First report on Mohammad Asif's performances at the NCA

[Dr_Bassim]

Glad to see Pakistanis as usual are changing from:

"Let's bring Amir back because he was young" to

"Let's also bring Asif back because he has served his time".

We could have a "Fixer's 11" soon

 

[KhanNn]

Glad to see Pakistanis as usual are changing from:

"Let's bring Amir back because he was young" to

"Let's also bring Asif back because he has served his time".

We could have a "Fixer's 11" soon

Worst joke of the year.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Worst joke of the year.

I know you love it when they take drugs and bowl no-balls.

No surprise there KhaNn.

 

[KhanNn]

I know you love it when they take drugs and bowl no-balls.

No surprise there KhaNn.

Assumptions are not facts. Facts arenot assumptions

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Assumptions are not facts. Facts arenot assumptions

Then don't support cheats.

 

[KhanNn]

Then don't support cheats.

Everybody makes mistakes and learns from them. I want him back because it was his first mistake and he was young. Youngster's learn through experience.

Yasir may have genuinely made a mistake we are no one to judge. He may well be telling the truth regardless of how silly it sounds.

On the contrary, I don't support Mohammad Asif because he is mature and is a serial offender, which means he is likely to offend again. However, there's no doubt he had a great skill set.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Everybody makes mistakes and learns from them. I want him back because it was his first mistake and he was young. Youngster's learn through experience.

Yasir may have genuinely made a mistake we are no one to judge. He may well be telling the truth regardless of how silly it sounds.

On the contrary, I don't support Mohammad Asif because he is mature and is a serial offender, which means he is likely to offend again. However, there's no doubt he had a great skill set.

I can barely digest Amir.

Accepting Asif is like knowingly asking for troubles to befall you.

Yasir is innocent until proven guilty.

 

[KhanNn]

I can barely digest Amir.

Accepting Asif is like knowingly asking for troubles to befall you.

Yasir is innocent until proven guilty.

Amir was more or less forced, even if he willingly did it, it seems like he has learnt his lesson and has become a true adult.

Yasir really doesn't seem the type. Yet the outcome depends makes the end decision.

Totally agree with you regarding Asif. Best to keep him away. Plus age is not on his side.

 

[Yanna_Rascala]

I can barely digest Amir.

Accepting Asif is like knowingly asking for troubles to befall you.

Yasir is innocent until proven guilty.

Why special treatment for Amir only? All 3 should be selected ONLY on merit. They have all served their time and if it were up to you, then we wouldn't see Mark Waugh or Warne.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Why special treatment for Amir only? All 3 should be selected ONLY on merit. They have all served their time and if it were up to you, then we wouldn't see Mark Waugh or Warne.

Asif has a habit.

Remember he was caught so many times.

We will see what happens to Yasir.

I don't particularly want Amir back either. My views on this have been clear. But since mass majority supports his inclusion, I can digest him.

 

[Junaids]

Glad to see Pakistanis as usual are changing from:

"Let's bring Amir back because he was young" to

"Let's also bring Asif back because he has served his time".

We could have a "Fixer's 11" soon

Well my friend, in view of what seems to be widespread dubious education or morality you could certainly field a Pakistani "Previously Suspended or Accused But Now Free To Play" eleven.....

1. Hafeez - currently banned bowling cheat
2. Butt - spot fixer
3. Younis - banned by Ijaz Butt
4. Yousuf - banned by Ijaz Butt
5. Shoaib Malik - previously banned bowling cheat
6. Bilal Asif - previously banned but cleared bowler
7. Kamran Akmal - named in court in London for alleged match fixing but never charged
8. Mohammad Amir - banned and jailed for spot fixing
9. Wahab Riaz - named in court in London for alleged spot fixing but never charged
10. Saeed Ajmal - previously banned bowling cheat
11. Mohammad Asif - banned and jailed for spot fixing.

