How China is replacing America as Asia's military titan

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HONG KONG (Reuters) - In 1938, in the midst of a long campaign to bring China under Communist Party rule, revolutionary leader Mao Zedong wrote: “Whoever has an army has power.”

Xi Jinping, Mao’s latest successor, has taken that dictum to heart.

He has donned camouflage fatigues, installed himself as commander-in-chief and taken control of the two million-strong Chinese military, the People’s Liberation Army. It is the biggest overhaul of the PLA since Mao led it to victory in the nation’s civil war and founded the People’s Republic in 1949.

Xi has accelerated the PLA’s shift to naval power from a traditionally land-based force. He has broken up its vast, Maoist-era military bureaucracy. A new chain of command leads directly to Xi as chairman of the Central Military Commission, China’s top military decision-making body. Operational leadership of naval, missile, air, ground and cyber forces has been separated from administration and training - a structure that Chinese and Western defense analysts say borrows from U.S. military organization.

The Chinese leader isn’t just revolutionizing the PLA. Xi is making a series of moves that are transforming both China and the global order. He has abandoned reform architect Deng Xiaoping’s injunction that China should hide its strength and bide its time. The waiting game is over. Xi’s speeches are peppered with references to his “Chinese dream,” where an ancient nation recovers from the humiliation of foreign invasion and retakes its rightful place as the dominant power in Asia.

The effort includes signature shows of soft power: Xi’s multibillion-dollar “Belt and Road” program to build a global trade and infrastructure network with China at its center, and his “Made in China 2025” plan to turn the country into a high-tech manufacturing giant.

But the boldest stroke is his expansion of China’s hard power, through his remaking of the PLA, the world’s largest fighting force. At the core of this vision of national renewal is a loyal, corruption-free military that Xi demands must be prepared to fight and win.

His push to project power abroad was accompanied by a power play at home. Xi has purged more than 100 generals accused of corruption or disloyalty, according to the official state-controlled media.

A raw demonstration of his authority came when state television broadcast a laudatory documentary series about the PLA, “Strong Military.” In one scene in the 2017 series, an elderly man sits in a military court at a desk marked “defendant,” looking frail in a navy-blue civilian jacket. It is Guo Boxiong, a former general and the most senior officer convicted in Xi’s purge. He reads his confession to charges of bribery from a sheaf of papers gripped in both hands.

“The Central Military Commission dealt with my case completely correctly,” says Guo, who had once served as vice-chairman of the body. “I must confess my guilt and take responsibility for it.” Guo was sentenced to life in prison.

In a series of stories, Reuters is exploring how the rapid and disruptive advance of Chinese hard power on Xi Jinping’s watch has ended the era of unquestioned U.S. supremacy in Asia. In just over two decades, China has built a force of conventional missiles that rival or outperform those in the U.S. armory. China’s shipyards have spawned the world’s biggest navy, which now rules the waves in East Asia. Beijing can now launch nuclear-armed missiles from an operational fleet of ballistic missile submarines, giving it a powerful second-strike capability. And the PLA is fortifying posts across vast expanses of the South China Sea, while stepping up preparations to recover Taiwan, by force if necessary.

‘THE U.S. COULD LOSE’
For the first time since Portuguese traders reached the Chinese coast five centuries ago, China has the military power to dominate the seas off its coast. Conflict between China and the United States in these waters would be destructive and bloody, particularly a clash over Taiwan, according to serving and retired senior American officers. And despite decades of unrivaled power since the end of the Cold War, there would be no guarantee America would prevail.

“The U.S. could lose,” said Gary Roughead, co-chair of a bipartisan review of the Trump administration’s defense strategy published in November. “We really are at a significant inflection point in history.”

Roughead is no armchair theorist: A retired admiral, as former Chief of Naval Operations he held the top job in the U.S. Navy until 2011. His alarm reflects a growing view across the American defense establishment. In their report, he and his colleagues issued a dire warning. The United States faces a “national security crisis,” principally arising from growing Chinese and Russian military power. “U.S. military superiority is no longer assured and the implications for American interests and American security are severe,” the panel concluded.

It is clear that Xi wants to bring the era of U.S. dominance in Asia to an end. “In the final analysis, it is for the people of Asia to run the affairs of Asia, solve the problems of Asia and uphold the security of Asia,” he said in a 2014 speech to foreign leaders on regional security.

China’s Ministry of National Defense, the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command and the Pentagon did not respond to questions for this article or detailed summaries of its findings.

This account of Xi and the PLA - which despite the “army” in its name comprises all military branches - is based on interviews with 17 current and former military officers from China, the United States, Taiwan and Australia. Many would only speak on condition of anonymity. It draws on the accounts of Chinese officials and people with ties to the senior leadership in Beijing who have known Xi Jinping and his family for decades and are familiar with his career as he rose through the party and government bureaucracy. It also relies on Chinese government publications describing Xi’s political thinking, his speeches and official documentaries showcasing his leadership of the military.

In Washington, the world’s pre-eminent military power is mobilizing to respond. After decades of seeking engagement in the expectation that Beijing would become a cooperative partner in world affairs, the United States is treating China as a strategic competitor bent on displacing it as Asia’s dominant force.

Largely in reaction to this challenge, Washington is boosting defense spending, rebuilding its navy and urgently developing new weapons, particularly longer range conventional missiles. It is expanding military ties with other regional powers, including Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Australia, Singapore and India. And it’s conducting an international diplomatic and intelligence campaign to counter China’s cyber-attacks, traditional espionage and intellectual property theft. This campaign includes efforts to contain the global reach of Chinese telecom companies Huawei and ZTE Corp.

