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Looks in very good nick. Not good new for us hahaha
 
Final of the tri-series and yet again he's playing a super knock.

Hope he finishes off with another ODI ton!

Legend!
 
Sinking Ship still scoring centuries in both formats what happened to this thread btw? scored 119 today
 
Mamoon said:
Yeah. He was super overrated to begin with.

Mind you, overrated doesn't mean that you aren't good. It means that you aren't as good as people make you to be.

Amla is a very fine batsman. Quality player and a South African great but by no means a potential ATG and never was.

During his purple patch in 2010-2012, people started putting him in the bracket of Tendulkar and Ponting. He isn't 10% of a player they were.

Should be averaging 40 in Tests.

Also, he shies away from responsibility and is a choker. Hardly matters in Tests though.

I said before the series that he is the type of batsman who does well only when he is in his comfort zone and things are moving at his pace.

When he is attacked, he has no counter. Australia are doing that and which is why he is clueless.

However, he can be potentially very dangerous if you go through the motions. He is like a slow poison, has no presence but will eventually kill you.

keep him on his toes and you have a walking wicket.

In bilateral series', he is a Bradman incarnate however, in ICC World events like the World Cup and Champions Trophy, where the teams are charged up and devise plans, he fails time and time again.
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Amla bhai is a beast in bilaterals no doubt, but when it comes to ICC events, he is not up to the standard. The World Cup is his last chance in his peak, if he fails once again like the 2011 World Cup and 2013 CT, he can score as many runs in bilaterals he likes but it won't mean anything.

You cannot be an ODI legend unless you perform/leave your mark in World Cups.
 
And I am not saying he won't do so in the 2015 World Cup. He is in his peak and the conditions suit him, but so far in ODIs he hasn't shown that he is a pressure player.
 
Mamoon said:
Amla bhai is a beast in bilaterals no doubt, but when it comes to ICC events, he is not up to the standard. The World Cup is his last chance in his peak, if he fails once again like the 2011 World Cup and 2013 CT, he can score as many runs in bilaterals he likes but it won't mean anything.

You cannot be an ODI legend unless you perform/leave your mark in World Cups.
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Read your post from last year again mamoon here is what you said about him in Tests

Mamoon said:
Amla is a very fine batsman. Quality player and a South African great but by no means a potential ATG and never was.

During his purple patch in 2010-2012, people started putting him in the bracket of Tendulkar and Ponting. He isn't 10% of a player they were.

Should be averaging 40 in Tests.
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He can be an ATG in Tests without doing anything in WC. There are ATG who did nothing special on ODI

He is not 10% of what Sachin and Ponting were and he should be averaging 40 are you kidding us?
 
Amla bhai cannot dominate like Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara etc and nor has he played enough pressure knocks like Dravid and Steve Waugh so he's no ATG yet. However he has a few more years left in him and if he can play a few more knocks like he did in Australia and England in 2012, he will definitely enter the ATG category.

He scores too many soft runs for my liking, doesn't give me that feeling of watching a batsman who will be remembered for 50 years after his retirement. If he continues to score runs for 5/6 years more, he will be remembered like Kallis and people don't miss watching Kallis play, but they surely respect the statistics he produced on the cricket pitch.

Amla bhai will be remembered for his statistics, but he needs to play more meaningful and magical knocks.
 
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And I'm talking about legend status in ODIs. Of course you can suck in ODIs and still be a legend in Tests like Gavaskar.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] saying not even 10% is not justifiable and it only shows hate you got against him if you had said 50% i can understand but saying not even 10% clearly shows your hate for him.
 
Amla bhai is like the Dravid of his team (Much better in ODIs, but not as good in Tests) who has always lived in the shadow of his superior (de Villiers, Tendulkar).

de Villiers is no Tendulkar, but he is the danger man of his team. No matter how many runs Amla bhai accumulates, de Villiers remains the prize wicket in the South African team and the player everyone wants to see the back of. Now he's a choker as well, but much more devastating and dangerous than Amla.

