Do BJP owe its success to Anti Pakistan and Anti Muslim rhethoric rather than any tangible performance?

[The Bald Eagle]

Unlike the popular belief, no achievements but following points were and are the BJP's main weapons against its opponents in the 2024 elections.

In 2018-19

*We have done surgical strikes

*We have done balakot strikes with so called killing of 300 plus terrorists inside Pakistan.

In 2024

*We have restored Ayodha Mandhir (BJP)

*Congress will implement shariah law in the country ( Yogi Adityanath)

*Congress manifesto is akin to Muslim League's manifesto (Modi)

*Congress party’s manifesto is prepared in a way that they win elections in Pakistan (Assam CM Himanta Sharma)

*Rahul Gandhi will never attend the Ayodha opening ceremony.

No mention of how will they lower the high unemployment rate, no more mention of "Vikas" agenda, 5 trillion economy still a distant dream.

Foreign policy in tatters as Maldives, China, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Nepal are all moving away from India. Russia, the long term ally of India has moved closer to Pakistan owing to Modi government's poor balancing act between USA and Russia.

So could anyone deny that BJP owes its success to hate politics rather than tangible performance?

 

[MP2011]

For starters, feku won't have won a single election had he not applied his usual dog whistles against Muslims in all elections in his political career.

 

[MP2011]

Same goes for his chums like motabhai, Sarma, bisht etc.

 

[JaDed]

Good try , but can you tell me what is tangible performance?

Better foreign reserves, better infrastructure, never going to IMF, high FDI, more R and D.

Our foreign policy is way more pragmatic, we have good relations with Russia West etc.
Didn’t know Russia was close to Pakistan considering US made you lock your elected PM in a jail for just visiting them, we have complete control on our government.

Nepal and India had similar issues before as well we still have an open border with them, with Lanka this is the best situation we have had since China bankrupted them.

Maldives issue might actually work for India in the long term if India can develop Lakshwadeep but time will tell.

With Pakistan that’s on Pakistan, they have actual firing issues with everyone around them.

We have that issue only with Pakistan, even with China no bullets get fired but yes we have an issue with them, with other countries we actually only have wording issues not missile kind.

 

[MP2011]

Speaking about R&D, our outlay for R&D is amongst lowest in world, 0.65% of our GDP!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Good try , but can you tell me what is tangible performance?

Better foreign reserves, better infrastructure, never going to IMF, high FDI, more R and D.

Our foreign policy is way more pragmatic, we have good relations with Russia West etc.
Didn’t know Russia was close to Pakistan considering US made you lock your elected PM in a jail for just visiting them, we have complete control on our government.

Nepal and India had similar issues before as well we still have an open border with them, with Lanka this is the best situation we have had since China bankrupted them.

Maldives issue might actually work for India in the long term if India can develop Lakshwadeep but time will tell.

With Pakistan that’s on Pakistan, they have actual firing issues with everyone around them.

We have that issue only with Pakistan, even with China no bullets get fired but yes we have an issue with them, with other countries we actually only have wording issues not missile kind.

Based on the recent statements of BJP head honchos the stuff you mentioned isn't enough to sway the Indian masses. The leadership seem to think the awaam need an injection of hatred and bigotry to vote for BJP.

 

[JaDed]

Based on the recent statements of BJP head honchos the stuff you mentioned isn't enough to sway the Indian masses. The leadership seem to think the awaam need an injection of hatred and bigotry to vote for BJP.

Yes.. they are my point is on Tangible performance.

 

[pillionrider]

For starters, feku won't have won a single election had he not applied his usual dog whistles against Muslims in all elections in his political career.

Take away the media fake propaganda and he wouldn't have ever won single party majority even with his dog whistles.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Yes.. they are my point is on Tangible performance.

How tangible is it then when the average punter needs to hear xenophobic statements to make their vote.

I mean surely the BJP would be better off pointing a finger to their record to convince people than pointing fingers criticising everyone else.

 

[MP2011]

Take away the media fake propaganda and he wouldn't have ever won single party majority even with his dog whistles.

That's true as well.

 

[MP2011]

How tangible is it then when the average punter needs to hear xenophobic statements to make their vote.

I mean surely the BJP would be better off pointing a finger to their record to convince people than pointing fingers criticising everyone else.

