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Kashmir is just a paradigm of the suffering of indian Muslims
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3 Kashmiris tortured to death in Indian army custody: report
Three Kashmiris have been tortured to death while in army custody in Indian-occupied Kashmir (IOK), according to a report from The Associated Press (AP) on Saturday.
The report stated that according to locals and residents, the army had arrested “at least eight civilians” a day ago for interrogation in the wake of a Thursday attack on two army vehicles in Poonch that killed four and injured three Indian soldiers.
“Locals accused army personnel of torturing the three to death in a nearby military camp. The bodies were later handed to the local police who in turn contacted the families. Residents said the bodies bore marks of severe torture,” the report stated.
According to the families, the other five were moved to an army hospital after they were “severely tortured”.
The report said that according to local Mohammed Younis, soldiers had arrived at his Topa Peer village on Friday morning and held nine villagers, including two of his brothers and a cousin.
“An elderly man was let go, he said, but the others were ruthlessly beaten and electrocuted,” the report said.
Younis said his relatives were also “badly hurt due to torture” and were being treated in an army hospital.
The report added that videos reportedly showing the “torture of detained civilians” spread online hours after their detention and triggered “widespread anger”.
“Authorities cut off internet services on smart devices in Poonch and Rajouri on Saturday morning, a common tactic to dispel possible protests and discourage dissemination of the videos,” the report said.
Lt Col Suneel Bartwal, an Indian army spokesman, said he had no “input” about the circumstances surrounding the three deaths.
Meanwhile, the IOK government’s Information and Public Relations Department said that after the deaths were reported, “medico-legal formalities were conducted and legal action in this matter has been initiated by the appropriate authority”.
It added that the government had announced compensation for the deceased, as well as “compassionate appointments” for their next of kin.
“Senior police and civil officials visited the village and supervised the burials. Local officials said police would investigate the incident, in an attempt to pacify the villagers.
“Protests erupted in Srinagar, the region’s main city, with at least three pro-India Kashmiri political parties staging demonstrations against the killings,” the report further said.
Former IOK chief minister Mehbooba Mufti expressed concern over the killings.
According to the Kashmir Media Service, while talking to the media in Srinagar, she said Indian troops were committing the “worst kind of state terrorism in the territory”.
She said that the soldiers detained 15 people during the search operation, out of which three were “brutally tortured and martyred”, while the remaining 12 people were seriously injured at the time and were in hospitals.
Mufti said “heartbreaking videos” had emerged in which Indian soldiers could reportedly be seen throwing young people down and putting chilli on their wounds.
She said IOK was turned into an open prison where thousands, including imams, lawyers and journalists, were put in jails and employees were being fired from their jobs.
The Indian army in July 2020 had said its soldiers killed three unidentified “Pakistani terrorists” in IOK’s southern Shopian area. Police had said the July 18 encounter was a solo operation by the army.
About a month later, three families in Rajouri had identified the victims as their missing relatives using photographs of the bodies that circulated on social media. The families had filed a complaint with police, accusing soldiers of killing their relatives in a staged gunfight.
The families said the three men went to Shopian to work as labourers and were last heard from on July 17.
Source : Dawn News
Three Kashmiris have been tortured to death while in army custody in Indian-occupied Kashmir (IOK), according to a report from The Associated Press (AP) on Saturday.
The report stated that according to locals and residents, the army had arrested “at least eight civilians” a day ago for interrogation in the wake of a Thursday attack on two army vehicles in Poonch that killed four and injured three Indian soldiers.
“Locals accused army personnel of torturing the three to death in a nearby military camp. The bodies were later handed to the local police who in turn contacted the families. Residents said the bodies bore marks of severe torture,” the report stated.
According to the families, the other five were moved to an army hospital after they were “severely tortured”.
The report said that according to local Mohammed Younis, soldiers had arrived at his Topa Peer village on Friday morning and held nine villagers, including two of his brothers and a cousin.
“An elderly man was let go, he said, but the others were ruthlessly beaten and electrocuted,” the report said.
Younis said his relatives were also “badly hurt due to torture” and were being treated in an army hospital.
The report added that videos reportedly showing the “torture of detained civilians” spread online hours after their detention and triggered “widespread anger”.
“Authorities cut off internet services on smart devices in Poonch and Rajouri on Saturday morning, a common tactic to dispel possible protests and discourage dissemination of the videos,” the report said.
Lt Col Suneel Bartwal, an Indian army spokesman, said he had no “input” about the circumstances surrounding the three deaths.
Meanwhile, the IOK government’s Information and Public Relations Department said that after the deaths were reported, “medico-legal formalities were conducted and legal action in this matter has been initiated by the appropriate authority”.
It added that the government had announced compensation for the deceased, as well as “compassionate appointments” for their next of kin.
“Senior police and civil officials visited the village and supervised the burials. Local officials said police would investigate the incident, in an attempt to pacify the villagers.
“Protests erupted in Srinagar, the region’s main city, with at least three pro-India Kashmiri political parties staging demonstrations against the killings,” the report further said.
Former IOK chief minister Mehbooba Mufti expressed concern over the killings.
According to the Kashmir Media Service, while talking to the media in Srinagar, she said Indian troops were committing the “worst kind of state terrorism in the territory”.
She said that the soldiers detained 15 people during the search operation, out of which three were “brutally tortured and martyred”, while the remaining 12 people were seriously injured at the time and were in hospitals.
Mufti said “heartbreaking videos” had emerged in which Indian soldiers could reportedly be seen throwing young people down and putting chilli on their wounds.
She said IOK was turned into an open prison where thousands, including imams, lawyers and journalists, were put in jails and employees were being fired from their jobs.
The Indian army in July 2020 had said its soldiers killed three unidentified “Pakistani terrorists” in IOK’s southern Shopian area. Police had said the July 18 encounter was a solo operation by the army.
About a month later, three families in Rajouri had identified the victims as their missing relatives using photographs of the bodies that circulated on social media. The families had filed a complaint with police, accusing soldiers of killing their relatives in a staged gunfight.
The families said the three men went to Shopian to work as labourers and were last heard from on July 17.
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Pakistan on Sunday strongly condemned the barbaric custodial killing of three Kashmiri civilians in Baffliaz, Poonch district of the Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK).
One day prior, the Associated Press had disclosed an account detailing the alleged torture to death of three Kashmiris while under the custody of the Indian army.
As per the report, the army had apprehended "at least eight civilians" for questioning following an attack on two army vehicles in Poonch.
The report indicated that locals accused army personnel of causing the demise of the three individuals through torture within a nearby military camp.
Subsequently, the bodies were delivered to the local police, who then informed the families. Residents asserted that the bodies exhibited signs of severe torture.
The Foreign Office Spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch, in a statement today, said the slain civilians were tortured to death at a camp of the Indian occupation army.
“A purported video clip of the Indian personnel stripping three men and sprinkling chilli powder on them is viral on social media,” she added.
