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England (247) beat Pakistan (195) by 52 runs in the 2nd ODI to take unassailable lead in the series

Time to try out Dahani Wasim Imran Khan sharjeel Fawad
We simply don’t have batting or spin talent in the country
 
mastimasti said:
A bit of a disgraceful batting performance now....there could be excuses for Cardiff and England second xi is pretty good BUT this is now terrible. A complete lack of knowledge on how to play here. What was coaching doing for the last 10 days ?
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Should just stop playing cricket against England, Aus, New Zealand, India and SA
 
Saud was blocked out for far too long by Misbah. "He's good for youngsters"... yeah right!
 
When its helpful bowling conditions batsmen need to fight it out for first few overs in ODIs. But babar showed poor technique for these conditions while rizwan was batting like he had a rat in his pants
 
Poor batting at the top once again.

Basic technical errors resulting in wickets.
 
mastimasti said:
A bit of a disgraceful batting performance now....there could be excuses for Cardiff and England second xi is pretty good BUT this is now terrible. A complete lack of knowledge on how to play here. What was coaching doing for the last 10 days ?
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Fakhar has actually improved technically.

Plays more in the V
 
I'm not worried about Faks slow rate, he can't afford to give his wicket away cheaply, this total is very attainable - ghab ra nahi
 
Our batter's movements looking too slow as if they are facing 200kph thunderbolts. They are in the middle of their shots while 135kph deliveries are swinging past their bodies and bats.

Seems like they've been told to play it late and they are being extra obedient.

Show some heart, come out of the crease and play on front foot to negotiate movement, and drink some tea maybe. These are school cricket errors that everyone can see. Only Saud has looked a bit confident.

I don't mind Fakhar taking as much time as he would like today cause he has the pedigree to make it up for it later on.

Imam, Babar and Rizwan have been disappointing.

Our best player of swing ie Haris is out injured.
 
Well, the thing with PCT is they can beat any top ranked team and struggle to beat even a B side depending on the day. But Babar, Rizwan, Fakhar have been consistent for sometime now and it is not much of a stretch to expect them to do well in this series. Yes, they have failed in this series and that's unexpected. I still rate this Pak team highly.

Usman Chadda said:
These same batsmen struggled to post 140 against Zimbabwe just recently. Anyone who expected them to do well here was kidding themselves.
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Fakhar is a hack. That is not how a batsman gets out of pressure. dancing blind down the wicket
 
Kroll said:
I'm not worried about Faks slow rate, he can't afford to give his wicket away cheaply, this total is very attainable - ghab ra nahi
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Thing is, more chances are that he's going to give his wicket away which will be fatal for Pak. That is why this approach makes no sense.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Our batter's movements looking too slow as if they are facing 200kph thunderbolts. They are in the middle of their shots while 135kph deliveries are swinging past their bodies and bats.

Seems like they've been told to play it late and they are being extra obedient.

Show some heart, come out of the crease and play on front foot to negotiate movement, and drink some tea maybe. These are school cricket errors that everyone can see. Only Saud has looked a bit confident.

I don't mind Fakhar taking as much time as he would like today cause he has the pedigree to make it up for it later on.

Imam, Babar and Rizwan have been disappointing.

Our best player of swing ie Haris is out injured.
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Haris as in Haris Sohail? Best player of the moving ball?
 
like the look of Saud Shakeel, compact technique and is looking to always score runs. Plus he's got the FC record (almost 50) to justify a long initial run.
 
Fakhar wants to bat till the 50th over this time & make up for the joburg loss..he don’t trust a single Pak batsman
 
Jeetlodil said:
Fakhar is a hack. That is not how a batsman gets out of pressure. dancing blind down the wicket
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He needs someone to talk to him. He's mentally shot. Only playing with the full face of the bat to everything. Needs to rotate strike
 
Disgraceful innings from Fakhar. What happens when you have a hack on the top of the order.

He will perform on his day on good pitches however when conditions are tough this will happen.
 
Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan

One of the worst ODI top 4 I have seen for a while.

Imam still carrying around the same technical issues he debuted with.

