England vs Australia | 1st Ashes Test | Nottingham | 11/7/13 | Day 2

[Convict]

Will Cook & Flower go the Oz and the umps and request it to be overturned?

Why?

No evidence that he hit the ball at all.

Cook and Flower can sod off.

 

[nish_mate]

Cricbuzz trolling as well

"This reminds me of the Bell incident over here against India. He was dismissed via a run-out on the verge of tea. Andrew Strauss and Andy Flower then went over into the Indian dressing room, spoke sweet nothings with the Indians and got the decision overturned in their favour. Will Cook and Flower do the same now?"

 

[nish_mate]

Why?

No evidence that he hit the ball at all.

Cook and Flower can sod off.

Mate I am being sarcastic here.....

 

[Convict]

Mate I am being sarcastic here.....

Sorry.

I've read too many English posts on other forums.

 

[Ruri]

Idiots will always idiots. Finn need some more time in county cricket. Root shouldn't have begun his opening in the Ashes. There is a serious problem with Trott as in he has forgot how to make 100s.

Bell and Prior will be crucial. Only their runs could save England here as I feel KP will struggle against the leftie Starc.

Bairstow is also a useless player as well.


Dunno if people see my pessimism as deterring my sense of judgment.

 

[ali bubba]

Okay maybe kneejerk, but Cook in this test has been useless as a captain. The decision to bat first was stupid, and he just doesn't seem like a man who can lead a team. It's affecting his batting also.

Hopefully he'll prove me wrong but this test is gone.

Australia leading 1-0 and England will need to up their game this could be a long summer and winter.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Starc on a hatrick.

 

[Bullet Drive]

KP loves the big occasion. This is it.

 

[Bullet Drive]

England team is highly overrated.

 

[Bullet Drive]

 

[Bullet Drive]

Mighty close.Cook looking shaky.

 

[Bullet Drive]

19-2

 

[Bullet Drive]

Another edge for four.

 

[Robert]

England really don't think out of the box, they just seem to follow the textbook all the time, the reason why they aren't that good to watch.

Fair comment these days - it's all quite regimented in the Flower Power era. Pointless bowling crocked Broad so they should have given Root a few overs today.

Vaughan would pull a few surprises, mind.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Starc to KP.

 

[Bullet Drive]

KP looking good. Comes a long way forward. 1 run.

 

[asifp]

They used the front on hot spot on that one! what a fail.

Surely the side on was needed and if that is not available, whatever happened to doubt.

This DRS is just retarted at times!

 

[nish_mate]

The way it is going we England could be overcooked and deflowered after all the hype....

 

[Wassixpakistani]

Cook and KP have quite similar careers at this stage .

 

[asifp]

In my mind too much doubt in Trotts, super slow seems to suggest there might have been one.

I thought DRS always favoured the umpire, not so in this case I guess!

 

[Justcrazy]

22 / 2

 

[Convict]

10-0 Botham

 

[SL_Fan]

Aussies keeping things tight. Eng got a real fight on their hands now.

 

[Bullet Drive]

shot

 

[SL_Fan]

Top shot :4 to KP

 

[ali bubba]

England can't lose another wicket today.

 

[Saurav]

So we didn't have side-on Hot Spot for Trott because it was prepared to show the catch behind for the Root dismissal and you can't play and record Hot Spot at the same time...

wth

 

[SL_Fan]

In my mind too much doubt in Trotts, super slow seems to suggest there might have been one.

I thought DRS always favoured the umpire, not so in this case I guess!

Yeah tough one for the third ump that. Apparently Hot spot view from side-on wasn't available.

 

[Bullet Drive]

What a stroke by KP. No run.

 

[SL_Fan]

wth

I'm sure we'll be hearing more about it after today's play. Will be interesting. Maybe it's the new Hot spot (with built-in snicko).

 

[SL_Fan]

Agar on

 

[Ruri]

A sla vs Pietersen soon. This could be horrific.

 

[Bullet Drive]

27-2

 

[Robert]

Okay maybe kneejerk, but Cook in this test has been useless as a captain. The decision to bat first was stupid,

If you win the toss: bat.

If you're not sure, think about it. Then bat.

If you're still not sure, consult the senior professional. Then bat.

- Sir Donald Bradman

 

[Convict]

If you win the toss: bat.

If you're not sure, think about it. Then bat.

If you're still not sure, consult the senior professional. Then bat.

- Sir Donald Bradman

Always thought that was Chappell

 

[Ruri]

If you win the toss: bat.

If you're not sure, think about it. Then bat.

If you're still not sure, consult the senior professional. Then bat.

- Sir Donald Bradman

If you have a group of batsmen notorious for poor showings in the first innings of first tests, and if you also average ridiculously low at Trent Bridge for your top 7, and have the second highest wickettaker at the ground in your team... Bowl under cloudy skies.


-Ruri.

 

[Convict]

John and Sonya Agar on ABC

 

[SL_Fan]

If you win the toss: bat.

If you're not sure, think about it. Then bat.

If you're still not sure, consult the senior professional. Then bat.

- Sir Donald Bradman

I guess when you average 99.94 you can't blame him

 

[Convict]

I guess when you average 99.94 you can't blame him

Also mainly had spinners for his attacks

 

[Bullet Drive]

43-2

 

[Ims1]

43 for 2 & Siddle on .

