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England [458 & 233] beat South Africa [361 & 119] by 211 runs in the 1st Test at Lord's

Rabada suspended ,wow test series to be boring now :facepalm: and as usual Moen and Root come to party at expected times.
Broad performing well ,only one to whom conditions don't matter,2-3 years left in the tank hopefully an Ashes win in Aus.

Can't believe Saffers messed this up after such a good start.
 
Still think SA will put around 350-400 tomorrow.

Should be interesting though.
 
Hoping for around 375. I honestly don't see us crossing 400 though.

Wonder if Graeme would have started the blockathon after 450+ was posted. Waste day 2, 3 and 5 for a comfy draw.
 
Philander can bat as well. New ball is due and that is where Proteas will be tested soon.
 
Still some batting left for South Africa. If De Kock can come in with South Africa 150 or less behind, anything is possible.
 
SAF must try to reduce the deficit to at least 100 and below. A lot rests on QDK, tail needs to stay with him.
 
Root has done first tactical blunder during his captaincy, Proteas were struggling with spin of moeen and dawson, yet he took the new ball and brief momentum is with South Africa now, however they still trail by 165 runs.
 
South Africa are still in the game, if they bowl Poms out for 170-200 odd in 2nd innings , then Amla playing a blinder, you never know.
 
There is some rain forecast for Monday, lets assume South Africa gets out right now, that leaves 55 overs left for today with a lead of 120. Poms play at 4 runs an over and score 220 at the end of day 3. That is lead of 340, we can assume Root will play 1st session tomorrow and declare with a lead of around 420-430. That will leave Proteas to negotiate 150 overs to save this test. Well very very hard task.
 
England would bat for 3 Sessions, set up a target of 400 and put in SA for four sessions.
 
Won't be wrong to say SA didn't played poor cricket given the fragility of middle order.
 
Philander has turned out to be a very useful prospect for SA. May be something like Mitchell Johnson both with bat and bowl.
 
South African tail has batted very well, half century by stubborn Philander and lead reduced to only 97. Proteas can bat out 4 sessions for draw but this pitch is deteriorating.
 
Lovely bowling from Moeen. First time I've seen him varying the pace so well. Seems to have learnt from the Indian tour.
 
Good stuff. England in the perfect position to push on for a win now.
 
Justcrazy said:
Philander has played really well so far.
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Just another black player free-riding the quota system. For all we know there is a better white player who could have topped world bowling rankings and smashed 50s but never got a chance because of dead weight like Philander and Rabada. Racist quotas are just killing South African cricket.
 
SA looking slightly up a certain creek and without a certain paddle at the moment. Way behind in the Test match and mounting injury concerns.
 
England's to lose.

There's only 10% chance of rain on Monday according to the Met Office who are the most reliable source of forecasts.

England may look to bat for another 2 sessions, get a 400+ lead and insert SAF in before stumps tomorrow so they get at least an hour to bowl at them.
 
It'll take some record for SAF to avoid defeat here. Still 180 overs left - I believe Poms will bat till 35 minutes before Tea & set SAF something like 450+ in 130+ overs.

If SAF bats through, they should win, therefore I do believe unless it rains for costing at least 2 hours, this match is going to have a direct result : 95% in favor of ENG. That 5% won't have been there if Adil was bowling here on Day 5.
 
England will win this game. I think 300 plus should be enough. But can see England taking the lead past 400, they won't be in a rush as they will want the pitch to deterioate further. Moen caused enough problems in the 1st innings. Expecting him to cause more problems on a pitch that is deteriorating further.
 
New Yorker said:
Just another black player free-riding the quota system. For all we know there is a better white player who could have topped world bowling rankings and smashed 50s but never got a chance because of dead weight like Philander and Rabada. Racist quotas are just killing South African cricket.
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:))) nice sarcasm :D.

