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England [287 & 180] beat India [274 & 162] by 31 runs in first Test to take 1-0 series lead

Sharma did not nick that - if there was a faint edge it would have shown a small spike.

Plus it look like he missed it and there was no 2 noises.
 
Other indian batsmen need to man up. No point calling yourself batsmen if kohli has to carry you all the time.
 
Regardless of the result, it's been a dreadful attempt to bat with the tail from Pandya
 
Hardik's calculation is risky but its not totally illogical. He expects the Indian tail ender to negotiate the spinner but not the pacer. He wants strike against pace for himself.
 
English stokes vs Indian stokes. The stokes are high here.
 
Madplayer said:
Hardik's calculation is risky but its not totally illogical. He expects the Indian tail ender to negotiate the spinner but not the pacer. He wants strike against pace for himself.
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There is no calculation. He has no clue what to do.. :akhtar he is just waiting for Yadav to get out
 
Madplayer said:
Hardik's calculation is risky but its not totally illogical. He expects the Indian tail ender to negotiate the spinner but not the pacer. He wants strike against pace for himself.
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That would be believable if he didn't give strike to ishant after the first ball facing the pacers
 
They need to attack pandya as well. No reason why he cant edge it. Engalnd making same mistake like last innigs ?
 
Pandya unfortunately played only to keep his place alive for the rest of the series (and that affects the balance of the team again!)
 
No point in blaming pandya for defeat. We desis just like to criticize the last man standing & forget the top order batsmen. It is the top order KL rahul( who has got lot of hype on PP as well), Murali vijay & dhawan who have cost india this match. Why does Kohli have to carry them in every match?
 
Ridiculous from Pandya

You should take a single off the fourth ball. Why wait for the fifth? If he can play one ball, then he can play two
 
RamLakhan said:
Pandya unfortunately played only to keep his place alive for the rest of the series (and that affects the balance of the team again!)
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Pandya is about to win you this game!
 
Root giving him the single off the fifth ball beats Pandya for stupidity here.....
 
TQ89 said:
No point in blaming pandya for defeat. We desis just like to criticize the last man standing & forget the top order batsmen. It is the top order KL rahul( who has got lot of hype on PP as well), Murali vijay & dhawan who have cost india this match. Why does Kohli have to carry them in every match?
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I don't blame pandya for the loss but for being a spineless selfish coward who doesn't care if his team wins or loses as long as it doesn't hurt this average.
 
root will lose the match . pathetic captain. Hardik has the chance to do a dhoni/inzimam here
 
TQ89 said:
No point in blaming pandya for defeat. We desis just like to criticize the last man standing & forget the top order batsmen. It is the top order KL rahul( who has got lot of hype on PP as well), Murali vijay & dhawan who have cost india this match. Why does Kohli have to carry them in every match?
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I'd say Rahane has to shoulder the biggest share of the blame.
He's allegedly our best overseas test batsman.
 
Anderson will come back vs Pandya sooner or later.
 
jagatk said:
I don't blame pandya for the loss but for being a spineless selfish coward who doesn't care if his team wins or loses as long as it doesn't hurt this average.
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This is the same rhetoric we pak fans heard about misbah while our top order continuously failed & was routinely carried by him & Younis bhai for more than five years. This is just making him a scapegoat while ignoring the weak links in the top order. It is the same in odis. You take kohli & rohit sharma out in limited overs & I doubt this team can even win at home.
 
The last time we chased a 4th innings total overseas was Adelaide 2003.

The record stands.
 
You can't help but feel this was India's best chance to win on this tour. Malan will be gone next game, and England will likely bring in a right hander in place of him.
 
I think the better team in the match won. You cant win a test match with 1 person batting unit
 
There we have it. Terrific back and forth contest. Kohli can't keep pulling rabbits out of a hat - the other Indian batsmen must back him up.
 
So England vs Virat Kohli. England 1 Kohli 0

What changes should Kohli make in the second test?

Che Pu in for Rahane? Pant in place of Karthik? Kuldeep in the squad somehow?
 
England loves to carry momentum when playing at home. I have a feeling that they will beat india mercilessly throughout the other test matches.
 
