Does Joe Root deserve to be part of Fab 4 anymore?

[Joseph Gomes]

Hasn't been too impressive in WC, been average in test for past 3 years. Does he really deserve to be on par with Kohli, Williamson and Smith?

Kohli is the undisputed GOAT in bilateral ODIs and WT20, decent in non KO World Cup matches and great in test (has match winning ton in England)

Williamson is decent in bilateral, Champion in WC (got MoT, nuff said), and great in test (multiple match winning away tons in both UAE and SL)

Smith...a legit GOAT contender. Has 100+ average in WC KO matches (3 fifties and a ton in 4 matches), and modern Bradman in test (smashed England, SA and India away...). Poor in bilateral but Aussies don't care about that.

Now Root...he is good or great in everything but not exceptional in anything. I see him as the same as Warner, jack of all trades but master of none.

Does he still deserve to be called a Fav 4? Maybe it should be renamed it to Fav 3?

To me, Fav 4 title has to be earned, while Root might have got it on merit in past, he doesn't deserve it anymore.

 

[Slog]

He’s definitely the #4 on it.

I’d say let’s see how ashes goes

 

[Slog]

For me right now it’s:

Overall:
Kohli=Smith (I would put Smith #2 if he doesn’t average 60+ in ashes)
Williamson
Root

Tests:
Smith
Kohli
Williamson
Root

ODI:
Kohli
Williamson
Smith
Root

 

[Ab Fan]

Yes, he is. Behind other three but still belongs to fab four.

A prolific run scorer, plays lots of tests and lots of ODIs,never easy as a batsmen to keep scoring big.

He is a top player and he will reinvent himself with bat.Personally, he may had to end up with 4th position as other three already have created some sort of legacy but Root might also end up with 12k+ tests runs and 10K runs in ODIs.

 

[Aman]

He can't lead a team's batting line up, the other 3 are all batting leaders who the rest take inspiration from.

 

[Shazzam]

He is a overhyped Englishmen. Doubt he is the best batsmen of his team.

 

[Ab Fan]

He can't lead a team's batting line up, the other 3 are all batting leaders who the rest take inspiration from.

This I agree. He is not inspirational and can't lead the team with his performance. Ben Stokes has arguably been more important to England than Root.

 

[Abdullah]

He just scored 500 runs in the world cup and he rarely fails. He is damn consistent.
His is a conversion problem.
Number 4 on the list

 

[Hawkeye]

In ODIs at least, Babar Azam seems to be at the same level or ahead.

 

[Robert]

He is a overhyped Englishmen. Doubt he is the best batsmen of his team.

Yeah, the one who averages 49 when nobody else averages more than 35 is clearly not the best in the team.

 

[Hasan123]

May not be as good as the other but PP talk as if he is some club level batter. He does have a match winning century in South Africa, has won a game against Australia at home in 2015 , and some other decent knocks. Seems to be out of form.

 

[Rellu_Katta]

in LOI, he isnt even in top10... Kholi, Sharma, Babar, Smith, Williamson,Butler,Warner,Finch,Hetymar, Stokes, Roy, Bairstow, (not in this order though) all are above him and some ....

in test, you can argue him being no4 but will be repleaced in there too very soon

 

[HitWicket]

in LOI, he isnt even in top10... Kholi, Sharma, Babar, Smith, Williamson,Butler,Warner,Finch,Hetymar, Stokes, Roy, Bairstow, (not in this order though) all are above him and some ....

in test, you can argue him being no4 but will be repleaced in there too very soon

By what measure are the likes of Smith, Williamson and Hetmyer better LOI batsmen than him.

 

[Ram Shekhar]

He surely does. If there's anyone undeserving it's the pretender who always fails in knockout games.

1. Smith
2. Williamson
3. Root
4. Babar

Yes, Babar is better than some so called great players because he scored in the most important matches his team needed him in. He can move to #3 if he can improve his test record which I'm sure he will. He's too good to not do so.

 

[andy0204]

If he bats like that he will not be in fab4,I mean till he scores 50 he looks good as soon as after that he looks vulnerable.

 

[Ab Fan]

Yes, he does.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

3 ducks in this Ashes, not a single century...

 

[Rellu_Katta]

Root is for sure, down and out for good.. his confidence is shattered, under lot of pressure and will be even more under pressure if the lost ashes ...

for LOI.... he isnt in top 4 for england, let alone the world

so down and out for good.. maybe no7/8 in tests now

 

[Robert]

This "Fab 4" is confected millenial nonsense. Where did it start, some teenager magazine?