Too much has been made of the quota system, it's good for SA cricket most likely, it encourages more of the population to get into cricket, as opposed to the rich white families (which isn't the players fault, that's just been the way it has been). And a larger talent pool = better cricketers. Just won't be overnight.

Always irritated me to no end when guys like Trott and KP used the quota system as an excuse. They just weren't good enough or unlucky not to get picked. Heck KP didn't even realise he was a proper batsman until he played county, before he was more an allrounder in SA, so not surprising he wasn't picked he wasn't as good then.
 
Great stuff, just saw a bad@ss shot of Moeen and Stuart Broad in their shades :)) [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION], Broad trying to hog the Beard's spotlight :yk
 
Looks fiendishly difficult to score out there now.

South Africa might get some brief joy with quick wickets today, but their batsmen are doomed.
 
Is that Root's 6th dismissal this Test? [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] :))

SA could have pushed England if they didn't give him so many lives.
 
Rabada keeping his mouth shut after dismissing Stokes again :))
 
If SAF can knock England over quickly here they'll leave themselves with an outside chance of winning.

I still think England are favourites as chasing 250+ on this deteriorating, slow, double paced wicket that's offering turn will be tough.
 
340 lead should be enough. 400 meanwhile would be near impossible to get on this pitch.
 
Sloppiest one yet. Did Vernon just drop the match?
 
This morning actually indicates how tough it's going to be for SAF in 4th innings. I think, they lost the Test when allowed Poms to reach 450+ from 190/5 or so. Probably, England already has enough on board.
 
ads101 said:
:))) nice sarcasm :D.

Too much has been made of the quota system, it's good for SA cricket most likely, it encourages more of the population to get into cricket, as opposed to the rich white families (which isn't the players fault, that's just been the way it has been). And a larger talent pool = better cricketers. Just won't be overnight.

Always irritated me to no end when guys like Trott and KP used the quota system as an excuse. They just weren't good enough or unlucky not to get picked. Heck KP didn't even realise he was a proper batsman until he played county, before he was more an allrounder in SA, so not surprising he wasn't picked he wasn't as good then.
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Actually, KP decided to move to U.K., when he lost his place in the Natal squad for someone named Ghulam Bodi. Definitely quota system hurting SAF cricket, but this is not new for them. They are trying to bring 85%+ community in cricket, which would need some sacrifice.
 
South Africa have been over the years a byword for discipline and professionalism.

However I've never seen them as sloppy in the field as they've been recently.
 
I think, Rabada, Phillander, Amla & Mahraj makes the SAF team on merit. Bavuma is borderline, but I do tend to agree that he is benefited from quota. Only undoubted quota pick is JP. FaF & AB for JP & Bavuma (& Styen for Morkel) - SAF would have been ok.
 
SA probably would have won this Test if they took their chances.

England 279/7 after SA let them off time and time again.
 
Unless he picks few in 2nd innings, Dawson should end his Test career with unique batting figures of 66*, 0 & 0 - average of 33 isn't that bad.
 
200 has been chased down at Lord's just three times (I was there when England got 277-3 against the Kiwis and Nasser brought up his hundred and won the match with the last shot of his career).

300 was chased down just once.
 
Now looking like England merely favourites to win, instead of 100% certain to win.

Much rather have this than a one-sided squash however.

After all the talk of a rained off draw. Probably won't be a Day 5 now lol. Or not much of one anyway.
 
shaz619 said:
Great stuff, just saw a bad@ss shot of Moeen and Stuart Broad in their shades :)) [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION], Broad trying to hog the Beard's spotlight :yk
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Didn't watch the morning session :mv
 
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The good old days of pitch invasions :*)
 
Useful runs there from Bairstow.. A 300+ target is simply a different deal than anything under 300. England back to being favourites.

SA would be hoping for something like Smith-esque from any of their top batters.Now that would increase the fun for sure.
 
About time Wood came to life in this match. Has been anonymous up to this point. Now needs to fully justify his selection by adding to these invaluable runs with some top order wickets.
 
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