I would say India lost the match more than England wins it here. England will get better now in series and they will find way to handle kohli too. Other batsman will struggle badly now for us.
 
TQ89 said:
This is the same rhetoric we pak fans heard about misbah while our top order continuously failed & was routinely carried by him & Younis bhai for more than five years. This is just making him a scapegoat while ignoring the weak links in the top order. It is the same in odis. You take kohli & rohit sharma out in limited overs & I doubt this team can even win at home.
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There are many problems with this team but losing because of some failures is acceptable, what pandya did isn't. You should be trying to win games not better your average. Also given the fact that this team give or take a change or 2 has been invincible at home, you clearly don't know what your talking about.
 
I remember saying this yesterday if we looses then it's cause of drop catches of dhawan but if we wins then it's cause of drop catches of malan. I hope both hopefully played their last test of carrier.
 
jagatk said:
There are many problems with this team but losing because of some failures is acceptable, what pandya did isn't. You should be trying to win games not better your average. Also given the fact that this team give or take a change or 2 has been invincible at home, you clearly don't know what your talking about.
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Exactly. Just because you stayed till the end doesn't mean you can give strike to tail. Misbah did this too, and that's why he was called out.
 
First point: Well played India well played England

Second point: Indian pp’ers what do You make of India’s batting performance? It was basically Kohli or Nothing.

Third point: do You think there will be any changes for the second test? If so, which changes would You like to see??
 
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Gutted for Kohli, this team is Argentina to his Messi. Also, India's record chasing outside Asia is horrible, haven't chased 100+ for 20 years or so
 
If you had told me at the start of the day that Pandya would score 31, I would have taken it with both hands.

Then again I would have thought we would have chased it down.
 
jagatk said:
There are many problems with this team but losing because of some failures is acceptable, what pandya did isn't. You should be trying to win games not better your average. Also given the fact that this team give or take a change or 2 has been invincible at home, you clearly don't know what your talking about.
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How can you expect your all rounder to finish the match in 4th innings where your specialist batsmen are finding hard to score runs? The fact that he even came this far is impressive. He was trying his best to survive in a pretty bad situation & was very fluent when kohli was on the crease.
 
Worst painful defeats in Indian history -

96 wc semi final
99 chennai test
2001 CT final loss to NZ
2003 final loss
2004 test series loss to aus
2007 loss to bangladesh
2008 sydney test (cheated & bucknored out)
2011 4-0 test series loss to england
2012 home series loss to england
2015 semi final WC loss
2017 CT final loss
2018 SA first test chase fail
...Now this.

Batting needs total purge with ruthlessness.
 
Kohli is turning out to be a bit of a choker isn't he?:amir2


In all seriousness, he deserved to be on the winning side but should've batted till the end. 200 runs across 2 innings that all end up being meaningless in the end.
 
Varun said:
If you had told me at the start of the day that Pandya would score 31, I would have taken it with both hands.

Then again I would have thought we would have chased it down.
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Agree with it. My thinking is if karthik managed to survive a bit longer & score some 30 40 runs, India could gather momentum & kohli could then take the match away from england.
 
Dhawan is going to rue that dropped catch of Curran for a long time. Even with the ordinary batting this was India's match to win.
 
Drop Rahane. He is good for nothing. Cant play either spin or pace.
If Pant is in the squad bring him in place of Kartik. He will not do worse than Kartik.
 
Well the only good thing for India is that England lose at Lords. India 2014, Pak 2016 and Pak 2018. Plus No Stokes. Moeen Ali is not going to threaten India. Plus Stokes is a better batsman
 
TQ89 said:
How can you expect your all rounder to finish the match in 4th innings where your specialist batsmen are finding hard to score runs? The fact that he even came this far is impressive. He was trying his best to survive in a pretty bad situation & was very fluent when kohli was on the crease.
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If he didn't take single off the first ball trying to protect his average and got out next ball, i wouldn't have complained, as i said, this loss is not on him. We didn't lose because pandya is a coward, but i blame pandya for being a selfish coward and i want him out of my team.
 
Congratulations to England and their supporters pathetic performance from our batting.
 
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