You gotta have some performance to speak about. If not, all you can do is dig stories from 6 decades ago. Or crucify a particular community.

 

[JaDed]

How tangible is it then when the average punter needs to hear xenophobic statements to make their vote.

I mean surely the BJP would be better off pointing a finger to their record to convince people than pointing fingers criticising everyone else.

Happens in every country from US to UK to Aus , Canada.
Socially is unfortunately how majority vote, and creating a narrative of fear helps these parties even if their economic performance is good.

 

[pillionrider]

Many people are mistaken when they think anti-Muslim and anti-Pakistan is enough to win you majority in India. It might seem that way, but it's far from the truth.

How did Modi win in 2014 - the foundation was his face as a strong, incorruptible, Hindu leader who was proud to be Hindu and who could also keep the Muslim menace in check. But that was not enough. He was presented as the poster boy of development with some fictional Gujarat model presented by his media as an example of what a sincere, non-corrupt person could achieve for the rest of India. This came on the back of the Anna Hazare movement against corruption which saw the emergence of the Aam Aadmi Party and Kejriwal and the decimation of the Congress' image as a disgustingly corrupt party. An allegedly weak PM in MMS was thrust against 56 inch chested Modi. So, while the foundation was Hindu pride and anti-Pak nationalism, the main selling point was development.

By 2019, the term Godi media had been coined and almost all of India's media houses were in his control, directly or indirectly. The propaganda was massive and the fake success of the surgical strikes and the shady Pulwama attack on the eve of elections ensured a massive victory once again. So here, anti-Pak was significant, but it was still about the strength and power displayed by Modi that was pushed everywhere. That was the more significant selling point - that he had India's best interests in place and Pakistan was now scared to mess with Modi.

This time, so far, he has nothing to show for 10 years. The best he can claim is no Godhra-style riots under his watch. Sweetheart, how can there be something that you orchestrated, if you decide not to orchestrate it lol. But this is the best reason given by bhakts when questioned nowadays - India feels safer


Sorry old man. That's just not good enough anymore. You're going down.

And so too are your bhakts. Friendly reminder. Don't step out on results day.

 

[pillionrider]

Oh forgot to add the main video earlier. By now, any sensible person who isn't hooked to Godi media knows that the entire Anna Hazare joke movement was an RSS event.

 

[JaDed]

There were easy ways to keep BJP out when in 1984 they had what one seat?

- Congress are Muslim appeasers when they keep away from Sharia, and allow Polygamy but keep asking majority religion to keep state and religion separate.
Shah Bano case is on them, they literally fueled the entire BJP narrative.

- Congress also goes out of the way to speak against Hindutva terror but keeps mum on terrorism when it happened under their rule.

If Congress wants to keep state and religion separate they should had done that with UCC but they constantly support status quo for Muslim personal law.

The reason I’m bringing congress is because they are the opposition.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Better foreign reserves, better infrastructure, never going to IMF, high FDI, more R and D.

Narsima rao was that guy.

 

[pillionrider]

There were easy ways to keep BJP out when in 1984 they had what one seat?

- Congress are Muslim appeasers when they keep away from Sharia, and allow Polygamy but keep asking majority religion to keep state and religion separate.
Shah Bano case is on them, they literally fueled the entire BJP narrative.

- Congress also goes out of the way to speak against Hindutva terror but keeps mum on terrorism when it happened under their rule.

If Congress wants to keep state and religion separate they should had done that with UCC but they constantly support status quo for Muslim personal law.

The reason I’m bringing congress is because they are the opposition.

Agree on everything but UCC. No one knows what the UCC will eventually look like, but do you realize many Hindu communities will be negatively affected by it too?

 

[JaDed]

Narsima rao was that guy.

Yes and he didn’t want Sonia gandhi.

 

[JaDed]

Agree on everything but UCC. No one knows what the UCC will eventually look like, but do you realize many Hindu communities will be negatively affected by it too?

Yes but if you want to keep state and religion separate Congress had golden chances to do this so many times.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Poll added Guys!

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If performance was so successful, why would the BJP need to resort to anti-Pakistan/anti-Muslim rhetoric during election times? I said this yesterday in the other thread about Modi's speech calling Muslims infiltrators.

