England Vs New Zealand | 1st Test | Lords | May 16-20, 2013

[Ashraful_Rox]

gone Sir Alaistar Cook

great take by the keeper, good bowling boult

 

[Aman]

Cook goes!!!!
2-3 more wickets and then the tail

 

[Mamoon]

Cook, Compton and Trott could become the first trio in history to achieve a negative run rate. They certainly have the talent for it.

 

[Aman]

Cook, Compton and Trott could become the first trio in history to achieve a negative run rate. They certainly have the talent for it.

Dude its a test, it doesn't matter how quick you score them as long as you score them.

 

[Mamoon]

Compton has only played a handful of games. He's still feeling his way into test cricket, whereas Misbah is an experienced veteran. When he's settled it, the s/r will improve. Misbah will always be boring.

I love how you refer to Compton has being medicore, especially when he averages 2 runs less than Azhar Ali, the only young batsmen Pakistan possess who isn't utterly awful.

Before he feels his way completely, he will be booted out. He's that average.
Ever heard of Asad? Compton can't score a 20 against Steyn and Philtrundler in SA let alone a hundred under high pressure.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Trent Boult 11overs, 4 maidens for 11 runs and picked up

 

[Mamoon]

Dude its a test, it doesn't matter how quick you score them as long as you score them.

The so called second best test team in the world needs to show a whole lot more authority on home turf against a mediocre team.

 

[Aman]

I guess more teams will begin to use Mccullums tactic to neutralise Cook

 

[malakian]

Before he feels his way completely, he will be booted out. He's that average.
Ever heard of Asad? Compton can't score a 20 against Steyn and Philtrundler in SA let alone a hundred under high pressure.

Compton has never played in SA, he's a quality player though so I'd expect him to average at least 50.

Never heard of Asad. Is he another nobody that Pakistan have plucked off the street?

 

[Mamoon]

Trent Boult 11overs, 4 maidens for 11 runs and picked up

He needs to be fed some Indian trundlers and Australian glass bowlers to boost up his average and century count

 

[Jo_Don]

Never heard of Asad. Is he another nobody that Pakistan have plucked off the street?

You certainly are entertaining, I'll give you that

 

[Mamoon]

Compton has never played in SA, he's a quality player though so I'd expect him to average at least 50.

Never heard of Asad. Is he another nobody that Pakistan have plucked off the street?

He's the guy who outscored legends like Trott, Cook, Pietersen, Bell and Strauss a little over a year ago.

 

[Aman]

Trentt Boult is the real deal, I can see him being a world class test bowler in 2-3 years and who knows maybe even world number 1.

 

[Mamoon]

Mate Compton isn't even good enough to board a plane to SA let alone play a test there.

 

[Aman]

The so called second best test team in the world needs to show a whole lot more authority on home turf against a mediocre team.

I know you're accustomed to playing against mediocre bowlers on placid tracks but if you're actually watching the game you'll see the ball has started to move a lot more.

 

[MattyB]

I'm guessing the people going on about the run-rate aren't actually watching the game? A combination of a slow pitch and a slow outfield is naturally going to produce a low run rate...

 

[Aman]

I'm guessing the people going on about the run-rate aren't actually watching the game? A combination of a slow pitch and a slow outfield is naturally going to produce a low run rate...

Add quality bowling to the list.

 

[Mamoon]

Trentt Boult is the real deal, I can see him being a world class test bowler in 2-3 years and who knows maybe even world number 1.

A bowler who averages 30 in tests and 47 in ODIs is the real deal for NZ.

 

[Mamoon]

I know you're accustomed to playing against mediocre bowlers on placid tracks but if you're actually watching the game you'll see the ball has started to move a lot more.

But still the bowling attack consists of only one have decent bowler like Southee.

 

[malakian]

Mate Compton isn't even good enough to board a plane to SA let alone play a test there.

Nick Compton averaged 99.60 in domestic cricket last year, a domestic competition 3x stronger than Pakistan's useless collection of banks & cement companies.

No Pakistan batsmasn would even come close to matching Nick's feats last summer.

 

[ads101]

Compton has never played in SA, he's a quality player though so I'd expect him to average at least 50.

Never heard of Asad. Is he another nobody that Pakistan have plucked off the street?

Thought you'd have watched that match, the second test in UAE. You know the one you were close to winning.

Made a useful 58 back against the wall in the first innings, then a 40 odd in the next to give Pakistan a total to defend of 145. Which turned out to be more than twice as much needed ?

