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England v Pakistan | 4th Test | The Oval | Aug 11-15, 2016 | Day 2

How would Aamer Yamin have been any worse than Iftikhar?

At least Yamin has a batting technique not gulli danda technique like Ifti.
 
Unless something freakish happens that over is probably going to cost Pakistan the match.
 
Why haven't they sent in Sarfraz ahead of Iftikhar Ahmed??? Terrible terrible decision...

Even sending a night watchman would have been a better option, someone like Sohail Khan who can give it a whack to just take use of the hard new ball... Or Amir just to do something similar that of Yasir Shah...

But sending "dubutant" Iftikhar Ahmed when half n hour is left of day's play is a bad decision..
 
Imagine if Babar was coming in instead of Iftikhar.. we all would have been so chilled at the moment.


Thank you Misbah
 
When I saw Iftikhar's nervous eyes when he dropped Cook yesterday I knew that he wasn't mentally strong enough for international cricket.

Mind you, I also knew that he is nothing like 25 years old, either.

Seems to me a decade older then his official age.
 
Why haven't they sent in Sarfraz ahead of Iftikhar Ahmed??? Terrible terrible decision...

Even sending a night watchman would have been a better option, someone like Sohail Khan who can give it a whack to just take use of the hard new ball... Or Amir just to do something similar that of Yasir Shah...

But sending "dubutant" Iftikhar Ahmed when half n hour is left of day's play is a bad decision..

Exactly should have sent wahab instead.
 
Why haven't they sent in Sarfraz ahead of Iftikhar Ahmed??? Terrible terrible decision...

Even sending a night watchman would have been a better option, someone like Sohail Khan who can give it a whack to just take use of the hard new ball... Or Amir just to do something similar that of Yasir Shah...

But sending "dubutant" Iftikhar Ahmed when half n hour is left of day's play is a bad decision..

Iftikhar was the nightwatchman for Sarfaraz
 
And that is why I said Mohammad Rizwan, not Iftikhar.

11 batsmen for PAK won't serve as their team is not formed on batting strength. Do you think with 8 batsmen + Sarfu, PAK would have posted 650 & batting once?

This was a very good wicket & despite couple of vital drops, PAK could have won this Test with 5 men attack. Now, I see almost similar pattern - PAK getting a decent lead, England, consolidating on Day 4 & then blasting in last 20 overs once the attack is 100 overs tiered. This time ENG is leading 2-1, so Cook won't declare with PAK having any mathematical chance - it has to be 20 wickets & best possibility was 5 bowlers.

With this fitness level, PAK should play Test with 4 bowlers & couple of all-rounders. Otherwise, almost every match'll be lost against better opponents from Day 4 onward.
 
This Woakes is the most successful bowler ENG have with new ball. Almost always get wickets with new ball.
 
Somehow, someway - can Pakistan just get to 450.

Simply it will all depend on this partnership... if England can break it early we are doomed... if Younis Khan can convert this into a daddy hundred and Sarfraz can make a good fifty (even a hundred) - Pakistan can be in a strong position..

But if they break this partnership, all the work done by Asad n Younis is simply lost :(
 
Among many mistakes, the biggest one for PAK in this Series was not playing 5th bowler. Basically caring couple of batsmen expecting them to score & depleting the attack. England having a deep batting line-up 'll every time hurt PAK once their attack is tiered. Rahat or Imran in this match for this guy Iftekhar & PAK could have won this match inside 4 days.

if we can bet on this... I would bet MISBAH would never do that..
 
Game is absolutely even given the nature of our Tail. Otherwise on such a track tail should add 100 runs
 
GUYS CALM DOWN WE ARE STILL IN CONTROL ..REMEMber we just lost 3 wickets ..one was night watchman who made double runs than his avergae and we wahab today who can bat along with Sohail and Rahat in batting form..we got this :pakflag2:pakflag2
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION], is that positive enough to maintain my membership? lol

I like your style :ksi

Need some more positivity after the last Woaks over :mv

Quick wickets have really set Pakistan but it's still not all lost! In-Shaa-Allah if these two can form a partnership that will help Pakistan greatly!
 
Younis as captain would have never selected a useless lulloo like Iftikhar.

Thank you Misbah
 
Pakistan might have thought for a sec. wow we've not given away a wicket to Woakes until now, right now he is holding the new bowl so lets give him some now
 
Surprising. I thought Younis had lost it. Top players have a way of making you eat your words.
 
100 (139) ... great knock for a batsman struggling to find his feet for the last 3 tests...
 
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Misbah has punched above his weight this series but he definitely detects the ball late now and usually late in ball. Despite scoring g in this series I think he should retire now regardless of the result.
 
Brilliant knock from THE MAN! Enjoying all the subtle insults towards a Pakistani great from the pathetic low life fans in this thread, am glad you're are burning. Take a bow Younis Khan :bow: beautiful hundred and has been in control throughout
 
Misbah has punched above his weight this series but he definitely detects the ball late now and usually late in ball. Despite scoring g in this series I think he should retire now regardless of the result.

No dude, he should stay till Aus series.
 
Need 120-150 more now.

Please YK does us one more service, one last time
 
When playing freely Asad is one of our best bat, but even when there is a slight chance of the team being in a pressure situation Asad would just give away his wicket.

That's because he is asked to bat at 6 "cautiously", which is not his core strength. He is a fluent, free scoring run maker, who bats at 3 in domestics & PAK plays him at No. 6, for which, the personality type is totally different.

I keep upsetting posters telling that Basit Ali is the epitome of Pakistan's batting intellectualism; otherwise, by 2013, Asad would have been No. 3. There comes the batting culture - if he makes the team; he'll bat at 3 for IND or SRL, even Bangladesh, otherwise won't play - here PAK Thick tank believes, he should bat at 6, because he has equal No. of Century with Sir Garry there.
 
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