Back in the nineties we had the FLAB 4 of Inzi, Botham, Gatting and Ranatunga! Those were the days!

 

[Varun]

Moral of the Story: Never include anybody from England in any contemporary 'greats' list.

He'll usually fizzle out like a badly made Diwali pataka while his counterparts from other countries will soldier on across successful 10-15 year careers.

 

[Aman]

It's the Fab Two if we're being honest.

 

[Gilly]

Walk into every team though.

 

[Gilly]

For me right now it’s:

Overall:
Kohli=Smith (I would put Smith #2 if he doesn’t average 60+ in ashes)
Williamson
Root

Currently averaging 134.

 

[Danyaalr01]

My weighting for formats would be
Test: 65%
ODI: 30%
T20I: 5%

That probably puts Smith at number 1, Kohli at 2, Williamson at 3 and Root only just makes it at 4. But the gap between Williamson and Root at the moment is quite large. Babar is quickly catching up with Root. If Babar performs in the Australia, Sri Lanka and England test series, he will be at 4.

 

[Shazzam]

He is very overrated.

 

[James]

He’s still a very good player as he showed in the World Cup. And his knock in the Ashes at Headingley was valuable.

But no doubt he is no longer a consistent batsman or reliable scorer and he has gone backwards.

Relieve him of the captaincy and his average will start increasing again.

 

[big_gamer007]

There's no fab 4.

It's the glorious 1 in tests. Smith is on another planet compared to anyone else.

In ODI's Kohli is ahead of everyone else but difference is not as big as Smith Vs rest in tests.

So all this media hype or fab 4 is rubbish. There's no fab 4.

 

[Danyaalr01]

If Root wasn't in any of the Big 3 teams, he wouldn't get that much hype. He would still be regarded as a good player, but he would probably get as much attention as Faf Du Plessis, who I reckon is better than Root and has been consistent year after year while also playing on more difficult pitches.

 

[Gilly]

If Root wasn't in any of the Big 3 teams, he wouldn't get that much hype. He would still be regarded as a good player, but he would probably get as much attention as Faf Du Plessis, who I reckon is better than Root and has been consistent year after year while also playing on more difficult pitches.

Faf is a fine player but not in the class of Root.

 

[jnaveen1980]

He had issues with conversions. Now he has issues with starts. I think he is not that bad a player. I have seen him play consistently well. Probably going through a rough patch. He will come back.

 

[FreePalestine]

Who is at 5 & 6 atm?

 

[dildilpak]

Clearly captaincy doesn’t suit him, we should see his average improve once he is relieved of test captaincy.

But on current form & considering his awful conversion rates, he doesn’t deserve to be in Fab 4 - the other 3 are way ahead of him & it will need a monumental effort from him to catch-up.

 

[Hasan123]

He’s a very good player but he isn’t in the class of Smith and Kohli. That doesn’t make him a rubbish player or ovverated.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

He had issues with conversions. Now he has issues with starts. I think he is not that bad a player. I have seen him play consistently well. Probably going through a rough patch. He will come back.

He's been out of form for 2 years though. 2 whole years.

 

[JaDed]

In tests there is only fab#1, would had been nice if he was the captain as well to win Ashes in England nevertheless cheating got him , so he didn’t deserve that honor.

 

[JaDed]

In tests there is only fab#1, would had been nice if he was the captain as well to win Ashes in England nevertheless cheating got him , so he didn’t deserve that honor.

 

[Danyaalr01]

Faf is a fine player but not in the class of Root.

Faf is not better, but is more consistent than Root.

 

[Gilly]

Faf is not better, but is more consistent than Root.

Who is telling you this stuff, Faf is not more consistent than Root other than he consistently scores less runs than Root.

 

[kingusama92]

In Tests, it's definitely Fab 1 now.

Overall, it's become Fab 3 (Kohli, Smith, Williamson) with Kohli at #1.

Joe Root likely needs to give up the captaincy so he can focus on becoming a run machine. He's clearly good enough but the other three are sprinting ahead of him.

 

[Danyaalr01]

Who is telling you this stuff, Faf is not more consistent than Root other than he consistently scores less runs than Root.