She said the incident, once again, exposes India’s relentless state of terrorism in IIOJK. “The perpetrators of these custodial killings must be held accountable. India’s brutal occupation is the root cause of all major issues in IIOJK,” the statement added.
The spokesperson further said that the Kashmiri people must realise their inalienable right to self-determination, as enshrined in the relevant UN Security Council resolutions, she added.
Source: Express Tribune
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One day prior, the Associated Press had disclosed an account detailing the alleged torture to death of three Kashmiris while under the custody of the Indian army.
As per the report, the army had apprehended "at least eight civilians" for questioning following an attack on two army vehicles in Poonch.
The report indicated that locals accused army personnel of causing the demise of the three individuals through torture within a nearby military camp.
Subsequently, the bodies were delivered to the local police, who then informed the families. Residents asserted that the bodies exhibited signs of severe torture.
The Foreign Office Spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch, in a statement today, said the slain civilians were tortured to death at a camp of the Indian occupation army.
“A purported video clip of the Indian personnel stripping three men and sprinkling chilli powder on them is viral on social media,” she added.
She said the incident, once again, exposes India’s relentless state of terrorism in IIOJK. “The perpetrators of these custodial killings must be held accountable. India’s brutal occupation is the root cause of all major issues in IIOJK,” the statement added.
The spokesperson further said that the Kashmiri people must realise their inalienable right to self-determination, as enshrined in the relevant UN Security Council resolutions, she added.
Source: Express Tribune
Pakistan slams ‘barbaric’ killing of three Kashmiri citizens | The Express Tribune
Incident, once again, exposes India’s relentless state of terrorism in IIOJK, says FO spokesperon
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The Indian army has launched an investigation into the deaths of three civilians allegedly in military custody in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK), and moved senior officers from the disputed area, a military official said on Monday.
Residents in the occupied area said the civilians had been detained for questioning after separatists ambushed Indian army vehicles on Thursday, killing four soldiers.
The inquiry was ordered as a result of the civilians' deaths, said the official, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorised to speak to the media.
The ambush in the woods of Poonch district of IIOJK was the fifth major attack on Indian troops in recent months in the occupied region, with 24 security force personnel killed.
Indian army chief Manoj Pande visited Poonch on Monday to review the operational preparedness of the troops, said defence spokesperson Suneel Bartwal. "I have no knowledge about the inquiry ordered into deaths of civilians in Poonch," he said.
Pakistan "strongly condemns" the deaths of the civilians, its foreign ministry said in a statement, calling for the people responsible to be held to account.
Read also: Three Indian soldiers killed in IIOJK gunfight
Mohammad Sidiq, councillor of Topa Pir village, said nine people, including his 26-year-old shepherd nephew, were picked up by Indian troops on Friday for questioning.
"One of them was let off and eight others were tortured, and three, including my nephew Shoukat Ahmad, were killed," he said.
A grisly video of men purportedly being tortured by the army has gone viral on social media, causing widespread outrage in the occupied region. Reuters could not independently confirm the authenticity of the video.
Sidiq said the people tortured in the video were the men found dead near the ambush site.
"Where is the law and where is the justice? Is this the reward we get for supporting Indian troops here on the borders? I even get death threats for raising my voice against these three deaths," Sidiq said.
Source: Express Tribune
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Residents in the occupied area said the civilians had been detained for questioning after separatists ambushed Indian army vehicles on Thursday, killing four soldiers.
The inquiry was ordered as a result of the civilians' deaths, said the official, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorised to speak to the media.
The ambush in the woods of Poonch district of IIOJK was the fifth major attack on Indian troops in recent months in the occupied region, with 24 security force personnel killed.
Indian army chief Manoj Pande visited Poonch on Monday to review the operational preparedness of the troops, said defence spokesperson Suneel Bartwal. "I have no knowledge about the inquiry ordered into deaths of civilians in Poonch," he said.
Pakistan "strongly condemns" the deaths of the civilians, its foreign ministry said in a statement, calling for the people responsible to be held to account.
Read also: Three Indian soldiers killed in IIOJK gunfight
Mohammad Sidiq, councillor of Topa Pir village, said nine people, including his 26-year-old shepherd nephew, were picked up by Indian troops on Friday for questioning.
"One of them was let off and eight others were tortured, and three, including my nephew Shoukat Ahmad, were killed," he said.
A grisly video of men purportedly being tortured by the army has gone viral on social media, causing widespread outrage in the occupied region. Reuters could not independently confirm the authenticity of the video.
Sidiq said the people tortured in the video were the men found dead near the ambush site.
"Where is the law and where is the justice? Is this the reward we get for supporting Indian troops here on the borders? I even get death threats for raising my voice against these three deaths," Sidiq said.
Source: Express Tribune
Indian army probes alleged civilian deaths in custody | The Express Tribune
Residents say the civilians were detained for questioning after Indian army vehicles were ambushed on Thursday
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This has been happening for a long time. The Indian army has torture cells, and the UN is silent about it.
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"Infringement, Unacceptable": India Protests UK Envoy's Visit To PoK
Lodging a strong protest against a visit by the British High Commissioner in Islamabad to Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, the Ministry of External Affairs has said that the infringement on India's territorial integrity is unacceptable, and reiterated that Jammu and Kashmir has been and shall always remain an integral part of the country.
Reacting to the visit by British High Commissioner Jane Marriott, the ministry said on Saturday, "India has taken a serious note of the highly objectionable visit of the British High Commissioner in Islamabad, along with a UK Foreign Office official, to Pakistan occupied Kashmir on 10 January 2024. Such infringement of India's sovereignty and territorial integrity is unacceptable."
"Foreign Secretary has lodged a strong protest with the British High Commissioner in India on this infringement. The Union Territories of Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh are, have been and shall always remain an integral part of India," the ministry said.
Sharing some photos from her visit to Mirpur in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, Ms Marriott had posted on X, "Salaam from Mirpur, the heart of the UK and Pakistan's people-to-people ties! 70% of British Pakistani roots are from Mirpur, making our work together crucial for diaspora interests. Thank you for your hospitality!"
The handle of the British High Commission in Pakistan also shared a video of Ms Marriott's visit to the area, which showed her going to a bakery and interacting with district officials.
In October last year, India had raised its concerns with the US over the visit of American Ambassador to Islamabad, Donald Blome, to Gilgit-Baltistan in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. The Ministry of External Affairs had called on the world community to respect the country's sovereignty and territorial integrity. The US ambassador had visited Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir in 2022 as well.
Speaking in Parliament in December, Union Home Minister Amit Shah said 24 seats have been reserved in the Jammu and Kashmir Assembly for Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, emphasising that "PoK is ours".
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Lodging a strong protest against a visit by the British High Commissioner in Islamabad to Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, the Ministry of External Affairs has said that the infringement on India's territorial integrity is unacceptable, and reiterated that Jammu and Kashmir has been and shall always remain an integral part of the country.
Reacting to the visit by British High Commissioner Jane Marriott, the ministry said on Saturday, "India has taken a serious note of the highly objectionable visit of the British High Commissioner in Islamabad, along with a UK Foreign Office official, to Pakistan occupied Kashmir on 10 January 2024. Such infringement of India's sovereignty and territorial integrity is unacceptable."