The scary thing is not that all of these players are eligible to play now. It is that all apart from Ajmal, Bilal Asif, Kamran Akmal, Yousuf and Shoaib should probably be in your next Test team on playing merit.

 

[Shafi]

I know you love it when they take drugs and bowl no-balls.

No surprise there KhaNn.

Not really fond of doctors as well!!! They are drug pushers

 

[Yossarian]

Not really fond of doctors as well!!! They are drug pushers

There's a doctor I know who's nicknamed 'The Paracetamol Pusher' by his patients - his answer to most ailments is along the lines of "Take a paracetamol. If not better after a few days, then come back". (and take two next time ?).

 

[msb314]

What a bowler Asif was!

Tremendous bowler who could do all sorts of movement in air, off the hand, off the pitch in pretty much any conditions. And to think of it he was THAT good bowling at 125-130 kph!

Such a shame he wasted his talent and career along with being a very poor role model and person....

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Not really fond of doctors as well!!! They are drug pushers

There's a doctor I know who's nicknamed 'The Paracetamol Pusher' by his patients - his answer to most ailments is along the lines of "Take a paracetamol. If not better after a few days, then come back". (and take two next time ?).

True.

Anyone who doesn't respect his own field or profession should be censured heavily.

Quack doctors and cheat cricketers should both be frowned upon.

 

[Yossarian]

True.

Anyone who doesn't respect his own field or profession should be censured heavily.

Quack doctors and cheat cricketers should both be frowned upon.

He is a NHS GP in his mid-50's. So not exactly a 'quack doctor'.

 

[street cricketer]

Well my friend, in view of what seems to be widespread dubious education or morality you could certainly field a Pakistani "Previously Suspended or Accused But Now Free To Play" eleven.....

1. Hafeez - currently banned bowling cheat
2. Butt - spot fixer
3. Younis - banned by Ijaz Butt
4. Yousuf - banned by Ijaz Butt
5. Shoaib Malik - previously banned bowling cheat
6. Bilal Asif - previously banned but cleared bowler
7. Kamran Akmal - named in court in London for alleged match fixing but never charged
8. Mohammad Amir - banned and jailed for spot fixing
9. Wahab Riaz - named in court in London for alleged spot fixing but never charged
10. Saeed Ajmal - previously banned bowling cheat
11. Mohammad Asif - banned and jailed for spot fixing.

The scary thing is not that all of these players are eligible to play now. It is that all apart from Ajmal, Bilal Asif, Kamran Akmal, Yousuf and Shoaib should probably be in your next Test team on playing merit.

I think Bilal asif wasn't banned. He was just reported for suspect bowling action. Or was he?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

He is a NHS GP in his mid-50's. So not exactly a 'quack doctor'.

So, something is wrong with the NHS.

 

[Abid Z]

Asif deserves to be treated fairly and with justice. He's served his time. Provided he is fit, he deserves fair selection.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Interesting to see how asif goes domestically once hes back playing domestic cricket

 

[shoaibkhan83]

As much as many of us here want to see Asif play for Pakistan again and given a fair treatment obviously don't remember two key points.

1) He was deported from UAE for carrying an insignificant amount of drugs (don't remember the exact substance, probably cocain). Hence he'll never get visa to enter UAE ever again. So cannot represent Pakistan in any home series or PSL matches played in UAE.

2) He's already 33 going on to 34 years of age. May take a season for him to get match fit. So we're already looking at a 35 year old Asif if at all he's selected to play for Pakistan again.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

...so any more reports on Asif's recent form? Or are we having another morality thread on Asif - as if a 1000 others are not enough?

I suspect we'll have to wait till Jan 5.

 

[Junaids]

As much as many of us here want to see Asif play for Pakistan again and given a fair treatment obviously don't remember two key points.

1) He was deported from UAE for carrying an insignificant amount of drugs (don't remember the exact substance, probably cocain). Hence he'll never get visa to enter UAE ever again. So cannot represent Pakistan in any home series or PSL matches played in UAE.