 

[doctordamor]

wassup with the run rate, next guy who bash pakistan Run Rate better check this match

 

[Robert]

Before he feels his way completely, he will be booted out. He's that average.
Ever heard of Asad? Compton can't score a 20 against Steyn and Philtrundler in SA let alone a hundred under high pressure.

Doesn't Compo III have two centuries in his last three tests?

 

[Aman]

A bowler who averages 30 in tests and 47 in ODIs is the real deal for NZ.

Look at Amirs average...
The talents there, his average will improve he's mostly played on placid tracks and has impressed or do you have to be pakistani to be considered a talented bowler?...

 

[Mamoon]

Doesn't Compo III have two centuries in his last three tests?

Mate I'm playing my troll persona in this thread to negate the prince of all trolls Malakian. The sign of a quality poster is to have the ability to troll and get underneath one's skin when needed and not just make sense all the time.

 

[Aman]

But still the bowling attack consists of only one have decent bowler like Southee.

Boults better than Southee that's almost a consensus with kiws... Come again.

 

[wrongun]

Trentt Boult is the real deal, I can see him being a world class test bowler in 2-3 years and who knows maybe even world number 1.

He's promising, but I've never seen him rip through a team. Even Broad manages that occasionally, Patto & Cummins do, Junaid as well. He's got to add a bit more penetration to get in that league.

 

[Mamoon]

Indeed England domestic cricket has such class bowlers that they have had to put with a Barbie doll for half a decade and trundlers like Bresnan.

A guy like Anderson who has been crap for 80% of his career has been the spearhead of your attack for years and years. Compton wouldn't average in 9 in Pakistan domestic.

 

[ads101]

Boults better than Southee that's almost a consensus with kiws... Come again.

Thought this too. But whenever you hear Kiwi commentators they rave about Southee. Though both are good prospects.

Where's Vettori? Why is he always out/injured these days. Could have used him in England. I don't altogether believe this Martin guy is that good.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Need to get Trott out

 

[Aman]

Indeed England domestic cricket has such class bowlers that they have had to put with a Barbie doll for half a decade and trundlers like Bresnan.

A guy like Anderson who has been crap for 80% of his career has been the spearhead of your attack for years and years. Compton wouldn't average in 9 in Pakistan domestic.

Yeah he'd average 109

 

[MattyB]

Cook, Compton and Trott could become the first trio in history to achieve a negative run rate. They certainly have the talent for it.

I'll agree Compton is almost certainly too slow however the same can't be said about Trott and Cook. Shall we compare Trott and Cook with Pakistan's top 6?

Cook averages 49.04 at a S/R of 47.42
Trott averages 50.03 at a S/R of 47.05

Hafeez averages 35.12 at a S/R of 53.55
Farhat averages 32.00 at a S/R of 48.28
Azhar Ali averages 42.46 at a S/R of 39.05
Younis Khan averages 50.74 at a S/R of 52.40
Misbah averages 43.19 at a S/R of 40.74
Asad averages 40.48 at a S/R of 42.57

So really the only batsmen who scores runs at an equal or higher S/R than Trott and Cook who actually has a similar average to the pair is Younis Khan...

 

[Mamoon]

Need to get Trott out

Why are you bored of sleeping?

 

[Aman]

Thought this too. But whenever you hear Kiwi commentators they rave about Southee. Though both are good prospects.

Where's Vettori? Why is he always out/injured these days. Could have used him in England. I don't altogether believe this Martin guy is that good.

I wouldn't have a clue about Vettori. I think he may be resting up for Champions Trophy, or Bruce Martin may have been picked ahead of him because of his form against England in NZ.

 

[malakian]

Put it this way, if Compton was a Pakistani, he'd be the best bat in the team, and that includes the past it Younis Khan.

 

[Jo_Don]

Look at Amirs average...
The talents there, his average will improve he's mostly played on placid tracks and has impressed or do you have to be pakistani to be considered a talented bowler?...

Get with the program, only Pakistanis are allowed to be the best at everything on this forum.

Imran the best all rounder,
Wasim the best swing bowler,
Waqar the best strike bowler,
Shoaib the best celebration (despite stealing it from Donald),
Razzaq the cleanest hitter of the ball,
Afridi the most unfulfilled talent,
Amir the most talented bowler,
Asif the best bowler in the world had he not fixed,
Anwar the best opener,
Inzi the best matchwinner,
etc.

