Game of Thrones [SPOILER ALERT]

[GoUgandaCranes]

That will be the twist. Drogon is a lot more powerful than the other two. So if Drogon is turned it would be an even fight.

Knight King may not be pure evil, we don't know much about him. GOT has not address key pieces of his story line, what he wants? Why they are back after 4000 years? - Maybe that will be addressed in Season 8, when whole focus will be on him. GOT is an adult show, politics key part of the Drama, we have very few pure evil guys.

see. now we are talking.

it would be boring if it ends any other way. also because no matter who ends at the throne, the story will remain on going. just as in, say for example, if the story started during the time of robert's rebellion against targarayens with robert sitting at the throne in the end with a lannister wife.

only took like 14 years or so to become total chaos again.

if it ends with walkers and dragons etc, and all humans ended, it will definitely be a definitive end. wun wun and hodor can also take turns on sitting on the iron throne.

and all dead people would be equal. i do however have a soft spot for jaquin hagar, so i'd let him live, but he'd live as a faceless man who'd have many faces and will just be friends with the hodor and wun wun.

perfect ending.

 

[Stewie]

The Night King looked like just an average man, before the children of the forest stabbed him with dragon glass, i think it was and turned him into the first white walker. I think he is just on a revenge mission since then. He has wiped out all the children of the forest in the north and now wants to get south of the wall to finsih off the rest of them. There is a theory that the isle of faces at Gods eye is their last strong hold because thats where all the remaining weird wood trees are (thats what the children worship) ... he wants to get their and finish off the rest of them. He might be looking for a way to get his humanity back as well.

I hope they get that cleared out this season.

 

[Syed1]

The Night King looked like just an average man, before the children of the forest stabbed him with dragon glass, i think it was and turned him into the first white walker. I think he is just on a revenge mission since then. He has wiped out all the children of the forest in the north and now wants to get south of the wall to finsih off the rest of them. There is a theory that the isle of faces at Gods eye is their last strong hold because thats where all the remaining weird wood trees are (thats what the children worship) ... he wants to get their and finish off the rest of them. He might be looking for a way to get his humanity back as well.

I hope they get that cleared out this season.

I think he belonged to a high family and had king's blood. He wasn't an average Joe..

 

[Red Devil]

All I want to see is the CleganeBowl.

 

[James]

The Night's King has no secretive agenda in my opinion. He is like an Agent Smith character - utterly amoral, 100% nihilistic and seeks to return the world to zero. He exists only to end the existence of everything and everyone else.

 

[Leo23]

night king is a former lord commander of the night watch

 

[Leo23]

my theory:

bran and the ghost of ned stark will reveal to snow that he is a targaryen crown prince.

khaleesi will command snow to bend the knee and swear allegiance to her cause and hand over the north.

he will refuse and he will tell her that he is the rightful heir to the iron throne but she will not believe. she will go "mad" and decide to burn him alive. tyrion is jon's friend and he will resist. khaleesi will throw both of them in the fire but they will not burn like true TARGARYENS

khaleesi and snow will get married

all three of them will ride the dragons and eliminate the white walkers first. arya will go to winterfell and save sansa from little finger who will be her victim because he conspired to kill her father and was also going to kill sansa to claim the north

sansa will be queen of north

sam will cure mormont and they will ride together to kings landing

in kings landing once cersei realizes that there is no hope for her she will decide to burn the city. jamie will become queen slayer this time and save the city by killing her. but he will also take his own life and die as a hero who redeemed himself

before that there will obviously be a war and mormont will fight bravely but die as a hero. reek will also redeem himself by freeing yara from the red keep who will be euron's hostage. he or yara will kill him. reek will die in the battle and yara will become the queen of iron islands

jon targayren will sit on the iron throne and khaleesi will be his queen. tyrion will be hand of the king and sam will be the grand maester. varys will do what he does best.

the starks will unite in winterfell and the wildlings will live in the north. there will no longer be a night watch because there is nothing to protect north of the wall.

THE END

 

[yasir]

The Night King looked like just an average man, before the children of the forest stabbed him with dragon glass, i think it was and turned him into the first white walker. I think he is just on a revenge mission since then. He has wiped out all the children of the forest in the north and now wants to get south of the wall to finsih off the rest of them. There is a theory that the isle of faces at Gods eye is their last strong hold because thats where all the remaining weird wood trees are (thats what the children worship) ... he wants to get their and finish off the rest of them. He might be looking for a way to get his humanity back as well.

I hope they get that cleared out this season.