To be fair, even Congress have had to resort to the same tactics in previous elections. Seems like to win Indian vote, anti-Muslim rhetoric is quite a key factor.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

If performance was so successful, why would the BJP need to resort to anti-Pakistan/anti-Muslim rhetoric during election times? I said this yesterday in the other thread about Modi's speech calling Muslims infiltrators.

To be fair, even Congress have had to resort to the same tactics in previous elections. Seems like to win Indian vote, anti-Muslim rhetoric is quite a key factor.

Thankfully no such rhetoric attempts in Pakistan.

 

[Mockingbird]

If performance was so successful, why would the BJP need to resort to anti-Pakistan/anti-Muslim rhetoric during election times? I said this yesterday in the other thread about Modi's speech calling Muslims infiltrators.

To be fair, even Congress have had to resort to the same tactics in previous elections. Seems like to win Indian vote, anti-Muslim rhetoric is quite a key factor.

Anti-Pakistan rhetoric is fair game. We don’t exactly get praises from the other side of the border.

However absolutely doesn’t make sense to abuse our own Muslim population. They are an integral part of our country. Just because you don’t get votes from them, doesn’t mean you can abuse or demean them.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Yes and he didn’t want Sonia gandhi.

That's another thing bro

 

[MP2011]

Oh forgot to add the main video earlier. By now, any sensible person who isn't hooked to Godi media knows that the entire Anna Hazare joke movement was an RSS event.

Good points.

1) Always knew it. Even at that time that Hazare was just a sanghi stooge.

2) Same is true for that fake baba, Ravi Shankar.

3) Kejriwal must have been repenting in jail now that how come he allowed himself to be a puppet of these sanghis.

 

[MP2011]

However absolutely doesn’t make sense to abuse our own Muslim population. They are an integral part of our country. Just because you don’t get votes from them, doesn’t mean you can abuse or demean them.

Bigot has been doing this since his Gujarat days, this is not something which is new to him.

 

[JaDed]

That's another thing bro

He trusted BJP more than his own party..
He was sidelined by Congress and got a Bharat Ratna under Modi.

You are literally asking Indians to choose Indian Bilawal.

 

[MP2011]

Agree on everything but UCC. No one knows what the UCC will eventually look like, but do you realize many Hindu communities will be negatively affected by it too?

There are so many tribes and communities in India which will have to be exempted from UCC, that is if it is ever fully implemented in India. Then what's the point?

Every man knows why UCC is even talked about, and only in sanghi ruled states.

 

[MP2011]

He trusted BJP more than his own party..
He was sidelined by Congress and got a Bharat Ratna under Modi.

You are literally asking Indians to choose Indian Bilawal.

Lol, this regime has totally undermined the Bharat Ratna. If a rioter like Advani could get it, what is its value?

You and I both know why PVN was given Bharat Ratna posthumously. Certainly not due to feku had some special affinity for him.

 

[JaDed]

There are so many tribes and communities in India which will have to be exempted from UCC, that is if it is ever fully implemented in India. Then what's the point?

Every man and his dog knows why UCC is even talked about, and only in sanghi ruled states.

Tribes are not same thing as religion.

Indian Muslims are third highest population in the world, any reason for them to have rules which are not there for Hindus since 1955? Didn’t Congress reform Hinduism in 1955? If yes then Congress is the one that has always brought in religion , BJP is only an after effect.
They blatantly went out of their way to appease Muslim during Shah Bano.

 

[MP2011]

Natwar Singh was sidelined by Congress and he started bad mouthing Sonia. Doesn't mean a thing.

Pranav Mukherjee too had geniune grouse against Congress' first family. Even Madhavrao Scindia had it.

 

[JaDed]

Lol, this regime has totally undermined the Bharat Ratna. If a rioter like Advani could get it, what is its value?

You and I both know why PVN was given Bharat Ratna posthumously. Certainly not due to feku had some special affinity for him.

Rajiv Gandhi killed Sikhs too , he has terrible comments to back it up do you want to know things named after him? He got Bharat Ratna in 1991

 

[JaDed]

Natwar Singh was sidelined by Congress and he started bad mouthing Sonia. Doesn't mean a thing.

Pranav Mukherjee too had geniune grouse against Congress' first family. Even Madhavrao Scindia had it.

