Hashim Amla | The Mega Discussion Thread

[bill_123]

and cricinfo recently published a article whr i saw how amla averages the best in asian conditions against spin of all da overseas batsmen.....kallis and de villiers hav done really well 2

 

[James]

Yeah that was a decent innings, it was an absurdly flat wicket though. I get the feeling the upcoming three-test series will force some spicy wickets, which will sort the men from the boys, on both sides

 

[Inziquicksingle]

he's ready

 

[Inziquicksingle]

and his odi stats r anyway second to none...and for a guy who was not considered as a ONE DAY player his strike rate of 92 ish is scary good

I think what really helped his game was when he was given a chance to play ODIs. It really improved him as a player overall. I'm not sure why (confidence maybe?), but his results improved drastically from 2008 on-wards.

His Test stats since he made his ODI debut are 34 matches avg of 56 and 11 100's while being the #1 ODI batter in the world.

 

[bill_123]

I think what really helped his game was when he was given a chance to play ODIs. It really improved him as a player overall. I'm not sure why (confidence maybe?), but his results improved drastically from 2008 on-wards.

His Test stats since he made his ODI debut are 34 matches avg of 56 and 11 100's while being the #1 ODI batter in the world.

yep ur right thr...also imo ODI cricket added another dimension to his test career....before he was more a grafter....now he has started playin either type of innings....aggressive sort or defensive sort acc to the situation....for eg his inning in 4th inning against aus in a test last year came at 83 runs/100 balls....say in 2006-09 i dont think he would hav pulled it off at 83......maybe more close to 55-60.....

but its great dat he can play both ways now.....dats why i say giv him some time in t20's and he can be atleast VERY GOOD thr 2....

 

[observer1]

He's good but he's not that good. Certainly not the best batsman in the world - like Ringo, not even the best drummer in the Beatles. Give me Smith in a second innings run chase, Kallis in the first innings, or Abraham in an ODI.

Well he does have the highest ODI average in cricket at the moment.

Besides, you don't have to be a good player to have fans.Have you not seen the Shoaib Malik Support threads?

 

[Lethalweapon]

Moreso than the identity of the bowlers is the whole swing thing, which has been the scourge of many :VVS

corrected. Sehwag started opening in England, avg.40 before last tour. VVS has been worse, hardly managing 50s forget tons and Sehwag would still have a better chance of getting 100 in england then VVS.

 

[VolcanicAsh]

Even if its not meant to be this thread has all the ingredients of epic jynx thread. I predict Hashim Amla failing in every of his innings in NZ and op you are partly responsible for that.

 

[cric_craze]

Mashallah he's soo humble and an amazing role model. An inspiration for everyone. He's performing good so far in NZ, great catch in the last over. May Allah bless him in this life and in the hereafter.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Even if its not meant to be this thread has all the ingredients of epic jynx thread. I predict Hashim Amla failing in every of his innings in NZ and op you are partly responsible for that.

I have a great record in these threads:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=141780&highlight=sehwag

 

[VolcanicAsh]

I have a great record in these threads:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=141780&highlight=sehwag

The difference is you could have careless whether Sehwag got it or not but when it comes to Amla you have genuine interest in his success hence this thread will come back to haunt you.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

The difference is you could have careless whether Sehwag got it or not but when it comes to Amla you have genuine interest in his success hence this thread will come back to haunt you.

hmmm no, Amla is jinx-proof..you didn't know?

 

[VolcanicAsh]

We'll see, I will remind you of this thread after each Amla failure.

P.S NZ start times are the best for people who live on the east coast, prime time Television.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

P.S NZ start times are the best for people who live on the east coast, prime time Television.

I agree! Perfect timing. I'm going skiing tomorrow inshaAllah, should be back right on time to catch the innings. I know you'll be praying for an Amla special.

 

[VolcanicAsh]

^
Enjoy your trip, I will be watching inshallah time permitting.

 

[JustAnotherFan]

Oh well Amla gone for 8.

 

[VolcanicAsh]

OP is to blame for this, expect a lot more of the same from Amla and OP you are responsible.

 

[style_guru]

This post is in fond memory of a person called 'Shickelgruber'. I am sure wherever he is, must be proud of this:-



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[Inziquicksingle]

The great one will come back strong.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

OP is to blame for this, expect a lot more of the same from Amla and OP you are responsible.

) you're funny.

 

[JustAnotherFan]

Best thing about Proteas, when Amla fails then someone else steps in.

 

[ninjafirstslip]

OP should shoulder blame. Jinx thread.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Best thing about Proteas, when Amla fails then someone else steps in.

AB is amazing. Great finisher.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

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[Inziquicksingle]

How many batsmen can do this?

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[James]

'The uploader has not made this video available in your country'

 

[James]

Best thing about Proteas, when Amla fails then someone else steps in.

Yep because there are better players than him in the team.

 

[straightdrive1]

Yep because there are better players than him in the team.

He is No.1 in ODIs and his average of 55 did not just appear out of thin air..