That does not explain why he waited for 4000 years? Children of Forest and specifically Leaf(the COF who stabbed him with Dragon Glass) herself existed for all those years. Was he waiting for Bran(who at the time was child) to commit a mistake, so that he can pass the gate of Children of Forest strong hold??

There is randomness and uncertainty about WW appearance/disappearance and motives. GOT started with WWs killing scene and after 63+ hours and 5 books, we still don't why they are here, that bothers me :


I hope its not "Khooda Phar Nikla Choya" :

 

[Leo23]

That does not explain why he waited for 4000 years? Children of Forest and specifically Leaf(the COF who stabbed him with Dragon Glass) herself existed for all those years. Was he waiting for Bran(who at the time was child) to commit a mistake, so that he can pass the gate of Children of Forest strong hold??

There is randomness and uncertainty about WW appearance/disappearance and motives. GOT started with WWs killing scene and after 63+ hours and 5 books, we still don't why they are here, that bothers me :


I hope its not "Khooda Phar Nikla Choya" :

martin and the hbo directors will leave that to our imagination so that once the thing is over we will still have something to scratch our heads over. not everything story line needs a closure. the motivation of white walkers should remain a mystery

 

[Stewie]

my theory:

bran and the ghost of ned stark will reveal to snow that he is a targaryen crown prince.

khaleesi will command snow to bend the knee and swear allegiance to her cause and hand over the north.

he will refuse and he will tell her that he is the rightful heir to the iron throne but she will not believe. she will go "mad" and decide to burn him alive. tyrion is jon's friend and he will resist. khaleesi will throw both of them in the fire but they will not burn like true TARGARYENS

khaleesi and snow will get married

all three of them will ride the dragons and eliminate the white walkers first. arya will go to winterfell and save sansa from little finger who will be her victim because he conspired to kill her father and was also going to kill sansa to claim the north

sansa will be queen of north

sam will cure mormont and they will ride together to kings landing

in kings landing once cersei realizes that there is no hope for her she will decide to burn the city. jamie will become queen slayer this time and save the city by killing her. but he will also take his own life and die as a hero who redeemed himself

before that there will obviously be a war and mormont will fight bravely but die as a hero. reek will also redeem himself by freeing yara from the red keep who will be euron's hostage. he or yara will kill him. reek will die in the battle and yara will become the queen of iron islands

jon targayren will sit on the iron throne and khaleesi will be his queen. tyrion will be hand of the king and sam will be the grand maester. varys will do what he does best.

the starks will unite in winterfell and the wildlings will live in the north. there will no longer be a night watch because there is nothing to protect north of the wall.

THE END

thats weak dude. You are making him marry his aunt? come on, now!

lol


No i dont think this will happen. I dont think there will be a king or queen. I think the show will lean towards democracy at the end. Individual realms will pick their own rulers. then there will be a recount and people will complain about winning the popular votes, etc, etc, hahaha

 

[Stewie]

one thing is for sure, something did trigger the WW to wake up. I think they were dormant all these years and something woke them up. They were awake before the events of Bran falling down and becoming a cripple and before Khaleesi finding the dragons, so those two theories go out the window. It has to be something else. that happened at the same time or before Jon Arryn's death. Its quite possible it was something we do not know of at all.

I have a feeling the followers of the lord of light may have something to do with it. But i dont think its as simple as WW being just your average Nihilistic army bent on destruction of anything and everything. I do believe they have a purpose and are driven by something.

 

[yasir]

I think he belonged to a high family and had king's blood. He wasn't an average Joe..

There is a good chance that Knight King was a Strak. Targaren and Straks have some sort of super magical blood. They are Fire and Ice. Jon is embodiment of both, that's why he is prime candidate for 'Azor Ahai', it was very obvious after last episode of season 6, his stock raised to a whole new level when his parentage was revealed. You knew at that point, no matter what happen, he is not going to die, even in the very last episode.

 

[Leo23]

thats weak dude. You are making him marry his aunt? come on, now!

lol


No i dont think this will happen. I dont think there will be a king or queen. I think the show will lean towards democracy at the end. Individual realms will pick their own rulers. then there will be a recount and people will complain about winning the popular votes, etc, etc, hahaha

they are targayrens. anything goes in their family

 

[Syed1]

There is a good chance that Knight King was a Strak. Targaren and Straks have some sort of super magical blood. They are Fire and Ice. Jon is embodiment of both, that's why he is prime candidate for 'Azor Ahai', it was very obvious after last episode of season 6, his stock raised to a whole new level when his parentage was revealed. You knew at that point, no matter what happen, he is not going to die, even in the very last episode.