"Foreign Secretary has lodged a strong protest with the British High Commissioner in India on this infringement. The Union Territories of Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh are, have been and shall always remain an integral part of India," the ministry said.
Sharing some photos from her visit to Mirpur in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, Ms Marriott had posted on X, "Salaam from Mirpur, the heart of the UK and Pakistan's people-to-people ties! 70% of British Pakistani roots are from Mirpur, making our work together crucial for diaspora interests. Thank you for your hospitality!"
The handle of the British High Commission in Pakistan also shared a video of Ms Marriott's visit to the area, which showed her going to a bakery and interacting with district officials.
In October last year, India had raised its concerns with the US over the visit of American Ambassador to Islamabad, Donald Blome, to Gilgit-Baltistan in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. The Ministry of External Affairs had called on the world community to respect the country's sovereignty and territorial integrity. The US ambassador had visited Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir in 2022 as well.
Speaking in Parliament in December, Union Home Minister Amit Shah said 24 seats have been reserved in the Jammu and Kashmir Assembly for Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, emphasising that "PoK is ours".
Source: NDTV
"Infringement, Unacceptable": India Protests UK Envoy's Visit To PoK
Lodging a strong protest against the visit by the British High Commissioner in Islamabad to Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, the Ministry of External Affairs has said that the infringement on India's territorial integrity is unacceptable.
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"Infringement, Unacceptable": India Protests UK Envoy's Visit To PoK
Lodging a strong protest against a visit by the British High Commissioner in Islamabad to Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, the Ministry of External Affairs has said that the infringement on India's territorial integrity is unacceptable, and reiterated that Jammu and Kashmir has been and shall always remain an integral part of the country.
Reacting to the visit by British High Commissioner Jane Marriott, the ministry said on Saturday, "India has taken a serious note of the highly objectionable visit of the British High Commissioner in Islamabad, along with a UK Foreign Office official, to Pakistan occupied Kashmir on 10 January 2024. Such infringement of India's sovereignty and territorial integrity is unacceptable."
"Foreign Secretary has lodged a strong protest with the British High Commissioner in India on this infringement. The Union Territories of Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh are, have been and shall always remain an integral part of India," the ministry said.
Sharing some photos from her visit to Mirpur in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, Ms Marriott had posted on X, "Salaam from Mirpur, the heart of the UK and Pakistan's people-to-people ties! 70% of British Pakistani roots are from Mirpur, making our work together crucial for diaspora interests. Thank you for your hospitality!"
The handle of the British High Commission in Pakistan also shared a video of Ms Marriott's visit to the area, which showed her going to a bakery and interacting with district officials.
In October last year, India had raised its concerns with the US over the visit of American Ambassador to Islamabad, Donald Blome, to Gilgit-Baltistan in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. The Ministry of External Affairs had called on the world community to respect the country's sovereignty and territorial integrity. The US ambassador had visited Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir in 2022 as well.
Speaking in Parliament in December, Union Home Minister Amit Shah said 24 seats have been reserved in the Jammu and Kashmir Assembly for Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, emphasising that "PoK is ours".
Source: NDTV
"Infringement, Unacceptable": India Protests UK Envoy's Visit To PoK
Lodging a strong protest against the visit by the British High Commissioner in Islamabad to Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, the Ministry of External Affairs has said that the infringement on India's territorial integrity is unacceptable.
Why is India protesting? Isn't PoK under Pakistan's control?
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Kashmir Day: Military pays homage to valiant struggle of Kashmiris
In a display of solidarity, Pakistan's Armed Forces, alongside the Chairmen of Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCsSC), and Services Chiefs, have paid heartfelt homage to the unwavering resolve and courageous struggle of the people of Kashmir.They have stood resolute in the face of grave human rights violations and enduring inhumane lockdowns imposed by Indian occupation forces in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK), the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said in statement on Monday to mark the Kashmir Day.
“The issue has to be resolved as per the aspirations of the people of Kashmir and in accordance with UN Resolutions providing for their right to self-determination.” It continued.
Despite decades of oppression and atrocities inflicted by Indian occupation forces, the spirit of the Kashmiri people remains unbroken. Their legitimate pursuit for freedom persists, serving as a testament to their resilience and unwavering commitment to justice.
The armed forces expressed solidarity with the people of Kashmir, acknowledging the immense sacrifices they endure in their quest for liberation.
The message highlighted the inevitability of the Kashmiri struggle prevailing. “The night is indeed the darkest before dawn - the heroic struggle for Azadi is destined to succeed, InshAllah.” it proclaimed
This tribute underscores Pakistan's steadfast support for the Kashmiri cause and its unwavering commitment to advocating for the rights and aspirations of the Kashmiri people on international platforms.
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Kashmir dispute’s settlement to remain integral part foreign policy: President Alvi
President Dr. Arif Alvi asked India to repeal draconian laws in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK) and reverse its unilateral and illegal actions of 5 August 2019.In his message on the eve of Kashmir Solidarity Day, President Alvi asked India to allow UN-mandated investigations into cases of human rights violations and implement the relevant UN Security Council resolutions on Jammu and Kashmir.
“The Indian Supreme Court’s judgment of 11 December 2023 is yet another manifestation of India’s desire to undermine the right to self-determination of the Kashmiri people,” President Alvi added.
He said that the people of IIOJK have been struggling to realize their right to self-determination for the last 76 years. He said that the government and people of Pakistan renew their unflinching support for the legitimate struggle of Kashmiris.
He said that the right to self-determination is a cardinal principle of international law. “The UN General Assembly annually adopts a resolution expressing unequivocal support for the realization of the right to self-determination for people under foreign occupation. Regrettably, the Kashmiri people have not been able to exercise this inalienable right,” he added.
The president said that IIOJK is one of the most militarized zones in the world. Kashmiris are living in an environment of fear and intimidation. The Indian occupation forces are engaged in indiscriminate use of force against civilians.
He said that political activists and human rights defenders face arbitrary detention and confiscation of properties. The political parties, representing the genuine aspirations of the Kashmiri people, are being banned. These oppressive measures are aimed at crushing dissent in IIOJK.
“I wish to reiterate that seeking a just resolution of the Jammu and Kashmir dispute will remain a key pillar of our foreign policy. Pakistan will continue to lend unstinted moral, diplomatic and political support to the Kashmiri people till the realization of their right to self-determination, as enshrined in the relevant UN Security Council resolutions,” President Alvi.
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The brimming global anti-colonial movement saw Monday solidarity protests and call for freedom for Kashmir from India widespread across Europe and the UK.
Following lead by the Tehreek-e-Kashmir UK and Europe, marches, car rallies, protests and conferences were held in Barcelona, Spain; Oslo, Norway; Brescia, Italy; Birmingham, Glasgow, Scotland, Luton, Nottingham, UK; and various cities of Europe to mark the annual Kashmir Solidarity Day.