Sidelined by Congress is not the same as sidelined by Gandhi clan

 

[MP2011]

Rajiv Gandhi killed Sikhs too , he has terrible comments to back it up do you want to know things named after him? He got Bharat Ratna in 1991

Rajiv Gandhi didn't live long enough to commit more mistakes against mankind. His political career was what, just 7-8 years old. While Advani tormented India for decades.

 

[Mockingbird]

There are so many tribes and communities in India which will have to be exempted from UCC, that is if it is ever fully implemented in India. Then what's the point?

Every man and his dog knows why UCC is even talked about, and only in sanghi ruled states.

UCC as a concept is great, I really don’t see why any country should have different laws for different religions/communities. One country, one law - you can’t talk about secularism & argue against UCC without sounding hypocritical.

Also, why should any community get exemptions under UCC?

 

[MP2011]

Sidelined by Congress is not the same as sidelined by Gandhi clan

I stand corrected. He was sidelined by Gandhi clan.

 

[MP2011]

UCC as a concept is great, I really don’t see why any country should have different laws for different religions/communities. You can’t talk about secularism & argue against UCC without sounding hypocritical.

Also, why should any community get exemptions under UCC?

But they'll. You just wait and watch. Already so many tribes are being talked about getting exemptions in the UCC act.

 

[MP2011]

UCC as a concept is great, I really don’t see why any country should have different laws for different religions/communities. One country, one law - you can’t talk about secularism & argue against UCC without sounding hypocritical.

Also, why should any community get exemptions under UCC?

Also knowing feku's track record and the obnoxious statements coming out of sanghi CMs makes you wonder their seriousness in this matter.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Sidelined by Congress is not the same as sidelined by Gandhi clan

Jashwant Singh was sidelined by BJP too mainly because of Modi.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Rajiv Gandhi killed Sikhs too , he has terrible comments to back it up do you want to know things named after him? He got Bharat Ratna in 1991

Rajiv Gandhi also killed thousands of Tamilians by supporting the Sri Lankan government, which brutally executed ethnic cleansing. In return, sympathizers of Prabakaran killed him in Perambur.

 

[JaDed]

Rajiv Gandhi didn't live long enough to commit more mistakes against mankind. His political career was what, just 7-8 years old. While Advani tormented India for decades.

His kin lives and is ruling..

 

[JaDed]

Jashwant Singh was sidelined by BJP too mainly because of Modi.

So was Modi.. Jaswant can’t tie N Rao’s shoe laces.

Only ones that don’t respect N Rao are the Gandhi clan

 

[pillionrider]

He trusted BJP more than his own party..
He was sidelined by Congress and got a Bharat Ratna under Modi.

Why do you think the Gandhi circle were suspicious of Rao?

The Babri Masjid demolition happened under his watch. It's an open secret that he looked the other way for the most part of it.

And as far as Bharat Ratnas handed out by Modi, lol, you're being naive if you think they hold any real value. The Congress/Gandhis have definitely been poor in whom they've given it to and whom they've sidelined. But they've been out of power for a decade and we are talking of Modi and how fair he apparently is - or so your post suggests.

Advani wanted to be PM but lost out to Modi thanks to Rajnath Singh engineering a coup of sorts. His next best hope was to be President. When the wind began to sweep in his favor, the Babri and other cases against him were reopened under Modi, quashing these hopes. Modi then gave Vajpayee the Ratna when he was pretty much in a vegetative condition. So it was of no real use to him. The whole show of love for Vajpayee, not just with the Ratna, was aimed at making Advani squirm and salivate. Why? All because he stood against Modi's candidature as PM. The ironic bit about this whole thing is that it was Advani who stood by Modi when Vajpayee wanted him out after the Godhra riots. Advani had Bal Thackeray's support in this matter who'd predicted back then, that Modi would help the BJP rise to power with a bigger mandate. So, if anyone was hated by Modi, it was Vajpayee and giving him the Ratna was a private joke for Modi to chuckle over.

Then Modi gives the Ratna to Advani when the latter can barely stand or speak a word. I mean, it's crazy if you think these awards have any kind of sincerity behind them.

Modi is a narcissistic sociopath and that's all there is to it. Also, the most corrupt PM ever. Jail awaits

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Modi wants to turn India’s election into a Hindu-Muslim war

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) have decided that they will contest this seven-phase national election as champions of Hindu interests. They have also made it clear that protecting Hindu interests means protecting them from Muslims.