2) He's already 33 going on to 34 years of age. May take a season for him to get match fit. So we're already looking at a 35 year old Asif if at all he's selected to play for Pakistan again.

Actually you're wrong. The UAE government wiped his record without a conviction and stated that he is free to return.

Then again, his style of bowling would be useless on those tracks.

 

[yasir]

Actually you're wrong. The UAE government wiped his record without a conviction and stated that he is free to return.

Then again, his style of bowling would be useless on those tracks.

Real utility of Asif is helping Pakistan with 10 tests on green and bounce in next 18 months... Maybe if fit enough to play WC in England.

When westerners come to Asia they look for quality spinners, when we go there, we look for quality new ball seamers, when we have one it's very tempting... He had won atleast a test match every series he played, well anywhere. Win one more you are at brink of series win... It's hard for fans to overlook the necessity of Asif !!!

For example Monty was difference in winning test series after 28 years for England in India... They almost won the second test in UAE as well... Asif could be the reason we may won one of those three test series... You have to take 20 wickets to win test no matter what.


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[Junaids]

Real utility of Asif is helping Pakistan with 10 tests on green and bounce in next 18 months... Maybe if fit enough to play WC in England.

When westerners come to Asia they look for quality spinners, when we go there, we look for quality new ball seamers, when we have one it's very tempting... He had won atleast a test match every series he played, well anywhere. Win one more you are at brink of series win... It's hard for fans to overlook the necessity of Asif !!!

For example Monty was difference in winning test series after 28 years for England in India... They almost won the second test in UAE as well... Asif could be the reason we may won one of those three test series... You have to take 20 wickets to win test no matter what.


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I agree, but I would go much further.

For the next five years there is no benefit playing-wise to Pakistan hosting Tests in the UAE instead of UK.

Yasir Shah is your only competent spin bowler, but you have a better pace attack than any other country between Amir/Asif/Wahab/Rahat.

As you say, you play 10 Tests outside Asia next year, by which time Azhar/Babar/Shafiq/Rizwan/Shehzad will have finally adapted to the moving ball and Hafeez/Younis/Misbah will be history.

The PCB should do a deal with the BCCI whereby every summer they play 3 Tests, 3 ODI and 3T20i in England, with the money shared 60-30 every year in favour of the BCCI with 10% to the ECB. Of course it is an unfair split, but still good enough to get you into the Big Three in place of Australia.

But you could also host Australia and New Zealand and South Africa in England too.

 

[yasir]

I agree, but I would go much further.

For the next five years there is no benefit playing-wise to Pakistan hosting Tests in the UAE instead of UK.

Yasir Shah is your only competent spin bowler, but you have a better pace attack than any other country between Amir/Asif/Wahab/Rahat.

As you say, you play 10 Tests outside Asia next year, by which time Azhar/Babar/Shafiq/Rizwan/Shehzad will have finally adapted to the moving ball and Hafeez/Younis/Misbah will be history.

The PCB should do a deal with the BCCI whereby every summer they play 3 Tests, 3 ODI and 3T20i in England, with the money shared 60-30 every year in favour of the BCCI with 10% to the ECB. Of course it is an unfair split, but still good enough to get you into the Big Three in place of Australia.

But you could also host Australia and New Zealand and South Africa in England too.

I think that was the plan back in 2010, we were all excited at Pakistan playing tests all summer in England... After that spot fixing episode everything go haywire, ECB did not want to do business with us.

Frankly it suits us lot more to play test in England than UAE. We may not win every series but can end up winning series in Australia and SA within a decade.... All our weakness can be cured by playing test in England, within 4/5 years.

This is an ideal situation, I am not sure if ECB will be willing to do business again.


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[Junaids]

I think that was the plan back in 2010, we were all excited at Pakistan playing tests all summer in England... After that spot fixing episode everything go haywire, ECB did not want to do business with us.