He worked hard for it and if there are better players than him in South Africa then why don't they have Averages and Rankings above H.Amla?

I don't understand how people can say that he is over-rated....
Those people are just simply jealous(No-Offence)..

 

[James]

Amla is a good batsman but when push comes to shove, Smith, Kallis and AB are the proven match-winners in this team

 

[Inziquicksingle]

How many batsmen can do this?

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Repeating from page one.

 

[Lara400]

Amla is a good batsman but when push comes to shove, Smith, Kallis and AB are the proven match-winners in this team

Agree, that also applies to Amla of late and no less.

 

[bill_123]

amla has a cold and may not play tomorrow....tho ab said he expects him and smith(arm injury) to play.....lets see

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Hopefully a cold wont prevent the great one from padding up.

 

[amlafan79]

today he will atleast get a 50
hopefully he peaks at right time.. (english tour )

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Maybe Virat Kohli who must be very close to the number one ODI ranking breathing down Amla's neck will inspire a brilliant knock?

 

[Inziquicksingle]

plays off a maiden from Mills.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

0* (8) no rush at all. Making me nervous though.

off the mark

smashes one uppishly through point for :4

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Another :4 for Amla. Pressure on him after Kallis departs early again.

looking much better today. Leaving balls outside the off. 18 off 18 with 4 fours. All of them timed perfectly.

 

[Love Pakistan]

hit three fours to Southee in a row! I just love when Southee gets hit!

 

[Inziquicksingle]

hits his 6th 4.

Putting on a real clinic in 4 hitting. Cuts, cover drives, on the up, whip off the legs, straight drive.

26 (20)

 

[Inziquicksingle]

He just cut one so hard that it would have hurt a fielder if they tried to field it.

7 fours in his 32* (28)

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Vaughan-esque pull for 3.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

plays his second maiden of this innings. Still somehow maintaining an SR of 95+. Power of the :4

 

[Inziquicksingle]

closing in on a fifty here. On 48 in 49.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Fifty for the great one. Well played. Almost every shot in the book.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Lucky for

Gets a top edge off a sweep but it lands safely!!

OH GOODNESS LOL and he's been dropped off a sitter.

Finally some luck going his way.

I'm not sure what Amla was trying there? Playing ugly hoicks should be only for etc. Not

 

[Inziquicksingle]

slowed down a little. Getting bored it almost looks like. 66 in 76. This would be racing along for others

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Amla really being more patient since the drop catch. 79* SR close to 90 still.

 

[ramzz]

Brilliant batsman! Good average and has very nice shots in his Arsenal. He is also playing a very good knock today!

 

[Inziquicksingle]

In the 90ies now. Got a brilliant yorker from McKay. 91mph just missing off.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

for 92 in 107. Good innings but missed out on his 10th hundred.

Have to say that the first half of the innings was much better than the second. Looked tired and lazy in the second half.

Oh well, not a jinx thread after all.

 

[Khan6575]

Just 8 short of a century, just another day at the office for Amla. Whippy and the rest of the haters have disappeared.

 

[VolcanicAsh]

I followed the innings up until Amla got his 50 and the Kiwi commies were at awe by the masterful strokes played by the legend. Despite OP's best attempts at jinxing the legend comes through in flying colors .

 

[James]

I am not a hater. I have never been a hater of anyone, I'm just not like that. I am in this case a rater. But I have been saying for a good year or two that Amla is the fourth best batsman (still good) in the Springbok lineup and I stick by it.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

First or Second best in ODIs

 

[VolcanicAsh]

Who cares what Whippy thinks, Whippy ones thought and argued vigorously that Swann is the best spinner in the world ) Bias views are bias.

 

[James]

Hm, when was that discussion last held? A year ago, when he was? Ajmal surpassed him this January and I was holding my hands up the same day, so no point trolling me really. Anyway that is off-topic.

Smith, Kallis, de Villiers, Amla. Quality South Africa batsmen - in that order.

 

[James]

First or Second best in ODIs

de Villiers and Amla

Pietersen and Kohli are pretty good too

 

[greekscavenger]

Who cares what Whippy thinks, Whippy ones thought and argued vigorously that Swann is the best spinner in the world Bias views are bias.

Well quite frankly from 2009-mid 2011 he really was.

 

[James]

Well quite frankly from 2009-mid 2011 he really was.

Well-argued opinions aren't important, only trolls are important

 

[VolcanicAsh]

Hm, when was that discussion last held? A year ago, when he was? Ajmal surpassed him this January and I was holding my hands up the same day, so no point trolling me really. Anyway that is off-topic.

Smith, Kallis, de Villiers, Amla. Quality South Africa batsmen - in that order.

Swann was never the best spinner in the world, on what basis did you claim he was the best spinner? On his performance in his backyard against a inexperience Pakistan, Bangla and a Sri Lankan team led by Dilshan?

Anyways stop derailing the thread please, this thread is about Amla and his performance in New Zealand yet you keep bringing Smith, Kallis and Abraham. :whatsupwiththat

Haters gonna hate.

