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England vs Pakistan | 4th ODI | Nottingham | May 17th, 2019 | Pakistan innings

Comon Hafeez you are in WC squad now bat for 400+ score... We really didnt cash in the spinners.. now England ll unleash their fast bowlers:tahir2
 
so 222 needed from 21 overs from here on to get to 400
and 202 to get 380.
 
On such flat wkts IMO 360 is the new par score
Teams batting first should look to make 200 in 30 ovs and take minimum 160 off last 20 against softer ball.

Conversely teams chasing should look to reverse the setup. Break the chase with 170-180 off the first 20 by maximizing powerplay and leave a chase of 6.5-7 too max for last 30 overs.

The template India and Pak seems to favour -i.e. that of consolidating till over 35 to reach 200-220/2 and then exploding leaves too much work for lower/middle order to do who need to start striking from ball one.
 
When you listen to English commies, you would think all the teams should fall on their feet and worship them lol Others should quit and go home
 
Even the maximum projected total probably won't be safe against England at Trent Bridge.

That being said, wouldn't Pakistan's last two totals of 361 and 358 would've been enough to beat most of our opponents in the World Cup ? We're not facing England's batters every match !
Yes, we would have a win against everyone bar Australia probably.
 
When you listen to English commies, you would think all the teams should fall on their feet and worship them lol Others should quit and go home

England can have the strongest team but they arent winning the WC for sure...
 
Its not the actual number anyone is arguing. A par score of 350 indicates more than a run a ball score. It's crap. IPL era cricket.

For anyone who enjoyed bowling this is extremely boring.

True, Nasir Hussain also pointed out how the economies have been increasing every year and criticized the two balls rule as well.

He also mentioned the way cricket is going doubt that young kids would want to become bowlers.
 
When you listen to English commies, you would think all the teams should fall on their feet and worship them lol Others should quit and go home

It's just arrogance speaking.... we were getting statements like "we can score 500".... "358 was just par score".....


I'm waiting for them to get a phainti like CT17 semi only for them to start crying about "dead pitch"
 
Not long was a west Indian. Now he is representing England and mixing up with them well lol I can't imagine an outsider playing for India.
 
Even the maximum projected total probably won't be safe against England at Trent Bridge.

That being said, wouldn't Pakistan's last two totals of 361 and 358 would've been enough to beat most of our opponents in the World Cup ? We're not facing England's batters every match !

Yeah but it’s not easy to get those totals against attacks like NZ, SA and India
 
Pathetic batting on display. Harris at 4 is ideal. The guy went on around 120 strike rate. Babar and Hafeez at the crease is going to be the turning point.

Thinking of roy opening today is already making me feel this is very below par at the half way mark.

And coming in next is safraz and malik 🤦🏾*♂️
 
It's just arrogance speaking.... we were getting statements like "we can score 500".... "358 was just par score".....


I'm waiting for them to get a phainti like CT17 semi only for them to start crying about "dead pitch"

Yeah. That’s inevitable and it’s gonna be great. It’s gonna be in their semi final is what I’m predicting
 
It's just arrogance speaking.... we were getting statements like "we can score 500".... "358 was just par score".....


I'm waiting for them to get a phainti like CT17 semi only for them to start crying about "dead pitch"

United nations is deepd down still not confident lol they had to snatch another player from another country to feel safe
 
It's just arrogance speaking.... we were getting statements like "we can score 500".... "358 was just par score".....


I'm waiting for them to get a phainti like CT17 semi only for them to start crying about "dead pitch"

Just because Sarfraz can't play like that, doesn't mean others can't.

Eng is perfectly capable of that, and 350 is a par score for them.
 
Even the maximum projected total probably won't be safe against England at Trent Bridge.

That being said, wouldn't Pakistan's last two totals of 361 and 358 would've been enough to beat most of our opponents in the World Cup ? We're not facing England's batters every match !

All of New Zealand, India, Australia and even West Indies are capable of chasing such totals on flat pitches
 
I think it’s pretty clear that Babar won’t step on the gas until he hits 100 so hopefully he gets there soon.
 
They should play it like t20 now. Wickets in hand and under 20 overs left, come on.
 
Just because Sarfraz can't play like that, doesn't mean others can't.

Eng is perfectly capable of that, and 350 is a par score for them.

Yeah all eleven players are Sarfaraz.... some people let hate consume them so much that they come across as biased clowns.
 