Frankly it suits us lot more to play test in England than UAE. We may not win every series but can end up winning series in Australia and SA within a decade.... All our weakness can be cured by playing test in England, within 4/5 years.

This is an ideal situation, I am not sure if ECB will be willing to do business again.


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Sure!

Two issues though. The ECB over-estimated demand for Pakistan Tests not involving India.

And the ECB was more enraged by Ijaz Butt than the fixers. They like Shaharyar Khan!

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I agree, but I would go much further.

For the next five years there is no benefit playing-wise to Pakistan hosting Tests in the UAE instead of UK.

Yasir Shah is your only competent spin bowler, but you have a better pace attack than any other country between Amir/Asif/Wahab/Rahat.

As you say, you play 10 Tests outside Asia next year, by which time Azhar/Babar/Shafiq/Rizwan/Shehzad will have finally adapted to the moving ball and Hafeez/Younis/Misbah will be history.

The PCB should do a deal with the BCCI whereby every summer they play 3 Tests, 3 ODI and 3T20i in England, with the money shared 60-30 every year in favour of the BCCI with 10% to the ECB. Of course it is an unfair split, but still good enough to get you into the Big Three in place of Australia.

But you could also host Australia and New Zealand and South Africa in England too.

Sure you're not Pakistani.

 

[Junaids]

[MENTION=43242]Dr_Bassim[/MENTION], as I wrote when I was interviewed, I have had a love affair with Pakistan, South Africa and West Indies cricket since the 1970s, although the WICB is sorely testing that currently.

Like my fellow Lancastrians Michael Atherton and David Lloyd I have nothing but affection for your cricket!

 

[yasir]

Sure!

Two issues though. The ECB over-estimated demand for Pakistan Tests not involving India.

And the ECB was more enraged by Ijaz Butt than the fixers. They like Shaharyar Khan!

That's right, Pakistani community will not watch test no matter how well we play....Even in UAE where we rarely loose any match but no crowd in test, in same ground house full for T20.

India-Pakistan can be possible with ECB in the mix.


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[sarfarazrules]

Glad to see Pakistanis as usual are changing from:

"Let's bring Amir back because he was young" to

"Let's also bring Asif back because he has served his time".

We could have a "Fixer's 11" soon

You're more than welcome to watch the Pakistan A team and btw your joke sucks lool.

 

[sarfarazrules]

Asif has more convictions than Amir primarily due to being caught with some substance in Dubai, so even if he is good enough will he able to play in UAE? Certainly not

and how about AUS, ENG, NZ, IND and etc

 

[Dr_Bassim]

You're more than welcome to watch the Pakistan A team and btw your joke sucks lool.

Who said it was a joke?

At the rate of forgiveness, we seem to give, it's entirely plausible scenario.

 

[larkykid]

[MENTION=43242]Dr_Bassim[/MENTION], as I wrote when I was interviewed, I have had a love affair with Pakistan, South Africa and West Indies cricket since the 1970s, although the WICB is sorely testing that currently.

Like my fellow Lancastrians Michael Atherton and David Lloyd I have nothing but affection for your cricket!

Interesting as they were ostracized by many in the international community for obvious reasons. No doubt had some of the greatest players during this period.

 

[BDwarriors]

So is asif gonna play tomorow?

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

So is asif gonna play tomorow?

+1 anyone?

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

So is asif gonna play tomorow?

+1 anyone?

First match of Wapda is on 10th January against FATA Team on dead wicket of hyderabad. Asif and Butt will most probably play that game.

 

[BDwarriors]

First match of Wapda is on 10th January against FATA Team on dead wicket of hyderabad. Asif and Butt will most probably play that game.

why punishing me with waiting more 5 days.. grrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

First match of Wapda is on 10th January against FATA Team on dead wicket of hyderabad. Asif and Butt will most probably play that game.

When did this happen? So Shehryar is okay now with these lads?

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

When did this happen? So Shehryar is okay now with these lads?