To be an ATG, you need more than just statistics. :kallis
 
I'm confused as to why people say Amla is not a good player in the WC. He averages 43.7 in 7 matches in the WC. 2 50's, a 40 and a century.

Cricket is the least individualized sport in the world. If one scores a century and the rest score less than 100, you have a sub 200 score which loses 9 times out of 10 (the 1 being Pakistan). Is that X players fault that the rest did not show up.

The stars have to perfectly align to win WC's and be seen as a "winning player".

He didn't score in the last QF of the WC against NZ and he is not a "pressure player". Why is that?

He didn't score in that particular match, as many players don't do. One match all of a sudden is the be all end all?

He's only played in the one WC, in that one WC he did very well, and in the elimination match he had one failure. What of the matches before? Had his team around him won this match, then he could have done very well in the next match and who knows what that would have led him to.

It's such a fine line to walk on.

Kohli for example is seen as a "pressure player" and I would say he is a pressure player, however in the WC he averages 36. Not bad, but not great either. Yes he does well in the CT by comparison to Amla but in tourney finals, Kohli averages 24.83, and Amla has only played one match and has a 50. Where does the line get drawn? If you don't show up in one match and the other 10 guys also don't show up, you're all of a sudden out and you're not a pressure player. If your team does the job and you get another opportunity to prove yourself you are.

Cricket is such a difficult sport to pinpoint who falls under a certain archetype and who does not.

Let's see what Amla does, but I don't think one failure in the WC after a great WC overall means he isn't a pressure player. 3-4 matches of elimination of playing average is such a small sample size, and these tournaments happen so fast yet are magnified so much, that people get labelled based on small blips on the radar.

If Amla fails again and in elimination matches, then the "choker" label may have some merit, but again, 3-4 elimination matches aren't a large enough sample size to set it in stone.
 
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[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] saying not even 10% is not justifiable and it only shows hate you got against him if you had said 50% i can understand but saying not even 10% clearly shows your hate for him.
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I was generous to say 10% even.

Even mentioning his name alongside Tendulkar, Ponting and Lara is blasphemous. Amla bhai at best can be compared with Dravid and Kallis.
 
steelo green said:
I'm confused as to why people say Amla is not a good player in the WC. He averages 43.7 in 7 matches in the WC. 2 50's, a 40 and a century.

Cricket is the least individualized sport in the world. If one scores a century and the rest score less than 100, you have a sub 200 score which loses 9 times out of 10 (the 1 being Pakistan). Is that X players fault that the rest did not show up.

The stars have to perfectly align to win WC's and be seen as a "winning player".

He didn't score in the last QF of the WC against NZ and he is not a "pressure player". Why is that?

He didn't score in that particular match, as many players don't do. One match all of a sudden is the be all end all?

He's only played in the one WC, in that one WC he did very well, and in the elimination match he had one failure. What of the matches before? Had his team around him won this match, then he could have done very well in the next match and who knows what that would have led him to.

It's such a fine line to walk on.

Kohli for example is seen as a "pressure player" and I would say he is a pressure player, however in the WC he averages 36. Not bad, but not great either. Yes he does well in the CT by comparison to Amla but in tourney finals, Kohli averages 24.83, and Amla has only played one match and has a 50. Where does the line get drawn? If you don't show up in one match and the other 10 guys also don't show up, you're all of a sudden out and you're not a pressure player. If your team does the job and you get another opportunity to prove yourself you are.

Cricket is such a difficult sport to pinpoint who falls under a certain archetype and who does not.

Let's see what Amla does, but I don't think one failure in the WC after a great WC overall means he isn't a pressure player. 3-4 matches of elimination of playing average is such a small sample size, and these tournaments happen so fast yet are magnified so much, that people get labelled based on small blips on the radar.

If Amla fails again and in elimination matches, then the "choker" label may have some merit, but again, 3-4 elimination matches aren't a large enough sample size to set it in stone.
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quality post!
 
