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First Test between India and England ends in a nail-biting draw

Is Ashwin the world number 1 still?

He's been comfortably the worst spin bowler in the match.
 
Why are India wasting time? (Spurious reviews, Umesh pulling out in his delivery stride).

This might be their only chance to win a Test against us in this series!
 
James said:
Is Ashwin the world number 1 still?

He's been comfortably the worst spin bowler in the match.
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He won't be after this match. Probably will lose 30-40 rating points after this. Interestingly, both Yasir and Ashwin have had shockingly poor games immediately after they became No.1
 
Junaids said:
Why are India wasting time? (Spurious reviews, Umesh pulling out in his delivery stride).

This might be their only chance to win a Test against us in this series!
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Lmao :))

Nice to see an appearance
 
Lol don't listen to Ravi Shastri and fall for the trap guys..

Let's get ready for a blockathon.:amla
 
James said:
Is Ashwin the world number 1 still?

He's been comfortably the worst spin bowler in the match.
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Ashwin has been spoiled by the wickets he has been fed over the past couple of years he is a quality bowler who will eventually find way around these type of pitches but at the moment he is cluless the moment the pitch does not offer quick spin.
 
India should win this game.. They should win by 5-0 this series. Indian fans will be very disappointed even if there is one draw. Come on Kohli.
 
kohli has aleady calculated the chase in his mind :))
If at all India is thinking about chasing the target, kohli needs to come one down.
 
Kohli will absolutely go for it. Dead pitch - 300 in 49 overs @6 is absolutely doable for Indian batsmen.

Brave declaration by Cook. I'd have waited another 5 overs.

Good cricketing spirit.
 
Corridor of Uncertainty said:
Kohli will absolutely go for it. Dead pitch - 300 in 49 overs @6 is absolutely doable for Indian batsmen.

Brave declaration by Cook. I'd have waited another 5 overs.

Good cricketing spirit.
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Not a dead pitch by any means. It's just that England scored that many runs today because of no pressure. There was turn and uneven bounce.
 
Good bit of commentary on BBC
"Cook and Ashwin are two of cricket's great tonguers. Ashwin sticks his out when he delivers the ball, Cook gives a lick when he plays a stroke. It's like two snakes going at it. "
 
It's not a dead pitch, there is slow turn.

You can easily bat 50 overs without trouble but you're a goner if you decide to go for the target here. Rashid will be a handful here.
 
Good bye GG for the service as Indian Opener - 2nd career plan should be in politics.
 
JaDed said:
Indian test team is not up for chase.
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It's a no win situation for them. For the sake of saying, say IND reaches 88/1 after 10 - Cook will simply slow the game & go for defense. But, in that effort, it can be 57/5 - couple of hours of unnecessary discomfort.

That declaration was as poor as it can be - just after when his chance of cashing some soft runs was over. Cook can sell the idea of knocking 10 Indian wickets in 50 overs to his mama only (even wife won't trust him).
 
Excellent start by England. Keeping it tight and not giving away anything. When India came out yesterday they gave away easy singles and before you knew it England were 50/0 and the game had slipped.
 
MMHS said:
It's a no win situation for them. For the sake of saying, say IND reaches 88/1 after 10 - Cook will simply slow the game & go for defense. But, in that effort, it can be 57/5 - couple of hours of unnecessary discomfort.

That declaration was as poor as it can be - just after when his chance of cashing some soft runs was over. Cook can sell the idea of knocking 10 Indian wickets in 50 overs to his mama only (even wife won't trust him).
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True hope Kohli swallows his pride and goes for a draw rather than chasing today.
 
To hell with Kumble's rules. He is acting like Andy Flower here.

Rahul should be playing the 2nd test ahead of the walking wicket Gambhir. Instead he is playing for Karnataka now while India have to play with 10 players at Vizag.:facepalm:
 
Mukund is averaging 63 as an opener this Ranji season. Herwadkar averages 60.

Yet we are stuck with Gambhir.
 
street cricketer said:
To hell with Kumble's rules. He is acting like Andy Flower here.

Rahul should be playing the 2nd test ahead of the walking wicket Gambhir. Instead he is playing for Karnataka now while India have to play with 10 players at Vizag.:facepalm:
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What is Kumble rule?
 
Anybody reckon Kohli can chase this down?
 
street cricketer said:
That anybody coming after an injury rehabilitation should prove his fitness by playing one or two Ranji games before getting selected for the national team.
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That means, he knows some historical secret more than us. Kumble is the most sane head in Indian cricket - if he had set some rule, must have a reason. Nothing wrong in that rule - selectors goofed up with wrong choice.
 
MMHS said:
That means, he knows some historical secret more than us. Kumble is the most sane head in Indian cricket - if he had set some rule, must have a reason. Nothing wrong in that rule - selectors goofed up with wrong choice.
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I can see the reasoning behind it. He doesn't want a Dale Steyn like situation. But think he could relax it a bit for batsmen. There is no reserve opener in the squad now and we would have to carry Gambhir to Vizag now.

