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England vs Pakistan | 5th ODI | Leeds | May 19th, 2019 | England innings

When you get 5 or 6 good overs out of part time spinners . . you know the big shots are coming . . common sene! Fundamentals! So what do you do . . do you continue with your part timers or bring on your proper bowlers when some pressure has been put? Unreal thinking . . .
its like . . ohh . . bth are bowling well . .so lets continue with them . . they willcontinue to go at 4 an over . .
 
Tripling scores from 20 overs, Poms should reach somewhere near that 444, but they are 1 wicket more down and I think PAK pacers will make a come back with old ball - still 400 is a realistic possibility today.
 
I thought people wanted Malik to continue bowling in the last match.
People really can't make up their mind.

Don’t know why you put me in that bracket as I didn’t say that in the last match, 2nd of all it’s common sense that if a part timer in this case Malik starts getting lined up by the batsman you take him off as his job is to get through some brisk overs.
 
Azhar should not be allowed to listen to commentary.
 
Azhar is listening actively to commentary, hopefully he can get some ideas from there as he is clearly short on those
 
When you get 5 or 6 good overs out of part time spinners . . you know the big shots are coming . . common sene! Fundamentals! So what do you do . . do you continue with your part timers or bring on your proper bowlers when some pressure has been put? Unreal thinking . . .
its like . . ohh . . bth are bowling well . .so lets continue with them . . they willcontinue to go at 4 an over . .

Exactly
 
Well at least we got lucky with the rain in the first game. 4-0 will always be better than 5-0.
 
If doesn’t have a slip then he should be bowling fuller and tighter
 
Morgan’s issues on the short ball are when the ball is at his head not on the chest and going in to legside
 
England’s 481 world record under threat if Buttler gets going.
 
Come the world cup your certified chokers ie morgan root buttler, NZ SA first sign of pressure will crumble.

The only 3 that will be left standing will be ind pak aus take ur pick for the winner!!
 
Cricket is finished for bowlers Nasser even said Morgan keeps hitting to deep mid wicket because with new regulations u can’t a fielder there and no sweeper either might as well just give them the win
 
Azhar is a hack but these bowlers lack execution as well.

Other than Hasan Ali they are pretty new to the game and age wise young as well so I dont think working with a hack is gonna help them especially at this stage of his career. Even bowlers like Amir, Junaid and Hasan as well have deteriorated under him.
 
England batting line up is so destructive , long list of real stroke playing batsman, but question comes to mind as they are so used to playing on these roads now, if the WC pitches offer some swing and seam how will they fair up?
 
Say what you want but Shadab is the most complete player in our team. He fills are the requirements for a modern player.
 
England batting line up is so destructive , long list of real stroke playing batsman, but question comes to mind as they are so used to playing on these roads now, if the WC pitches offer some swing and seam how will they fair up?

They will completely flop if the pitches support bowlers. England will choke this year
 
They way things are going for England in recent times I doubt they will ever accept only one ball in 50 overs cricket again if ICC even considers it.
 
The bowling is awful today from the pacer but i reckon bad fielding positions is also bad.
 
Why is Sarfraz keeping Hasnain on when he used Malik and Fakhar to fill his quota? Hasnain, Malik, and Fakhar have 17 overs between them, surely we don't need to be bowling them at this stage of the game?
 
dont worry. sarfraz will make fastest 100 and we will chase whatever england will score
 
Sarfraz`s captaincy is awful, wth is this field setting and why is he still bowling Hasnain :facepalm:
 
After all the spanking hasnanin got I still back him and he should not be dropped for the world cup squad.Every one has a off day and lets not forget we are playing against the worlds no 1 side in their own back yard.Just give him the confidence and back him to do well and he is young so he will learn from his mistakes and will get better every match.We need to back this young lad!
 
Hasnain is awful.

He was getting smashed in UAE, of course he was going to get eaten alive in England
 
Say what you want but Shadab is the most complete player in our team. He fills are the requirements for a modern player.

Shadab is a vital cog in the team, without him, Pakistan lack control in the middle overs. Even his presence as a point fielder is hugely uplifting for the rest of the fielders.
 
After all the spanking hasnanin got I still back him and he should not be dropped for the world cup squad.Every one has a off day and lets not forget we are playing against the worlds no 1 side in their own back yard.Just give him the confidence and back him to do well and he is young so he will learn from his mistakes and will get better every match.We need to back this young lad!

When has he ever had a good day???
He's flopped in pretty much every international match he's played in?
 
The ease with which England batsmen are hitting boundaries every over, i have literally forgot how did we defend less than 250 all these years?

And also not long ago, in champions trophy, we restricted the same batting line up to 220. What happened in two years?
 
Hasnain is awful.

He was getting smashed in UAE, of course he was going to get eaten alive in England

I agree with you now.

Hasnain is too raw and inexperienced.

We needed Rauf or Shinwari.
 