I'm talking about recent times. When Root is in form, he is miles ahead of Faf. I was just saying that Root would have gotten as much, or slightly more attention than someone like Faf or Ross Taylor, because, at the moment, he is way behind the rest of the fab4.

 

[AdeelSabih]

Fab 3 (Kohli, Smith, Williamson) with Kohli at #1.

It is bold to put Kohli at #1. What is your rationale for that?

 

[Ram Shekhar]

This "Fab 4" is confected millenial nonsense. Where did it start, some teenager magazine?

Back in the nineties we had the FLAB 4 of Inzi, Botham, Gatting and Ranatunga! Those were the days!

So true, after all it was coined by certain someone called Martin Crowe. What does he know? He is just a poor New Zealander... Pedestrian English posters on this forum have more knowledge than him.

But he was wrong after all, wasn't he? Root is as useless as some of his English predecessors. Full hype, no substance. Mentally weak. Manages to lose to the weakest West Indies those poor guys ever managed to field. He should just retire . Useless player.

 

[Ram Shekhar]

Talking about poor New Zealanders, one of those is responsible for the greatest peak English cricket ever achieved, even if not deserved. At least the English posters should stay humble for this contribution. But hey, expect them to post gibberish like they always do.

 

[kingusama92]

Fab 3 (Kohli, Smith, Williamson) with Kohli at #1.

It is bold to put Kohli at #1. What is your rationale for that?

Kohli is a well-rounded batsman across all three formats. He's scored everywhere in Tests, ODIs, and T20Is.

Smith's ODI average away from home is 29.74. That's below-par. His T20I average is also 21.55. If he was Pakistani, Smith would get roasted as nothing more than a Test specialist.

Smith deserves his spot as king in Tests but there's more to modern-day batting than that. I can't put him ahead of Kohli considering how consistent the Indian captain is.

 

[Ram Shekhar]

Kohli is a well-rounded batsman across all three formats. He's scored everywhere in Tests, ODIs, and T20Is.

Smith's ODI average away from home is 29.74. That's below-par. His T20I average is also 21.55. If he was Pakistani, Smith would get roasted as nothing more than a Test specialist.

Smith deserves his spot as king in Tests but there's more to modern-day batting than that. I can't put him ahead of Kohli considering how consistent the Indian captain is.

Please tell me you're joking. Steve Smith is a champion and scored important century in 2015 semifinals. Tell me one such important innings that pretenders Kohli or Root played? When the pressure is ON, Kohli fails like there is no tomorrow. Root is so inferior, I would not even discuss him.

Steve Smith is so much better than any contemporary batsman, it is not even a joke. His only comparison is with the greatest of the greats in Donald Bradman and Viv Richards. Please don't insult him by comparisons with average jacks.

 

[Aman]

Talking about poor New Zealanders, one of those is responsible for the greatest peak English cricket ever achieved, even if not deserved. At least the English posters should stay humble for this contribution. But hey, expect them to post gibberish like they always do.

Need to move on and hope this was for some other reason. No way can god be this cruel unless it's meant lead to something better.

Still hoping this is the catalyst for the next generation and leads us to win multiple World Championships.

 

[Ram Shekhar]

Need to move on and hope this was for some other reason. No way can god be this cruel unless it's meant lead to something better.

Still hoping this is the catalyst for the next generation and leads us to win multiple World Championships.

Stay strong brother. If there's any country that can comeback from such a low and still excel, it's New Zealand. Kane Williamson is destined for greatness, if he's not a great already.

 

[Aman]

Stay strong brother. If there's any country that can comeback from such a low and still excel, it's New Zealand. Kane Williamson is destined for greatness, if he's not a great already.

Pressure is on the All Blacks, if they three-peatt this will be a lot easier to take for the country.

A lot of NZ fans will forget it, it's only those who are a big cricket fans who will be hurt by it.

If they lose, this will be a tragic year sporting wise.

 

[Ram Shekhar]

Pressure is on the All Blacks, if they three-peatt this will be a lot easier to take for the country.

A lot of NZ fans will forget it, it's only those who are a big cricket fans who will be hurt by it.

If they lose, this will be a tragic year sporting wise.

I see, all the best to the All Blacks!

I think England cricket was destined to take 2019. It's funny how Smith just twisted the entire script to make it more colorful. We would have never heard the end of it had England won the Ashes this year. God, thank you.