In the 2011 World Cup, he boosted his average by that 100 against Netherlands and a 50 vs Bangladesh, against big teams he failed.

In the 2013 Champions Trophy, he once again failed to produce the same magic.

If Kohli retires today, he will not be remembered as an ODI legend; just an exceptionally good batsman. Amla is there as well, but he needs that extra bit of push to be considered an ODI legend.

Of course if you fail in World Cups and have an excellent bilateral career, it doesn't mean that you are not really a pressure player. Yes somehow it leads to it, but performing at the World stage has that vibe to it that is everlasting, for example Ponting and Dhoni in the World Cup final, Tendulkar over numerous World Cups, Wasim Akram in the 1992 Final, Gilchrist in 2007 etc.
 
tauseef_mahmood said:
Why?
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He doesn't have the same impact on the game. First he should become the prized wicket in his team and eclipse de Villiers which he doesn't seem to able to do because de Villiers is much more dangerous.

Amla is a brilliant accumulator and milks the bowlers like no one else, but he doesn't grab the game by the scruff of its neck.
 
Mamoon said:
In the 2011 World Cup, he boosted his average by that 100 against Netherlands and a 50 vs Bangladesh, against big teams he failed.

In the 2013 Champions Trophy, he once again failed to produce the same magic.

If Kohli retires today, he will not be remembered as an ODI legend; just an exceptionally good batsman. Amla is there as well, but he needs that extra bit of push to be considered an ODI legend.

Of course if you fail in World Cups and have an excellent bilateral career, it doesn't mean that you are not really a pressure player. Yes somehow it leads to it, but performing at the World stage has that vibe to it that is everlasting, for example Ponting and Dhoni in the World Cup final, Tendulkar over numerous World Cups, Wasim Akram in the 1992 Final, Gilchrist in 2007 etc.
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Fair enough. I hope he does well in the WC. He is legend quality.
 
When Amla is at the crease, you feel annoyed because you want to get him out of the way because he chokes you to death with time unlike Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara who'd send shivers down your spine and were much more brutal. Tendulkar in his last few years was similar to Amla today but in his youth in the 90's, he was arguably the most complete batsman the game has ever seen.
 
Mamoon said:
When Amla is at the crease, you feel annoyed because you want to get him out of the way because he chokes you to death with time unlike Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara who'd send shivers down your spine and were much more brutal. Tendulkar in his last few years was similar to Amla today but in his youth in the 90's, he was arguably the most complete batsman the game has ever seen.
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Until he met Shoaib.:23:
 
Amla you legend.

you feel annoyed because you want to get him out of the way because he chokes you to death with time unlike Tendulkar
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Simply not true. Just your personal opinion with which everyone would and DOES disagree. The fact is he don't.

If it really was the case, you should've put Tendulkar with Amla too.
 
He still scores loads of runs but something has changed about the way he bats. He used to be a free strokemaker who used to score his runs quite quickly but he has become much more circumspect in the last two years. Starts off much slower. Maybe his role in the batting lineup has changed or perhaps AB's batting has simply eclipsed his. Either way I think he will end up doing better in his Test career than his ODI career by the time he hangs his boots.
 
Hawkeye said:
Amla you legend.



Simply not true. Just your personal opinion with which everyone would and DOES disagree. The fact is he don't.

If it really was the case, you should've put Tendulkar with Amla too.
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Clearly you don't remember Tendulkar in the 90's. He was like Sehwag with the consistency of Amla. He changed a lot after his back injury in 1999/2000. Was never the same.
 
Mamoon said:
Clearly you don't remember Tendulkar in the 90's. He was like Sehwag with the consistency of Amla.
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It doesn't matter. A small era of flashy play doesn't define Tendulkar nor it's associated with him. A slow, bore you to death type of batting does like you mentioned for Amla. I'm pretty sure Amla has played those flashy, fast innings too.