The day is annually held since early 1990s, at the initiative of renowned Pakistani leader Qazi Hussain Ahmad, to reiterate and renew support to popular struggle for right to self-determination of Kashmiris.
Lawmakers, human rights activists and lawyers participated in the demonstrations, expressing their solidarity with the oppressed people of Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK).
“This is the right time to get freedom for Kashmir as there is global awakening regarding anti-colonial movements,” said Fahim Kayani, leader of Tehreek-e-Kashmir UK.
In a joint statement, leadership of Tehreek-e-Kashmir chapters across Europe decried silence of international community over Kashmir.
“The silence of the so-called flag bearers of rule of law are complicit in the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Indian forces in occupied Kashmir,” said the statement.
This year, Kashmir Solidarity Day is being commemorated when anti-colonial movements have taken a global shape with demonstrations taking place from north to south and east to west across globe.
The statement called on the UN and human rights organizations to keep pressing for implementation of UN resolutions and international law on Kashmir.
“India has enforced a graveyard silence on Kashmir by abducting and illegally imprisoning tens of hundreds of Kashmiris in the occupied territory as well as in jails across India,” said the Kashmiri diaspora leadership, warning that New Delhi was fast tracking its demographic terrorism in the UN designated disputed territory.
“If the UN does not wake up and the proponents of the so-called rule of law continue to give India an easy pass, the situation in Kashmir can trigger a war that will have consequences beyond the region,” the statement added.
Muhammad Ghalib President Tehreek-e-Kashmir Europe, Raja Shafiq Tabasam, president TeK Spain; Chaudhry Babar Warriach, president TeK Italy; Shah Hussain Kazmi, president TeK Norway; Chaudhry Saqib Tahir, president Pak Federation Spain; Mehmood Sharif Senior Vice President TeK Europe; Mian Tayyib Sec Gen TeK Europe; Rafaqat Ali, Sec Gen TeK Norway; Patron in Chief TeK UK, Syed Tufail Hussain Shah; Shaukat Sultan, Sec Gen TeK Scotland; Chaudhry Sharif Senior, vice President TeK UK; Chaudhry Ikram ul Haq, president TeK Birmingham
Source: The Express Tribune
Following lead by the Tehreek-e-Kashmir UK and Europe, marches, car rallies, protests and conferences were held in Barcelona, Spain; Oslo, Norway; Brescia, Italy; Birmingham, Glasgow, Scotland, Luton, Nottingham, UK; and various cities of Europe to mark the annual Kashmir Solidarity Day.
The day is annually held since early 1990s, at the initiative of renowned Pakistani leader Qazi Hussain Ahmad, to reiterate and renew support to popular struggle for right to self-determination of Kashmiris.
Lawmakers, human rights activists and lawyers participated in the demonstrations, expressing their solidarity with the oppressed people of Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK).
“This is the right time to get freedom for Kashmir as there is global awakening regarding anti-colonial movements,” said Fahim Kayani, leader of Tehreek-e-Kashmir UK.
In a joint statement, leadership of Tehreek-e-Kashmir chapters across Europe decried silence of international community over Kashmir.
“The silence of the so-called flag bearers of rule of law are complicit in the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Indian forces in occupied Kashmir,” said the statement.
This year, Kashmir Solidarity Day is being commemorated when anti-colonial movements have taken a global shape with demonstrations taking place from north to south and east to west across globe.
The statement called on the UN and human rights organizations to keep pressing for implementation of UN resolutions and international law on Kashmir.
“India has enforced a graveyard silence on Kashmir by abducting and illegally imprisoning tens of hundreds of Kashmiris in the occupied territory as well as in jails across India,” said the Kashmiri diaspora leadership, warning that New Delhi was fast tracking its demographic terrorism in the UN designated disputed territory.
“If the UN does not wake up and the proponents of the so-called rule of law continue to give India an easy pass, the situation in Kashmir can trigger a war that will have consequences beyond the region,” the statement added.
Muhammad Ghalib President Tehreek-e-Kashmir Europe, Raja Shafiq Tabasam, president TeK Spain; Chaudhry Babar Warriach, president TeK Italy; Shah Hussain Kazmi, president TeK Norway; Chaudhry Saqib Tahir, president Pak Federation Spain; Mehmood Sharif Senior Vice President TeK Europe; Mian Tayyib Sec Gen TeK Europe; Rafaqat Ali, Sec Gen TeK Norway; Patron in Chief TeK UK, Syed Tufail Hussain Shah; Shaukat Sultan, Sec Gen TeK Scotland; Chaudhry Sharif Senior, vice President TeK UK; Chaudhry Ikram ul Haq, president TeK Birmingham
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We just chant slogans that Kashmir will be part of Pakistan and celebrate solidarity days. In reality, we have lost Kashmir, and it seems like it will remain this way for many more years.
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Prime Minister of Pakistan Anwarul Haq Kakar, Prime Minister of Azad Jammu and Kashmir Chaudhry Anwaarul Haq, and Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Syed Asim Munir visited Muzaffarabad to observe Kashmir Solidarity Day on Monday, a solemn occasion to express unwavering support for the people of Kashmir.
The dignitaries commenced their visit by laying a floral wreath at the Martyrs' Monument at Jammu and Kashmir Monument Muzaffarabad, paying tribute to the supreme sacrifices of the martyrs.
The civil-military leadership of the country emphasised the remarkable fortitude, resilience, and steadfast faith displayed by the Kashmiri people in the face of relentless brutality from Indian occupation forces in the Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK).
In a statement released by the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), the military's media wing, the leaders voiced concerns over the brewing humanitarian and security crises in IIOJK, which pose a serious threat to regional peace and stability.
Pakistan pledged its unwavering support to the Kashmiris in their just struggle for the inalienable right to self-determination, in accordance with the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council.
The leaders accused India of attempting to alter the demography of IIOJK through illegal administrative measures and draconian laws, asserting that such actions cannot suppress the Kashmiri people's determination to achieve their legitimate objectives.
COAS General Munir, after the visit to the monument, proceeded to inspect the troops deployed on the front lines along the Line of Control (LOC) in Sarian Sector. He praised the operational readiness, high morale, and effective response of the troops to Indian ceasefire violations (CFVs).
Addressing the troops, Gen Munir reiterated that any aggression or violation of Pakistan's territorial sovereignty would be met with full national resolve and military might. He emphasised that the Pakistan Army is well-prepared to respond effectively to the entire threat spectrum.
General Munir also condemned Indian state-sponsored terrorism in Pakistan, highlighting its expansion to heinous targeting of Pakistani citizens on Pakistani soil. He expressed concerns about India's blatant disregard for international law and norms, noting that several countries around the world are openly calling out India, exposing its sham credentials.
The COAS concluded by stating that Pakistan will continue to expose all such attempts and ensure the security of its citizens.
His visit was marked by a warm reception from Commander Rawalpindi Corps upon arrival. The events in Muzaffarabad underlined Pakistan's steadfast commitment to the Kashmir cause and its resolve to address regional challenges with strength and diplomacy.