I'm sure I've left out a few gems that I've read here.

 

[soso_killer]

England look frail and inexperienced without KP

 

[HASHAM2]

Boult is bowler to watch for future
Boult is Junaid khan type of Bowler
maybe comparable left arm pacer to Junaid khan

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Ian Bell is playing with a much more positive approach, class.

 

[ads101]

Put it this way, if Compton was a Pakistani, he'd be the best bat in the team, and that includes the past it Younis Khan.

If YK was better than every English batsmen in the UAE? Why would you expect Compton to be better than every other English bat in the UAE then?

 

[Mamoon]

Yeah he'd average 109

Brown nosing a Pom in the midst of a test series with them. Complete lack of competitiveness and aggression. Explains why you have been and always will be mediocre.

 

[Mamoon]

Put it this way, if Compton was a Pakistani, he'd be the best bat in the team, and that includes the past it Younis Khan.

Past it Younis just smashed a ton in SA.

 

[ads101]

Ian Bell is playing with a much more positive approach, class.

Bell won't struggle here, this is New Zealand, home conditions. Big score here I predict for him.

 

[MattyB]

Add quality bowling to the list.

Yes I agree the bowling has been good however due to how slow the pitch and outfield is often the batsmen haven't been getting full value for their shots so those three factors combined explains why the run rate has been so slow.

 

[Aman]

England look frail and inexperienced without KP

Agreed, he was the X-Factor player who could amp up the R.R and make England look good.

 

[malakian]

Past it Younis just smashed a ton in SA.

Anyone can score a ton there, see off the new ball & SA's new ball bullies get frustrated.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Trott struggling against Bruce

 

[soso_killer]

Get with the program, only Pakistanis are allowed to be the best at everything on this forum.

Imran the best all rounder,
Wasim the best swing bowler,
Waqar the best strike bowler,
Shoaib the best celebration (despite stealing it from Donald),
Razzaq the cleanest hitter of the ball,
Afridi the most unfulfilled talent,
Amir the most talented bowler,
Asif the best bowler in the world had he not fixed,
Anwar the best opener,
Inzi the best matchwinner,
etc.

I'm sure I've left out a few gems that I've read here.

you left out my favourite "player X at his peak was the best ever"

(even if that peak was 2 years)

 

[malakian]

Agreed, he was the X-Factor player who could amp up the R.R and make England look good.

I doubt KP could motivate himself against this useless lot.

 

[Mamoon]

Agreed, he was the X-Factor player who could amp up the R.R and make England look good.

Couldn't score an X amount of runs against Pakistan both in England and in UAE.

 

[HASHAM2]

Look at Amirs average...
The talents there, his average will improve he's mostly played on placid tracks and has impressed or do you have to be pakistani to be considered a talented bowler?...

Amir 14 Test 51 wicket,s Ave-29 S/R 56
Boult 13 test 41 wicket,s Ave-31 S/R 61

Amir 15 odi 25 wicket,s Ave-24
Boult 8 Odi 6 Wicket,s Ave-47

U should compare Boult with juanid khan

 

[Mamoon]

Anyone can score a ton there, see off the new ball & SA's new ball bullies get frustrated.

You couldn't even score runs against them at home.

 

[Jo_Don]

Anyone can score a ton there, see off the new ball & SA's new ball bullies get frustrated.

Not half as bad as 630/2 against the the best bowling attack in the world, in Fortress England.

 

[MattyB]

Get with the program, only Pakistanis are allowed to be the best at everything on this forum.

Imran the best all rounder,
Wasim the best swing bowler,
Waqar the best strike bowler,
Shoaib the best celebration (despite stealing it from Donald),
Razzaq the cleanest hitter of the ball,
Afridi the most unfulfilled talent,
Amir the most talented bowler,
Asif the best bowler in the world had he not fixed,
Anwar the best opener,
Inzi the best matchwinner,
etc.

I'm sure I've left out a few gems that I've read here.

Ajmal the best spinner

 

[Mamoon]

And the past it Younis Khan bullied Swann in UAE as if he was Ray Price.

 

[soso_killer]

Anyone can score a ton there, see off the new ball & SA's new ball bullies get frustrated.

then why did he average around 30 if it was that easy batting here?
Come to think of it not a single Pakistani bat aggregated 200 runs.
Hmmm....