Jon Snow being Azor Ahai would be too cliched and any average viewer would see it from a mile away. I have faith in the show and the author to not be that straight forward. It could be someone we least suspect at the moment.

 

[Stewie]

Jon Snow being Azor Ahai would be too cliched and any average viewer would see it from a mile away. I have faith in the show and the author to not be that straight forward. It could be someone we least suspect at the moment.

there is a bunch of prophecies.. i think people assume azor ahai is the same as the promised prince and what not. I believe azor ahai is Danereys and the promised prince is Jon Snow.
I also think Tyrion is actually Aegon, so he is Snow's half brother. He could be the promised prince as well.

Look at us, discussing fantasy like a bunch of 16 year old girls. whats your favorite my little pony, Syed1?

 

[90MPH]

Another decent episode.

Pace is really starting to pick up now.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Leading up to something amazing

 

[SpiritOf1903]

For all its weirdness the suspense should be enough but they just have to include some porn.

 

[90MPH]

For all its weirdness the suspense should be enough but they just have to include some porn.

Totally agree.

If there is one firm of criticism of GOT it's the unnecessary strong sexual scenes.

Yes sure show some mild forms of has to be shown but it's goes over the top at times.

 

[90MPH]

Btw what's everyone's favourite scene from all of GOT ??

Mine has to be the Dragon swooping in and saving the queen from the masked invaders in season 5. And then getting roasted and chopped up.

Epic scene, along with the fantastic background music.

 

[Stewie]

Shot of snow facing the Bolton army charging towards him while he stands alone... from the battle of the ********...

https://goo.gl/images/UmWKXL

 

[kingusama92]

Totally agree.

If there is one firm of criticism of GOT it's the unnecessary strong sexual scenes.

Yes sure show some mild forms of has to be shown but it's goes over the top at times.

GOT is not supposed to be mild.

If you can handle a man's limbs getting chopped off, you can handle a bit of sex.

I mean watch that Oberyn Martell scene with The Mountain. Need I say more?

 

[Stewie]

That was tragic. I wanted Oberyn to really win and kill that mountain. He killed him but didn't win.

 

[James]

The sex scene this week was not unnecessary, OTT or pornographic. For once it was more of a romantic scene.

 

[90MPH]

GOT is not supposed to be mild.

If you can handle a man's limbs getting chopped off, you can handle a bit of sex.

I mean watch that Oberyn Martell scene with The Mountain. Need I say more?

Never said the violence was supposed to be mild but that doesn't mean you need to show strong Sexual content, compared to any other to Tv series for instance.

Most of the time it goes over the top - that's just my opinion and many I know share this criticism of GOT.

But if some enjoy it or feel it makes the show what it is then I respect their opinion as well.

 

[Stewie]

It's the shock and awe and aww factors .... get it ??

 

[idrizzy]

Pace of the show is intentionally changed, they could have easily fit 10 episodes, amount of stuff they are covering appears to be same size. I think the main reason of faster pace is to keep audience intact in last two seasons, this brings sort of newness to the show, ratings of season 7 will be up because of the pace!!

I believe they've traded off quantity for quality, and that's why S7 will have less episodes - which I was completely thrilled with having read the initial news. The less episodes means, yes a gathering of pace, but also means more action and less talking/plotting. I mean, I found information in S5/S6 quite interesting but a lot of the time it was mostly a boring plot/storyline to a certain character which tarnished the outlook of the whole episode. However, now everyone has a role to play and it's all shaping up nicely, and they can't afford to add extras' storylines because of the shortened season.

In short: more of what we love, less of what we hate, and it's great.

 

[idrizzy]

Good episode but the plot is all over the place.

If anyone can answer these please.

1. If the sea is frozen and the white walkers are just going to walk around as Genghis Khan did against the great wall of China, why does John Snow and his people continuously say 'if they breach the wall' etc.. Why haven't they managed to do this in this past?

2. How can a fleet of ships just approach another fleet without getting spotted? I know it was dark but surely they would have some methods of looking out for enemy ships approaching?

3. John Snow made it clear dragon glass is needed but his followers were telling him not to go? Sure they worry for his life but they are all dead anyway if he doesnt go.

1. Usually the WW's can't breach the wall because the wall is protected by spells. That means nothing dead can come this side of the wall. This means the only way they can cross the wall is to break the wall. It was also shown in the series where Sam found a horn beyond the wall, and that supposedly could bring the wall down too. If the WW's do walk around the wall, I'll be very unimpressed but it is what it is. Why they didn't do this before is because of "the long night" as in, "winter has come". They can breach the wall and so forth with winter last so long now, so have no worries regarding the change in seasons.