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The dignitaries commenced their visit by laying a floral wreath at the Martyrs' Monument at Jammu and Kashmir Monument Muzaffarabad, paying tribute to the supreme sacrifices of the martyrs.
The civil-military leadership of the country emphasised the remarkable fortitude, resilience, and steadfast faith displayed by the Kashmiri people in the face of relentless brutality from Indian occupation forces in the Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK).
In a statement released by the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), the military's media wing, the leaders voiced concerns over the brewing humanitarian and security crises in IIOJK, which pose a serious threat to regional peace and stability.
Pakistan pledged its unwavering support to the Kashmiris in their just struggle for the inalienable right to self-determination, in accordance with the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council.
The leaders accused India of attempting to alter the demography of IIOJK through illegal administrative measures and draconian laws, asserting that such actions cannot suppress the Kashmiri people's determination to achieve their legitimate objectives.
COAS General Munir, after the visit to the monument, proceeded to inspect the troops deployed on the front lines along the Line of Control (LOC) in Sarian Sector. He praised the operational readiness, high morale, and effective response of the troops to Indian ceasefire violations (CFVs).
Addressing the troops, Gen Munir reiterated that any aggression or violation of Pakistan's territorial sovereignty would be met with full national resolve and military might. He emphasised that the Pakistan Army is well-prepared to respond effectively to the entire threat spectrum.
General Munir also condemned Indian state-sponsored terrorism in Pakistan, highlighting its expansion to heinous targeting of Pakistani citizens on Pakistani soil. He expressed concerns about India's blatant disregard for international law and norms, noting that several countries around the world are openly calling out India, exposing its sham credentials.
The COAS concluded by stating that Pakistan will continue to expose all such attempts and ensure the security of its citizens.
His visit was marked by a warm reception from Commander Rawalpindi Corps upon arrival. The events in Muzaffarabad underlined Pakistan's steadfast commitment to the Kashmir cause and its resolve to address regional challenges with strength and diplomacy.
Source: Express Tribune
PM, COAS visit AJK, strongly condemn Indian actions in IIOJK | The Express Tribune
Pakistan pledged its unwavering support to Kashmiris in their just struggle for inalienable right to self-determination
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PM Modi launches Rs 32,000-crore worth development projects in Jammu & Kashmir
PM Modi also flagged off the first electric train in the Valley and the train service between Sangaldan and Baramulla stations.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi with Union Minister Jitendra Singh and J&K Lt Governor Manoj Sinha during the inauguration & foundation stone laying ceremony of multiple developmental projects, in Jammu, on Tuesday.
Jammu: Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Tuesday launched multiple development projects, including for education, railway, aviation and road sectors, in Jammu and Kashmir worth over Rs 32,000 crore.
From Jammu, the prime minister also launched or laid foundation stone of projects worth Rs 13,500 crore across the country. These projects include Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs), Indian Institutes of Management (IIMs) and central universities.
Modi distributed appointment letters to about 1,500 newly recruited government employees of Jammu and Kashmir and also interacted with the beneficiaries of various schemes as part of the 'Viksit Bharat, Viksit Jammu' programme.
Among the railway projects that Modi inaugurated are the railway line between Banihal-Khari-Sumber-Sangaldan (48 km) and the newly electrified Baramulla-Srinagar-Banihal-Sangaldan section (185.66 km).
He flagged off the first electric train in the Valley and the train service between Sangaldan and Baramulla stations. The commissioning of the Banihal-Khari-Sumber-Sangaldan section is significant as it features the usage of ballast less track (BLT) all along the route providing a better ride experience to passengers. India's longest transportation tunnel T-50 (12.77 km) lies in the portion between Khari and Sumber.
The railway projects are expected to improve connectivity, ensure environmental sustainability and boost the overall economic development of the region. The prime minister also inaugurated and laid the foundation stone of several projects worth about Rs 13,500 crore for other parts of the country.
The projects include permanent campuses for IIT Bhilai, IIT Tirupati, IIT Jammu, IIITDM Kancheepuram, Indian Institute of Skills (IIS), a pioneer skills training institute on advanced technologies located at Kanpur, and campuses of Central Sanskrit
University at Devprayag (Uttarakhand) and Agartala (Tripura).
He also inaugurated three new IIMs in the country -- IIM Jammu, IIM Bodh Gaya and IIM Visakhapatnam -- besides 20 new buildings for Kendriya Vidyalayas (KVs) and 13 for new Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalayas (JNVs) buildings across the country.
As part of his government's efforts to provide comprehensive, quality and holistic tertiary-care health services to the people of Jammu and Kashmir, the prime minister also inaugurated the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS), Vijaypur
(Samba), Jammu, officials said. The institute, whose foundation stone was laid by him in February 2019, has been established under the central government's 'Pradhan Mantri Swasthya Suraksha Yojana'.
Set up at a cost of over Rs 1,660 crore and in an area spanning over 227 acres, the hospital is equipped with 720 beds, a medical college with 125 seats, a nursing college with 60 seats, an AYUSH block with 30 beds, residential accommodation for faculty and staff, hostel accommodation for UG and PG students and a shopping complex among other facilities.
Among other projects, Modi laid the foundation stone for a new terminal building at the Jammu airport. Spread over 40,000 sqm, the new terminal building will be equipped with modern facilities catering to about 2,000 passengers during peak hours, and will be environment friendly.
Modi laid the foundation stone of important road projects including two stretches (44.22 km) of the Delhi-Amritsar-Katra expressway connecting Jammu to Katra and phase-two for the four-laning of the Srinagar Ring road.
He laid the foundation stone for a project to develop the CUF (Common User Facility) petroleum depot at Jammu as well.
https://www.deccanherald.com/india/...development-projects-in-jammu-kashmir-2901867
PM Modi also flagged off the first electric train in the Valley and the train service between Sangaldan and Baramulla stations.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi with Union Minister Jitendra Singh and J&K Lt Governor Manoj Sinha during the inauguration & foundation stone laying ceremony of multiple developmental projects, in Jammu, on Tuesday.
Jammu: Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Tuesday launched multiple development projects, including for education, railway, aviation and road sectors, in Jammu and Kashmir worth over Rs 32,000 crore.
From Jammu, the prime minister also launched or laid foundation stone of projects worth Rs 13,500 crore across the country. These projects include Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs), Indian Institutes of Management (IIMs) and central universities.
Modi distributed appointment letters to about 1,500 newly recruited government employees of Jammu and Kashmir and also interacted with the beneficiaries of various schemes as part of the 'Viksit Bharat, Viksit Jammu' programme.
Among the railway projects that Modi inaugurated are the railway line between Banihal-Khari-Sumber-Sangaldan (48 km) and the newly electrified Baramulla-Srinagar-Banihal-Sangaldan section (185.66 km).
He flagged off the first electric train in the Valley and the train service between Sangaldan and Baramulla stations. The commissioning of the Banihal-Khari-Sumber-Sangaldan section is significant as it features the usage of ballast less track (BLT) all along the route providing a better ride experience to passengers. India's longest transportation tunnel T-50 (12.77 km) lies in the portion between Khari and Sumber.