They should have completed rehab before ban ended and should have played QEA Trophy.

Pcb devised a 5 months rehab for them where they would have missed all grade 1 cricket inform of missing both four day and list A games. As they were supposed to be playing from 3rd of February. With Amir coming back to camp and squad Shehryar Sahib give this leniency to them to be available for selection for national one day cup which starts on 10th January.

 

[Pete Rose]

They should have completed rehab before ban ended and should have played QEA Trophy.

Pcb devised a 5 months rehab for them where they would have missed all grade 1 cricket inform of missing both four day and list A games. As they were supposed to be playing from 3rd of February. With Amir coming back to camp and squad Shehryar Sahib give this leniency to them to be available for selection for national one day cup which starts on 10th January.

I am really looking forward to Asif's domestic comeback. Of the three, Asif was the one I wanted to see back most.

 

[Analyze1]

just let him play

Asif is a genius - some of his movements actually defies the laws of physics. I think, he is born with some abnormalities in his wrist, otherwise his away cutters (ball that drifts away from right-handers & cut back sharply off the seam) are impossible to master. I have seen PAK bowlers doing fancy things with old ball, like Imran could swing inwards & then swing away after pitching (right-handers) or Wasim & Waquar could reverse it both ways in air, but a mixture of swing & cut is unique. I have seen the ball of VVS & Ponting (?) at Cape Town (?) several times in slow mo, but no clues yet. I think, Asif is one of those bowlers who could be lethal even at 35 & at 125km speed, particularly in England. At his prime, for few series he was more skillful than Jimmy & more accurate than Styen. In 2010, in 12 Tests in NZ, AUS & ENG, I think he took ~60 wickets, against top 3 of 4 sides in World at their home, and PAK fielders dropped another 20 sitters.....

If AA pair can reach to their level of 2010, backed by Wahab, Yasir, Rahat; PAK 'll be a formidable Test side in UK & down under, as long as the catches are taken. That'll easily be the best Test attack in contemporary world, by some distance.

he is a super talent belive just play him in england serious

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Probably a stale topic.

But we love praying for criminals to come back.

First it was just Amir.

Now already we want Asif to be good and be forgiven again.

 

[Haroon786]

If Asif performs then he should be selected.

 

[BDwarriors]

My guess for the match Asif takes 3 wickets and butt 40+ runs.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

When do we realistically see Asif back? Any definitive ideas?

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

When do we realistically see Asif back? Any definitive ideas?

Earliest possible England tour June July.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Earliest possible England tour June July.

Sorry I meant in domestic cricket/grade 2/club level etc.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Sorry I meant in domestic cricket/grade 2/club level etc.

No.

He is going to play grade 1 odi cricket as I told starting from 10th January. Will play at least 5 , 6 fifty overs ganes than he would play patrons trophy grade 2 cricket in February March. That is a 3 day format where he will play 5 , 6 three day games. Provided he remains fit.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

No.

He is going to play grade 1 odi cricket as I told starting from 10th January. Will play at least 5 , 6 fifty overs ganes than he would play patrons trophy grade 2 cricket in February March. That is a 3 day format where he will play 5 , 6 three day games. Provided he remains fit.

Thank you. I must have missed that.

Can't wait.

 

[goran]

Asif is a supreme talent. I just hope that he performs well and gets selected for the England tour, should be an ideal venue for him to redeem himself.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

" Jaadugar Machli "

https://youtu.be/fZhzUuysjwQ

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Mohammad Asif received a major boost in his quest to return to the national side after he was named the captain of the Sialkot Region team in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy grade-2 tournament.

The tournament, which kicks off from March 5, will be the second major domestic tournament Asif will be taking part in this year after he featured in seven games for WAPDA in the National One-Day Cup.

Asif and former Pakistan Test captain Salman Butt returned to domestic action in the national one-day tournament in January this year, four months after completing their five-year bans for spot-fixing.