The confrontation comes as the administration of President Donald Trump is waging a tariff war aimed at reducing China’s massive trade surplus with the United States. However the trade conflict is resolved, a graver risk is the possibility that the deeper tensions could boil over into an armed clash between Beijing and Washington and its allies in the hotly contested maritime zones off the Chinese coast.

UNEXPECTED RISE
The rise of the PLA is not all Xi’s doing. Long before he took power, the military had been transformed from the massive but rudimentary land force that swept Mao and his comrades, including Xi’s father, to victory over the Nationalists in 1949. Decades of steep increases in defense spending paid for an arsenal of high technology weapons; millions of soldiers were demobilized. But corruption became endemic.

Xi’s two predecessors, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao, were civilians who took office without a network of support among PLA brass. They fostered loyalty through patronage, pay rises and budget increases, according to Chinese and Taiwanese analysts and retired officers. Under the weak leadership of Hu in particular, they say, senior officers exploited their positions to siphon off money, particularly from the logistic and equipment budgets. Rank buying became rampant.

The military hierarchy Xi inherited had become a law unto itself under Hu, according to Li Nan, a scholar of the Chinese military at the National University of Singapore. “It was out of control, in a sense,” said Li. “Now the power is centralized in the hands of Xi Jinping.”

Xi, a so-called princeling, grew up as a member of China’s Communist Party aristocracy, even though his family suffered separation and persecution in Mao’s chaotic Cultural Revolution. His late father, Xi Zhongxun, was a revolutionary military leader who became a top government official in the early years of Communist rule. He was later purged in Mao’s upheavals, before emerging a key leader of China’s market reforms in the 1980s.

Xi’s dramatic accumulation of power was unexpected. He took a low profile as he slowly worked his way up the Communist Party and state bureaucracy, according to multiple Chinese familiar with his early career.

His first job out of university in 1979 was serving in a junior post as a uniformed aide to General Geng Biao, then minister of defense. Xi’s official biography records this three-year posting as “active duty.” In this role, he had access to classified military documents, including files on the 1979 Chinese invasion of Vietnam, according to sources with ties to the leadership. He had to memorize hundreds of telephone numbers and was not allowed to rely on a telephone book, in case it was lost or stolen, they said.

He then began a series of provincial government and party postings. In these roles, his performance was relatively unremarkable. As governor of the southeastern Province of Fujian, for instance, he was obsessed with the bureaucratic routine of political study sessions where officials review Communist Party documents and speeches of senior leaders, according to people who knew him at the time.

And he was far from universally popular. He finished last in elections for alternate members of the party’s 200-strong Central Committee during the 15th Communist Party Congress in 1997.

This nondescript record appears to have worked in his favor. During his period as China’s paramount leader, President Jiang Zemin handpicked Xi for senior office because the younger man was perceived to lack ambition, according to sources with close ties to the Chinese leadership. Xi was also thought to be a pliable candidate because he lacked a power base, one source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

But as China’s top leader, he has shown a willingness to impose radical change at the top of the party, government and military.

“When I talk to my mainland friends, they all say he is a risk taker,” said Andrew Yang Nien-Dzu, former defense minister of Taiwan. “You never know what his next move will be.”

XI THE SOLDIER
From the beginning, Xi’s corruption purge and promotion of loyal officers made it clear he had big plans for the PLA. Then, in mid-2015, he cut 300,000 mostly non-combat and administrative personnel before launching a sweeping overhaul of the military structure.

He broke up the four sprawling, Maoist-era “general departments” of the PLA that had become powerful, highly autonomous and deeply corrupt, said Li from the National University of Singapore. Xi replaced them with 15 new agencies that report directly to the Central Military Commission he chairs.

He also scrapped the seven geographically based military regions and replaced them with five joint-service theater commands. These new regional commands, comparable to those that govern the U.S. armed forces, are responsible for military operations and have a strong focus on combining air, land, naval and other capabilities of the Chinese armed forces to suit modern warfare.

Xi also promoted favored commanders, many of them officers he knew in Fujian and Zhejiang provinces, where he served the bulk of his early career as an official, according to Chinese and Western observers of the PLA. Others hail from his home province of Shaanxi or are fellow princelings.

At the 19th Party Congress in October 2017, Xi further tightened his grip over the top military leadership, paring the Central Military Commission from 11 members to seven and stacking it with loyalists. Xi knew most of them from Shaanxi and Fujian.

As he burnishes his military credentials, Xi draws on his early service in uniform. In speeches to military audiences, he describes himself as a soldier-turned-official, according to reports in the state-controlled media. In distinctive PLA camouflage fatigues, cap and combat boots, he has overseen some of the biggest military parades since the 1949 Communist victory. In the most recent of these displays, Xi has taken the salute from the troops without sharing the podium with the usual line-up of fellow party leaders and elders.

In a massive naval exercise in April last year, Xi boarded the guided-missile destroyer Changsha to review the Chinese fleet of 48 warships in the South China Sea. State-run television showed the navy commander, Vice Admiral Shen Jinlong, and navy political commissar, Vice Admiral Qin Shengxiang, standing to attention as they reported to Xi and saluted. Xi then gave the order for the exercise to proceed.

Both navy chiefs are Xi protégés. Shen has been rapidly promoted under Xi, leapfrogging other, more senior officers, according to Chinese and Western analysts. Qin had worked closely with the Chinese leader in a top post in the Central Military Commission before his promotion in 2017 to his navy role, China’s official military media reported.

Xi was also in fatigues again in July 2017 at a massive military parade to mark the 90th anniversary of the PLA at the Zhurihe training ground in Inner Mongolia. He took the salute from the parade commander, General Han Weiguo, an officer who served in Fujian while Xi was a party and government official in the province. Han has enjoyed a meteoric rise under Xi, being promoted to command China’s ground forces shortly after this parade.