The railway projects are expected to improve connectivity, ensure environmental sustainability and boost the overall economic development of the region. The prime minister also inaugurated and laid the foundation stone of several projects worth about Rs 13,500 crore for other parts of the country.
The projects include permanent campuses for IIT Bhilai, IIT Tirupati, IIT Jammu, IIITDM Kancheepuram, Indian Institute of Skills (IIS), a pioneer skills training institute on advanced technologies located at Kanpur, and campuses of Central Sanskrit
University at Devprayag (Uttarakhand) and Agartala (Tripura).
He also inaugurated three new IIMs in the country -- IIM Jammu, IIM Bodh Gaya and IIM Visakhapatnam -- besides 20 new buildings for Kendriya Vidyalayas (KVs) and 13 for new Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalayas (JNVs) buildings across the country.
As part of his government's efforts to provide comprehensive, quality and holistic tertiary-care health services to the people of Jammu and Kashmir, the prime minister also inaugurated the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS), Vijaypur
(Samba), Jammu, officials said. The institute, whose foundation stone was laid by him in February 2019, has been established under the central government's 'Pradhan Mantri Swasthya Suraksha Yojana'.
Set up at a cost of over Rs 1,660 crore and in an area spanning over 227 acres, the hospital is equipped with 720 beds, a medical college with 125 seats, a nursing college with 60 seats, an AYUSH block with 30 beds, residential accommodation for faculty and staff, hostel accommodation for UG and PG students and a shopping complex among other facilities.
Among other projects, Modi laid the foundation stone for a new terminal building at the Jammu airport. Spread over 40,000 sqm, the new terminal building will be equipped with modern facilities catering to about 2,000 passengers during peak hours, and will be environment friendly.
Modi laid the foundation stone of important road projects including two stretches (44.22 km) of the Delhi-Amritsar-Katra expressway connecting Jammu to Katra and phase-two for the four-laning of the Srinagar Ring road.
He laid the foundation stone for a project to develop the CUF (Common User Facility) petroleum depot at Jammu as well.
https://www.deccanherald.com/india/...development-projects-in-jammu-kashmir-2901867
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In December 2013, during his Lalkar Rally, PM Narendra Modi advocated for the establishment of IIT and IIM in Jammu, emphasizing the potential for local youth to excel globally through education.
Today, the PM is set to inaugurate the permanent campuses of IIM and AIIMS in Vijaypur (Samba), Jammu.
Today, the PM is set to inaugurate the permanent campuses of IIM and AIIMS in Vijaypur (Samba), Jammu.
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Pakistan are in danger of losing the Pakistan cause - a crumbling, overleveraged economy with possible Balkanisation on the horizon
But difficult to focus on Kashmir when you are getting wrecked internally
But difficult to focus on Kashmir when you are getting wrecked internally
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Jammu & Kashmir budget is $14 billion from interim budget, around 4-5 times more IMF approved for Pakistan.
Indian government is doing tremendous work in Jammu & Kashmir post Article 370.
1. First, they focused on law and order.
2. Transformation from Terrorism to Tourism. More than 700% improve in foreign tourism. The region saw an unprecedented success in 2023, welcoming a record-breaking 2.02 crore tourists and over 50 thousand foreign visits.
3. Infra development, Government launched multiple projects.
4. Foreign investments.
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Has India given up on what it terms 'POK'?
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Kashmiris can't be appeased with it. They want total salvation from Indian occupation.
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I made a post on this in another thread. Reporting from the ground so to speak. Make of it what you will. The ground realities are changing rapidly.
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Kashmir can be freed same way India annexed Portugese Goa. That's the only option. But, doing that may result in many human losses on both sides.
So, freeing of Kashmir is unlikely to happen soon. Maybe if China and Pakistan invade India together, it can be achieved.
So, freeing of Kashmir is unlikely to happen soon. Maybe if China and Pakistan invade India together, it can be achieved.
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So with so much good news emanating from IOK, can we assume the half million Indian troops keeping the population at the point of a gun have withdrawn from the valley?
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No noticeable change speaking from memory. There's checkposts every few kilometres. Traveling on the roads is slow but traffic is definitely a lot more. I'm no local but I actually saw what I thought I would never see - traffic jams in Srinagar.
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I dont know how can you call situation in IOK normal despite the fact that your 9 lac strength strong army still there.
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wow this is great news.
If IIT is going to be made there than that means a time will come when the two kashmirs will be compared and our Kashmiris would prefer to live there
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than what should be Kashmiris be appeased with?
This is exactly what Kashmiris want.
The issue on our side is that we dont do development due to the special status, while local Pakistanis have started to own land by doing fraud.
If Indian side of Kashmir starts having access to great quality education than offcourse the population will love it
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First - I did not call it normal. It's been abnormal from a long time and I'm sure it will remain so for a long time. The type of abnormality will change though. I have no scientific basis to state this because there's been no census since 2011 but within 5-10 years, I think the population mix of residents will change dramatically. The percentage of 'Kashmiris' in Kashmir while not a minority will definitely drop significantly in proportion. A lot of outsiders are settling there.
Second - I'm not sure where you get the 9 lac number. There's no official data (I googled) and it's highly unlikely that it's 900K soldiers. That would be 75% of the Indian Military and they've got a bunch of other borders to protect.
That's because until now the kashmiri youth have been fed with all the bs. Once economic opportunities come, wealth and good lifestyle is all a person needs. If i were you, I would be worried about POK because if Indian Kashmir actually develops in the next decade then POK would desperately want to be a part of it.
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Forces deploy 1 million to guard Kashmir Valley
Army, paramilitary likely to remain in strength in Kashmir till UTs created, elections held.
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So was your govt sleeping for the past 75+ years
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Oh you're talking about the buildup in 2019 when the changes were made. Maybe it's continued and maybe not but it's unlikely. The stress on the military would be unbelievable. They'd cancelled every leave and pulled in every spare soldier from everywhere for that buildup.Forces deploy 1 million to guard Kashmir Valley
Army, paramilitary likely to remain in strength in Kashmir till UTs created, elections held.
So was your govt sleeping for the past 75+ years
You forget India's been a poor country for most of the last 75 years and is still underdeveloped. Dramatically more resources...especially for capital investments have been available in the last few years and Kashmir is getting it's fair share...more than it's fair share if I'm being honest since the government is betting that rapid investment and development will further dull the separatist movement.
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If they love it, then why would you need such large numbers of troops there? Even the poster you are quoting is saying that the method to bring such change to the valley will be to replace the existing population with a different one. I am guessing the makeup will be mostly hindu to replace the Muslim population which currently populates it.
Perhaps you can say that but in the first 50 years, there wasn't much to chose between India and Pakistan for them. For far too long, Kashmir was seen from 'guarding it from Pakistan' perspective, now with that fear gone completely in the last few years, government is looking at it independently and guess who has it partnered with for a lot of infra projects investment in Kashmir - government of Dubai.Forces deploy 1 million to guard Kashmir Valley
Army, paramilitary likely to remain in strength in Kashmir till UTs created, elections held.