Truth be told, the selectors should have given a chance to Mukund or Herwadkar keeping the overseas tours next year in mind.
 
No.Kohli will not chase it, if he wanted to, he would have come down at 3
 
India only took 13 wickets in 233 overs bowled.

Unless they open up the lottery of preparing square turners, they really should go for it in this match, because it might be India's only sniff of a path to victory in the whole series.
 
Probably Ansari will be dropped in 2nd Test - Cook is trolling here.
 
Lol why are they taking chances.

Kohli should swallow his ego here. Looks like he wants to chase it like at Adelaide. I'm afraid it's a suicidal tactic.
 
Junaids said:
India only took 13 wickets in 233 overs bowled.

Unless they open up the lottery of preparing square turners, they really should go for it in this match, because it might be India's only sniff of a path to victory in the whole series.
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You are saying, in next 4 Tests, IND will not have any slightest chance (sniff) to win a Test?
 
Gamby Bear will come good, give him time.

Indian Kami that guy minus wk skills.
 
street cricketer said:
Lol why are they taking chances.

Kohli should swallow his ego here. Looks like he wants to chase it like at Adelaide. I'm afraid it's a suicidal tactic.
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They are not going for the chase for sure. They are just making sure Ansari doesn't get the confidence to settle down.
 
MMHS said:
You are saying, in next 4 Tests, IND will not have any slightest chance (sniff) to win a Test?
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If they prepare square turners, yes of course they will. But that is a lottery.

If they prepare more flat UAE-style pitches, probably this is India's only chance. I know that England have lost 5 of the last 6 Tests in the UAE, but they came fairly close to winning 4 of those. And the more they play in these conditions, the better they get.
 
Who will be MoM? My choice is duel selection - Pujara & Vijay pair.
 
Must have used Fevicol on the wicket - this is Day 5, post lunch wicket!!!!!!
 
Junaids said:
India only took 13 wickets in 233 overs bowled.

Unless they open up the lottery of preparing square turners, they really should go for it in this match, because it might be India's only sniff of a path to victory in the whole series.
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LOL. The last time India played 5 consecutive Tests in India without winning any was in 1987 when Pakistan won a 5 Test series 1-0.
 
Junaids said:
If they prepare square turners, yes of course they will. But that is a lottery.

If they prepare more flat UAE-style pitches, probably this is India's only chance. I know that England have lost 5 of the last 6 Tests in the UAE, but they came fairly close to winning 4 of those. And the more they play in these conditions, the better they get.
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Boss, your confidence would have been 20% had Cook lost the toss on 1st morning. What Pujara-Vijay did on 3rd day is exceptional - don't expect your lot to do that after 2 days fielding & facing 550.

India's strategy of wicket for this Test was perfect - after watching ENG against BD spinners, they took out any chance of English win by making a compact wicket. Next Test, I am sure the wicket will assist spinners a bit more, but not to the level that part-timers competes with Ash-Jad.

You better pray that Cook wins the next 4 ........toss.
 
MMHS said:
Kumble is the most sane head in Indian cricket - if he had set some rule, must have a reason. Nothing wrong in that rule - selectors goofed up with wrong choice.
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I used to think that, and like you I was wrong.

It was Kumble whose response to his batting collapsing like a Girls Under-10's team at Sydney in 2007-08 was to try to portray Australia as unsportsmanlike - in spite of his own team's Monkeygate antics - and to threaten to go home. It's the reason why such huge numbers of non-Indian Australians to this day have a genuine, visceral dislike for the Indian team (as opposed to the playful teasing-your-cousins rivalry with England, New Zealand and South Africa).

And it was Kumble who obstructed anti-Conflict of Interest regulations in India because they threatened his own multiple roles.

He seems sane because he's more educated than the others. But to be honest I just find him devious and someone whose motivations always need to be questioned.

I have no such problems with Dravid or Laxman. But Kumble?
 
MMHS said:
Boss, your confidence would have been 20% had Cook lost the toss on 1st morning. What Pujara-Vijay did on 3rd day is exceptional - don't expect your lot to do that after 2 days fielding & facing 550.

India's strategy of wicket for this Test was perfect - after watching ENG against BD spinners, they took out any chance of English win by making a compact wicket. Next Test, I am sure the wicket will assist spinners a bit more, but not to the level that part-timers competes with Ash-Jad.

You better pray that Cook wins the next 4 ........toss.
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The English spinners have bowled better than the Indian spinners this test, if it was a turner instead of the pitch it is what makes you think India would have been so much more dominant?
 
