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Bt then he is the far far better batsman than any pakistani batsman. He is the world num 1 batsman. Then how can u q against him. If u want to questioning, then q about ur's pak batsman like, misbah,farhat,malik safiq, hafeez etc. Amla is a far far better batsman than any others batsman in the world. How can u called chok. Hahahahahaha the biggest jokes of the year bro. Plz remove the post.
 
I don't have time to post regularly any more for the next few months. :(

Too busy with some stuff.

But I will post from time to time whenever I get the time.
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
I don't have time to post regularly any more for the next few months. :(

Too busy with some stuff.

But I will post from time to time whenever I get the time.
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I'm sure you will get time whenever Amla gets out on single digits or Ajmal is being tonked ;-)
 
lol this guy will continue bashin amla.......but I do hope amla improves his knock out matches record in 2015...he has anyway been part of only 2 knock out matches in icc touneys throughout his career....and he will most likely play 2 more wc's...and prolly 1 test championship....so thr is time for him to rectify it....
 
He's a JAMODI king so no surprise that he has regained his form as soon as the real ODI business (Champions Trophy) got over.
 
On a flat deck with srilankan tundlers he is under performing .... Shows how a amla or a trott is different from the mann the :kohli
 
Haripotter said:
On a flat deck with srilankan tundlers he is under performing .... Shows how a amla or a trott is different from the mann the :kohli
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Lol what? He is injured, not even half fit.

Scored a 77 on his return and got a good one today.

The guy is invincible in bilateral ODIs.
 
btw will you change your stance about Amla if he do something good in WC 2015?
 
As much as I love Hashim, I agree that he doesn't do well under pressure, he'll need to do well in Big games to be remembered as a true great of the game.
 
stats aside,i think Amla is going to run in to a very long rough patch soon .
 
Wattoo said:
ok, then Waqar younas is also chokar? Failed in WCs
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He was certainly not as good as Wasim when it came to handling pressure.

There is a reason why Wasim Akram is considered the greatest ODI bowler ever because of his ability to rise to the big occasions.

The performance he gave in the 92 World Cup final, Waqar wasn't capable of that.
 
sam_ahm said:
As much as I love Hashim, I agree that he doesn't do well under pressure, he'll need to do well in Big games to be remembered as a true great of the game.
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I acknowledge that it is a bit unfortunate and a narrow way of looking at things because regardless of everything, he has a brilliant record in ODIs.

But that is how it is and once the Test Championship takes place, it would take precedence over all other Test matches.
 
Wattoo said:
btw will you change your stance about Amla if he do something good in WC 2015?
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Of course.

There is really no excuse for him not do well in the World Cup. The conditions in Australia and New Zealand suit him as well along with other things. If he fails there again, it would be a clear indication that he struggles to perform on big occasions because he cannot handle the pressure.

He will be 36 in 2019 so I reckon the 2015 World Cup is his last chance.
 
For some reason I had a dream and Hashim Amla was in my team, he had hair and was beardless.

Confused? So was I.
 
How will SA fare if the test championships get underway? Will their hereditary ODI choking get the better of them again? Would be interesting to see how Amla fares in the test championship.
 
IndianWillow said:
How will SA fare if the test championships get underway? Will their hereditary ODI choking get the better of them again? Would be interesting to see how Amla fares in the test championship.
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I don't think so. The South African Test team is very well drilled. They are going to be the number one team for a couple of more years at least.
 
He plays for SA, They will choke all their life. I m waiting for the day they wont choke:kallis
 
James said:
He's a classic example of how significant it can be for a cricketer to be in possession of a personality.


Absolutely no charisma.

Therefore won't be particularly remembered in cricket history, unless you're South African or a Muslim.
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What an arrogant statement. You don't speak for the world buddy.
 
Personally I think Amla is an exciting cricketer to watch....an attacking batsman.

Amla has his fair share of fans around the cricketing world as well....you can always see groups of guys in the crowd wearing the false beards.

Amla is a bit of a character with his bald pate and long beard.
 
Gah don't buy any of this nonsense, he's only played in 2 knockout games... If he fails in 5-6 then you might have a case but for now this isn't even worth a thread.
 