According to them, the Hindu majority face danger as the opposition Congress party is conspiring with the Muslim community to rob them of their wealth and entitlements and hand them over to Muslims.

On Sunday, the prime minister told a rally in Rajasthan that if the opposition comes to power, it will take Hindus’ wealth and give it to those “who have more children”, clearly referring to Muslims. He then went on to call the Muslim community “infiltrators”.

Modi’s comments caused outrage in some quarters. Citizens and organisations from across the country have asked the Election Commission of India (ECI) to take action against him for his hate speech.

The rights group People’s Union of Civil Liberties has even demanded that Modi be disqualified from contesting elections for that overt communal incitement.

These reactions did not result in any change of rhetoric; in fact, the prime minister doubled down two days later.

On Tuesday, in his address at another election rally in Rajasthan, Modi once again claimed that the Congress was conspiring to take the wealth of Hindus and distribute it among “select” people.

To ensure that there was no ambiguity, Modi went on to suggest that the Congress was going to take away the share of reservations – or quotas in education, employment, government schemes etc – for backward classes, scheduled castes, and tribal people and give it to Muslims. This was a clear attempt to scare the backward and Dalit sections of the Hindu electorate into voting for the BJP.

Source: Al Jazeera

 

[JaDed]

Why do you think the Gandhi circle were suspicious of Rao?

The Babri Masjid demolition happened under his watch. It's an open secret that he looked the other way for the most part of it.

And as far as Bharat Ratnas handed out by Modi, lol, you're being naive if you think they hold any real value. The Congress/Gandhis have definitely been poor in whom they've given it to and whom they've sidelined. But they've been out of power for a decade and we are talking of Modi and how fair he apparently is - or so your post suggests.

Advani wanted to be PM but lost out to Modi thanks to Rajnath Singh engineering a coup of sorts. His next best hope was to be President. When the wind began to sweep in his favor, the Babri and other cases against him were reopened under Modi, quashing these hopes. Modi then gave Vajpayee the Ratna when he was pretty much in a vegetative condition. So it was of no real use to him. The whole show of love for Vajpayee, not just with the Ratna, was aimed at making Advani squirm and salivate. Why? All because he stood against Modi's candidature as PM. The ironic bit about this whole thing is that it was Advani who stood by Modi when Vajpayee wanted him out after the Godhra riots. Advani had Bal Thackeray's support in this matter who'd predicted back then, that Modi would help the BJP rise to power with a bigger mandate. So, if anyone was hated by Modi, it was Vajpayee and giving him the Ratna was a private joke for Modi to chuckle over.

Then Modi gives the Ratna to Advani when the latter can barely stand or speak a word. I mean, it's crazy if you think these awards have any kind of sincerity behind them.

Modi is a narcissistic sociopath and that's all there is to it. Also, the most corrupt PM ever. Jail awaits

Advani wasn’t allowed to be PM but BJP wasn’t going anywhere under him.

Congress isn’t in power but they are trying to come to power under Gandhi clan, they need to first democratise their party before talking about BJP.

These awards might be for namesake but lost value only because Rajiv Gandhi got one.

Congress can remove Gandhi clan and ppl ll atleast listen to them, they are still kings and queens.

 

[JaDed]

Modi wants to turn India’s election into a Hindu-Muslim war

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) have decided that they will contest this seven-phase national election as champions of Hindu interests. They have also made it clear that protecting Hindu interests means protecting them from Muslims.

According to them, the Hindu majority face danger as the opposition Congress party is conspiring with the Muslim community to rob them of their wealth and entitlements and hand them over to Muslims.

On Sunday, the prime minister told a rally in Rajasthan that if the opposition comes to power, it will take Hindus’ wealth and give it to those “who have more children”, clearly referring to Muslims. He then went on to call the Muslim community “infiltrators”.

Modi’s comments caused outrage in some quarters. Citizens and organisations from across the country have asked the Election Commission of India (ECI) to take action against him for his hate speech.

The rights group People’s Union of Civil Liberties has even demanded that Modi be disqualified from contesting elections for that overt communal incitement.

These reactions did not result in any change of rhetoric; in fact, the prime minister doubled down two days later.

On Tuesday, in his address at another election rally in Rajasthan, Modi once again claimed that the Congress was conspiring to take the wealth of Hindus and distribute it among “select” people.

