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England (247) beat Pakistan (195) by 52 runs in the 2nd ODI to take unassailable lead in the series

One can only laugh at the fans who were predicting a 2-1 series win for Pakistan even against the main England team. :)))

We truly have the most deluded fans in the world. They live in a world of their own.
 
I wonder if ECB maybe faked that Covid thing just to let main players rest and avoid Pakistan feeling insulted by intentionally naming a B team — this way they have done it as an emergency measure, but deep down they probably knew that the B team was enough to take care of this Pakistan team.
 
No points for surviving in ODI cricket sadly

I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy, they don’t blame the guy that was meant to hold the innings together, they blame the guy that lasted longer than the “stabiliser”, at least have a balanced view.
 
If England do win this match, its a great opportunity to test their bench strength the next match.
 
People are really out here blaming Fakhar Zaman, when the team was 3 down with one batsman left🥴

They call him a hack yet he survived longer than the “stabiliser”🤭🤫

Play your natural game - not only are we four down but the RRR is also climbing..
 
what pathetic nonsense is this against a D team

i know we suck too and should be 7-10 in rankings but that's against a top side
 
One can only laugh at the fans who were predicting a 2-1 series win for Pakistan even against the main England team. :)))

We truly have the most deluded fans in the world. They live in a world of their own.

Watching Saud bat so far?
 
Play your natural game - not only are we four down but the RRR is also climbing..

Why did Imam not play his natural innings, wasn’t he meant to stabilise the innings? Is he getting away with criticism because others are failing too?
 
Maybe England can rest Gregory, Stokes, Saqib and Vince for the final Odi and play their D side, then we could see a proper contest between England and Pakistan .
 
One can only laugh at the fans who were predicting a 2-1 series win for Pakistan even against the main England team. :)))

We truly have the most deluded fans in the world. They live in a world of their own.

You are right!!

I was deluded,,, now I know what else Misbah can achieve.. keep getting extensions, throw some players under the bus for his own shortcomings

It pains me to see, some of my Indian co workers here at US laugh whenever Misbah is around.. totally shameful
 
How do eng have so much talent?

Their revolutionized their white ball structure in the last 7-8 years including at player development at junior as well as domestic level, selection at domestic level and selection at international level. They based it upon the blue print they got from looking at successful teams and players in the format.

Its not impossible to achieve things with the whole structure/ system works in an integrated manner with a common goal in mind.
 
You are right!!

I was deluded,,, now I know what else Misbah can achieve.. keep getting extensions, throw some players under the bus for his own shortcomings

It pains me to see, some of my Indian co workers here at US laugh whenever Misbah is around.. totally shameful

Pakistan lost 30 of its last 40 ODIs under Mickey. It has nothing to do with Misbah.

The players lack talent and mental strength.
 
Imagine, West Indies also announcing their Zth squad against us... and btw this series made sure England XI (whatever that is will arrive in Pakistan, may be their next to next 11)
 
I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy, they don’t blame the guy that was meant to hold the innings together, they blame the guy that lasted longer than the “stabiliser”, at least have a balanced view.

Fakhars innings did more damage to Pakistan than Imam's. Only fair he gets more of the blame
 
How do eng have so much talent?

Proper system and structure in place that provides top notch training. Only possible with adequate financing in place.

Days of Pak plucking talent from the trees are long gone. Can't compete with this sort of machinery.
 
In an another ideal world, Rizwan may still be next to come in. Saud and Maqsood for 4 and 5
 
Most importantly its the line up which is not correct combination is very bad.

Fakhar Zaman
Rizwan should open
Shoaib Maqsood can be tried
Babar Azam
Imam ul haq
Saud Shakeel
Shadab
Fahim
Usman
Hassan ali
Shaheen
 
These are pretty ordinary by England standards, only Pak D grade cricketers are making them look like world beaters.

In my opinion most of these guys can make the main XIs of mid tier teams like SA, Pak and some even for Aus and above.

Eng’s talent pool in white ball cricket can only somewhat be matched by India at the moment. NZ have done extremely well with their resources and in terms of work they have put in they are right up there, they only have limited population and player base so they are a bit behind.
 
Oh, Saud looks a serious player. Showed good range of shots in that over.

He’s been doing OK so far. Has maybe gone little in his shell post Fakhar’s wicket.

On the other hand one of those ugly inside out hoicks from Sohaib (to third man) reminded of the ~2015 days.
 
Saud looks like Kohli under the helmet.

I mean his looks….

Maqsooodayyyyy his enjoying it…
 
You are right!!

I was deluded,,, now I know what else Misbah can achieve.. keep getting extensions, throw some players under the bus for his own shortcomings

It pains me to see, some of my Indian co workers here at US laugh whenever Misbah is around.. totally shameful

Watching videos of him doing throw downs during training will have the fans swooning over him again.
 
Brilliant from Maqsood. Now see the pressure slowly shift onto England.

Bit too late I guess. They should have shown the intent from the start considering that they have seen how the surface played and the most successful partnership was formed by Salt and Vince who went after the bowlers.
 
The approach is good. One may not succeed but this is the approach required in most situations
 
Need a big Maqsood innings today win or lose.

Just take it easy.

Both of these have the opportunity to nail down their spots. Given PAK’s lack of depth even 80 ball 60s will seal the deal for them regardless of the outcome of the game. They can bat for themselves.
 
Bit too late I guess. They should have shown the intent from the start considering that they have seen how the surface played and the most successful partnership was formed by Salt and Vince who went after the bowlers.

If Pakistan hasn't learnt this by now, there's no hope. We've seen this story repeat for years now.
 
Bit too late I guess. They should have shown the intent from the start considering that they have seen how the surface played and the most successful partnership was formed by Salt and Vince who went after the bowlers.

That is why these players need to come on before RIzwan. Give confidence to your batsmen. Dont push them down
 
Bit too late I guess. They should have shown the intent from the start considering that they have seen how the surface played and the most successful partnership was formed by Salt and Vince who went after the bowlers.

248 is not a big target. RRR is still barely above 6.
It's just a matter of one good partnership.
 
Exactly what I was thinking. How embarrassed would you feel seeing newbies easily scoring while you, an experienced player, couldn't buy a run to save your life!

I think the plan possibly was to survive first 10 overs for 40/50 without losing much wickets. They didnt take into account the techniques of batsmen and the conditions werent ideal to play a survivor today.
 
The approach is good. One may not succeed but this is the approach required in most situations

It never wins many matches in the current era of big scores though. England are twice the team since they ditched the cowards mindset and started playing attacking cricket.
 
Saud playes on and off side sooo beautifully.

What a player. The hype was rightzz
 
How elegantly Saud has been playing. Guys has been robbed 2-3 years of his career.
 
When Saud is driving he reminds you a lot of M Yousuf.

This kid is talented and will do well if he gets a long run, especially in test cricket.
 
I hope they dont mess up Saud with their policies. A technically decent young batsman who is pleasing to the eye and a handy 6th bowling option.
 
I don’t support this team.

A talentless and mentally weak team does not deserve my support.


Then why do you complain when we get happy when they are winning? We know they are a middle tier team but we enjoy cricket.
 
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