The duo, along with Mohammad Amir, were banned by the International Cricket Council (ICC) for bowling deliberate no-balls in return for money during the Lord's Test against England on Pakistan's tour in 2010.

The three players and their agent Mazhar Majeed were later jailed in the UK.

Nauman Butt, Sialkot Region president, said the 33-year-old paceman had been named captain because 'he was the senior-most player in the team'.

“Since he was cleared by the ICC and the PCB so we have decided to play him,” Butt was quoted as saying ESPNcricinfo.

“It was my request to him to play as captain and players like (Abdur) Rehman, Bilawal Bhatti are going to play under him. None of the players have any problem with our decision and they are all like family members. He is the senior-most player in the team and enjoying the respect that a captain requires from a team-mate,” Butt added

“His behavior has been exemplary during the camp with all the youngsters and I am satisfied with his attitude. I have spoken with every player and they have confirmed that they have no problem at all.”

http://www.dawn.com/news/1243096/mohammad-asif-appointed-sialkot-region-captain

Good luck to Mo Asif and well done on being sialkot's captain

 

[gazza619]

^thanks for updating

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Huge surprise for Asif to be named captain first time ever at the age of 33.

Hope Sialkot does exceptionally well under his captaincy and he becomes highest wicker taker of QEA trophy grade 2.

 

[gunner]

I 've read some tweets that Asif and Salman Butt are being considered for the WC squad. Social media is not very reliable source so lets hope its not just a rumor. We definitely need both of them.

 

[Jabo]

I 've read some tweets that Asif and Salman Butt are being considered for the WC squad. Social media is not very reliable source so lets hope its not just a rumor. We definitely need both of them.

No we don't

Lol

Even in the future if they did return neither should be focusing on this format

Future T20i side should be of young players

Something like

Safraz (wk/c)
Azam
Sohail
Umar
Maqsood
Malik
Hammad

 

[Aman]

Pakistan really are in a mess.

I find it pathetic that a number of fans are pinning their hopes on these 30 year old sell outs to save you from mediocrity in LOI's.

It's simply not going to happen in LOI's, they may be useful in Tests but you're doing fine in that format.

 

[Cosmic]

I 've read some tweets that Asif and Salman Butt are being considered for the WC squad. Social media is not very reliable source so lets hope its not just a rumor. We definitely need both of them.

 

[gunner]

lol young team with malik lol ? besides sarfraz and babar , rest are tried and tested failures.

 

[Theo_14]

Lol in 2016, and we could not find a bowler even 2 levels below Asif.

Declining Pakistan.

 

[abc_to_xyz]

Pakistan really are in a mess.

I find it pathetic that a number of fans are pinning their hopes on these 30 year old sell outs to save you from mediocrity in LOI's.

It's simply not going to happen in LOI's, they may be useful in Tests but you're doing fine in that format.

We do need them for grooming of youngsters. Keep in mind that Butt was a decent ODI opener.

 

[ali2220]

Pakistan really are in a mess.

I find it pathetic that a number of fans are pinning their hopes on these 30 year old sell outs to save you from mediocrity in LOI's.

It's simply not going to happen in LOI's, they may be useful in Tests but you're doing fine in that format.

Guys like Misbah,Rehman,Ajmal and others started their career when they were 30+, so i don't understand why age can be of objection to anyone?
Also, Butt was a good OD player and Asif was a very good test bowler so to say that Pak won't gain anything from their inclusion is laughable.They will be coming back to the team sooner than i thought.

 

[Aman]

Guys like Misbah,Rehman,Ajmal and others started their career when they were 30+, so i don't understand why age can be of objection to anyone?
Also, Butt was a good OD player and Asif was a very good test bowler so to say that Pak won't gain anything from their inclusion is laughable.They will be coming back to the team sooner than i thought.

Have a look at Asifs record in LOI's and take note these are his numbers from 5 years back (i.e. when the game wasn't as favorable to the batsmen).