 

[TalhaSyed]

For me right now it’s:

Overall:
Kohli=Smith (I would put Smith #2 if he doesn’t average 60+ in ashes)
Williamson
Root

He is now in a position that he could get 2 golden ducks at The Oval and still average 96 - unbelievable.

 

[Mamoon]

What sets Kohli apart is that he has 43 hundreds in ODIs, which is utterly remarkable. Smith, Root and Williamson collectively have 37 hundreds.

While Smith is undoubtedly the best Test batsman today and possibly ever, he is only 1 head of Kohli when it comes to hundreds and 6 ahead of Williamson.

Overall, he has almost the same number of international hundreds as Root and Williamson, and is far behind Kohli.

It is pretty obvious that when you take all formats into consideration, Kohli is far and beyond the best batsman in the world. No one comes close.

Yes his knockouts record is not great and Smith has outshone him on that front, but overall, he is levels above Smith in ODIs for this to even be a factor.

At the end of the day, Smith only has 8 ODI hundreds which is embarrassing for a batsman of his stature and caliber. Even Hafeez has scored more hundreds.

The notion that bilateral ODIs are meaningless makes no sense. Smith doesn’t underperform in bilateral ODIs because he doesn’t care; he underperforms because he is not very good in this format.

As far as Root is concerned, he is still be a top quality batsman and you just have to watch him play to see how good he is. Yes he hasn’t been very prolific in the last three years, but comparison him to a clearly inferior player like Du Plessis is in poor taste.

In spite of his recent slump, he is still arguably as good as Williamson who is emphatically overrated here because of his good guy image and the general likability of the New Zealand team. Undoubtedly a very good batsman, but also nowhere near the likes of Kohli in any format and Smith in Tests.

 

[Slog]

What sets Kohli apart is that he has 43 hundreds in ODIs, which is utterly remarkable. Smith, Root and Williamson collectively have 37 hundreds.

While Smith is undoubtedly the best Test batsman today and possibly ever, he is only 1 head of Kohli when it comes to hundreds and 6 ahead of Williamson.

Overall, he has almost the same number of international hundreds as Root and Williamson, and is far behind Kohli.

It is pretty obvious that when you take all formats into consideration, Kohli is far and beyond the best batsman in the world. No one comes close.

Yes his knockouts record is not great and Smith has outshone him on that front, but overall, he is levels above Smith in ODIs for this to even be a factor.

At the end of the day, Smith only has 8 ODI hundreds which is embarrassing for a batsman of his stature and caliber. Even Hafeez has scored more hundreds.

The notion that bilateral ODIs are meaningless makes no sense. Smith doesn’t underperform in bilateral ODIs because he doesn’t care; he underperforms because he is not very good in this format.

As far as Root is concerned, he is still be a top quality batsman and you just have to watch him play to see how good he is. Yes he hasn’t been very prolific in the last three years, but comparison him to a clearly inferior player like Du Plessis is in poor taste.

In spite of his recent slump, he is still arguably as good as Williamson who is emphatically overrated here because of his good guy image and the general likability of the New Zealand team. Undoubtedly a very good batsman, but also nowhere near the likes of Kohli in any format and Smith in Tests.

Smith has one more century in 14 fewer innings...

 

[Shazzam]

Stay strong brother. If there's any country that can comeback from such a low and still excel, it's New Zealand. Kane Williamson is destined for greatness, if he's not a great already.

Don’t think this is true. If it was true New Zealand would have won multiple ICC championships. This would work for a team like Australia.

 

[Ab Fan]

Talking about poor New Zealanders, one of those is responsible for the greatest peak English cricket ever achieved, even if not deserved. At least the English posters should stay humble for this contribution. But hey, expect them to post gibberish like they always do.

Greatest peak in the sense, you mean World Cup?

 

[Ab Fan]

Kohli and Smith are undisputed ATGs and prolific run scorers with the bat.

Kane is a clutch batter and a brilliant leader who knows how to carry himself. However, in term of batting, he is several levels below Kohli in ODIs/T20s and Smith in Tests.

Root is a very good test bat and a very good ODI bat.

My rankings on 10 for them would be:-

Kohli- 9.5
Smith- 9
Kane- 8
Root- 7.5

Tests:-

Smith- 10
Kohli- 9
Kane- 8.25
Root- 7.25

 

[Mamoon]

Smith has one more century in 14 fewer innings...