2. I believe it's due to visibility issues. But I agree it was a bit strange how they didn't notice a horde of ships coming their way. But I still blame visibility issues.

3. I think Jon Snow explained it to everyone pretty clearly: they don't know how strong the WW's are - practically invincible - so dragonstone is a MUST. They all sort of understood after his mini speech - they're just fearful because they don't want him to die.

 

[waqar goraya]

Btw what's everyone's favourite scene from all of GOT ??

Mine has to be the Dragon swooping in and saving the queen from the masked invaders in season 5. And then getting roasted and chopped up.

Epic scene, along with the fantastic background music.

The death of Ygritte. " You don't know Jon Snow ". The fighting scenes were amazing with a touch of heart in the end.

The battle with the White Walkers. It had a very eerie beginning and a very sinister end when Jon sees Knight King extending his shoulders to awake the dead. I enjoyed it more than the battle of the ********.

 

[yasir]

Never said the violence was supposed to be mild but that doesn't mean you need to show strong Sexual content, compared to any other to Tv series for instance.

Most of the time it goes over the top - that's just my opinion and many I know share this criticism of GOT.

But if some enjoy it or feel it makes the show what it is then I respect their opinion as well.

You are ok with violence but not with sex, they both are equal(good or bad) in many ways. That's kind of beauty of HBO canvas, they use both of these(violence and Sex) medium of expression strongly to narrate story and depict emotions. There are very few medium available to express human emotions (both good or bad) that are better than Violence and Sex, specially when audience are also Human

 

[90MPH]

You are ok with violence but not with sex, they both are equal(good or bad) in many ways. That's kind of beauty of HBO canvas, they use both of these(violence and Sex) medium of expression strongly to narrate story and depict emotions. There are very few medium available to express human emotions (both good or bad) that are better than Violence and Sex, specially when audience are also Human

Yes I'm ok with one and not the other. Thanks for twisting my words.

Read what I said again. I didn't I was ok with one and not the other.

God I say one thing about GOT that I disagree where it goes OTT at times and some of you think I have committed blasmpahey against the show.

It's one of the greatest to shows I have seen but it's not perfect and we can discuss the imperfections.

 

[Stewie]

Yes I'm ok with one and not the other. Thanks for twisting my words.

Read what I said again. I didn't I was ok with one and not the other.

God I say one thing about GOT that I disagree where it goes OTT at times and some of you think I have committed blasmpahey against the show.

It's one of the greatest to shows I have seen but it's not perfect and we can discuss the imperfections.

You may not like it but there is a huge section of fans who do. Human taste is a very diverse topic, you cannot pigeonhole everyone. Others might like the open portrayal of sex but not the violence. Some may like everything. The producers cater to the areas most liked though so this is one area where they are definitely doing well.

 

[90MPH]

You may not like it but there is a huge section of fans who do. Human taste is a very diverse topic, you cannot pigeonhole everyone. Others might like the open portrayal of sex but not the violence. Some may like everything. The producers cater to the areas most liked though so this is one area where they are definitely doing well.

Oh god here comes another one, I didnt "pigeonhole" everyone or anyone so stop Making Up stuff, I just expressed my opinion on personally One aspect of the the show that's goes over the top.

Is that too hard for you to grasp ?? And I wasn't adressing you either. He talked nonsense about me saying accepted one but not the other which I didn't say.

 

[TSA321]

Never said the violence was supposed to be mild but that doesn't mean you need to show strong Sexual content, compared to any other to Tv series for instance.

Most of the time it goes over the top - that's just my opinion and many I know share this criticism of GOT.

But if some enjoy it or feel it makes the show what it is then I respect their opinion as well.

I think even the creators realised it was too ott, that's why they cut down on it hugely after the first few seasons.

 

[90MPH]

I think even the creators realised it was too ott, that's why they cut down on it hugely after the first few seasons.

Exactly, Well that's just my observation of the show.

It's a controversial show but that doesn't we can not have different opinions on what content we like or dont like. If some like one and not the other it shouldn't be a problem.

Overall one of the greatest Tv shows made.

 

[Stewie]

Oh god here comes another one, I didnt "pigeonhole" everyone or anyone so stop Making Up stuff, I just expressed my opinion on personally One aspect of the the show that's goes over the top.

Is that too hard for you to grasp ?? And I wasn't adressing you either. He talked nonsense about me saying accepted one but not the other which I didn't say.

