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England v Australia | 2nd Test | Lords | 16-20 July 09

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Ponting has no brains.

Give the ball to M.Clarke or Katich, way better than this North joker
 
61.5 Hilfenhaus to Strauss, 3 runs, and there's the hundred for Strauss! He cuts it away behind point, McDonald on the boundary stops the four but three is enough and what a super innings it's been
Eng 255-2 after 62 overs @ 4.11
Last 10 ovs 45/1 RR 4.50
Strauss 100 off 178 - Pietersen 22 off 33
Tea time
 
I wonder why was Stuart Broad retained. He was completely innocuous in the first test. The English have got to bowl better in this test match.
 
Good captain's knock from Strauss, gets his ton at the stroke of tea.
 
even Warney agrees with me, Get on Katich and Clarke, do something different

Ponting really goes brain dead when things are not going his way
 
65.1 Siddle to Pietersen, OUT, got him! Terrific ball that moved away just a touch from Pietersen, drawn forward into a drive, and it took a thin outside edge to a diving Haddin behind the stumps

KP Pietersen c †Haddin b Siddle 32 (42b 4x4 0x6) SR: 76.19

Eng 267-3

Collingia of Durham pind in
 
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collingwood...holing out, simple catch to mid on....oh dear 302-4 and the new ball is due soon, will australia make a comeback?
 
hahahah

I had said this a 100 times, give the ball to Clarke. I was screaming at the end of the last test match.

My views are now validated. Clarke the man with the golden arm
 
Andrew Flintoff gets a massive roar and ovation as he walks out...its going to be quite funny if he gets out early yet again, id just love to ask what the hell all the hype is about...As it is though he gets off the mark with a boundary 321-5
 
GONE!! England lost a wicket on double nelson and now lose flintoff on 333...they are 6 wickets down now. Where is the standing ovation people?? come english crowd i want to hear the cheers :D
 
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Hilfenhaus to Flintoff, OUT, gone! The old ball works out for Hilfenhaus. A great outswinger takes the edge of Flintoff's bat and Ponting and second slip snaffles the opportunity

A Flintoff c Ponting b Hilfenhaus 4 (10b 1x4 0x6) SR: 40.00

England better score 500+ runs in 1st innings, there is plenty of time in this match and if AUS can get a significant lead in 1st innings then Eng will be in deep trouble
 
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This is most likely going to be a 4 day test.

Rain forecast for tomorrow.
 
Wassixpakistani said:
Ohhhh the flashbacks hurt..........
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Why? If anything its good to see some other team go through it as well, feels better that we arent the only ones. As it is though Im sure England will stabilise things, even if they dont post what they wanted...it certainly wont be as dramatic a collapse as us.
 
So then just under 2 overs left in the day now, can Australia grab one more wicket here?
 
Strauss finishing strongly, he is the difference here at the moment...364-6
 
Thats stumps on day 1, England had a chance to really runaway with this game with MJ looking out of it and Hauritz injured, but Australia fought back very strongly and I guess its even at this stage. Still England have scored 360+ in a single day and Andrew Strauss is 160 not out, so well done to them...should be an interesting morning tomorrow!
 
As an Addon to my last post, Englands RR was 4.04 thats super stuff for test cricket.
 
Great knock from Strauss, given his team the advantage on day 1. I thought we fought back well and stopped them from completely running away with it, but they've got a great chance to post 500 if the tailenders can stick around tomorrow. They batted fast as well which should help in getting a result.

We need to clean up the tail quickly and then try and overhaul this total.
 
Johnson, Hilfy, Siddle and Hauritz have been tried. Lee and Clarke left out. Lee and Clarke will eventually need a look in if the others remain below par.
 
Savak said:
Johnson, Hilfy, Siddle and Hauritz have been tried. Lee and Clarke left out. Lee and Clarke will eventually need a look in if the others remain below par.
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Someone needs to tell MJ that nobody's position is secure in this OZ side, not when you have two bowlers on the sidelines ready to step in. I don't know if this is complacency, but he needs to rediscover his yarpie form ASAP. Apparently he bowled well in the last session and started reversing the ball so he needs to keep at it. His first session was extremely ordinary.

Siddle has bowled hard but geez he's an unlucky bloke. Hilf has been good.

As for Horroritz, geez what a wuss he is. Why couldn't he catch that ball that dislocated his finger? If you're going to dislocate your finger you may as well get a wicket!!
 
Great knock from Strauss.