Which is why he is clearly better in Tests, but the gulf between them in Limited Overs is even greater.

 

[leatherface58]

Just because he is having a crappy time right now doesn't mean he is not a quality player. Captaincy clearly does not suit him unlike Williamson or Kohli. Bowlers have worked him out and he clearly cannot bat at 3. He should go back to 4 where he got most of his career runs.

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

It's monotonous now. You cant be a great batsman if you cant make big scores.

 

[Ab Fan]

He really is a mis-fit in a weak lineup. Too much concentration lapse.

 

[Ab Fan]

Meanwhile, he became third youngest ever to reach 7000 test runs, only behind Alastair Cook and Sachin Tendulkar.

 

[The Viper]

His technique is nowhere near as good as it was a few years ago. He is giving way too many chances.

He may have hit fifty, but not fluent at all.

 

[Rellu_Katta]

Root doesnt deserve to be called part of the big 4 ... his innigs today was shockingly bad.... lost all confidence .. too bad

 

[shaz619]

He is a terrific batsman just a bad captain, a world cup winner and champion batsman; what a glorious tournament he had bringing the big one home, how many of the other weaker fab 4 can claim that ? a bunch of pansies besides Smith really

 

[James]

He is still an A-class batsman, just needs to be free of the captaincy and bat at four; at 28, his peak years will be coming up very soon, so he needs to make these changes quickly.

 

[Varun]

He is a terrific batsman just a bad captain, a world cup winner and champion batsman; what a glorious tournament he had bringing the big one home, how many of the other weaker fab 4 can claim that ? a bunch of pansies besides Smith really

I'm confused. Are you calling Root a "terrific batsman" or a "*****"?

 

[Rellu_Katta]

Root as an odi player is hugely over-rated.. the guy comes after the Roy/Bairstow bombarment ... has abs no pressure to score quick, knows morgan stokes and BUTLER are to follow and not to forget the likes of Woakes and Mo-Ali and plunket and rashid who are better than many front line batsmen in many teams lol ... so has 0 pressure.. and even then he isnt scoring tht many important runs... highly over rated

its a shame bcz at 1 point he was my fav in the so called fab4 but now doesnt merit tht ....

 

[Ab Fan]

He is a terrific batsman just a bad captain, a world cup winner and champion batsman; what a glorious tournament he had bringing the big one home, how many of the other weaker fab 4 can claim that ? a bunch of pansies besides Smith really

It's quite weird and actually funny in many ways, both Root and Williamson failed in World Cup final, Root ended up as a WC winner but actually it was Williamson who stole all the show that night, won the player of the tournament and also enhanced his legacy.

 

[Suleiman]

There's no fab 4.

It's the glorious 1 in tests. Smith is on another planet compared to anyone else.

In ODI's Kohli is ahead of everyone else but difference is not as big as Smith Vs rest in tests.

So all this media hype or fab 4 is rubbish. There's no fab 4.

I agree. There is no competition in the 3 formats, there’s one guy who is dominant and the rest are a rung or two below him.

 

[Aman]

It's monotonous now. You cant be a great batsman if you cant make big scores.

This.

He's not a good batting leader - 50s don't win you matches, when was the last time he even scored a century?

 

[Ab Fan]

Root's performance by batting position:-

At No.3:- 47 innings, 2 hundreds AVG 38

At No.4:- 61 innings, 7 hundreds AVG 48

At No.5:- 29 innings, 6 hundreds AVG 71

If a No.3 is good enough only to hit two hundreds in 47 test innings, then he is not your best bat in the team and if he is the best possible that you can offer, then he should not be batting at that position.

 

[Shazzam]

The guy is bad as they come. Overhyped batsmen who was nothing special to begin with.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

The guy is bad as they come. Overhyped batsmen who was nothing special to begin with.

This might be the truth. Maybe he hit a purple patch early in his career, like Mike Hussey did?

 

[shaz619]

It's quite weird and actually funny in many ways, both Root and Williamson failed in World Cup final, Root ended up as a WC winner but actually it was Williamson who stole all the show that night, won the player of the tournament and also enhanced his legacy.

Root is world famous and world champion, a winner and legend held in the highest regard, Williamson's legacy will be not being able to get over the line when it mattered most, if being a loser equals enhancing his legacy then Mr Nicey Nice did just that

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Babar Azam will end up as a better batsman than Root. Mark this post.

