the vacancies.
 
I agree, much prefer Dean Jones to Misbah, but I have no doubts the latter will be the one appointed for the Head Coach role.

Only in Pakistan does an unqualified ex-player with no coaching experience get the nod of someone more qualified with some proven success (albeit very minor at PSL level).

Dean Jones is vastly inferior to Mickey Arthur but given the low calibre of applicants, he is the best man for the role.

Worriangly, the new hirachy seem to be making the same mistakes
 
Deano and a few others not impressed with the salary being offered by PCB for the current vacancies.
 
From the candidates who applied, Dean Jones seems like the best option.
 
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Welcome to the mad house:69:! Deano must be bored sitting in the commentary box.
 
I don’t understand the fascination with Dean Jones. It appears that all it takes is for a foreigner to praise Pakistan to become the front runner.

He is a lose cannon, he has not been deemed good enough by any serious international team or a serious franchise league.

The only international experience he has is serving as interim coach for Afghanistan. If he was a decent coach, the major teams would have expressed some interest in him. He hasn’t been recruited by IPL and BBL either.

I get the feeling is that he's the best Pakistan can do. I get that CMA was not perfect, but it is hard to sell a coach on Pakistan when the last coach won an ICC trophy and still got let go (even with losing 12 ODIs in a row). I personally believe that for the foreseeable future, the resources with the current economic situation are not available to actually have significant success with any coach, Pakistani or foreign. While the domestic restructuring is a very positive start, there needs to be a culture change around Pakistan that needs to happen first. The players don't take accountability without a stick to their head.

One thought on my mind is that with international cricket slowing returning to Pakistan, it could be useful to hire one of the top coaches at the domestic level and have them coach instead. They would definitely get a pay raise, they've already succeeded at winning, and they will have a strong understanding of the current (and likely future) domestic structure due to having to plan against potential selections every QeA and List A season. I think this is part of the lure with Dean Jones and Misbah, since IU has been so successful under their tenures-they will have seen most of the potential selections for LOI cricket.
 
Misbah wouldn't have resigned his position on the committee if he hadn't already been given the nod privately.
 
TBH I wouldn't be satisfied with Dean Jones or Misbah, don't think either of them are deserving/are good enough to take Pakistan in the right direction. However, if I had to choose, I would go with Dean as he has a little more coaching experience and I think his fierce personality suits the job.
 
Dean Jones doesn't really look that keen to me. If he was dead serious about the role he would have flown down privately for the interview rather than accept a kabadi league commentary gig
 
I think the 200k dollars a year salary probably put a few high profile candidates off applying for the role of head coach.
 
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