 

[Ruri]

Also mainly had spinners for his attacks

It's also a symptom of having mainly Batsmen Captains. They like getting dug in on the first day and hate batting last. Sadly, bowlers are rarely elevated to Test captain nowadays, and this just means they wont look up at the skies and the grass on the pitch and go "We'll have a bowl".

 

[Convict]

Yep

 

[SL_Fan]

Also mainly had spinners for his attacks

Spinners or no spinners if I averaged 99.94 I ain't bowling first that's a given

 

[ali bubba]

If you have a group of batsmen notorious for poor showings in the first innings of first tests, and if you also average ridiculously low at Trent Bridge for your top 7, and have the second highest wickettaker at the ground in your team... Bowl under cloudy skies.


-Ruri.

Exactly.

I got the impression Michael Clarke was happy with bowling 1st.

 

[SL_Fan]

Exactly.

I got the impression Michael Clarke was happy with bowling 1st.

Pretty sure he said he would have batted first as well. So a good toss to lose it appears.

 

[Mamoon]

Still can't bat. Been relying on the tail to save the batsmen for a long time and when they don't score this happens.

To be fair though, it's been quality bowling. Only Haddin deserves a bagging because he is a grade a idiot. To think they recalled this clown and promoted him to vice captain.

He's better than Wade.

 

[Ruri]

Exactly.

I got the impression Michael Clarke was happy with bowling 1st.

Under cloudy skies, a batsman captain is always hoping to lose the toss. Getting to bowl first without any of the blame for making the call is probably what they desire over winning the toss and batting.


If you're brave enough to make the call, ala Ponting, you're vilified. But you're rarely vilified for batting and collapsing.

 

[ali bubba]

Pretty sure he said he would have batted first as well. So a good toss to lose it appears.

I don't think he would have done. I reckon he would have bowled 1st, even more so him knowing how weak his batmen are overall as a unit.

 

[SL_Fan]

Shott by KP :4

 

[SL_Fan]

I don't think he would have done. I reckon he would have bowled 1st, even more so him knowing how weak his batmen are overall as a unit.

Wicket was expected to turn a fair bit as the game went on so I doubt he would have elected to bat last here knowing Aus's struggles against spin. In the end the overcast conditions basically nullified any advantage of winning the toss though.

 

[SL_Fan]

At the toss.

Clarke: "I would have batted, but don't mind bowling as it's a bit overcast."...On Agar: "It may be a surprise to some, but not to use. He's bowled really well and England have a lot of right-handers."

 

[Justcrazy]

49 / 2

 

[Justcrazy]

England trail by 16 runs with 8 wickets remaining

 

[SL_Fan]

Eng chugging along. Trail by 16 now. If they can set a target of around 220-250 Aus will find it difficult to pull off.

 

[Justcrazy]

Agar has shocked the poms here

 

[Justcrazy]

partnership 38 runs now.

 

[Justcrazy]

This match will produce a result ......... Poms need to set a target of at least 250 here.

 

[Justcrazy]

Aussies bowling tightly.

 

[Justcrazy]

Drinks

 

[Ruri]

Root + Trott, in two innings have scored less than Australia's #11.

#moveRootdowntohiscomfortspotdowntheorder
#sackBairstow


I have an anti Bairstow agenda.

 

[Justcrazy]

:4

 

[Justcrazy]

Agar needs to get wickets ......... he is playing as a specialist bowler.

 

[Justcrazy]

England trail by 3 runs with 8 wickets remaining

 

[Justcrazy]

Partnership 51 runs here

 

[Justcrazy]

Agar is like Abu Hasan ......... who is also good with the bat , but with ball pretty ordinary.

 

[Justcrazy]

:4

 

[Ruri]

2/2 now.

I've seen scorecards like that before, at Adelaide, that worked out well eno...



No it didn't. Nevermind.

 

[Justcrazy]

Cook is just ahead of Pieterson in average , but both pretty neck in neck.

 

[Justcrazy]

If Poms do not loose another wicket ........... till stumps they will recover some ground.

 

[wrongun]

If Agar gets Nonefer the match, does he still get picked Test 2?

 

[Ruri]

Cook is just ahead of Pieterson in average , but both pretty neck in neck.

Please, I'd take an opener with that average over a #4 to be the better batsman.

 

[Ruri]

If Agar gets Nonefer the match, does he still get picked Test 2?

As a #3 ahead of Cowan? Why not. He's #3 for Henley apparently, some English club cricket team.

 

[Justcrazy]

Agar continues.

 

[Justcrazy]

Please, I'd take an opener with that average over a #4 to be the better batsman.

That is a good point .......... I would also do that. Cook also gets big hundreds.

 

[Justcrazy]

If poms set a target of 300 here , they will be having edge......... Aussies batting pretty shaky.

 

[Ruri]

IF only Finn had bowled this tightly today. We might not be this deep in the hole right now.

 

[Robert]

"Yorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr not winning any more!!!!"

 

[Justcrazy]

England lead by 3 runs with 8 wickets remaining

 

[Robert]

If you have a group of batsmen notorious for poor showings in the first innings of first tests, and if you also average ridiculously low at Trent Bridge for your top 7, and have the second highest wickettaker at the ground in your team... Bowl under cloudy skies.


-Ruri.

Ruri thinking is too defensive for me.