If you're talking about flashy and entertaining innings then Viv, Lara, Ponting, AB de Villiers are the champs who always played like that. The likes of Dravid, Tendu won't be put in that category.

If you're saying are Amla/Tendu/Dravid as entertaining as ABD/Lara/Ponting? Then no. But still all are GREAT and recognized players.
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
He still scores loads of runs but something has changed about the way he bats. He used to be a free strokemaker who used to score his runs quite quickly but he has become much more circumspect in the last two years. Starts off much slower. Maybe his role in the batting lineup has changed or perhaps AB's batting has simply eclipsed his. Either way I think he will end up doing better in his Test career than his ODI career by the time he hangs his boots.
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He lacks presence at the crease. He is there but doesn't worry you too much. Frustrates the bowlers into insanity but doesn't demoralize them.

You can't get a better anchor though, not many batsman can bat at run a ball like he does with such consistency and minimal risk.
 
Fastandfurious said:
Saqi ruined his career by overbowling the doosra instead of keeping it as a surprise.

His career was over before he met Sehwag, that phainty was the final stamp.
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So you think Sachin was no longer the same batsman because he faced Akhtar? Read your (troll) post #416

Sachin first faced Akhtar in 99 and went on to play with same grace & stature till 2013. We all know where Saqi landed after Multan Phainty.

But yea you can believe whatever gives you proper sleep ;-)
 
Hawkeye said:
It doesn't matter. A small era of flashy play doesn't define Tendulkar nor it's associated with him. A slow, bore you to death type of batting does like you mentioned for Amla. I'm pretty sure Amla has played those flashy, fast innings too.

If you're talking about flashy and entertaining innings then Viv, Lara, Ponting, AB de Villiers are the champs who always played like that. The likes of Dravid, Tendu won't be put in that category.

If you're saying are Amla/Tendu/Dravid as entertaining as ABD/Lara/Ponting? Then no. But still all are GREAT and recognized players.
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Not a small era and not necessarily flashly. Tendulkar brutal for a decade and a one man machine. After his back injury and the emergence of Ganguly, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Dhoni etc, he could afford to take a backseat and let them dominate.

Other than a few odd innings, Amla hasn't grabbed the game by the scruff of its neck in ODIs. He has always been an accumulator and not a genuine match winner.

Dravid is no ODI great. Just a decent accumulator in his peak and miles better than Misbah. :srt :baelish
 
Big Boss said:
So you think Sachin was no longer the same batsman because he faced Akhtar? Read your (troll) post #416

Sachin first faced Akhtar in 99 and went on to play with same grace & stature till 2013. We all know where Saqi landed after Multan Phainty.

But yea you can believe whatever gives you proper sleep ;-)
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Sachinista, it was a joke.
 
Tendulkar is Anderson's bunny, not Shoaib.

Razzaq give him a few nightmares too back in the day. :razzaq
 
Mamoon said:
Not a small era and not necessarily flashly. Tendulkar brutal for a decade and a one man machine. After his back injury and the emergence of Ganguly, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Dhoni etc, he could afford to take a backseat and let them dominate.

Other than a few odd innings, Amla hasn't grabbed the game by the scruff of its neck in ODIs. He has always been an accumulator and not a genuine match winner.

Dravid is no ODI great. Just a decent accumulator in his peak and miles better than Misbah. :srt :baelish
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Lol obviously never said Misbah is better than Dravid. :tyrion

Amla is miles better than Dravid though in terms of effectiveness and brutal play. You terming him boring etc is your personal opinion which I respect but majority doesn't, because he's not that type of a player.