KP is apparently playing off the back of two injections and it shows, he doesn't look to be in great form nor in great shape physically. I'm not convinced he'd be playing if the opposition were anybody other than Australia. Fact is, I suppose, that even half-fit he's better than the next prat off the block.
 
Ponting is actually a crpa captain!

You have pup...you have Katich a wrist spinner but who do you go with?!

Why North of course! Jeez!
 
what i dont understand is why australia go with 4 bowlers, the attack is not strong enough for 4 bowlers they need 5, a geniuine allrounder in the 6 position
 
saj786 said:
what i dont understand is why australia go with 4 bowlers, the attack is not strong enough for 4 bowlers they need 5, a geniuine allrounder in the 6 position
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And where will we produce this "genuine allrounder" from? The only one who exists in the entire world is Kallizzz :28:
 
I don't appreciate the criticism of any batsmen today, they were high quality dismissals. The wickets of Bopara, Prior, Pietersen and Flintoff featured great attacking cricket from Australia. I hate hate hate armchair fans and critics who don't get that it's not always possible for players to score hundreds every day. Jonathan Agnew is a tool. I could even forgive Collingwood for 16 after he just kept the series score at nil f'ing nil! on his own!

Has anyone forgotten we scored at 4 an over on day one, we never do that. England fans ask for 4 an over then complain when we're 360-6! but they also complain when we're 250-3 after a slow batting display. we cannot win.

Good display from us today, I would love a first innings lead. Another thing, England are usually knackered after 6 days of an Ashes series. I am loving this personally, a really competitive series.
 
OZGOD said:
And where will we produce this "genuine allrounder" from? The only one who exists in the entire world is Kallizzz :28:
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Whats the status on Watto...isnt he fit yet?!
 
My man Hilfenhaus did it again!! I was disappointed England didn't kick on. Bopara had poor footwork but Collingwood's shot was ridiculous. TMS comm's allowed his dismissal because of his 1st test heroics...but criticised KP for getting out to a jaffa!

Colly created the collapse..Eng should have been 4 down max. It's a flat wicket and England need 450 at the bare minimum with ordinary Broad in the side.
 
450 bare minimum? I think people are overestimating how generous this pitch is runs-wise. so far it looks like a good English cricketing wicket, gives a decent chance to bowlers and batsmen who produce the quality, put the work in and get the bit of luck. Result pitch.
 
Whippy- I take into account that England's attack (as a massive Eng follower myself) was very generous last time around. Anderson, Onions and Flintoff may be a threat but I worry about Broad. The way I see things, England do need that 450. If they get anything under, I can see Aus getting the early to mid 500s and that could just be a match-winner.

There is a little bit of swing when overcast (more reverse with old ball rather than conventional with the new) I guess but the pitch isn't actually doing loads of the wicket- any movement of the wicket is more due to the slope rather than geniune seam thus if the batters play with knowledge of the slope, it will be good to bat on. Tuffers was saying it would quicken up over days 2-3 when it will be best to bat on- that is why I said 450 min.
 
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Whippy said:
I don't appreciate the criticism of any batsmen today, they were high quality dismissals. The wickets of Bopara, Prior, Pietersen and Flintoff featured great attacking cricket from Australia. I hate hate hate armchair fans and critics who don't get that it's not always possible for players to score hundreds every day. Jonathan Agnew is a tool. I could even forgive Collingwood for 16 after he just kept the series score at nil f'ing nil! on his own!

Has anyone forgotten we scored at 4 an over on day one, we never do that. England fans ask for 4 an over then complain when we're 360-6! but they also complain when we're 250-3 after a slow batting display. we cannot win.

Good display from us today, I would love a first innings lead. Another thing, England are usually knackered after 6 days of an Ashes series. I am loving this personally, a really competitive series.
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Good points. I think only Colly's was a poor shot. Bopara's foot didn't get to the pitch of the ball and he played around a slight in-dipper, KP got a jaffa as did Fred and Prior.
 
At the end of the day, scoring 400 in the first four sessions of the test usually prevents defeat, if nothing else. and who knows, we might get some overcast conditions and roll them over for 190 tomorrow and might just end up winning. you never know! I've always said we could sneak a test or two against the Aussies in our own conditions, just need a lot of things to go right.
 
That is definitely true. If the ball starts swinging I can see England doing some damage. But Australia never give up- I remember when I was 12, it was a Friday afternoon and I saw Gough and co reduce Aus to 52/4 I think it was at Headingley in 1997...then Thorpe dropped Elliott and he and Ponting then made England pay severely- this was at 1-1 in the series.