Your exact words were "they don't need to show" if that's not pigeonholing I don't know what is. Hence my comments

If you had said something along the lines of " I don't prefer to watch such stuff", I wouldn't have written that post. You are now changing your tune and tone.. but that's fine. Live and let live. At least we agree that it's a good show.

 

[90MPH]

Your exact words were "they don't need to show" if that's not pigeonholing I don't know what is. Hence my comments

If you had said something along the lines of " I don't prefer to watch such stuff", I wouldn't have written that post. You are now changing your tune and tone.. but that's fine. Live and let live. At least we agree that it's a good show. ��

Oh thanks for quoting part of the sentence, why don't you quote the full sentence instead of cherry picking it just to prove that your argument was correct ??

Anyway I will save you some time I said the word "strong" as well if you read the whole sentence so your argument about pigeonholing everyone is a nonsensical statement.

Yes it's a great show and glad to know we can agree on that but doesn't mean we have to agree on all the content on the show.

 

[TM Riddle]

Those who don't like the intercourse (thanks PP) part can choose to not watch the show.No one is forcing you.

 

[Stewie]

Those who don't like the intercourse (thanks PP) part can choose to not watch the show.No one is forcing you.

They just don't like the "strong" intercourse scenes. Weaker ones are ok, I am assuming.

Maybe such people can watch it on demand and just fast forward through such scenes.

 

[Stewie]

Some bad leaks out there for episode 6. A fight with the whities

 

[90MPH]

Those who don't like the intercourse (thanks PP) part can choose to not watch the show.No one is forcing you.

Really ? I thought you were forcing me with a gun to my head.

I can watchever show I like and criticise the show should I choose to because last time I checked this is a forum where discussions and disagreements are supposed to take plaice.

You said earlier that seasons 5 and 6 were crap which is utter nonsense in my opinion but you are allowed to express It and the same goes with me criticising whatever I want about the show. And mine was hardly saying it was crap but just saying one aspect went over the top.

So kindly keep your words of wisodm to yourself about choosing not to watch the show. I will watch it, praise it and if I have to criticise it just like anything in life.

 

[Stewie]

Holy crap, what an episode!

Too many hits for the good guys and some more character deaths! In cricket equivalent I would say the collapse of an. Innings is underway.

A bit underwhelmed with Jon Snow, I expected him to be a bit more fiery but he behaved like a sheepish kid in front of Danaerys.

All in all it was a decent episode!

 

[GenericBrand]

Cersei is like 5 steps ahead of Tyrion

Also, can't help but wonder how fast is Euron's fleet lol

 

[TM Riddle]

Euron is the man!
Okaish episode.A bit let down after the two brilliant ones that preceded it.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

My Man Davos stole the show !!

'This is John Snow............He's the The King in the North......' ) ) )

I was literally in splits

 

[SL_Fan]

I want my own drogon.

 

[Slog]

ive never been able to get the hoopla with this show

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

ive never been able to get the hoopla with this show

Majority of GOT fans are single folks with a linear life..... I'll let you fill in the rest

 

[Stewie]

Majority of GOT fans are single folks with a linear life..... I'll let you fill in the rest

... and here come the condescending naysayers...


Why the heck are you guys even on this thread if you don't like the show?
P.S, my wife and I love it! It's good escapist tv!

 

[Stewie]

ive never been able to get the hoopla with this show

Move along, then!
Thanks for coming..

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

... and here come the condescending naysayers...


Why the heck are you guys even on this thread if you don't like the show?
P.S, my wife and I love it! It's good escapist tv!

For the love of......

It was a joke dude !! Jesus !! smh.....

 

[Stewie]

For the love of......

It was a joke dude !! Jesus !! smh.....

Apologies then, ser Ahmed of house waqas!

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Apologies then, ser Ahmed of house waqas!

It's actually Waqas from house of Ahmed and the Sijil my lord, is that Avatar itself.

By your mannerism I conclude you're one from the Noble households as well.....

 

[Stewie]

It's actually Waqas from house of Ahmed and the Sijil my lord, is that Avatar itself.

By your mannerism I conclude you're one from the Noble households as well.....

Aye! I am lord Stewart from house Griffin and the sigil has our family dog Brian on it. He is a drunk ol chap but a nice fellow at heart..

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Absolutely amazing episode. Best of the season so far. Brilliant throughout but last 20 minutes were on another level. Only downside was that there was a lot of Daenerys throughout and she's my least favourite main character

 

[Stewie]

It focused on magnifying danaerys and Jon was sold short. He didn't talk back much to her and sort of meekly accepted he was a prisoner at dragon stone.