Similarly Tendulkar can never be ABD, Viv, Lara or Ponting :)
 
All I'm saying is, Amla bhai needs to be more ruthless with a greater cutting edge. At the moment, he is a statistician's delight, not mine. :baelish
 
Nikhil_cric said:
He still scores loads of runs but something has changed about the way he bats. He used to be a free strokemaker who used to score his runs quite quickly but he has become much more circumspect in the last two years. Starts off much slower. Maybe his role in the batting lineup has changed or perhaps AB's batting has simply eclipsed his. Either way I think he will end up doing better in his Test career than his ODI career by the time he hangs his boots.
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He is the only bat left in this SA batting line who can anchor the innings. Kallis Smith etc are no more there and you can't depend on guys like duminy miller russow de kock plessis etc
 
Strike Rate said:
He is the only bat left in this SA batting line who can anchor the innings. Kallis Smith etc are no more there and you can't depend on guys like duminy miller russow de kock plessis etc
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True. he is a vital cog in the SA scheme of things and a fantastic cricketer. Just dont think he will become an ODI ATG.
 
Hawkeye said:
Amla you legend.



Simply not true. Just your personal opinion with which everyone would and DOES disagree. The fact is he don't.

If it really was the case, you should've put Tendulkar with Amla too.
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i agree with mamoon on this.
 
Hawkeye said:
Lol obviously never said Misbah is better than Dravid. :tyrion

Amla is miles better than Dravid though in terms of effectiveness and brutal play. You terming him boring etc is your personal opinion which I respect but majority doesn't, because he's not that type of a player.

Similarly Tendulkar can never be ABD, Viv, Lara or Ponting :)
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lol what?

in terms of test.... hell no!

in terms of ODI+test.... ok you have a point.
 
Mamoon said:
He lacks presence at the crease. He is there but doesn't worry you too much. Frustrates the bowlers into insanity but doesn't demoralize them.

You can't get a better anchor though, not many batsman can bat at run a ball like he does with such consistency and minimal risk.
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i sleep when he comes.... even as opposition, i pray that he hits some 4s and 6s.... i wana see an entertaining match. not a dull one.
 
Amla has a strike rate close to 90 with an average of 55 in ODI's

Fastest to 2000, 3000, 4000 Odi runs. Will soon be fastest to 5000. Fastest to reach 15 centuries on ODI's.

Tests, average close to 52
Awesome record away and at home
Be it England, Australia, UAE, subcontinent. Spin. Pace. Anything. This guy is just brilliant. Can dig in. Can accelerate.
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
He still scores loads of runs but something has changed about the way he bats. He used to be a free strokemaker who used to score his runs quite quickly but he has become much more circumspect in the last two years. Starts off much slower. Maybe his role in the batting lineup has changed or perhaps AB's batting has simply eclipsed his. Either way I think he will end up doing better in his Test career than his ODI career by the time he hangs his boots.
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I've noticed this as well. His SR has gone down in the past year or so but the funny thing is, his T20 batting has improved in this period. The only logical reasoning for this does seem to be a change of roles. De Kock is a much more aggressive batsman than his previous partner, Smith, so it makes sense for Amla to play the role of anchor. An anchor who still seems to strike at 85-90.

Saqib Yousuf Yatoo said:
Amla has a strike rate close to 90 with an average of 55 in ODI's

Fastest to 2000, 3000, 4000 Odi runs. Will soon be fastest to 5000. Fastest to reach 15 centuries on ODI's.

Tests, average close to 52
Awesome record away and at home
Be it England, Australia, UAE, subcontinent. Spin. Pace. Anything. This guy is just brilliant. Can dig in. Can accelerate.
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Truly a great batsman. Him and ABD are a level above everyone else from this generation. Sanga is a beast in all three formats too but he's not from the new breed of batsmen.

He can legitimately end up as one of the best ever in both ODIs and tests by the time he retires. A super WC next year will help him achieve this target immensely.
 
Itachi said:
lol what?

in terms of test.... hell no!

in terms of ODI+test.... ok you have a point.
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Already much more impactful and versatile than the Wall but obviously you won't agree. It is very likely that he'll surpass Dravid in tests.
 
Stop mentionning Kohli and Amla in the same post guys, Amla is two time the batsman Kohli will be at his best!
 