Rizwan twice showing how technically inept he has always been and why all of a sudden playing of flat Asian decks doesn’t make him into Bradman. He is a fluke cricketer at the top as he swings and goes over third man. Saud on the other hand looks so much at ease batting compared to Rizwan who has struggled big time.

Babar has had a shocker so far….


As I rant the 4th of these flops goes.

Only managed ten runs…..

Imam 1
Fakhar 10
Babar 19
Rizwan 5?


Astaghfirullah
 
mastimasti said:
A bit of a disgraceful batting performance now....there could be excuses for Cardiff and England second xi is pretty good BUT this is now terrible. A complete lack of knowledge on how to play here. What was coaching doing for the last 10 days ?
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Makes sence why so many young paks don't care about cricket anymore.
 
Saud can fail 10 times but looks to have tools to become success at internationals. Should play tests as well but no vacancy.
 
Abysmal is a soft term to describe the performance of these 11 maskharaas.
 
Abdurmirr said:
Disgraceful innings from Fakhar. What happens when you have a hack on the top of the order.

He will perform on his day on good pitches however when conditions are tough this will happen.
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team should give him a standing ovation. what a master class of 45 balls
 
Abdurmirr said:
Disgraceful innings from Fakhar. What happens when you have a hack on the top of the order.

He will perform on his day on good pitches however when conditions are tough this will happen.
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No way are you blaming Fakhar Zaman. The team was 3 down, with 1 batsman left coming after him. What do you want him to do?

Imam ul Haq is the culprit once again, the stabiliser that destabilised the Pakistan innings.
 
Even the women’s cricket team of England can beat them . This is the lowest point in Pak cricket history. No Misbah can’t be blamed for this.
 
England has simply been a much better team so far in the series. Other than somewhat decent bowling effort today in different phases, Pak team is yet to arrive in England.
 
For the third ODI

Should give Sharjeel
Hafeez
Sarfraz
Hasnain
Qadir a go if I am honest.
 
What is shocking is that Fakhar kept doing the same thing over and over again until he failed. He kept going at everything with hard hand and with the full face of the bat. Never shuffled across to rotate strike... Play with soft hands and roll his wrists or whatever.

It was actually a very very stupid innings from him.
 
Pakistan desperately need both star all rounders Shadab and Faheem to get quarter-centuries today , 25-30 runs from both will not win Pakistan the game but will make the score more respectable and avoid it looking one sided result again.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
No way are you blaming Fakhar Zaman. The team was 3 down, with 1 batsman left coming after him. What do you want him to do?

Imam ul Haq is the culprit once again, the stabiliser that destabilised the Pakistan innings.
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by that logic Saud should be 1 run of 10 balls. One has to move on. It is not test cricket
 
Play late and straight is the mantra for batting in England. But all of pak batsmen have gone out pushing at the ball
 
This could be blessing in disguise. Finally Misbah will be exposed and his hiding win against SA minnow team will be highlighted soon. Pakistan are good T20 team but terrible ODI now. Don’t know who can fix Pakistan odi struggle.
 
Maher96 said:
Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan

One of the worst ODI top 4 I have seen for a while.

Imam still carrying around the same technical issues he debuted with.

Rizwan twice showing how technically inept he has always been and why all of a sudden playing of flat Asian decks doesn’t make him into Bradman. He is a fluke cricketer at the top as he swings and goes over third man. Saud on the other hand looks so much at ease batting compared to Rizwan who has struggled big time.

Babar has had a shocker so far….


As I rant the 4th of these flops goes.

Only managed ten runs…..

Imam 1
Fakhar 10
Babar 19
Rizwan 5?


Astaghfirullah
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Rizwan scored OK in NZD if memory serves right and somehow managed to not nick behind in NZD. Also did not get out in the short / catching cover region which is a possible mode of his dismissal for him given he drives from underneath the ball.

His poking and jumping around is catching up with him now.
 
People are really out here blaming Fakhar Zaman, when the team was 3 down with one batsman left🥴

They call him a hack yet he survived longer than the “stabiliser”🤭🤫
 
May as well try to take the attack to the opposition here. No point in just defending and waiting for that one ball to get you out here
 
One of these two need to counter attack now. You can't go into a shell on wickets like these.
 
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