“Xi Jinping is obsessed with military parades,” said Willy Lam Wo-lap, a veteran observer of personnel movements in China’s military and political elites and a professor at the Chinese University of Hong Kong. “He loves these demonstrations of raw power.”

As part of Xi’s martial image-building, the party’s propaganda machine portrays him as the leader responsible for a decisive pivot in China’s recovery from foreign conquest and colonial domination that began with the First Opium War in the mid-19th Century.

In the opening scenes of the “Strong Military” documentary, Xi is shown boarding the guided missile destroyer Haikou at Shekou port on December 8, 2012, and sailing into the South China Sea for the first time since becoming party and military chief that year. As Xi looks to the horizon through binoculars, the narrator says: “As the warship pierces the waves, Xi Jinping peers toward a vision obscured in the mist of history when, 170 years ago, Western powers came from the sea to open the door to China, beginning a bitter nightmare for ancient China.”

The nightmare ends, according to the documentary, with the Communist victory under Mao and the periods of growing economic and military power under former leaders Deng, Jiang and Hu. With Xi in charge, the series shows, a heavily armed China is poised to recover its former glory.

PRESSURE ON TAIWAN
Propaganda aside, Xi is proving far more assertive than his most recent predecessors in employing China’s new military power. In 2013, China began dredging and island-building in the disputed Spratly Islands in the South China Sea, an area in which Beijing has competing territorial claims with the Philippines, Malaysia, Taiwan, Vietnam and Brunei.

Xi personally directed these moves, according to a July 2017 commentary in Study Times, the official mouthpiece of the Communist Party’s Central Party School. “It is the equivalent of building a Great Wall at sea,” the commentary said.

Extensive fortification of these outposts, including missile batteries, means that China has virtually annexed a vast swathe of this ocean. Ahead of his May 30 appointment to head the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, Admiral Philip Davidson told a Congressional committee that China was now capable of controlling the South China Sea in all scenarios “short of war.”

Xi is also stepping up military pressure on Taiwan, Japan and India. Alongside a massive arsenal of missiles capable of striking Taiwan, Chinese naval and air forces conduct increasingly complex exercises that regularly encircle the self-governing island.

These exercises are designed to intimidate Taiwan and wear down its forces which must respond to these drills, according to some Taiwanese defense analysts. “They are obviously applying a lot of coercive power over Taiwan,” said Yang, the former Taiwan defense minister. Beijing regards Taiwan as a renegade province and is determined to bring it under mainland control.

In response to questions from Reuters, Taiwan’s Defense Ministry said it would continue to maintain surveillance and deploy aircraft and warships to “ensure the safety of our nation’s air and sea territory.”

Chinese naval and air forces are also increasing the tempo of deployments, exercises and patrols through the Japanese island chain. Japan’s annual military White Paper last year said China’s “unilateral escalation” of activities around Japan was arousing strong security concerns. Japanese interceptors scrambled 638 times in the past year against Chinese aircraft, the government reported this month, up almost 30 percent from the year before.

“China has expanded and intensified military activities not only in the East China Sea, but also in the Pacific Ocean and the seas around Japan,” the Japanese Defense Ministry said in response to questions from Reuters. “These activities appear aimed at improving operational capability and bolstering China’s presence.”

Despite these assertive moves, there are still questions from inside the PLA about the capacity of Chinese forces to compete with the United States and other advanced military powers. In numerous published commentaries, Chinese officers and strategists point to the PLA’s lack of experience in conflict, technological shortcomings and failure to introduce effective command and control.

Xi’s power grab and bold agenda also carry great risk for him personally, the party and China. There has been widespread speculation in China that the corruption crackdown in the military and a parallel purge of party and government officials is at least in part Xi’s response to a vicious, behind-the-scenes power struggle.

Rare evidence of this surfaced at a key gathering of top officials. On the sidelines of the 19th Party Congress in October 2017, Liu Shiyu, then China’s chief stock market regulator, accused a group of senior officials deposed in the purge of plotting a coup, including the disgraced former military chief Guo Boxiong. Earlier, the official military newspaper hinted at similar accusations, without citing evidence. Guo, who was imprisoned on corruption charges, could not be reached for comment. The Chinese government has not commented further on this allegation.

In bringing down so many powerful military and party leaders and their factions, Xi has made many dangerous enemies, say people with ties to the leadership. And steep increases in military spending will become more difficult to sustain if the growth of the debt-burdened Chinese economy continues to slow.

Still, Xi shows no sign of toning down his drive to galvanize the Chinese military. On October 25, he toured the Southern Theater Command in the city of Guangzhou, the headquarters responsible for the contested South China Sea. State television showed Xi in fatigues and combat boots, striding through the command post with senior brass. Xi, state media reported, told officers to concentrate on “preparing for war and combat.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...america-as-asias-military-titan-idUSKCN1RZ12L
 
No wonder Americans are outraged. The very thought of China replacing USA as the dominant force in Asia must make most American patriot's blood boil. President Trump should address this promptly with a public statement that China should mind it's own business and not interfere with American property.
 
china are small fry in asia.
they need to display their strength in order to be taken seriously as a military force.
 
Are you indian ?

lol no. I am NOT Indian.
by the way, when i said about china not winning a successful war, i did nto take the sino indian border conflicts into comparison.

my point was, that china needs a military show of strength. It needs to demonstrate its power capability to the world,to prove that it is on the same level as the US. The time to bide one's time and hide one's strength, which is a philosophy of the chinese state is over.