Saqib Yousuf Yatoo said:
Amla has a strike rate close to 90 with an average of 55 in ODI's

Fastest to 2000, 3000, 4000 Odi runs. Will soon be fastest to 5000. Fastest to reach 15 centuries on ODI's.

Tests, average close to 52
Awesome record away and at home
Be it England, Australia, UAE, subcontinent. Spin. Pace. Anything. This guy is just brilliant. Can dig in. Can accelerate.
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The guy atm is phenomena. Scoring runs even when he is not batting, like in recent matches. Watch out when he really back in form.
 
Mamoon said:
Clearly you don't remember Tendulkar in the 90's. He was like Sehwag with the consistency of Amla. He changed a lot after his back injury in 1999/2000. Was never the same.
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Were you even old enough to watch cricket in the 90s?
 
Yes, I clearly remember his performance against Australia in Sharjah in 98 as well as Australia in 99.

A vastly superior batsman to Amla bhai in case you didn't notice, but let's not compare Bradman to the greatness of Amla bhai even, because unlike Amla bhai, no man alive has seen Bradman bat.

His legacy still lives and so does Tendulkar's, but Amla bhai's legacy will die with his retirement like Kallis. You need more than great stats to leave a lasting impact, you need to inspire a generation with not only your runs but also your swagger and personality. :viv

Amla bhai is lacking in this department like most Saffers.
 
Mamoon said:
Yes, I clearly remember his performance against Australia in Sharjah in 98 as well as Australia in 99.

A vastly superior batsman to Amla bhai in case you didn't notice, but let's not compare Bradman to the greatness of Amla bhai even, because unlike Amla bhai, no man alive has seen Bradman bat.

His legacy still lives and so does Tendulkar's, but Amla bhai's legacy will die with his retirement like Kallis. You need more than great stats to leave a lasting impact, you need to inspire a generation with not only your runs but also your swagger and personality. :viv

Amla bhai is lacking in this department like most Saffers.
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For you maybe but not for me or many other people. Stop promoting your personal opinion down the throat of others. I find his personality and batting quite charming. No one hits a better backfoot cover drive.
 
Hawkeye said:
Lol obviously never said Misbah is better than Dravid. :tyrion

Amla is miles better than Dravid though in terms of effectiveness and brutal play. You terming him boring etc is your personal opinion which I respect but majority doesn't, because he's not that type of a player.

Similarly Tendulkar can never be ABD, Viv, Lara or Ponting :)
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Put Amla down the order where Dravid played in the second half of his career and won us matches chasing , we will see his brute force . if not for the field restrictions this guy would be scoring at a SR of 60 . Has a very limited game & like I have always said never take an openers stats seriously in ODIs unless they are bad . its inflated .
 
Bilal7 said:
For you maybe but not for me or many other people. Stop promoting your personal opinion down the throat of others. I find his personality and batting quite charming. No one hits a better backfoot cover drive.
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lol what is that even supposed to mean ?
 
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Put Amla down the order where Dravid played in the second half of his career and won us matches chasing , we will see his brute force . if not for the field restrictions this guy would be scoring at a SR of 60 . Has a very limited game & like I have always said never take an openers stats seriously in ODIs unless they are bad . its inflated .
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Huh?

So Anwar and SRT's ODI stats are inflated?

Didnt get you.
 
jusarrived said:
Yes they are , to a lesser extent Anwars considering its got much more easier for openers in past 10 years . Tendulkar would not have score half the number of 100s had played in the middle order .
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Tendulkar was an average ODI middle order batsman that doesn't mean his achievements as opener are any less.

We judge players based on their role and not fitting them everywhere.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Tendulkar was an average ODI middle order batsman that doesn't mean his achievements as opener are any less.

We judge players based on their role and not fitting them everywhere.
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Tendulkar had he played in the middle order would have done well imo , he had the game to play at any spot ..unfortunately he chose the easiest spot both in the Test and LOI linups .Am not questioning his ability here.