To ensure that there was no ambiguity, Modi went on to suggest that the Congress was going to take away the share of reservations – or quotas in education, employment, government schemes etc – for backward classes, scheduled castes, and tribal people and give it to Muslims. This was a clear attempt to scare the backward and Dalit sections of the Hindu electorate into voting for the BJP.

Source: Al Jazeera

Al jazeera trying so hard , wonder if their masters Qataris prefer submissive Gandhis.

Easy to rule Congress from outside i suppose.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Al jazeera trying so hard , wonder if their masters Qataris prefer submissive Gandhis.

They are just showing the mirror to Modi.

 

[JaDed]

They are just showing the mirror to Modi.

Is the mirror made of Qatari hypocrisy?

 

[gani999]

I find it hilarious when Pakistanis think that they matter so much in the Indian psyche that Indian politicians need to insult them to woo their voters. It reeks of insecurity. The truth is that Pakistan matters zilch in the daily life of the average voter in UP, Rajasthan, Bihar, MP or any other Indian state.
As for Indian muslims, the matter is different. Muslims are India's largest religious minority and number more than 200 million. In fact, they even decide the electoral outcome in some constituencies. For decades, the Congress and leftists have mollycoddled India's muslims to gain their votes, while dividing the Hindu majority into castes to ensure that they don't vote as one block. All it took was one powerful Hindu leader to change the game and that happened with Modi.

Modi is simply playing the game that the Congress and the left were playing all these years. He just tweaked the rules of engagement a little bit.

If not for the Congress and their brand of dirty politics, India would not have had a BJP or Modi.

 

[Rajdeep]

How many threads on Indian politics?

1. Indian Politics - news and updates
2. PM Modi's reference to muslims shows his true face
3. Narendra Modi mega discussion thread
4. Can Rahul Gandhi become next PM?
5. Indian election 2024 discussion thread
6. Can Indian election be rigged?

and now this thread whether BJP owe its success to Pakistan.

The obsession I tell you.

In India forum, there is only 1 election thread on Indian election....LOL

Me searching for a Pakistan related thread here in PP

 

[pillionrider]

Al jazeera trying so hard , wonder if their masters Qataris prefer submissive Gandhis.

Easy to rule Congress from outside i suppose.

Where is @CricketCartoons. I'm going to have credit him with converting you lol. And seemingly without any carrots haha.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

How many threads on Indian politics?

1. Indian Politics - news and updates
2. PM Modi's reference to muslims shows his true face
3. Narendra Modi mega discussion thread
4. Can Rahul Gandhi become next PM?
5. Indian election 2024 discussion thread
6. Can Indian election be rigged?

and now this thread whether BJP owe its success to Pakistan.

The obsession I tell you.

In India forum, there is only 1 election thread on Indian election....LOL

Me searching for a Pakistan related thread here in PP

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And interesting thing you love all of them.

 

[JaDed]

Where is @CricketCartoons. I'm going to have credit him with converting you lol. And seemingly without any carrots haha.

Haha naw i have always picked on Al jazeera.

 

[Rajdeep]

And interesting thing you love all of them.

Why not?

When I was in college, one of my friend wore a T-shirt on which the following was written - 'Learn how to entertain an idiot'

That quote has become the directive principle of my life.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Why not?

When I was in college, one of my friend wore a T-shirt on which the following was written - 'Learn how to entertain an idiot'

That quote has become the directive principle of my life.

Good to see you keep yourself entertained and happy all the time.

 

[Hitman]

How many threads on Indian politics?

1. Indian Politics - news and updates
2. PM Modi's reference to muslims shows his true face
3. Narendra Modi mega discussion thread
4. Can Rahul Gandhi become next PM?
5. Indian election 2024 discussion thread
6. Can Indian election be rigged?

and now this thread whether BJP owe its success to Pakistan.

The obsession I tell you.

In India forum, there is only 1 election thread on Indian election....LOL

Me searching for a Pakistan related thread here in PP

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Look at the positive. It keeps things extremely entertaining for us Indian posters. Would you have preferred barely any threads on topics involving India?

 

[Rajdeep]

Look at the positive. It keeps things extremely entertaining for us Indian posters. Would you have preferred barely any threads on topics involving India?

Totally. Love this forum and that is why we are always here 24/7 flying Bhaarat's tiranga high .