And how does one show off this strength?
by invading and destroying a major country, ala US invasions of iraq.

what they will need is an alibi. for example, Chinese claims to South Tibet( Aurnachal Pradesh)

If the chinese wish to be taken seriously as a great military power, then they should prove it.
 
lol no. I am NOT Indian.
by the way, when i said about china not winning a successful war, i did nto take the sino indian border conflicts into comparison.

my point was, that china needs a military show of strength. It needs to demonstrate its power capability to the world,to prove that it is on the same level as the US. The time to bide one's time and hide one's strength, which is a philosophy of the chinese state is over.

And how does one show off this strength?
by invading and destroying a major country, ala US invasions of iraq.

what they will need is an alibi. for example, Chinese claims to South Tibet( Aurnachal Pradesh)

If the chinese wish to be taken seriously as a great military power, then they should prove it.

They don't need to.

Everyone knows about their strength.

Nation doesn't have to kill thousands to be taken seriously as a strong nation.
 
to be honest they do.

If they want to prove their ruthlessness perhaps. But even knowledge that you have military capability is a deterrent. Look at the cold war with Russia where Americans wouldn't want to take on Russia directly in the 80's or 90's, but would use proxies to test for weakness.
 
If they want to prove their ruthlessness perhaps. But even knowledge that you have military capability is a deterrent. Look at the cold war with Russia where Americans wouldn't want to take on Russia directly in the 80's or 90's, but would use proxies to test for weakness.

still war helps one to show who has better military capabilities.

The 65 war is an example of this.

And war could lead to further improvement aswell. Like during the world war radar technology and enigma were introduced.
 
lol no. I am NOT Indian.
by the way, when i said about china not winning a successful war, i did nto take the sino indian border conflicts into comparison.

my point was, that china needs a military show of strength. It needs to demonstrate its power capability to the world,to prove that it is on the same level as the US. The time to bide one's time and hide one's strength, which is a philosophy of the chinese state is over.

And how does one show off this strength?
by invading and destroying a major country, ala US invasions of iraq.

what they will need is an alibi. for example, Chinese claims to South Tibet( Aurnachal Pradesh)

If the chinese wish to be taken seriously as a great military power, then they should prove it.

Iraq a major country militarily :)))
 
Name me one successful war the Chinese Armed Forces have fought since world war 2 .
Nobody fears them, not even India. and what sort of titan is that?

Please name one where US has prevailed since WW2.
 
If they want to prove their ruthlessness perhaps. But even knowledge that you have military capability is a deterrent. Look at the cold war with Russia where Americans wouldn't want to take on Russia directly in the 80's or 90's, but would use proxies to test for weakness.

In comparison to USA, Chinese military capability is miniscule. To project power overseas you need a "bluewater navy" led by aircraft carrier task forces. USA has 11 super-carriers and are building 2 more.
China has --- 1. Yes just 1. That too a 20 year old ex- russian medium sized ship.
In fact the total tonnage of the US navy is more than that of the next 11 largest navies combined.

You really are comparing an elephant with a mouse here.
 
Military number isn’t the only factor. You need technology to go along with that as well. China has the number but is their technology as advanced as Russia from Asia??
 
In comparison to USA, Chinese military capability is miniscule. To project power overseas you need a "bluewater navy" led by aircraft carrier task forces. USA has 11 super-carriers and are building 2 more.
China has --- 1. Yes just 1. That too a 20 year old ex- russian medium sized ship.
In fact the total tonnage of the US navy is more than that of the next 11 largest navies combined.

You really are comparing an elephant with a mouse here.

I'm not really comparing anything, just reading the views from the OP, and one of those comes from Gary Roughead, a retired co-chair of a bipartisan review of the Trump administration’s defence strategy who is described in that article as a no armchair general, he is a "retired admiral, as former Chief of Naval Operations he held the top job in the U.S. Navy until 2011".

Of course US military machine is probably just making sure that there is no one on the horizon that might conceivably threaten their rightful lordship of their home territory Asia, that should only be expected.
 
Iraq a major country militarily :)))

Iraq had at that time in 1990. A strong Army. On paper.
What Iraq Did not have was air defenses, neither did they have a good airforce.
their army was utterly destroyed by air power.
 
China is a new kid on the block. To be a superpower like US, it will take decades provided US regressed in that period and that is not happening.
 
I'm not really comparing anything, just reading the views from the OP, and one of those comes from Gary Roughead, a retired co-chair of a bipartisan review of the Trump administration’s defence strategy who is described in that article as a no armchair general, he is a "retired admiral, as former Chief of Naval Operations he held the top job in the U.S. Navy until 2011".

Of course US military machine is probably just making sure that there is no one on the horizon that might conceivably threaten their rightful lordship of their home territory Asia, that should only be expected.

The retired admiral Roughead just happens to be on the board of directors of Northrop Grumman - a very large arms manufacturer which supplies lots of stuff to the US armed forces and no doubt hope to continue to sell lots more. It would be very much in their interest for someone of stature like an ex-admiral to raise (false) alarms with regard to Chinese capabilities threatening American dominance. It is of course quite ridiculous. The Pacific ocean is America's pond and will remain so during our lifetimes.

On the other hand Chinese naval expansion certainly threatens Japan, Korea, India. The Chinese navy is about the same size as Japan & India combined.
 

U.S. rejects China’s claim to Arunachal Pradesh, says it is a part of India​


The U.S. has rejected China’s “unilateral attempts” to claim over Arunachal Pradesh, weighing in on a spat between New Delhi and Beijing after Prime Minister Narendra Modi inaugurated a tunnel in the northeast Indian state.

It is the latest in an escalating dispute between neighboring India and China, which share a 3,500 kilometer border.

China, which refers to the territory as Zangnan, claims Arunachal Pradesh is part of southern Tibet. India rejects those claims, stating Arunachal Pradesh has always been a part of India.

On Wednesday, the U.S. State Department weighed in on the matter.