As for the opening position , you can look at dozens of examples where avg batsmen have looked good and have boosted their stats ..our own Rohit sharma , how was he before he was promoted up the order ?
Players especially in LOIs are judged by their flexibility to play different roles , any batsmen who can only open implies hes limited ...Amla is , a lot of other openers cos they cannot be fit in anywhere else , on the contraray a lot of good middle order batsmen have moved up have bcom great as they will find it much easier.
 
jusarrived said:
Tendulkar had he played in the middle order would have done well imo , he had the game to play at any spot ..unfortunately he chose the easiest spot both in the Test and LOI linups .Am not questioning his ability here.

As for the opening position , you can look at dozens of examples where avg batsmen have looked good and have boosted their stats ..our own Rohit sharma , how was he before he was promoted up the order ?
Players especially in LOIs are judged by their flexibility to play different roles , any batsmen who can only open implies hes limited ...Amla is , a lot of other openers cos they cannot be fit in anywhere else , on the contraray a lot of good middle order batsmen have moved up have bcom great as they will find it much easier.
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They become great due to their performance at that place.

I get the part that some players can play well both in middle order and opening but the great players do brilliantly at the spot they like which is why they are great.

Many of the versatile players may not do AS WELL in a particular spot as the great players do in the spot of their liking.

Also no 4 in tests is anything but easy. Plus Sachin opened in an era (ODI 90's) where the pitches weren't this flat and there were ATG bowlers in the opposition.

No 2 new balls meant:

1. Reverse swing was an entity later on
2. It wasn't as easy to smash the ball around after 25 overs as it is now
 
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Amla isn't a pressure player but Sachin is hahaha. Sachin is born choker. Failed every pressure situation. Amla scored a lot of pressure knocks.
 
Not sure if

Hashim amla the sinking ship or...

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Lol inspiring generation to be a great cricketer. pIn that sense Lillee is the greatest fast bowler and McGrath is just a trundler. t20 fans are designed that way and will never understand cricket.
 
Kholi is a mini Sachin Tenchoker. Hasnt done anything in test cricket. Chased a few decent targets in meaningless ODIs against rubbish attack like Sachin and thats about but apparently he is the saviour.
 
jusarrived said:
lol what is that even supposed to mean ?
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Not my fault you're not familiar with cricketing strokes.

jusarrived said:


Put Amla down the order where Dravid played in the second half of his career and won us matches chasing , we will see his brute force . if not for the field restrictions this guy would be scoring at a SR of 60 . Has a very limited game & like I have always said never take an openers stats seriously in ODIs unless they are bad . its inflated .
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What silly logic. Put Dhoni and ABD at the top of the order and then we'll see their ability against the new ball.

Amla haters need to grow up, he won't end up as better than Sachin. Chillax.
 
Thanks,
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Bilal7 said:
Not my fault you're not familiar with cricketing strokes.



What silly logic. Put Dhoni and ABD at the top of the order and then we'll see their ability against the new ball.

Amla haters need to grow up, he won't end up as better than Sachin. Chillax.
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you dont really need any ability facing the new ball in LOIs , even Sarfarz agrees .
 
jusarrived said:
you dont really need any ability facing the new ball in LOIs , even Sarfarz agrees .
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You must have missed the game where No.hit "come to India" Sharma could not get anywhere near Steyn. He had no clue whatsoever and we're talking about the white ball here.
On that very same pitch Amla scored 70 odd easily.
He makes cricket looks so easy sometimes that we end up taking him for granted.
 
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soso_killer said:
You must have missed the game where ***** "come to India" Sharma could not get anywhere near Steyn. He had no clue whatsoever and we're talking about the white ball here.
On that very same pitch Amla scored 70 odd easily.
He makes cricket looks so easy sometimes that we end up taking him for granted.
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Has a knack of scoring in the most difficult conditions and against the best bowlers. Have seen it way too many times.
 
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