You guys need to chill. Yes we should be going faster but these batsmen are limited. We just don't have the talent.
 
All of New Zealand, India, Australia and even West Indies are capable of chasing such totals on flat pitches

Not regularly, may be on their best days but Eng has been scoring these 350 + scores almost every other game played in England.
 
I think it’s pretty clear that Babar won’t step on the gas until he hits 100 so hopefully he gets there soon.

He has nothing to prove, so don’t know why he does it, team should come before individual milestones. The management needs to address this.
 
Babar's selfish batting will cost us. People need to stop compare him with Kohli. Kohli will never play selfish innings like this in a super flat track.
 
RR a bit too low right now. Pak should have been around 210 right now with the start they got.
 
You guys need to chill. Yes we should be going faster but these batsmen are limited. We just don't have the talent.

Yes we do, our players are just selfish who put individual records over team performance.
 
Contrast between how imam and fakhar got to their century vs babar couldn’t be starker
 
Imam was also rightly criticized for his slow ton and so should Bobby be as well. This innings is hurting Pak now.
 
Can’t believe Denly bowled 5 relatively economical overs.
 
Pak is going fine, if they dont collapse 350+ is on the cards, I dont think we have the ability to target 400 yet unless Asif Ali plays a gem.
 
Contrast between how imam and fakhar got to their century vs babar couldn’t be starker

Imam batted at 90-95 SR throughout and only improved SR once he crossed 100. Bobby sahab is doing the same, not good considering the batting conditions.
 
Imam was also rightly criticized for his slow ton and so should Bobby be as well. This innings is hurting Pak now.

Got too many players who play for personal milestone... except fakhar and asif.. hope they dont do the same
 
Imam batted at 90-95 SR throughout and only improved SR once he crossed 100. Bobby sahab is doing the same, not good considering the batting conditions.

We lost 2 for 20. What did you expect him to do???
 
1. I reckon we are almost there in terms of a strong team for the world cup - we need to replace Sarfraz with Abid Ali batting at 4
2. M Hafeez to captain
3. Wahab Riaz to replace Shaheen/Hasnain
4. Shadab to replace Imad Wasim

Lineup of:

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Abid Ali WK
Hafeez C
Malik
Asif Ali (Floater depending on situation)
Shadab Khan
Wahab Riaz
Hassan Ali
Shinwari/Junaid/ Amir

Bench
Haris Sohail
2 seamers (Junaid, Amir)
Sarfraz Ahmed WK
 
Boundaries are nullified if you play the next few as dots.

Strike rotation has been poor. Were quite below from where we should be in terms of rr
 
Imam was above run a ball

Go back and watch highlights.... he improved it to above run a ball once he crossed ton.


If Bobby can do the same then well and good. Otherwise this innings has hurt Pak.
 
Babar has really stunk out this innings in the last few overs. What you doing man?
 
1. I reckon we are almost there in terms of a strong team for the world cup - we need to replace Sarfraz with Abid Ali batting at 4
2. M Hafeez to captain
3. Wahab Riaz to replace Shaheen/Hasnain
4. Shadab to replace Imad Wasim

Lineup of:

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Abid Ali WK
Hafeez C
Malik
Asif Ali (Floater depending on situation)
Shadab Khan
Wahab Riaz
Hassan Ali
Shinwari/Junaid/ Amir

Bench
Haris Sohail
2 seamers (Junaid, Amir)
Sarfraz Ahmed WK
You are living in lala land if you think they are going to boot out sarfraz.
 
Ali had to bowl on the graveyard for spinners. Chinnaswamy stadium. But i have to say Kohli underutilized him.

Kohli the captain don't know how to use player, simple is that. If Ali played under MSD he would have been a different bowler
 
Babar putting personal milestone ahead of team interest

Hafeez is rusty

This was a 375+ wicket. Lucky if we get 300 at this point
 
Who else is willing to bet that Bobs will get out right after scoring his ton...
 
Go back and watch highlights.... he improved it to above run a ball once he crossed ton.


If Bobby can do the same then well and good. Otherwise this innings has hurt Pak.

I mean I could post it here. But sure keep arguing away. He was 81 off 80 and after that he was three to fivd balls under all the way to the hundred
 
We will huff n puff to score 300 and think we did great Eng ll come out and make it in 40 overs lol
 
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