“The United States recognizes Arunachal Pradesh as Indian territory and we strongly oppose any unilateral attempts to advance territorial claims by incursions or encroachments, military or civilian, across the Line of Actual Control,” spokesperson Vedant Patel said.

The LAC is a demarcation that separates India-controlled territory from that controlled by China.

“I see this statement as a reflection of consistent U.S. efforts to fully align itself with India in its competition with China,” Michael Kugelman, director of the South Asia Institute at the Wilson Center told CNBC.

Kugelman pointed out that the U.S. typically refrains from commenting on some Indian border disputes, such as the one with Pakistan over Kashmir. But in this case, Washington is signaling its solidarity with New Delhi — “in the same way that it has made efforts, including through intelligence-sharing, to help India deter Chinese aggressions on its northern border.”

Earlier this month, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi inaugurated the “Sela Tunnel” — the world’s longest bi-lane tunnel built at an altitude above 13,000 feet, which is located in the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, triggering sharp responses from Chinese officials.

Border tensions between India and China have risen in recent years. In a major escalation in 2020, a clash between the two sides killed 20 Indian soldiers and four Chinese troops. Last year, China renamed 11 places in Arunachal Pradesh, a move strongly opposed by India.

Senior Colonel Zhang Xiaogang, deputy director general of the Information Office of China’s Ministry of National Defense said in a statement days after the road tunnel inauguration that “China never recognizes and strongly opposes India’s illegal establishment of the so-called ‘Arunachal Pradesh.’”

Last week, China’s defense ministry reiterated its claim over the northeastern state of Arunachal Pradesh.

India’s foreign ministry this week responded to Zhang’s comments, saying Arunachal Pradesh “was, is and will always be an integral and inalienable part of India.”

Randhir Jaiswal, India’s foreign ministry spokesperson said in an official statement that the Chinese Defense Ministry made “absurd claims” over the Indian State of Arunachal Pradesh and “repeating baseless arguments in this regard does not lend such claims any validity.”

On the U.S. standing up for India, Harsh V. Pant, vice president for studies and foreign policy at Observer Research Foundation, a New Delhi-based think tank, said: “It shows how far India-U.S. relations have come.

“Even when it comes to the matter, which has been very sensitive, such as the India China border dispute, the U.S. today is openly standing with India,” he told CNBC.

 

U.S. rejects China’s claim to Arunachal Pradesh, says it is a part of India​


The U.S. has rejected China’s “unilateral attempts” to claim over Arunachal Pradesh, weighing in on a spat between New Delhi and Beijing after Prime Minister Narendra Modi inaugurated a tunnel in the northeast Indian state.

It is the latest in an escalating dispute between neighboring India and China, which share a 3,500 kilometer border.

China, which refers to the territory as Zangnan, claims Arunachal Pradesh is part of southern Tibet. India rejects those claims, stating Arunachal Pradesh has always been a part of India.

On Wednesday, the U.S. State Department weighed in on the matter.

“The United States recognizes Arunachal Pradesh as Indian territory and we strongly oppose any unilateral attempts to advance territorial claims by incursions or encroachments, military or civilian, across the Line of Actual Control,” spokesperson Vedant Patel said.

The LAC is a demarcation that separates India-controlled territory from that controlled by China.

“I see this statement as a reflection of consistent U.S. efforts to fully align itself with India in its competition with China,” Michael Kugelman, director of the South Asia Institute at the Wilson Center told CNBC.

Kugelman pointed out that the U.S. typically refrains from commenting on some Indian border disputes, such as the one with Pakistan over Kashmir. But in this case, Washington is signaling its solidarity with New Delhi — “in the same way that it has made efforts, including through intelligence-sharing, to help India deter Chinese aggressions on its northern border.”

Earlier this month, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi inaugurated the “Sela Tunnel” — the world’s longest bi-lane tunnel built at an altitude above 13,000 feet, which is located in the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, triggering sharp responses from Chinese officials.

Border tensions between India and China have risen in recent years. In a major escalation in 2020, a clash between the two sides killed 20 Indian soldiers and four Chinese troops. Last year, China renamed 11 places in Arunachal Pradesh, a move strongly opposed by India.

Senior Colonel Zhang Xiaogang, deputy director general of the Information Office of China’s Ministry of National Defense said in a statement days after the road tunnel inauguration that “China never recognizes and strongly opposes India’s illegal establishment of the so-called ‘Arunachal Pradesh.’”

Last week, China’s defense ministry reiterated its claim over the northeastern state of Arunachal Pradesh.

India’s foreign ministry this week responded to Zhang’s comments, saying Arunachal Pradesh “was, is and will always be an integral and inalienable part of India.”

Randhir Jaiswal, India’s foreign ministry spokesperson said in an official statement that the Chinese Defense Ministry made “absurd claims” over the Indian State of Arunachal Pradesh and “repeating baseless arguments in this regard does not lend such claims any validity.”

On the U.S. standing up for India, Harsh V. Pant, vice president for studies and foreign policy at Observer Research Foundation, a New Delhi-based think tank, said: “It shows how far India-U.S. relations have come.

“Even when it comes to the matter, which has been very sensitive, such as the India China border dispute, the U.S. today is openly standing with India,” he told CNBC.


China firmly opposes U.S. interference in China-India boundary question​


China strongly deplores and firmly opposes U.S. interference in the China-India boundary question, Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Lin Jian said on Thursday.

Lin's remarks came after the U.S. State Department spokesperson said that the United States recognizes the so-called "Arunachal Pradesh", which is China's Zangnan, as Indian territory.

"The China-India boundary has never been delimited," said Lin at a regular press briefing, adding that Zangnan is China's territory, a basic fact that is undeniable.

Lin said the China-India boundary question is a matter between the two countries and has nothing to do with the U.S. side.