^ 2 is multiple. Hence he failed multiple times. not to mention, his pathetic performances in multinational tournaments.
 
Itachi said:
^ 2 is multiple. Hence he failed multiple times. not to mention, his pathetic performances in multinational tournaments.
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Tendulkar's average in word cup finals is 11, maybe I should make a thread... :13:
 
Hashim Amla - a potential ODI choker?

Kiwi said:
Gah don't buy any of this nonsense, he's only played in 2 knockout games... If he fails in 5-6 then you might have a case but for now this isn't even worth a thread.
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It isn't about knockout games only. About the whole tournaments.

Tendulkar may have flopped in World Cup finals but he is the top scorer in World Cup history.

But performing in the final alone can do it for you too. Dhoni didn't do to well in the 2011 World Cup but his performance in the final made up for everything.
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
It isn't about knockout games only. About the whole tournaments.

Tendulkar may have flopped in World Cup finals but he is the top scorer in World Cup history.

But performing in the final alone can do it for you too. Dhoni didn't do to well in the 2011 World Cup but his performance in the final made up for everything.
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Talk about double standards, you should write a book of whats acceptable and what's not acceptable in performances in the WC :))
 
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Kiwi said:
They'll eventually win one, just letting you know now..
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Yeah waiting. Even when conditions and everything favor them they choke. Its just better to think they will choke in semifinal or something, and they never disappoint:yk
 
The phenomenon is applicable to all South African batsmen, and not just Amla.

In the World Cup 2011 choke though he was least culpable of them all, edged it into Maccas boot and was caught by first slip. Now that's just plain unlucky.
 
Hashim Amla's decline in ODIs

i was looking through some records in cricinfo when i found this gem.

Amla

Match: 17
Innings: 16
Runs: 518
HS: 122
Avg: 32.37
100s: 1
50s: 2

ok. so arguably the best batsman in odi circuit (?????) has an average of 32.37. and out of 16 times, he was out 13 times in < 50. Looks like the golden boy is losing the touch.

On contrast, people who has been asking for umar akmal's head, after playing 11 matches, guess how much his average is????

32.77

a bit irony isn't it?
 
Nah, he's brilliant as far as bilaterals go, but loses the script completely when its an ICC event which suggests that he's not a big match player in ODI cricket.

He was due a lean run after years of top quality performances.

Not the best ODI batsman in the world by any stretch of imagination.

He's one dimensional and incapable of magical knocks.
 
Mamoon_ said:
Nah, he's brilliant as far as bilaterals go, but loses the script completely when its an ICC event which suggests that he's not a big match player in ODI cricket.

He was due a lean run after years of top quality performances.

Not the best ODI batsman in the world by any stretch of imagination.

He's one dimensional and incapable of magical knocks.
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no he is a big match player , he has not performed in one or two ICC events , it doesnt mean that he doesnt performs in ICC events or big matches ............
 
Let's see what happens in SA. Pretty sure he'll be back to piling on the runs as usual. He's a top notch ODI bat but as MG has pointed out the guy does struggle when it comes to ICC tourneys (ie an ave of 57 in bilaterals vs an ave of 36 in tourneys). So even though his ODI numbers are phenomenal that does count against him in my book.
 
Never rated him in ODI cricket. Likely the most boring and monotonous bat going around the circuit right now. Can't step up, can't step down and is a choker to boot like the rest of them.

Tests he's several notches above the competition but he never gets to face his own team's attack on those designer Cape Town pitches so that's something to consider there.
 
Just had a closer look at his numbers and that ave of 36 in ICC tournies actually drops to 30 if you take out his 113 against Netherlands in the last WC. So a significant drop that.
 
Varun said:
Never rated him in ODI cricket. Likely the most boring and monotonous bat going around the circuit right now. Can't step up, can't step down and is a choker to boot like the rest of them.

Tests he's several notches above the competition but he never gets to face his own team's attack on those designer Cape Town pitches so that's something to consider there.
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yes Hashim Amla is waiting to eat indian bowlers in BBQ watch out team india ...........
 
This is the beauty of being in a team that is doing well in general. They can afford to carry players not performing at their optimum and give them a long rope. Unfortunately when the team is losing and half the team is out of form then it is impossible to give anyone any kind of rope. Just ask the Aussies right now.
 