Also love brother @The Bald Eagle, easily the best mod here.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Totally. Love this forum and that is why we are always here 24/7 flying Bhaarat's tiranga high .

Also love brother @The Bald Eagle, easily the best mod here.

A very big compliment bro. Thanks

 

[Mockingbird]

But they'll. You just wait and watch. Already so many tribes are being talked about getting exemptions in the UCC act.

Then that will completely dilute the law. Also unfair

How many threads on Indian politics?

1. Indian Politics - news and updates
2. PM Modi's reference to muslims shows his true face
3. Narendra Modi mega discussion thread
4. Can Rahul Gandhi become next PM?
5. Indian election 2024 discussion thread
6. Can Indian election be rigged?

and now this thread whether BJP owe its success to Pakistan.

The obsession I tell you.

In India forum, there is only 1 election thread on Indian election....LOL

Me searching for a Pakistan related thread here in PP

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Yeah, somebody should give OCIs to these Pak/Brit-Pak guys - they honestly care more about India & its politicians than we do

I too don’t understand why we need multiple threads. Yeah we get it- Modi is a bad guy. His party is racist. All true. But you don’t get to chose him- and no amount of venting will get his supporters to stop voting for him. So, what’s the point?

 

[MP2011]

His kin lives and is ruling..

No they are not, for last decade at least.

 

[BouncerGuy]

You gotta admit that Anti-pakistan stuff has done some wonders for BJP. Can aNybody prove me wrong here?
There is a big role of ANti-pakistan and anti-muslim drive in India in the success of modi IMO.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Oh absolutely, BJP would not win a seat wasn't for a broke Pakistan living in IMF bailouts.

If some Pakistanis take comfort in knowing their country is useful in someway by thinking Pakistan is the reason for BJP being in power in India, I am all for it.

 

[Romali_rotti]

And interesting thing you love all of them.

Yeah bro, very interesting considering all threads he highlighted are Indian and he himself is Indian.

So I am quite shocked an Indian liking Indian threads..

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

No doubt about it.

 

[Devadwal]

I already cast my vote for Congress ( knowing BJP most likely win ) on 19 April but don't think local population care about Pakistan angle.
I love modi but still never voted BJP .

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I already cast my vote for Congress ( knowing BJP most likely win ) on 19 April but don't think local population care about Pakistan angle.
I love modi but still never voted BJP .

May I ask why you love Modi but don't vote BJP?

I'm assuming it's because you prefer your local party candidate to the BJP candidate

 

[Local.Dada]

Things like economic numbers etc these days have 2 narratives. I will leave it to people’s judgement or even their own research to figure out India’s reach in finance and trade or what India’s stature is as an economy these days.

Apart from that

BJP promised Ram Mandir in its manifesto- it delivered

Promised removal of article 370-delivered

Its digitalization program has been extremely successful

agree with it or not, it will also claim success for space program (Chandrayaan etc)

Pakistan is pretty much a non-entity for the BJP. The current economic or other political situation in Pakistan has nothing to do with India, it is its own doing. The script writes its self for the BJP. Pakistan situation provides plenty of material for them but its not really used in any agenda or there is no real policy when it comes to Pakistan.

It’s surprising though, clearly some of you consume Indian news and content. along with all the Modi is killing minorities etc etc type of stuff so I am sure you ran into some positives too. Form your own judgement instead of asking the same juvenile questions over and over again and the same type of elementary arguments.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Al jazeera trying so hard , wonder if their masters Qataris prefer submissive Gandhis.

Easy to rule Congress from outside i suppose.

But your compatriot @Hitman was just saying yesterday that India has great relations with all Muslim countries bar Pakistan. So why would Al Jazeera care about Indian elections?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I find it hilarious when Pakistanis think that they matter so much in the Indian psyche that Indian politicians need to insult them to woo their voters. It reeks of insecurity. The truth is that Pakistan matters zilch in the daily life of the average voter in UP, Rajasthan, Bihar, MP or any other Indian state.
As for Indian muslims, the matter is different. Muslims are India's largest religious minority and number more than 200 million. In fact, they even decide the electoral outcome in some constituencies. For decades, the Congress and leftists have mollycoddled India's muslims to gain their votes, while dividing the Hindu majority into castes to ensure that they don't vote as one block. All it took was one powerful Hindu leader to change the game and that happened with Modi.