 

[greekscavenger]

Well-argued opinions aren't important, only trolls are important

Did you also find it really ironic the poster ramballed on about bias?

I mean, was that the literal definition of irony?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Smith, Kallis, de Villiers, Amla. Quality South Africa batsmen - in that order.

Thats about right if you consider all formats.

Its not an insult at all to be 4th in that list.

 

[greekscavenger]

Swann was never the best spinner in the world, on what basis did you claim he was the best spinner? On his performance in his backyard against a inexperience Pakistan, Bangla and a Sri Lankan team led by Dilshan?

Well, it certainly beats any other spinners performances during that time phase. You also cease to mention he ran through the 2009 Australian side, the 2011 Australian side and also did remarkably well in South Africa which is known for being a spinners graveyard. Oh, and he absolutely demolished India's so called "Play spin with ease" batting lineup in the Oval.

Do you want to compare that to Ajmal's performances in the same year or Singh's?

 

[James]

Swann was never the best spinner in the world, on what basis did you claim he was the best spinner? On his performance in his backyard against a inexperience Pakistan, Bangla and a Sri Lankan team led by Dilshan?

Anyways stop derailing the thread please, this thread is about Amla and his performance in New Zealand yet you keep bringing Smith, Kallis and Abraham. :whatsupwiththat

Haters gonna hate.

My arguments at the time were perfectly valid, 7-fer in Australia, 8-fer v India and 10-fer in SA are quality

But you're the one who derailed it by trolling me and somehow getting on to spinners

'Haters gonna hate' indeedy

 

[VolcanicAsh]

Greeks please stop derailing this thread, I know its hurts you English fans for not stealing AB, Kallis and Amla from SA but simmer down son. You will be okay.

 

[James]

Thats about right if you consider all formats.

Its not an insult at all to be 4th in that list.

I think so too, in every way. And I don't think I qualify as a hater on that basis.

 

[greekscavenger]

I think frankly Whippy is one of the most objective posters here.

If he is defined as bais who the hell are those people claiming Ali > Trott, Hafeez = Cook and Gul > Anderson/Broad?

 

[James]

Calm down fellas...

But thanks for the feedback

 

[Inziquicksingle]

But I have been saying for a good year or two that Amla is the fourth best batsman (still good) in the Springbok lineup and I stick by it.

Oh come on!

That is so over the top. He might not be better than Kallis or AB at their best (as of yet) but in no way is the gap wide enough to call him the fourth best with any sort of authority or confidence.

 

[James]

Well you said you rate Kallis and AB above, so that's third best already.

And Smith is the one who led SA to their first test series wins in Australia and England since readmission (with bat and captaincy), has scored a zillion runs in England actually and also inspired SA to countless ODI wins across the world. A legend.

Amla? A very good fourth best.

 

[VolcanicAsh]

Next Match

New Zealand v South Africa at Auckland, 3rd ODI, Sunday, March 3

With the series already won SA may choose to rest some of their key players, Amla might get a rest

Looking forward to the test matches already.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Are you not talking about currently the best? Of course career wise Amla is a baby compared to Kallis and Smith.

I'm mostly talking about who right now based on current form/age/recent record is a better batsman.

Amla is with AB the best in ODI's. His ODI record as it stands is the GOAT. I know he hasn't played enough to call him an ATG YET but he is #1 in the ODI rankings.

Tests wise, he is probably currently their 3rd best just behind Kallis. Kallis is pretty old and was in horrible form until that 200 vs SL. I think this time next year Amla will be better than Kallis.

 

[James]

It depends how you rate players. By your way he is maybe a bit higher than four. But by my way he still a four. When push comes to shove there are three players in that lineup I would rather have. That's all. No problem. And a very very good fourth it is

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Next Match

New Zealand v South Africa at Auckland, 3rd ODI, Sunday, March 3

With the series already won SA may choose to rest some of their key players, Amla might get a rest

Looking forward to the test matches already.

Look at you being an Amla fan allofasudden

I really doubt they would rest him. They need him in good form before the Tests and being the 1 down batsman he needs to have a lot of match practice. Probably going to rest the bowlers if anything.

 

[James]

VA's always been an Amla fan

 

[Inziquicksingle]

It depends how you rate players. By your way he is maybe a bit higher than four. But by my way he still a four. When push comes to shove there are three players in that lineup I would rather have. That's all. No problem. And a very very good fourth it is

Thats cool, as long as you stay consistent with your opinions. We can re-visit this discussion in about 6 months time and see where we stand

 

[James]

Of course, always willing

 

[VolcanicAsh]

Look at you being an Amla fan allofasudden

I really doubt they would rest him. They need him in good form before the Tests and being the 1 down batsman he needs to have a lot of match practice. Probably going to rest the bowlers if anything.

What can I do bro, Amla has that effect on you.

 

[Inziquicksingle]

Its strange how little SA play ODI cricket. India on the other hand