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scoring 400 means advantage England. Australia has to bat really well to reduce or take over that advantage and untill they do that England is up in the match. Doesn't matter if the pitch is flat or whatever the conditions are. Maybe Australia just bowled bad or some England batsman were playing really well
 
My biggest concern is English bowling. Are they good enough to trouble the Aussie batters this time?
 
New day...hopefully the OZ have had time to regroup. The goal will be to bowl these guys out for a sub 450 score.
 
Would want to put in a much better performance than yesterday. Stunk it up yesterday and they need to improve or else.
 
Mohsin said:
Whats the status on Watto...isnt he fit yet?!
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:))) Is he ever fit?

Saw an English journalist write "Australia wanted an Andrew Flintoff. They got one, he is always injured".
 
It's about time we beat Australia at Lords anyway. isn't it 80 years since or something? LOL!

I think Broad is getting a bit of a raw deal. By all accounts he put in a very poor bowling performance in Cardiff, but England fans who have been following his progress over the last few years know he's a lot better than that. I'm still a fan. With Swann suddenly off-colour, Onions inexperienced and Flintoff prone to dropping out at any point, it was always going to be the case that Anderson and Broad would have to lead the attack this summer in the best of form if we were going to have any chance. Come on boys!
 
What a start from Hilfenhaus - he bowls Strauss 2nd ball of the morning - who is bowled!

Played no stroke to a straight one - big misjudgement!
 
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New batsman is Swann.

And he is OUT!!!

Eng: 370-8

400 is looking unlikely

What a start from Aus
 
Now Broad plays on from Hilfenhaus!

Aus on fire

Eng: 378-9
 
haha. back to being mullered. still a good total if you ask me, there's a bit in the wicket and not a bad situation to bowl, grey and murky later in the day
 
Bad start for England - Strauss wanted 450, be lucky if he gets 380

Overall England will be gutted and rightly so - to go from 222-1 to 379-9 is poor (altho obviously not half as bad as us)
 
Hopefully Onions can pick up some early wickets - still reckon Harmison should have been selected instead of broad
 
Nice start from Aus... they're looking to really finish them off early!
 
it appears to be a collapse over the course of the innings, but countless times we've gone from 130-5 to 400, so it just balances out really. Lords 2005 was a good cricket wicket - there was so much uproar about England being set up for a McGrath destruction by the groundsmen, that the Lords tests since have seen 600+ batting paradise. Which has also created criticism due to too many draws. Looks like we have gone full circle and ended up with another sporting wicket.
 
Siddle looks close to throwing up. He doesn't look at all healthy, poor old chap.

95.2
Siddle to Onions, no run, shorter delivery that he ducks beneath

95.1
Siddle to Onions, no run, sharp, shortish delivery to Onions who, on the back foot, defends it nervously, getting a thick inside edge to his pads

LOL whats this about ?
 
:91: how many bowlers do Australia actually have left now, then? will Punter have to remove his cap soon?

400! good work from Onions and Jim, showing some of the 'better' players up.
 
Whippy said:
:91: how many bowlers do Australia actually have left now, then? will Punter have to remove his cap soon?
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I think Warney will have to come down from the comms box :D
 
hasanb said:
I think Warney will have to come down from the comms box :D
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I haven't been following the sky coverage, how's Warney doing in the box? Always been one of my favourite players.

gorgeous from Anderson, 415 now
 
Great shot for 4 off the back foot by anderson, johnson then strays down the legside and is hit for another boundary, England move onto 415/9.

This last wicket partnership is now at 37 runs!
 
Anderson finishes off the over with another boundary...12 runs off that over, mitchell johnsons nightmare continues. 419-9
 
40 run partnership that could make all the difference.

Johnson 21 overs, taken 2-130. Poor show, one of the main reasons the Aussies find themselves in this position.

4 morrrrre. one of Anderson's best innings without a doubt, what an improved bowler and batsman.
 
Whippy said:
I haven't been following the sky coverage, how's Warney doing in the box? Always been one of my favourite players.

gorgeous from Anderson, 415 now
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Its actually quite entertaining when hes commentating, he loses his neutrality quite often but in a funny way. Otherwise his commentary has been good and the stuff he's said makes sense, it took me a while to get used to the accent lol but im enjoying it now.
 
Warney says: Hes missed 3 balls in a row now...we should have the three strikes and youre out rule for tailenders! :))
 
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