"It is known to all that the United States has consistently spared no efforts to provoke and take advantage of other countries' conflicts to serve its selfish geopolitical interests," said Lin.

 
People in Arunachal Pradesh look Chinese.

If India didn't have a claim there, I would've thought it was a Chinese region.

I think it should go to China because those people seem culturally closer to Chinese people.
 

U.S. rejects China’s claim to Arunachal Pradesh, says it is a part of India​


The U.S. has rejected China’s “unilateral attempts” to claim over Arunachal Pradesh, weighing in on a spat between New Delhi and Beijing after Prime Minister Narendra Modi inaugurated a tunnel in the northeast Indian state.

It is the latest in an escalating dispute between neighboring India and China, which share a 3,500 kilometer border.

China, which refers to the territory as Zangnan, claims Arunachal Pradesh is part of southern Tibet. India rejects those claims, stating Arunachal Pradesh has always been a part of India.

On Wednesday, the U.S. State Department weighed in on the matter.

“The United States recognizes Arunachal Pradesh as Indian territory and we strongly oppose any unilateral attempts to advance territorial claims by incursions or encroachments, military or civilian, across the Line of Actual Control,” spokesperson Vedant Patel said.

The LAC is a demarcation that separates India-controlled territory from that controlled by China.

“I see this statement as a reflection of consistent U.S. efforts to fully align itself with India in its competition with China,” Michael Kugelman, director of the South Asia Institute at the Wilson Center told CNBC.

Kugelman pointed out that the U.S. typically refrains from commenting on some Indian border disputes, such as the one with Pakistan over Kashmir. But in this case, Washington is signaling its solidarity with New Delhi — “in the same way that it has made efforts, including through intelligence-sharing, to help India deter Chinese aggressions on its northern border.”

Earlier this month, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi inaugurated the “Sela Tunnel” — the world’s longest bi-lane tunnel built at an altitude above 13,000 feet, which is located in the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, triggering sharp responses from Chinese officials.

Border tensions between India and China have risen in recent years. In a major escalation in 2020, a clash between the two sides killed 20 Indian soldiers and four Chinese troops. Last year, China renamed 11 places in Arunachal Pradesh, a move strongly opposed by India.

Senior Colonel Zhang Xiaogang, deputy director general of the Information Office of China’s Ministry of National Defense said in a statement days after the road tunnel inauguration that “China never recognizes and strongly opposes India’s illegal establishment of the so-called ‘Arunachal Pradesh.’”

Last week, China’s defense ministry reiterated its claim over the northeastern state of Arunachal Pradesh.

India’s foreign ministry this week responded to Zhang’s comments, saying Arunachal Pradesh “was, is and will always be an integral and inalienable part of India.”

Randhir Jaiswal, India’s foreign ministry spokesperson said in an official statement that the Chinese Defense Ministry made “absurd claims” over the Indian State of Arunachal Pradesh and “repeating baseless arguments in this regard does not lend such claims any validity.”

On the U.S. standing up for India, Harsh V. Pant, vice president for studies and foreign policy at Observer Research Foundation, a New Delhi-based think tank, said: “It shows how far India-U.S. relations have come.

“Even when it comes to the matter, which has been very sensitive, such as the India China border dispute, the U.S. today is openly standing with India,” he told CNBC.

Lol China. They have issues with almost all their neighbours, except the ones they have purchased ofcourse 😉
 
People in Arunachal Pradesh look Chinese.

If India didn't have a claim there, I would've thought it was a Chinese region.

I think it should go to China because those people seem culturally closer to Chinese people.

What do you know about Arunachal Pradesh's culture?
 
Anyway, USA should stay away from this. They interfere everywhere and make things messy.
 
They look Chinese.

If China want to, they can take it 100% as they have a superior military than India. But, probably China will not attempt it (yet).

What do you mean by look Chinese?

If China could take it militarily they would have. They can't.

Do read a few things about which country has the largest and the best trained Mountain force.
 
People in Arunachal Pradesh look Chinese.

If India didn't have a claim there, I would've thought it was a Chinese region.

I think it should go to China because those people seem culturally closer to Chinese people.
Bangladesh is culturally Indian.
 
What do you mean by look Chinese?

If China could take it militarily they would have. They can't.

Do read a few things about which country has the largest and the best trained Mountain force.
Lol Be ready to be called a ”heckler”
 
People of Arunachal Pradesh are so patriotic in the North East eventhough India doesn’t give them a fair deal at times but thank god things are changing , if it was upto the clowns before they would not even make a road in fear of China.
 
They look Chinese.

If China want to, they can take it 100% as they have a superior military than India. But, probably China will not attempt it (yet).
Not that this is a concern of Pakistanis but there are Pakistanis who look more central Asian, those who look white, those who look Iranian and those who look Indian. I would be furious if someone says the Pakistanis who look central Asian or white or Iranian should secede from Pakistan and join those countries.

I forget - you are not Pakistani though per your claim, or are you?
 
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Not that this is a concern of Pakistanis but there are Pakistanis who look more central Asian, those who look white, those who look Iranian and those who look Indian. I would be furious if someone says the Pakistanis who look central Asian or white or Iranian should secede from Pakistan and join those countries.

I forget - you are not Pakistani though per your claim, or are you?

I am a Bangladeshi dude living in Canada.

Not a Pakistani. Nope.

Arunachal just felt Chinese to me. That's all.
 
I would be furious if someone says the Pakistanis who look central Asian or white or Iranian should secede from Pakistan and join those countries.

I didn't mean it like that.

Arunachal is a disputed territory. No? China has a claim and calls it by some other name.

Pakistani borders are established.

So, not a valid comparison.
 
I didn't mean it like that.