He is the king in the north. He should have broken a few dothraki jaws!

 

[WebGuru]

 

[TM Riddle]

Did anyone else notice when Jon and party are climbing towards Dragonstone and Tyrion mentions how the south is unlucky for the Starks and Jon retorts back with I'm not a Stark and the very next moment he ducks to save himself from the flying dragon which appears out of nowhere.

 

[Stewie]

Did anyone else notice when Jon and party are climbing towards Dragonstone and Tyrion mentions how the south is unlucky for the Starks and Jon retorts back with I'm not a Stark and the very next moment he ducks to save himself from the flying dragon which appears out of nowhere.

Wool.. Yeah.. He of course meant he is a stark but the dragons were a timely reminder of who he really is

 

[yasir]

Did anyone else notice when Jon and party are climbing towards Dragonstone and Tyrion mentions how the south is unlucky for the Starks and Jon retorts back with I'm not a Stark and the very next moment he ducks to save himself from the flying dragon which appears out of nowhere.

I bet you that was Rhaegar (the Dragon) flying over him at that moment - Rhaegar will be the Dragon of Jon Snow. I wanted to see mystical connection of Jon and Rhaegar, maybe it is too early...

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

ive never been able to get the hoopla with this show

I'd tell u why i like this show.

From a very long time, I've been a massive fan of the historical adventure genre however hollywood rarely if ever makes a good movie in this genre. It is often about one super hero, all muscles and what not taking down an empire - a typically formulaic movie with nothing out of the ordinary. The action sequences contain cliche after cliche with the good guy winning in the end and the girl ending up at his feet.

Then comes the matter of details, most of the times they are ignored and are overlooked at. CGI hasn't helped as it has made people even lazier.

There are also audience who favor mostly drama genre when it comes to watching television. There's a reason that Sopranos is considered the best show ever, or Breaking Bad if we talk about current history, and no action adventure movie ever wins an Oscar or gets critical acclaim.

Game of Thrones breaks that wall between fantasy and drama and builds a detailed narrative where there is hardly any differentiation between the good and evil. There aren't any villains, it's all based on circumstances - the good guys are barely any different from the bad ones.

I do feel that because of immense audience pressure from peer groups, and the Hollywood virus the show has gone closer to the cliche nature as every season has progressed. Starks have been painted as the white light, the good, and Cersei has been cast as an evil villain, and a greater threat outside the realm has threatened the morality conundrum nullifying a lot of political aspect of the show.

It was better when it wasn't this mainstream, but for the sheer scale of the project, the detailed oriented nature, the emphasis on world building, this show remains a trend setter for its genre. It would never get critical acclaim like Breaking Bad or Sopranos, but it in its very own ways remains an absolutely epic show that will probably stand the test of time.

Watch The Shanara Chronicles to see how badly the shows are made in this genre to get true perspective. It's riding the hype train atm, give it time, it has plenty of substance to even turn its greatest cynics and adversaries into admirers.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Did anyone feel disgusted as usually when Cercy is handing out her evil? Did anyone feel bad for the sand snakes?

I did not. They poised a little innoncent girl, so they deserve what they get imo.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Did anyone feel disgusted as usually when Cercy is handing out her evil? Did anyone feel bad for the sand snakes?

I did not. They poised a little innoncent girl, so they deserve what they get imo.

Not at all.

Cercie is the best character of the show, remarkable acting polishing off the excellent script written for her. The scene where she takes her revenge was one of the best ever in the show, what a way to take revenge. Must be one of the best villians in tv history.

Great episode. I know it's been a while but why doesn't Kaleesi or Tyrion have any idea about the white walkers? Surely this type of legend should be well known esp if dragon glass is buried under her house!
[MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] [MENTION=17315]Stewie[/MENTION] Can anyone tell me why the Iron Bank is so powerful? How was it formed and why can't a family just take it over but even with big armies they have to pay their debts?

Also I know it's been a while but why doesn't Kaleesi or Tyrion have any idea about the white walkers? Surely this type of legend should be well known esp if dragon glass is buried under her house!

The dead are taking so much time, they should be renamed slow walkers!

 

[Arham_PakFan]

I just watched the first 3 episodes of the first season.

Not bad but not that great either.

 

[yasir]

Not at all.

Cercie is the best character of the show, remarkable acting polishing off the excellent script written for her. The scene where she takes her revenge was one of the best ever in the show, what a way to take revenge. Must be one of the best villians in tv history.