Not the worst over from Hasnain, but please don't risk bringing him back on now. Give him overs if England lose a few more wickets.
 
You can’t just blame the bowlers here. The wickets are terrible.
 
Shadab is a vital cog in the team, without him, Pakistan lack control in the middle overs. Even his presence as a point fielder is hugely uplifting for the rest of the fielders.

Yep, the rest of the team sre good in one area but awful in another. Fakhar is also a complete player(almost?) in my opinion. He can bat and he can field.
 
Say what you want but Shadab is the most complete player in our team. He fills are the requirements for a modern player.

He is a jack of all and master of none. His bowling average against the top sides is almost 40, and his batting strike rate is 65.

He is massively overrated.
 
At the rate they were going, England should have been around 235 by now. Pakistan have bowled well to restrict them to 190.
 
I take nothing away from England , both tee and playing on same pitch and Eng clearly better side , however these toad pitches are not good for the game in overall hindsight, pitches like these should be there for only one game of the series, back in the day when pitches were really bad for batting icc used to step in (although primarily for safety concerns) however icc should step in for pitches like these, if this trend is continued there will be no balance for bat and ball and no youngster will ever inspire to be a bowler.
 
The ease with which England batsmen are hitting boundaries every over, i have literally forgot how did we defend less than 250 all these years?

And also not long ago, in champions trophy, we restricted the same batting line up to 220. What happened in two years?

That was a slow UAE style wicket, these wickets have all been worse than roads for the bowlers, and the fielding has regressed majorly.
 
I agree with you now.

Hasnain is too raw and inexperienced.

We needed Rauf or Shinwari.

Rauf is inexperienced too, and there is every chance he will be another Wahab. As far Shinwari is concerned, I shudder to think how badly he would get smashed by England on these wickets.
 
They way things are going for England in recent times I doubt they will ever accept only one ball in 50 overs cricket again if ICC even considers it.
There's a backlash against these imbalanced games even from English pundits:
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Hasnain’s running like he is jumping over a few mud puddles along the way to the crease

If he is struggling it means success must have gotten to his head. Sure, why not

I don’t believe a bowler who’s been underperforming in ODIs can a form issue and he has been free of injury. Also I don’t believe he’s been “found out” or a “first year wonder”. It’s rather obvious to see success has got to his head and he’s not the only one. Same goes for Sarfraz as well.
 
When has he ever had a good day???
He's flopped in pretty much every international match he's played in?

He bowls good yorkers and has good average pace,I think azhar is not giving proper bowling tips he should spend some time with waqar and I think he will become a better bowler he has the tools but he needs a proper mentor and I think waqar will deal with him and extract the best out of him.
 
I guess shadeb and Aamir will be back...need them big time....on the other hand, haven't seen anything inventive from sarf ...like telling SSA or imad to bowl round the wicket or , bowl a few slower ones....mix it up or bowl to one side of the wicket....i mean, they are going for plenty as is....wont hurt trying something different....
 
He is a jack of all and master of none. His bowling average against the top sides is almost 40, and his batting strike rate is 65.

He is massively overrated.

Agreed, I really don’t want to see him in the XI.
 
Rauf is inexperienced too, and there is every chance he will be another Wahab. As far Shinwari is concerned, I shudder to think how badly he would get smashed by England on these wickets.
Who would you back to do good on these pitches wahab or shinwari?one of them will definitely get picked with junaid and faheem certain to get axed.
 
Rauf is inexperienced too, and there is every chance he will be another Wahab. As far Shinwari is concerned, I shudder to think how badly he would get smashed by England on these wickets.

Who do we have apart from these two?

Any other options which you know?
 
Surely England will score 450+ now unless there is a collapse.
 
Phainta in progress 200 in 26th over if England pushes hard we may see first 500 scored today.
 
Pakistan will have chance to bat on same pitch guys.

If the pitch is so bad, we should chase it.
 
This has to be the worst team in thr world cup by far...no brains..no skills..ohh my what has our cricket come down to... who ever said not to look into this series need to wake up.. our cricket is done. Sarfaraz pls leave this team now. You were good to start with but you have now become tje danerys targaryn for this team
 
England should be looking at 450+ here atleast from here. ODI cricket is a joke now.
 
Who would you back to do good on these pitches wahab or shinwari?one of them will definitely get picked with junaid and faheem certain to get axed.

If you give me a choice between getting killed in a car crash (Shinwari) or a plane crash (Wahab), I would probably prefer a car crash.
 
I guess shadeb and Aamir will be back...need them big time....on the other hand, haven't seen anything inventive from sarf ...like telling SSA or imad to bowl round the wicket or , bowl a few slower ones....mix it up or bowl to one side of the wicket....i mean, they are going for plenty as is....wont hurt trying something different....
This is what loosing 9 games in a row does to your confidence,this team really needs to win today to restore lost confidence and if they do I will gurrantte a change in body language of the players.
 
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