Modi is simply playing the game that the Congress and the left were playing all these years. He just tweaked the rules of engagement a little bit.

If not for the Congress and their brand of dirty politics, India would not have had a BJP or Modi.

Lol, gani bro joins joshila bhai in writing immaculately paragraphed essays on how Pakistan matters zilch to Indian voters.

 

[Local.Dada]

Lol, gani bro joins joshila bhai in writing immaculately paragraphed essays on how Pakistan matters zilch to Indian voters.

Who said it doesn’t matter? It of course matters as a cautionary tale for Indians. In most families there is always one f-up who becomes a poster child of what not to be. I am not talking about the Pakistani people obviously but the government and economy or even the diplomatic situation. So yes it matters definitely. Better answer for you?

 

[MP2011]

Another tangible proof that the only reason sanghis win elections is religious polarization. They don't have any performance to speak about so all they do is speak Hindu-Muslim 24x7.

 

[MP2011]

I can only hope that Kannadigas don't give a single vote to these bigots and teach them a lesson of lifetime but I also know it won't happen. Such is the scale of indoctrination in them especially in urban areas.

 

[Mockingbird]

I can only hope that Kannadigas don't give a single vote to these bigots and teach them a lesson of lifetime but I also know it won't happen. Such is the scale of indoctrination in them especially in urban areas.

Tough chance that will happen- I can only talk from personal experience. My huge extended family is from Karnataka (though I was born & raised in Mumbai) & all I can see and read in the family whatsapp group is overwhelming support for BJP with a couple of outliers. Dont forget - Karnataka has a history of anti-incumbency & not electing the same government twice in a row, so going by trends BJP should be back in power there pretty soon.

 

[Hitman]

Don't think they have any particular affiliation with RaRa. It's just that they hate Modi and BJP from heart and consider him the reincarnation of satan, and they believe RaGa is the lesser evil. Regardless, that is what democracy is. We all have the right to vote for who we want.​

 

[Local.Dada]

Don't think they have any particular affiliation with RaRa. It's just that they hate Modi and BJP from heart and consider him the reincarnation of satan, and they believe RaGa is the lesser evil. Regardless, that is what democracy is. We all have the right to vote for who we want.​

There are so many ways they can counter BJP with facts and figures but most use the same rhetoric “2002 riots” “genocide” “butcher” type juvenile arguments. i can understand the average Pakistani who doesn’t understand complicated electoral process in India due to lack of a democratic system in their country or the average British-Pakistani who are known not to participate that much in the democratic process of their own country or in the larger issues of their country except for things like minority rights, Gaza etc which may not appeal to the larger population.

I can understand on PP, however same arguments are used by Indian Modi critics online too for good or bad, so the narrative has become anyone who hates Modi is Pakistani or anti-national. So even the legit grievances get buried. I am not a 100% Modi Bhakt either but all you need is a little basic common sense to see there is no real
Alternative.

 

[Hitman]

i can understand the average Pakistani who doesn’t understand complicated electoral process in India due to lack of a democratic system in their country or the average British-Pakistani who are known not to participate that much in the democratic process of their own country or in the larger issues of their country except for things like minority rights, Gaza etc which may not appeal to the larger population.

Best part of your post

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Best part of your post

I agree. What makes it the best part is he spent all that time typing out veiled insults at both home based Pakistanis and Brits of Pakistani origin, and yet he along with his hindutva brethren are camped here 24/7. If it was just hatred of Paks it would be one thing, but you know with the unrequitted love for Israel that the hatred is for all Muslims including those living in their own country.

 

[JaDed]

But your compatriot @Hitman was just saying yesterday that India has great relations with all Muslim countries bar Pakistan. So why would Al Jazeera care about Indian elections?

I said it already easier to rule over Congress than BJP , Congress is like Pakistani Establishment, BJP wants equality.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I said it already easier to rule over Congress than BJP , Congress is like Pakistani Establishment, BJP wants equality.

Sorry, no idea what you mean by that or what it relates to.

 

[JaDed]

Sorry, no idea what you mean by that or what it relates to.

Let me break it down:

America prefers Pakistani Establishment and Bhuttos and shariffs, so they keep posting against Imran Khan.

Qataris have good relationship with India but its on equal footing they prefer slaves like Gandhi.