Great episode. I know it's been a while but why doesn't Kaleesi or Tyrion have any idea about the white walkers? Surely this type of legend should be well known esp if dragon glass is buried under her house!
[MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] [MENTION=17315]Stewie[/MENTION] Can anyone tell me why the Iron Bank is so powerful? How was it formed and why can't a family just take it over but even with big armies they have to pay their debts?

Also I know it's been a while but why doesn't Kaleesi or Tyrion have any idea about the white walkers? Surely this type of legend should be well known esp if dragon glass is buried under her house!

The dead are taking so much time, they should be renamed slow walkers!

Iron Bank is located in free city of Braavos, where Arya lived for quite a while, its on the other side of Westros, in Essos continent. Location and defense of the Braavos is such that its hard to penetrate. Iron Bank is largest bank in the world of GOT, its like Switzerland in our world, its not wise nor easy to conquer. Also, Free cities have different political and evolutionary dynamics, most(if not all) of them are on the Essos...

Technology in that world is rudimentary and brut force type, Iron Bank is off the main Continent, in remote area and heavily fortified. Those are the reason people trust them. Even in that world you need neutral party...

WWs threat is only known to Jon, Wildlings, the people who have seen and faced them. If something happen 4000 years ago, people will not believe init all of a sudden. There is so much talk about WWs that as a viewer you feel like everybody should know about them by now, but they are visible in few story lines, others have no reason to believe them. There is no mass comm to alert everybody. North has begun to prepare about WW only this season after their King (Jon Snow) forced them. He himself would not have believed WWs, if he was not present at Battle of Hardhome...

Did you see how Jon was surprised by Dragon's presence and size? - That was the first time he saw them, how long Dragons are in the show?

Also, Cersi, Jammie and rest of the southern are/will be skeptical of WWs as well, if they all have seen them, they will be focused on defeating them first and foremost, maybe that is what season 8 is all about!!

 

[yasir]

Spoiler

Bran entry in to Winterfell was kind of cold, he did not show much emotion, he is really becoming a three eye Raven, devote of emotion and focus on wisdom...

When he said "I can see everything, that happen to anyone and what is happening right now", that explains those quick 5 second flashbacks(where he is going through so many threads in a quick time), he is learning how to interpret or focus on multiple threats quickly or simultaneously.

I wonder if they(Rest of Straks) will start using Bran to plan and discover truth about, well anything or person. For instance Bran can tell who Little Finger really is. He can help plan battles, you can be ahead of the game by using Bran's brain, He can also see in future as well, why not use it to your advantage. This is such a powerful weapon, 100X more powerful than Gold or Dragons :

 

[KingKhanWC]

Iron Bank is located in free city of Braavos, where Arya lived for quite a while, its on the other side of Westros, in Essos continent. Location and defense of the Braavos is such that its hard to penetrate. Iron Bank is largest bank in the world of GOT, its like Switzerland in our world, its not wise nor easy to conquer. Also, Free cities have different political and evolutionary dynamics, most(if not all) of them are on the Essos...

Technology in that world is rudimentary and brut force type, Iron Bank is off the main Continent, in remote area and heavily fortified. Those are the reason people trust them. Even in that world you need neutral party...

WWs threat is only known to Jon, Wildlings, the people who have seen and faced them. If something happen 4000 years ago, people will not believe init all of a sudden. There is so much talk about WWs that as a viewer you feel like everybody should know about them by now, but they are visible in few story lines, others have no reason to believe them. There is no mass comm to alert everybody. North has begun to prepare about WW only this season after their King (Jon Snow) forced them. He himself would not have believed WWs, if he was not present at Battle of Hardhome...

Did you see how Jon was surprised by Dragon's presence and size? - That was the first time he saw them, how long Dragons are in the show?

Also, Cersi, Jammie and rest of the southern are/will be skeptical of WWs as well, if they all have seen them, they will be focused on defeating them first and foremost, maybe that is what season 8 is all about!!

Thanks. I knew the location and it's not easy but still thought it could be conquered, there was no great army protecting it from what I can recall. Cercie mentioned she will pay off the debts the Lannisters owe but I was thinking what if she doesn't? They cant come and take it at will from the Queen but I suppose her credit rating will fall and will not be given any more money on loan.

Jon and the rest had heard about the dragons though, he was just a bit taken back by a beast flying over his head and understandably so. So Kaleesi is Johns auntie, I feel an inter family marriage might be on the cards later on lol.

The other issue I have is 3 dragons should have enough fire in their bellies to kill all the slow walkers? Of course Kaleesi has to agree to help once she is convinced of their existance. She should ride up north and see for herself. The dead dont have any weapon to take out flying dragons.