Arunachal is a disputed territory. No? China has a claim and calls it by some other name.

Pakistani borders are established.

So, not a valid comparison.
How is it disputed ? Just because China says it ?...

I can go to my next door neighbour and tell them: You built a fence on my land without any validity, doesn't mean it's disputed, it needs to be proven in a court...
 
Lol China. They have issues with almost all their neighbours, except the ones they have purchased ofcourse 😉
Which is why they won't be a superpower, you need Neighbours for that to happen.

All of china's friends hate them, compare that to the american relationship with Canada.

If russia ever decides to invade canada (which they won"t), america will be out there defending canada
 
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People in Arunachal Pradesh look Chinese.

If India didn't have a claim there, I would've thought it was a Chinese region.

I think it should go to China because those people seem culturally closer to Chinese people.
People in Bangladesh look Indian, so what

Arunachal Pradesh is 60% hindu and christian
 
I didn't mean it like that.

Arunachal is a disputed territory. No? China has a claim and calls it by some other name.

Pakistani borders are established.

So, not a valid comparison.

Arunachal isn't disputed. All countries recognise Arunachal as Indian territory except China.

But then the Chinese are infamous for taking out a map out of nowhere, which is god knows from when and try to claim territory based on those maps.

Established?
 
Lol Wiki.

There needs to be a decision given by say for example the International court, UN etc...

Just because China says one thing that's not how rest of the world works.

:cobra

China claims most of South China sea. May be they should give them that as per sweep shot.
 
I didn't mean it like that.

Arunachal is a disputed territory. No? China has a claim and calls it by some other name.

Pakistani borders are established.

So, not a valid comparison.
Absolutely valid comparison because one can claim the Pak-Afghan border is also disputed since Afghanistan does not recognize Durand line. So would I be ok if all Pashtuns in Pakistan who "look like Pashtuns in Afghanistan) choose to join Afghanistan because them seceding and going with their "look alike brethren" is logical? I doubt if any Pakistani would be ok with that.
 
Absolutely valid comparison because one can claim the Pak-Afghan border is also disputed since Afghanistan does not recognize Durand line. So would I be ok if all Pashtuns in Pakistan who "look like Pashtuns in Afghanistan) choose to join Afghanistan because them seceding and going with their "look alike brethren" is logical? I doubt if any Pakistani would be ok with that.
I think it's fair to say Sweep Shot bro doesn't usually know what he is talking about....
 

Philippines soldiers fought off Chinese coast guard 'with bare hands'​


Philippines soldiers used their "bare hands" to fight off Chinese coast guard personnel armed with swords, spears and knives in the disputed South China Sea, the country's top military commander has said.

General Romeo Brawner accused Chinese vessels of ramming Philippine boats, then boarding them and seizing weapons.

One Filipino soldier lost a thumb when his vessel was rammed, the general said. China denied its personnel were to blame, saying they had been "restrained".

There have been a string of dangerous encounters as the two sides seek to enforce their claims on disputed reefs and outcrops - this appears to be an escalation.

The skirmish happened as the Philippine navy and coast guard were delivering supplies to Filipino troops stationed in the Second Thomas Shoal.

Gen Brawner said soldiers reported seeing the Chinese coast guard armed with knives, spears and bolos, Filipino for sword. He said it's the first time Filipino troops had seen the Chinese using this type of weapon in the area.

"We saw in the video how the Chinese even threatened our personnel by pointing their knives at our personnel," Gen Brawner said.

Chinese personnel also seized a number of guns and destroyed items - including motors - and punctured inflatable vessels.
The incident, he added, amounted to "piracy".

"They have no right or legal authority to hijack our operations and destroy Philippine vessels operating within our exclusive economic zone," Gen Brawner told reporters.

But Beijing dismissed the allegations, saying its personnel were aiming to block an "illegal transportation" of supplies. "No direct measures" were taken against the Filipino soldiers, foreign ministry spokesman Lin Jian told reporters in Beijing.

"Law enforcement measures taken by the China Coast Guard at the site were professional and restrained," he added.

In an earlier statement, the Chinese coast guard said the Philippines was "entirely responsible" for the incident, as troops “ignored China’s repeated solemn warnings... and dangerously approached a Chinese vessel in normal navigation in an unprofessional manner, resulting in a collision”.

China has routinely attempted to block re-supply missions to the shoal. Filipino officials say the Chinese employ "dangerous manoeuvres" such as shadowing, blocking, firing water cannons and shining lasers to temporarily blind Filipino crews.

Monday's confrontation took part in an area at the heart of the sea encounters: the Filipino outpost in Second Thomas Shoal, where the country grounded a decrepit navy ship to enforce its claim.

A handful of soldiers are stationed there and require regular rations.

Analysts say choking the flow of supplies to the outpost, which could lead to its collapse into the sea, would allow Beijing to take full control of the area.

Observers fear any escalation in the South China Sea could spark a conflict between China and the US as it is treaty-bound to come to the Philippines' defence, should it come under attack.

Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos warned security forum in Singapore last month that if a Filipino died as a result of China’s wilful actions, Manila would consider it as close to “an act of war” and would respond accordingly.

But Gen Brawner said the Philippines military did not want to spark a war.

"Our objective is that while we want to bring supplies to our troops following international law, our objective is to prevent war," he said.

 

Police hunt mayor accused of being Chinese spy​


A small town mayor in the Philippines who has been accused of being a Chinese spy, has gone into hiding, officials said.

Police could not carry out a warrant for the arrest of Alice Guo over the weekend as she was not at any of her known addresses.

Scam centres were uncovered in Ms Guo's town of Bamban in March, concealed in online casinos that cater to mainland Chinese.

Her story has played out like a TV drama, as she had also been questioned on her Chinese parentage and suspicions that she was working as an "asset" or spy for Beijing.