Lol looks like [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is having a long day after the Aus-SA match was called off and is laying out the bait for Indian posters instead of Aussie ones.:srini
 
MMHS said:
Boss, your confidence would have been 20% had Cook lost the toss on 1st morning. What Pujara-Vijay did on 3rd day is exceptional - don't expect your lot to do that after 2 days fielding & facing 550.

India's strategy of wicket for this Test was perfect - after watching ENG against BD spinners, they took out any chance of English win by making a compact wicket. Next Test, I am sure the wicket will assist spinners a bit more, but not to the level that part-timers competes with Ash-Jad.

You better pray that Cook wins the next 4 ........toss.
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But Jadeja IS a part-timer. He is barely a better bowler than Yuvraj Singh or Aamer Sohail or Asif Mujtaba - he has just taken a lot of wickets on customised square turners at home. But if India produce such wickets they will make Ansari just as lethal as Jadeja.
 
HitWicket said:
The English spinners have bowled better than the Indian spinners this test, if it was a turner instead of the pitch it is what makes you think India would have been so much more dominant?
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The Indian batting, I'd say is stronger against spin that the England one. Though they are bound to have a collapse in a series.
 
What happened to samit patel ??
I think he could do quite well as a spinner on a typical Indian rank turner with his fastish roundarmers.
 
HitWicket said:
The English spinners have bowled better than the Indian spinners this test, if it was a turner instead of the pitch it is what makes you think India would have been so much more dominant?
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I explained that, you didn't notice. Bowling with 550 at hand after 2 days of cricket is a bit different. IND would have been more than dominant for their superior batting skills against persistent spin. ENG spinners bowled well here because they were not attacked facing a big total - let them bowl first, you will see a repeat of what BD top order did to them on an absolute turner.
 
HitWicket said:
The English spinners have bowled better than the Indian spinners this test, if it was a turner instead of the pitch it is what makes you think India would have been so much more dominant?
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Because they have better pedigree?

The Indian pacers have outbowled the English ones, does that make the Indian pacers superior?:srini
 
street cricketer said:
Lol looks like [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is having a long day after the Aus-SA match was called off and is laying out the bait for Indian posters instead of Aussie ones.:srini
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Definitely!

But there's a serious point here. I have said consistently that if England had picked Pietersen and Panesar they would win easily like they did last time they toured India.

But even without them, they are not going to be the pushovers that Australia and South Africa were. The very fact that we produce bowlers like Swann and Panesar and before them Emburey and Edmonds and even Batty means that our own batters get used to playing decent spin at home.
 
Junaids said:
But Jadeja IS a part-timer. He is barely a better bowler than Yuvraj Singh or Aamer Sohail or Asif Mujtaba - he has just taken a lot of wickets on customised square turners at home. But if India produce such wickets they will make Ansari just as lethal as Jadeja.
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You are exposing yourself - I won't be surprised if some Indian goes under your skin here. You should have checked his stats (Yes, out side home) first.
 
The way the pitch is behaving now, it should should have started behaving like this yesterday. Would have been a perfect pitch then. Just a bit late.
 
[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=141520]troodon[/MENTION]
Hope u been listening to the commies about the pitch in the last hour.
Also, indian could have easily been 3 down here. So if they had 60 odd overs to face....
 
MMHS said:
You are exposing yourself - I won't be surprised if some Indian goes under your skin here. You should have checked his stats (Yes, out side home) first.
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Pardon?

Jadeja has 67 wickets in 13 home Tests at an average of 18.73.
And 21 wickets in 8 away Tests at an average of 41.80.

Doesn't that really just prove my point? :)
 
I'll never ride a car with Dharmasena driving - must be a nervous man.
 
Junaids said:
Definitely!

But there's a serious point here. I have said consistently that if England had picked Pietersen and Panesar they would win easily like they did last time they toured India.

But even without them, they are not going to be the pushovers that Australia and South Africa were. The very fact that we produce bowlers like Swann and Panesar and before them Emburey and Edmonds and even Batty means that our own batters get used to playing decent spin at home.
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KP and Panesar would have strengthened the series but India would still win it. You have to keep in mind that half the Indian team were past it or not test pedigee 4 years ago which is not the case now barring Gambhir.
 
Still not too sure about people saying Panesar shouldve been picked, the fact he can't get in Northants team (in division 2) and has been struggling in county 2nd XI probably suggests he may have lost it.
 
Junaids said:
Pardon?

Jadeja has 67 wickets in 13 home Tests at an average of 18.73.
And 21 wickets in 8 away Tests at an average of 41.80.

Doesn't that really just prove my point? :)
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Moeen Ali's whole career average is like that & he is England's prime spinner. And Rashid's average is 51 before this Test. ........................ Then Asif Mujtaba has taken 4 wickets in 25 Tests.
 
Bengaluru said:
My god the commentary is annoying. Smug so and so's Nasser and Botham.
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There shouldn't be more than one England commentator in the box maximum.

Bring back Ganguly and Dravid!
 
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