So was your govt sleeping for the past 75+ years
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Whether there is development or not, the army will stay there.
So why not take the development with the army while having no development and plenty of army.
Like how we have in Baluchistan. Army and army funding politicians with 0 development.
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I see you are ignoring the part about replacing the current population with settlers from outside. Where do you think the current population will go to make room for the settlers?
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does it matter now? Once the special status was removed this was going to happen.
Also, in Pakistan we are doing something similar by buying land and conducting business, when in law local pakistanis are not allowed to do it.
Thing is, both sides are involved in practises but in different ways.
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I don't know which part of Pakistan you are referring to but this thread is about Kashmir. Maybe start a new thread about the local areas you are talking about. On this particular topic you have expressed your support and admiration for ethnic cleansing by the hindutva govt of India of Muslim population of IOK. So that is fine, we know where you stand on it.
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you can keep deflecting and pretend to be ignorant.
This thread is about Kashmir, and i clearly implied about Pakistan side Kashmir.
Whats funny is how you assumed i support ethnic cleansing.
You will keep on worrying about what happens in India Kashmir while ignore the same happening in Pakistan kashmir
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This I agree with.
During the above invasion Pakistan should take over East Pakistan as well and do what they did to the East Pakistanis before the liberation...
It can be achieved.
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Forget Pakistan losing Indian Kashmir, imo in 10 years Indian Kashmir's economy would be worth way more than the entire Pakistan's economy....
Pakistan might be in danger of POK wanting to join India....
Pakistan might be in danger of POK wanting to join India....
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I am okay with Bangladesh and Pakistan merging again as long as country remains a Muslim state.
But, what I really prefer is something like an Ottoman Empire and both Pakistan and Bangladesh joining that.
Anyway, China can definitely liberate Kashmir. India is no match to China militarily.
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Why do Indians complain about Mughals then?
Mughals also made Indian subcontinent prosperous.
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The world with unparalleled levels of delusion.
This delusional dream will never be realized. You are free to believe what you want.
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People love talking about Pakistan wanting whole Kashmir, but with that comes a big population of Hindus. What will Pakistan do with that Hindu population? I know for a fact that knowing my country where i live, these people will never give rights to the Hindu population if by any chance we get a large population of them by getting Jammu. Same issue with Budhist living in Ladakh...
These comments are easily said, we associate Kashmir with Muslims, but ignore the other two religious groups.
The only solution is if Pakistan can bargain for Kargil and Kashmir valley, while the rest of the areas retain to both respective countries.
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Good luck convincing your countrymen!
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Mughals didn't do anything much except build a few Mahals and eat their Biriyanis.
The only invaders that made any meaningful contribution are the British, even though it was for their selfish needs, they built the rail network, bridges and roads which the Indians still use for meaningful purposes today
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Looks like you are highly ignorant about Mughal contributions. Please check the opening post of this thread to learn about it: https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...-in-indian-subcontinent.312941/#post-12045538.
If you think Indian government is enriching Kashmir with developments, Mughals did the same.
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India had a higher gdp share of the world's economy before the mughals, it was around 30% of the worlds gdp share before the mughals came
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You responded positively to an Indian poster specifically spelling out that development in IOK is linked to gradually replacing the inhabitants with settlers who we both know will be majority religion and specifically non-Muslim. At the moment the current Muslim majority lives under the gun with hundreds of thousands of troops locking them down from freedom of movement.
This is what you approve, and that's fine, you are entitled to your opinion. Why do you need to resort to whataboutism to justify it? You can just say you like it and wish you were part of it if that is how you feel. I don't understand why people on here are so evasive.
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You're probably referring to me as the Indian poster.
I actually don't think the change in the population make-up is some kind of evil master plan (though it might be. I have no evidence to the contrary).
What seems to be happening from anecdotal evidence is that a lot of Kashmiri youngsters are leaving or being forced by their parents to leave the valley to avoid getting involved in the 'troubles.' Some who can, go abroad especially to the Gulf. Those who can't, well...sometimes it seems to me that there are more Kashmiris in Mumbai than in Srinagar. Every small shop on Mohammed Ali road - mobile repair, dry fruits etc. seems to be run by a Kashmiri. I've seen a large population in Gurgaon as well - a lot of them working in BPOs.
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Of course, that creates a vaccuum - especially with a booming tourist trade. Outsiders are coming in to fill the jobs and slowly settling there.
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How is it whataboutism?
So wait, we should not see Kashmir as a whole, infact we should also ignore ignore Jamu and Ladekh, and just talk about Kashmir valley?
You are being defensive because for you its ok what ever Pakistan side does with Kashmir, but hell will broke out if India does something on the Kashmir in there side.
Also its not a majority as you say it is. Each region of the disputed area has a seperate religious majority. Kashmir Valley Muslims, Ladekh i would guess is Budhist and Jamu is Hindu
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We are a minnow country
Hamari koi auqaat nahi. The world works on might is right, not on principal stand and Pakistan Army knows this better than anyone
Hamari koi auqaat nahi. The world works on might is right, not on principal stand and Pakistan Army knows this better than anyone
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I agree. But will the Ottoman empire extend to Canada where you live or will you move to the new empire in case it doesn't extend there.
But at the very minimum, I think it's a great idea for Pakistan and Bangladesh to unite.
West Pakistan can really use the thriving Bangladesh economy to pay off their IMF debt.
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Pakistan never had any claim on Kashmir but yes, it was officially losing during the tenure of Imran Khan as he humiliated Pakistan on the global stage by begging for support that he did not receive even from other Muslim states.
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Both countries aren't getting either side of Kashmir, it's time to move and look for peace and cooperation. Only if?!
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You are a relatively new poster - or maybe an older poster under a new identity - but assuming you are new, there have been other threads down the years where Indian posters themselves have suggested that the changes in regulations around IOK were designed to open up Kashmir to settlers from outside. The general view has been that it is an attempt to change the demographic to a more Modi-friendly one shall we say.
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Is Pakistan needing to post hundreds of thousands of troops in Azad Kashmir to subjugate the population?
Maybe you think they should. In any case if you want to talk on behalf of Kashmiris, perhaps you can tell us what is the PPP policy on this. Perhaps it matches the BJP vision, in which case there should be some basis for compromise with Bharat. What do you think?
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PHD of History right here.
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I'm new yes. And you're probably right...there is an undercurrent of that in the Modi government decision on abrogation of Article 370 and removal of special status. There was probably some hope that the commingling of folks from the rest of India after the changes would eventually render the Kashmir question moot.
I'm very much a realpolitik guy...not an idealist. And while I don't agree with the way the changes were implemented without public consensus and possibly some kind of referendum, I agree it was probably for the best. There has to be an end to the cycle of endless violence. Giving them a choice of independence is just not practically possible for India. We're just not that secure enough as a Nation that we can offer it like the UK did to Scotland. If that's not possible, development combined with tighter integration is the best future for the Kashmiris.