As for Butt, I don't think you need him as you already have Hafeez, Babar, Haris and Rizwan. I also doubt your players will be comfortable with playing with Butt, we all saw how difficult it was to get Amir accepted back in the side even though he was young when he made the mistake.

 

[Aman]

^On the off chance Butt is accepted back, he certainly won't be a game changer. He's not the type of opener you need.

 

[ali2220]

Have a look at Asifs record in LOI's.

As for Butt, I don't think you need him as you already have Hafeez, Babar, Haris and Rizwan. I also doubt your players will be comfortable with playing with Butt, we all saw how difficult it was to get Amir accepted back in the side even though he was young when he made the mistake.

Why should i look at Asif's record of LOI ? didn't i say we need Asif for TESTS?
Out of the 4 players you mentioned, only Hafeez and Babar are openers, Hafeez isn't doing all that good and Babar is still new.Butt and Asif are going to come back into the team and if some players have an issue then they can make their own team and play with them

 

[Aman]

Why should i look at Asif's record of LOI ? didn't i say we need Asif for TESTS?
Out of the 4 players you mentioned, only Hafeez and Babar are openers, Hafeez isn't doing all that good and Babar is still new.Butt and Asif are going to come back into the team and if some players have an issue then they can make their own team and play with them

Sorry misread that.

Yes he may be handy there, but he is still 33 and has a ton of baggage... and who knows when he'll be brought back, he may be 34 by the time he is.

 

[ali2220]

^On the off chance Butt is accepted back, he certainly won't be a game changer. He's not the type of opener you need.

Is there any game changer batter in Pak? If we don't have one, we should still go ahead and select the best one available who doesn't play endless dot balls. If Butt is still better than Hafeez/Khan/Khurram and shezy, he will make a comeback.

 

[Aman]

Is there any game changer batter in Pak? If we don't have one, we should still go ahead and select the best one available who doesn't play endless dot balls. If Butt is still better than Hafeez/Khan/Khurram and shezy, he will make a comeback.

You need to experiment with one of your more aggressive batsmen and have them open with Hafeez/Babar. At the moment, you're not taking advantage of the powerplays upfront.

 

[ali2220]

You need to experiment with one of your more aggressive batsmen and have them open with Hafeez/Babar. At the moment, you're not taking advantage of the powerplays upfront.

We have none, if we had one i would have preferred him over Butt who i dislike alot.
Its unfortunate, coz if we keep playing like we have been in last couple of years then its better for Pak fans to stop watching Pak matches.

 

[yasir]

Have a look at Asifs record in LOI's and take note these are his numbers from 5 years back (i.e. when the game wasn't as favorable to the batsmen).

As for Butt, I don't think you need him as you already have Hafeez, Babar, Haris and Rizwan. I also doubt your players will be comfortable with playing with Butt, we all saw how difficult it was to get Amir accepted back in the side even though he was young when he made the mistake.

Well, now a days you play with two new balls in ODI, this helps bowler like Asif. Plus he will be key for next 10 tests on green in 16 months or so...Senior bowlers like Amir and Asif are key for future bowlers development. Other bowlers are going to learn a lot from them...They are very skillful in their art...Gulf between Amir and next Pakistani bowler(as a matter of fact many international bowlers) is so much that it has opened the eyes of many cricket fans all over the world!!! - You can honestly tell me, How many NZ bowlers are better than him?

As far as fan, media and Ex cricketers is concerned, I told you earlier couple of performances of Amir will silence everybody... Now a days everybody in Pakistan has only praise for Amir

Inzi and other seniors are pushing PCB to fast track the other two before England series, they don't want another dismal show in England...Amir is making the pathway for other two, ironically they will face less resistance...

 

[JibranAnsari]

If asif has to come back then must come back in the england tour. We have three big series this year where the conditions will suit him. Next time we visit places like england australia or newzealand he will already be too old.