His ODI batting average has come down from a freakish 60 to 53.5 in the last two years.

I predict he will play around 200 ODI's for his country, scoring 8000 runs and end his career with an average of 45-48, which is excellent.

Kohli and Amla are the two batsmen i'm looking forward to see in the 2015WC, both have a very mediocre record in WC's so far.
 
Varun said:
Never rated him in ODI cricket. Likely the most boring and monotonous bat going around the circuit right now. Can't step up, can't step down and is a choker to boot like the rest of them.

Tests he's several notches above the competition but he never gets to face his own team's attack on those designer Cape Town pitches so that's something to consider there.
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Good post.
 
It's hard to rate boring players like Amla from a neutral perspective. Perhaps I would have seen him in a different light had he played for Pakistan or if I would have been a Saffer.

He's one of those rare players who can make a Test triple hundred and a 150 in an ODI look dull and unmemorable. I agree it has a lot do with the fact that's he's one paced and plays the same shots over and over again. Too robotic and emotionless.
 
karu-89 said:
no he is a big match player , he has not performed in one or two ICC events , it doesnt mean that he doesnt performs in ICC events or big matches ............
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He hasn't performed in 2009 CT, 2011 WC, 2012 WT20, 2012 CT.
 
Amla is a class batsmen and every player goes trhough a drop in form at some point.
 
HazTheGreenKnightRises said:
Irfan might just have ended his career :ajmal :sachin
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He has the following scores against Pak this year (first to last):
43, 17, 122, 0, 22, 81 (CT), 10, 46, 3

The only other decent score he has had this year is a 77 against SL and then 6 other failures (sub 25 scores).

If we going to the extent of career endings, I would argue that it is his performance against Pakistan that has kept him alive this year.
 
Not a problem anyhow, bet he'll bully a half-century or two against Trundlia in the months to come.
 
I think he is not as comfortable facing Pakistani bowlers as he is with other attacks. Irfan has troubled him throughout the year. I dont see this year getting any better for him. SA and PAK have played each other 11 times already and are now gonna play another 3 ODI's.
 
Hashim Amla's decline in ODIs

Form is temporary, class is permanent.
 
AB on the other hand has had a very good year. 46 avg this year with an avg of 65 against Pakistan in 11 matches with 2 tons and 3 fifties.. Toys with Pak bowling consistently.
 
KIC said:
He has the following scores against Pak this year (first to last):
43, 17, 122, 0, 22, 81 (CT), 10, 46, 3

The only other decent score he has had this year is a 77 against SL and then 6 other failures (sub 25 scores).

If we going to the extent of career endings, I would argue that it is his performance against Pakistan that has kept him alive this year.
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How many ODIs has he played against other oppositions(leaving out Pakistan) this year? :taufeeq
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
He did trouble Amla a lot ... Kudos to Irfan
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its more of a mind game i think. its like, he is afraid of irfans height and Bounce.

I remember Hashim saying 'Irfan would have been more effective in Johannesburg test', after Irfan wasn't included in the first test in SA earlier this year
 
KIC said:
7, of which 6 were sub 25 scores
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OK.
By the way,don't you think a man who has been scoring bucket loads of runs and scoring a century almost in every ODI series he plays can be allowed one bad year(in fact this wasn't a bad year for him,it was quite decent.)?
Amla is a beast when it comes to ODI bi-laterals. He has the reputation of scoring a ton in almost every ODI series he plays. He is a bit boring on the outside and that is why we forget his performances quickly.
Let us not get carried away. #HoldOnToYourHorses :misbah
 
^That is exactly what I said earlier as well. You have quoted a post that was made in context to another line of discussion.
 
Another failure.

Won't look out of place in Pakistan's batting lineup these days. :misbah
 
Funny thing is that despite his poor form in ODIs, that record is probably still better than most of the Pakistani batsman when you exclude minnows.
 
i now expect Amla to score a century in one of the matches now but tbh he has played Pakistan a lot and our bowlers are superb and when india come he will do well. i am not saying he is only good v bad bowlers but also he has just had a baby child
 
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