Maybe I was just reporting that whether deliberately intended or not, it seems to be working slowly and steadily. Tourist arrivals are back to near historic peaks, big investments are ongoing, change is in the air. It's a pity the State is virtually emptied out of young men and seems to be losing it's unique character to an extent but it's better than the alternative.
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Well at least you are honest. But co-mingling should work both ways, if you can have it in Kashmir, there should be no barriers to Muslims buying prestige homes in Mumbai. A few Indian celebriities have complained about the unwritten rules which prevent them doing so in some areas.
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Yep you're right. There's a strong need for equal opportunity legislation in India. All the discourse currently is around reservation in government jobs & educational institutes but it does need to move on from that to equal opportunity (not reservation) in areas like private sector jobs & housing.
The Muslim community is probably not in the strongest position to raise the topic when the party in power is one that doesn't look for their support at all to win (though they can bring it up at a State level in several States). The issue though can be raised by groups like Scheduled & Other Backward Caste communities which are currently very powerful politically. There are model laws in countries in the West where it's possible to punish bigoted landlords & employers that discriminate against someone on the basis of religion, caste, sexual preference or colour. I'm not sure they work perfectly anywhere but they're a definite help especially in the most egregious cases.
As a personal anecdote, my in-laws rent out a couple of apartments and they refuse to rent to anyone who cooks non-vegetarian which obviously means certain communities and castes. This despite knowing that me who's married to their daughter eats meat and enjoys an occasional drink. It's obviously hypocrisy but I'm not going to change their mind by arguing.
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Public sector and State needs to provide equal opportunity, because they control public resources.
Private individuals hold no burden for equal opportunity. Are you saying there must be a law that when a muslim hires a cook, he has to be an equal opportunity employer, and if he hires mostly muslims then he should be prosecuted? Muslims who buy mostly from muslims should be prosecuted because they are not being equal opportunity?
What a joke!
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There's nothing a dravidian loves more than defending his Mughal overlords
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There's nothing to defend or offend - recorded history is a fact and the cabbie down under needed to be called out as such.
As for you, it's been 300+ years since the Mughals were relevant. If you're still getting nightmares about Aurangzeb, please consult a therapist.
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They shouldn't explicitly discriminate. Like say advertising for a muslim cook should be illegal, no ?
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Lots of countries have it. I'll put one example here.
US - Equal Employment Opportunity Act covering all firms Private & Public with 15 or more employees. Fair Housing Act which forbids discrimination in most housing-related activities, including buying, selling, renting, or financing, based on race, color, sex, national origin, or religion.
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Which is fine, like I said it works both ways. Either let each community get on with sorting their own stuff out according to their own traditions, or if you want to be secular, apply it across the board without discrimination. You can't stick troops outside every street in Kashmir to enforce compliance with regulations targeted at one group, then wink and turn a blind eye to the majority as they practice their own form of apartheid in other states. At least not if you want to use terms like secular.
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This is a basic concept which many indians don't get, but I will try to explain.
Secularism is a quality of state, not an individual. State controls public resources, therefore state cannot and should not discriminate, and should treat every one equally.
Secularism is simply separation of church and state, not church and individual. Every time I see an indian who says he is secular, I see an idiot. Secularism by definition cannot be applied to individual.
And individual is owner of private property. Therefore he is within his rights to use his property to help his community.
Communal is NOT a bad word. It only means pertaining to community. Ambedkar was communal. He worked for upliftment of his community. Muslims are communal, they work for their community. Christians are communal. Communal is NOT a bad word.
A muslim doing business with muslim is not wrong. In fact people should help their communities. The only exception is when a community is really backward/weak and needs upliftment, and other communities can help them. Even then, the intervention must come from the state. But some muddled indians have problem with revenue of one province being used for a weaker province (say north east) and then they talk about applying equal opportunity on the individual.
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You know what, I actually agree with you, the obsession with the Mughals is tiresome, no idea why Bhakts still spend all their caring about them and it's not possible to change history.
But there were cruel barbarians, there's no need to defend them either, they should be forgotten about and left alone.
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I feel like I've had this exact discussion on whether India is a Hindu nation or a secular one with your or someone like you before so I won't rehash. I'm not even fully clear on the definition of secularism so it's tough to debate. I would just say on the spectrum between a completely religion neutral country (France) and a deeply religious country which fully favors a single state religion (Afghanistan), we're in the middle somewhere with currently strongish forces pulling towards what I consider the wrong side.
I dislike religion but fully recognise it plays a huge part in people's lives at a very deep level. If we can give complete freedom in the personal sphere while limiting differences in the public sphere that'll be mission accomplished.
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You are talking of firms, not individuals. And read the link you shared for housing act, and see its exclusions
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Hmm what’s your view on halal?
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One can't change history, but one mustn't forget it either.
We have had a whole bunch of fake liberals who kept waxing eloquent about the greatness of the Mughal empire and even selectively distorting history for decades simply to appease a certain vote bank. No one called it 'obsession' back then. Now people who are trying to provide a balanced view are being labelled as 'obsessive' and 'in need of counseling'. Nice.
I agree the Mughals are irrelevant now. Once the correct history is published people will stop worrying about them.
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No point being glib when you're not aware of the situation. That's the Federal Act. State Laws can use this as minimum...can tighten rules but can't relax them. Most States have passed laws. Most of the Dem States have tightened them a lot further and removed most of the exclusions. Feel free to research.
By the way, I'm not advocating putting my inlaws in prison. Just saying we need start thinking about laws preventing discrimination and promoting equal opportunity even in the Private Sector. Enforcement at an individual level is hard anyway but if we can prevent the worst cases - companies that don't hire Muslims because they'll take namaz breaks or hotels that don't rent rooms to transgenders because they give them the "ick", we've made substantial progress.
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Of course, we can choose to do business with whoever we want and associate with whoever we want. But the parameters to explicitly ( <- key word here) discriminate cannot be certain protected traits like race, religion etc.. The concept involved here is employment discrimination. Imagine if a massive private company like Infosys says we don't hire mulsim engineers, that would be fine with you ?
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Again, I am talking about individuals, not firms.
If a muslim says he will only hire muslim cooks, I am not only OK, I support that.
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Food for thought in the drive to modernise Kashmir and open to the rest of Indian populace:
Bigotry At Home: How Delhi, Mumbai Keep Muslim Tenants Out
Exclusion, segregation of Muslim tenants are the norm even in India’s most diverse, cosmopolitan cities, reveal findings of a three-year study on discrimination in housing. From owners to brokers, from flat-mates to social media, a web of factors limits Muslims to Muslim-only localitieswww.article-14.com
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Which indian company doesnt hire muslims?
The indian constitution (which is rubbish)gives the individual fundamental right to practice his religion. So why will a jain be forced to have meat eating tenants.
If you are for equality, then you should talk against the state controlling the revenue of temples.
Secularism is code word for hindumisia.
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