 

[Aman]

Well, now a days you play with two new balls in ODI, this helps bowler like Asif. Plus he will be key for next 10 tests on green in 16 months or so...Senior bowlers like Amir and Asif are key for future bowlers development. Other bowlers are going to learn a lot from them...They are very skillful in their art...Gulf between Amir and next Pakistani bowler(as a matter of fact many international bowlers) is so much that it has opened the eyes of many cricket fans all over the world!!! - You can honestly tell me, How many NZ bowlers are better than him?

As far as fan, media and Ex cricketers is concerned, I told you earlier couple of performances of Amir will silence everybody... Now a days everybody in Pakistan has only praise for Amir

Inzi and other seniors are pushing PCB to fast track the other two before England series, they don't want another dismal show in England...Amir is making the pathway for other two, ironically they will face less resistance...

[MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] stop getting ahead of yourself. Amir has still plenty to prove, right now he is clearly a bowler who hasn't done much aside of wickets that have been favorable. The only reason I've given him the benefit of the doubt is because of his extra pace and skill sett, in terms of actual performance (i.e. what counts most) he's still behind Matt Henry (ODI's) and Boult (Tests).

 

[Aman]

It's good to see you some so cheerful about an individuals performance on the day Pakistan were KOed out of a tournament by Bangladesh.

McCullum broke a world record in his last Test, yet it's been forgotten as people are so depressed about being so comprehensively outplayed by Australia.

 

[yasir]

[MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] stop getting ahead of yourself. Amir has still plenty to prove, right now he is clearly a bowler who hasn't done much aside of wickets that have been favorable. The only reason I've given him the benefit of the doubt is because of his extra pace and skill sett, in terms of actual performance (i.e. what counts most) he's still behind Matt Henry (ODI's) and Boult (Tests).

He out bowled Henry in Odi series we had with you guys, that's the only series he had played so far...

In test we will see this summer in England...he has not played any test after return... I don't recall Boult has bowled spells like 17 year old Amir, did he? - I have not seen him bowl in test that much.

I think your best bowler is Mline but he is injury prone and cannot play test, he would make others look good. You need a terror bowler in test attack...


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[gunner]

Asif might not have played a lot of t20 matches but he was quite decent in that format.

 

[Aman]

He out bowled Henry in Odi series we had with you guys, that's the only series he had played so far...

In test we will see this summer in England...he has not played any test after return... I don't recall Boult has bowled spells like 17 year old Amir, did he? - I have not seen him bowl in test that much.

I think your best bowler is Mline but he is injury prone and cannot play test, he would make others look good. You need a terror bowler in test attack...


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Actually, we won't learn anything in England, we all know how good he is in favorable conditions. His true test will come in Aus, where the wickets will be slabs and the batsmen will be going after him. Whether he's successful or not will give us an indication if he's the real deal or not (ATG material). Out bowling Henry in one series means nothing, Henry was instrumental in us beating Aus a series later.

 

[yasir]

Actually, we won't learn anything in England. His true test will come in Aus, where the wickets will be slabs and the batsmen will be going after him. Whether he's successful or not will give us an indication if he's the real deal or not (ATG material). Out bowling Henry in one series means nothing, Henry was instrumental in us beating Aus a series later.

I agree ATG is a whole different category, for that you have to play for atleast 6/8 years of test cricket.... I cannot make such bold claim before that many years... He has skill but that does not mean he can be injury free and sustain that for 6/8 years.


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[TalentSpotterPk]

Meanwhile Mohammad Asif is leading Sialkot team beautifully. (Slang)


Sialkot have qualified for the semifinal and in his leadership they may become champions of QEA trophy grade 2 the way they are playing.


Sialkot have two bowlers who are in contention for England test tour. Asif and Abbass. Asif & Abbass shared 10 wickets amongst them on a flat dead wicket but semifinal and final wickets will suit Asif more.


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[yamibone]

He won't be given a visa to play in England and its doubtful Amir will either.