Ms Guo's case has gripped the nation as Manila and Beijing continue to spar over reefs and outcrops in the South China Sea.

The Senate ordered the arrest of Ms Guo and some members of her family last Friday after she twice snubbed summons to appear in hearings on the scam centres.

"Show yourselves. Hiding will not erase the truth," Sen. Risa Hontiveros, who is leading parliament's investigation on Ms Guo, said in a statement.

Ms Guo has denied wrongdoing. She claims her Chinese father and Filipina mother raised her on their pig farm.

But Sen. Sherwin Gatchalian, who is part of the investigation, claims Ms Guo is a Chinese national whose real name is Guo Hua Ping, based on immigration records.

"She is hiding to evade arrest," Mr Gatchalian told local radio. "Our tracker teams will continue looking for her."

On the day the arrest warrant was signed, Ms Guo posted a statement on Facebook, addressing her constituents and alluding to the fact that she would not be around.

"Sorry for not being physically present with each one of you. I miss you all," she said, adding her absence would be "temporary".

In the post, she added that she did not regret joining politics, even if it hurt her so much that she "almost lost myself".
"I am a Filipino with a big heart for Bamban. I love the Philippines very much," she said.

Ms Guo's lawyer, Nicole Jamilla, told local television that her client would "definitely" cooperate with official investigations.

Aside from the investigation by the Senate, Ms Guo is the subject of a separate anti-graft probe that has led to her suspension.

The scam centres in Bamban have underscored how online casinos or Pogos (Philippine Online Gaming Operations) have been used as cover for text scams, human trafficking and other criminal activities.

Crime rings hiding beneath Pogos have even gone to the extent of building hospitals that provide cosmetic surgery to fugitives who want new faces.

Pogos flourished during the tenure of Rodrigo Duterte, whose presidency, which ended in 2022, was marked by close ties to China.

But under current president Ferdinand Marcos, Pogos have come under close scrutiny.

If proven that she is a Chinese citizen, Ms Guo would be not be eligible to serve as mayor. Only Filipino citizens are allowed to hold elective office.

But this does not matter to her constituents who benefit form her social outreach programs, that are widely documented on her social media pages.

Ms Guo "brought change" to Bamban, and its people are thankful, resident Erica Miclat told ANC television.

 
All was going well for China until Modiji arrived and turned the tables through his astute diplomacy.
 

Quad foreign ministers decry dangerous South China Sea actions​


Foreign ministers from Australia, India, Japan and the United States said on Monday they were seriously concerned about intimidating and dangerous maneuvers in the South China Sea and pledged to bolster maritime security in the region.

The joint statement came after talks between the so-called ‘Quad’ countries in Tokyo, attended by Australia’s Penny Wong, India’s Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, Japan’s Yoko Kamikawa and Antony Blinken from the US.

In security talks between the US and Japan on Sunday, the two allies labelled China the “greatest strategic challenge” facing the region.

“We are seriously concerned about the situation in the East and South China Seas and reiterate our strong opposition to any unilateral actions that seek to change the status quo by force or coercion,” the ministers said in the statement, which did not directly mention China.

They also expressed serious concern about the militarization of disputed features and coercive and intimidating maneuvers in the South China Sea, including dangerous use of coast guard and maritime militia vessels.

Chinese vessels have repeatedly clashed with Philippine ships seeking to resupply its troops on the disputed Second Thomas Shoal in recent months, although the two countries in July reached a provisional agreement that aims to ease tensions.

The Quad group said they were working on a series of initiatives to maintain “the free and open maritime order” including helping partners improve domain awareness via satellite data, training and capacity building. They also announced a plan to set up a new maritime legal dialogue.

“We are charting a course for a more secure and open Indo-Pacific and Indian Ocean region by bolstering maritime security,” Blinken said in remarks to reporters after the meeting.

“In practical terms what does this mean? It means strengthening the capacity of partners across the region to know what’s happening in their own waters,” he added.

He said the US would continue to work with its partners to ensure freedom of navigation and the unimpeded flow of lawful maritime commerce.

The US announced plans on Sunday for a major revamp of its military command in Japan. It was among several measures announced by the allies to address what they said was an “evolving security environment,” noting various threats from China including its muscular maritime activities.

“Uncertainty surrounding the international order as well as the international situation has been increasing with Russia continuing its aggression in Ukraine, attempts to unilaterally change the status quo by force in the East China Sea and South China Sea, and the launch of ballistic missiles by North Korea,” Japan’s Kamikawa said after the talks.

The Quad ministers also pledged to advance cooperation in cybersecurity to protect supply chains and critical infrastructure, including undersea cables.

After leaving Tokyo, Blinken and Austin will hold security talks with another Asian ally, the Philippines, as the Biden administration seeks to counter an increasingly bold China.

 
China is a super power and USAs only threat. People don't realize how powerful China is now. India resisting China is a miracle honestly. The only option for India with China is diplomacy and maintaining peaceful relations. A limited scope war or skirmish is to no one's benefit in the SC.
 
China is a super power and USAs only threat. People don't realize how powerful China is now. India resisting China is a miracle honestly. The only option for India with China is diplomacy and maintaining peaceful relations. A limited scope war or skirmish is to no one's benefit in the SC.
There is no miracle in this, China wants no conflict with India. There hasn't been any large scale conflicts aside from the usual border disputes over some kms of lands. For China, they are preparing for their main mission - Capture of Taiwan. The Self Actualisation of the PRC and the last nail in coffin of the Centuries of Humiliation. The issues with India are at best a sidebar to the central point. They want to maintain their economy at its prime, the equipments and soldiers polished and ready for battle. The last thing they want is a land war in Asia.
 
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