 

[Mamoon]

Root is world famous and world champion, a winner and legend held in the highest regard, Williamson's legacy will be not being able to get over the line when it mattered most, if being a loser equals enhancing his legacy then Mr Nicey Nice did just that

It is amazing how gentleman Williamson gets away with a crap record in England, India and South Africa while Root is micro-analyzed.

 

[shaz619]

It is amazing how gentleman Williamson gets away with a crap record in England, India and South Africa while Root is micro-analyzed.

Williamson also gets extra favour in these parts for his relation with Pakistan in general. The English in general are always hated but we don't care, I highly doubt Root was bothered by the criticism while he slept with the World Cup. A terrific batsman, just needs a little break and play as a specialist moving forward. We have been overly reliant on him and many greats have gone through similar phases, but he is joy to watch and has been largely consistent; the same folk criticising him would accept him in their chosen teams in a heart beat if it came to it but he is the wrong skin tone, maybe he should grow a beard; may win some followers, as much as I love Mo who I feel has done wonders for the game over here and won many games for us but it's just true.

 

[Mamoon]

Williamson also gets extra favour in these parts for his relation with Pakistan in general. The English in general are always hated but we don't care, I highly doubt Root was bothered by the criticism while he slept with the World Cup. A terrific batsman, just needs a little break and play as a specialist moving forward. We have been overly reliant on him and many greats have gone through similar phases, but he is joy to watch and has been largely consistent; the same folk criticising him would accept him in their chosen teams in a heart beat if it came to it but he is the wrong skin tone, maybe he should grow a beard; may win some followers, as much as I love Mo who I feel has done wonders for the game over here and won many games for us but it's just true.

The pandering to Williamson is getting a little annoying now. It was a joke to see him win the player of the tournament ahead of Stokes. It was simply a pity award for him and New Zealand. The whole world knows that Stokes was the best and most clutch player at the World Cup by miles.

To be fair to Williamson, even he was surprised at the decision. I have nothing against him, but his fans overrate him massively because they admire his personality.

As far as Root is concerned, he is an elite batsman. Yes he is not as prolific as he was pre-2017 but he is still one of the best in the world and there is no doubt about it.

However, he doesn’t seem to be the right fit for captaincy. His best years are ahead of him and it is time for him to bat at four without the burden of leading the team.

O. Pope is ready for Test cricket and he should bat at 3. As far as captaincy is concerned, I still think Buttler is the right man. He has suitable temperament and the responsibility of leadership could have a positive impact on him.

 

[shaz619]

The pandering to Williamson is getting a little annoying now. It was a joke to see him win the player of the tournament ahead of Stokes. It was simply a pity award for him and New Zealand. The whole world knows that Stokes was the best and most clutch player at the World Cup by miles.

To be fair to Williamson, even he was surprised at the decision. I have nothing against him, but his fans overrate him massively because they admire his personality.

As far as Root is concerned, he is an elite batsman. Yes he is not as prolific as he was pre-2017 but he is still one of the best in the world and there is no doubt about it.

However, he doesn’t seem to be the right fit for captaincy. His best years are ahead of him and it is time for him to bat at four without the burden of leading the team.

O. Pope is ready for Test cricket and he should bat at 3. As far as captaincy is concerned, I still think Buttler is the right man. He has suitable temperament and the responsibility of leadership could have a positive impact on him.

It was definetly a pity award and everyone ate it up, no one will remember that; only the world champions and the players who won the tournament for their country.

Root will be back for sure but I don't know about Butler, if he is up for it; I'd be open to Morgan making a return and assuming the lead responsibility, that may not be practical however so I would go with Broad for now while we groom Woakes.

 

[Ab Fan]

Root is world famous and world champion, a winner and legend held in the highest regard, Williamson's legacy will be not being able to get over the line when it mattered most, if being a loser equals enhancing his legacy then Mr Nicey Nice did just that

I myself consider Root a part of fab four and an elite batsmen like the other members of the fab four.

But if I remember well, you only made the thread to sack Root from test captaincy as he is clueless really. In contrast, Mr.Nicey got the player of series award for his batting as well as captaincy in WC and bats and captains his team at no.3 in tests. The numbers seems to have risen only after captaincy.

 

[Aman]

It is amazing how gentleman Williamson gets away with a crap record in England, India and South Africa while Root is micro-analyzed.

Isn't Root still on 2 away 100s?