 

[Stewie]

It is kind of unbelievable that in medieval times like the one in this world you will have an organized financial institution like the iron bank, which is sort of like a cross between world bank, imf or some evil Swiss bank which prefers annonymity.

They shape and manipulate politician landscapes in the known world of GOT to ensure maximum profits. They were the backing behind slavery in the major cities of essos till danaerys stormed in and freed everybody. They are pretty cold and ruthless and have a reputation that they always collect what's due them by hook penny crook. While they are in essos, they are the main bank for the westerosi government as well.


So on one hand you have the island nation of the ironborne who are given a freehand with all the reaving, pillaging, pirating, etc and on one hand you have an organized place like the iron bank. It's worlds apart. Also considering how in the same continent they have the nomadic savages called dothraki running around, somehow makes it even harder to believe.

But hey, it's fantasy...

 

[Stewie]

By the way hackers had their way again and if the news are correct, the script for next weeks episode is already posted somewhere in the cyber space. Expect a lot of spoilers going around

 

[James]

Majority of GOT fans are single folks with a linear life..... I'll let you fill in the rest

Mine and my wife's favourite show.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It is kind of unbelievable that in medieval times like the one in this world you will have an organized financial institution like the iron bank, which is sort of like a cross between world bank, imf or some evil Swiss bank which prefers annonymity.

They shape and manipulate politician landscapes in the known world of GOT to ensure maximum profits. They were the backing behind slavery in the major cities of essos till danaerys stormed in and freed everybody. They are pretty cold and ruthless and have a reputation that they always collect what's due them by hook penny crook. While they are in essos, they are the main bank for the westerosi government as well.


So on one hand you have the island nation of the ironborne who are given a freehand with all the reaving, pillaging, pirating, etc and on one hand you have an organized place like the iron bank. It's worlds apart. Also considering how in the same continent they have the nomadic savages called dothraki running around, somehow makes it even harder to believe.

But hey, it's fantasy...

I was thinking the same for the Iron bank. The way Cercei was begging the banker to side with her shows they have some serious power. I would love to read upon the history of this in terms of the show.

Btw what currency do they use in GOT?

 

[ShadabFakhar]

I was thinking the same for the Iron bank. The way Cercei was begging the banker to side with her shows they have some serious power. I would love to read upon the history of this in terms of the show.

Btw what currency do they use in GOT?

They each have their own currencies, principally dinar and dirham.

 

[Stewie]

They each have their own currencies, principally dinar and dirham.

Lol. Mostly you just hear about gold or gold pieces or gold bars and what not. I am sure essos and westeros have their own coins as well because you see characters trading using coins all the time.

Except the white walkers, they probably use bitcoin

 

[KingKhanWC]

Haha, I wonder if they charge interests on loans.

Btw the old woman went out in style with her revelation to Jamie. Thug life.

 

[Stewie]

Haha, I wonder if they charge interests on loans.

Btw the old woman went out in style with her revelation to Jamie. Thug life.

Of course they do, how else would they make money. They are proper loan sharks.

And yeah lady olenna was a proper OG, yo!

 

[James]

Diana Rigg had the last laugh!!! All those years after being rudely killed off at the end of the Bond film she was in.

 

[Stewie]

Diana Rigg had the last laugh!!! All those years after being rudely killed off at the end of the Bond film she was in.

She has been immortalized as that Bond girl though. The one who bond married and couldn't save...

 

[KingKhanWC]

Jamie Lannister is probably the best general? Even ahead of John Snow imo. His move to trap the invaders into Castley Rock was epic. I wonder if the unsullied leader Missandaei will be captured and tortured. Easily the best combat warrors in the show.

 

[Stewie]

Jamie Lannister is probably the best general? Even ahead of John Snow imo. His move to trap the invaders into Castley Rock was epic. I wonder if the unsullied leader Missandaei will be captured and tortured. Easily the best combat warrors in the show.

Snow is heroic but far from being a smart general, he is more of the reluctant hero. Robb stark was the smart general. The young wolf had the likes of Jaime, tywin and others running for cover.

 

[Stewie]

Jamie Lannister is probably the best general? Even ahead of John Snow imo. His move to trap the invaders into Castley Rock was epic. I wonder if the unsullied leader Missandaei will be captured and tortured. Easily the best combat warrors in the show.

Missandei is not the leader of unsullied and she is not at casterly rock. She is at dragon stone and she is an advisor to danaerys. Grey worm is the leader of the unsullied