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

The kiwis should have picked up Bracewell, he looks big and I remember how he won that test match against the aussies.

 

[Aman]

you left out my favourite "player X at his peak was the best ever"

(even if that peak was 2 years)

Is that a shot at me?

 

[Space Cat]

He's promising, but I've never seen him rip through a team. Even Broad manages that occasionally, Patto & Cummins do, Junaid as well. He's got to add a bit more penetration to get in that league.

He ran through England in his last test but yes he does have a way to go yet. His problem is that he isn't always consistent with his line. Tends to go a bit to offside to legside during an over.

He would also have at least another 10-15 wickets if basically every catch NZ dropped last season wasn't off his bowling. He was cursed in that regard.

 

[Mamoon]

Such a boring match nobody is even bothering to keep others updated.

Oh wait nothing is happening on the field actually

 

[soso_killer]

England are a professional side, not an entertaining one. They wont capture your imagination thats for sure. But they do get the job done.

(i did not want to call them boring)

 

[soso_killer]

Is that a shot at me?

lol neh, unless you're a Pakistan supporter

 

[Mamoon]

England are a professional side, not an entertaining one. They wont capture your imagination thats for sure. But they do get the job done.

(i did not want to call them boring)

Yes UAE 2012 is testament to that and so is the very crucial series at home to SA.

 

[Aman]

lol neh, unless you're a Pakistan supporter

I thought it was about a Ponting comment I made earlier.

 

[wrongun]

Get with the program, only Pakistanis are allowed to be the best at everything on this forum.

Imran the best all rounder,
Wasim the best swing bowler,
Waqar the best strike bowler,
Shoaib the best celebration (despite stealing it from Donald),
Razzaq the cleanest hitter of the ball,
Afridi the most unfulfilled talent,
Amir the most talented bowler,
Asif the best bowler in the world had he not fixed,
Anwar the best opener,
Inzi the best matchwinner,
etc.

I'm sure I've left out a few gems that I've read here.

Butt the best administrator.
Dar the best umpire.

 

[malakian]

And the past it Younis Khan bullied Swann in UAE as if he was Ray Price.

Swann with bowling with chronic elbow pain. A 100% fit Swann would pwn him.

Not half as bad as 630/2 against the the best bowling attack in the world, in Fortress England.

That was a disappointing day, but as I've said previously, our minds were not on the cricket. We made up for it by owning India in their backyard, something the likes of NZ & Pakistan could only dream of doing.

 

[Mamoon]

Is that a shot at me?

It's a shot at me for not believing that Steyn is the best thing to ever step foot on this planet and if you put all the legendary fast bowlers in history together in a mixer you'll get Steyn's pinky toe.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Shot by Trott

 

[wrongun]

He would also have at least another 10-15 wickets if basically every catch NZ dropped last season wasn't off his bowling. He was cursed in that regard.

I do remember a few of his going down. Sami still holds the record imo for most chances dropped off him, hope Boult doesn't challenge him!

 

[Amjid Javed]

Most people at lords today must feel like this....

 

[Mamoon]

Swann with bowling with chronic elbow pain. A 100% fit Swann would pwn him.



That was a disappointing day, but as I've said previously, our minds were not on the cricket. We made up for it by owning India in their backyard, something the likes of NZ & Pakistan could only dream of doing.

We owned India too and not our fault there were no tests.

 

[Jo_Don]

It's a shot at me for not believing that Asif is the best thing to ever step foot on this planet and if you put all the legendary fast bowlers in history together in a mixer you'll get Asif's pinky toe.

ftfy

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

more, Trott finally getting loose. That drop is costing the Kiwis costly now

 

[wrongun]

Wagner is letting the pressure off here. 2 boundaries in 2 overs.

 

[HASHAM2]

Wagner is letting the pressure off here. 2 boundaries in 2 overs.

Wanger should try to bowl more and more dot Ball,s

 

[Space Cat]

Ripper of a ball and a ripper of a catch to remove Trott.

 

[leatherface58]

Oh Look Brownlie finally catches one

 

[Amjid Javed]

Englands snail pace crawl isnt helping them at all as everytime a partnership is broken england have hardly advanced anywhere....

 

[soso_killer]

If they get Bell then they will be into the inexperienced middle and lower order. The new ball is only 24 overs away.

 

[wrongun]

If they get Bell then they will be into the inexperienced middle and lower order. The new ball is only 24 runs away.

fixed that for you