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How will cricket fans remember India’s ICC Champions Trophy 2025 win: unfair advantage or well-deserved victory?

How will cricket fans remember India’s ICC Champions Trophy 2025 win?


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History won't care about where india played to win the cup. Will only look into the trophy cabinet.
 
1. No it wasn't played on the same pitch. Different wickets were used for different games and they all behaved differently. Ban game had seam movement..Pak and NZ games had turn and grip... Australia game was flat batting wicket etc etc.

2. It is not the first time that a tournament was played in two varying conditions. 2023 WC in India was played on all kinds of surfaces and it's upto the teams to select a squad that will provide them players for all conditions.

3. All teams were aware that the India games will be played in Dubai a good two months before the start of the tournament and its not like it came as a sudden surprise to them.

4. These all are loser excuses made by loser fans whose team(s) got mauled by India and even worse....ended up losing the only title you held to India.

Harsh words but nothing but facts.

You dont get it .... this is the current state of mind for the Pakistani posters on this forum that you are dealing with ... you will not be able to get thru no matter how hard you try ( but its mucho fun nevertheless lol)


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I feel for @sweep_shot , he first had ODI has most important and Icc T20 as second most important, than he mad ICC CT as more important than ICC T20 Wc.

If India wins others he will probably say Cricket doesn’t matter and only hockey does
But we are good in hockey too
 
I have third option. Unfair disadvantage of not being able to bat on batting tracks in Pakistan to win more comprehensively. These pitches bridged the gap between India and poor teams.
The bowling advantage you got far outweighs that. Nice try though
 
Never ever will we see a team playing a whole tournament upto the final from hotel to stadium.

And the pitches remained almost the same throughout the tournament atleast for one stadium.
 
Never ever will we see a team playing a whole tournament upto the final from hotel to stadium.

And the pitches remained almost the same throughout the tournament atleast for one stadium.

we will never see a Home team play one single match at home in their own tournament and get eliminated .... priceless. Thats a record thats hard to beat .... lol
 
Never ever will we see a team playing a whole tournament upto the final from hotel to stadium.

And the pitches remained almost the same throughout the tournament atleast for one stadium.
Never say never. More Asia cups are coming due and this may well be a regular feature, so Pak fans need to get used to it !:D

On a serious note, if you want to give excuses and dont improve your team's performance , then teams will never progress.
 
we will never see a Home team play one single match at home in their own tournament and get eliminated .... priceless. Thats a record thats hard to beat .... lol
Yep very hard...and that was an utter comical episode. Just shows that PCT was playing in an indian tournament labelled as Pakistan one.
 
So sooking about KMs travelled by a team during a tournament is the new fad in the town.

No more ot Delhi bellies, pollution, poor hotels, dustbowls, biased umpires, eh?
 
Never ever will we see a team playing a whole tournament upto the final from hotel to stadium.

And the pitches remained almost the same throughout the tournament atleast for one stadium.

This type of stupidity is only possible in cricket I guess. I am not aware of any other sport where this happens.

Then again, other sports are not run by petty people from a particular country.

:inti
 
I'm not defending PCB. PCB is a rubbish board with no self-respect.

However, let's not pretend that BCCI doesn't do fixture fixing. They don't need to do that because they will win anyways but they still do. Forget this Champions Trophy, why was the semi-final pre-fixed in Guyana in the World Cup?

What is fixture fixing?

PCBs original schedule had Indian team in Lahore. They weren't travelling outside Lahore.

The hybrid model had them based in Dubai, they didn't travel outside Dubai.

What difference does it make?

India matches bring huge revenues that's why the India semi final was pre fixed in Guyana if India reached semis.

Did you think why India had to play group games in USA and then travel to WI for next stage? All other major teams that qualified for the next stage were in WI only.
 
To be frank this CT will not be remembered long.

The most memorable ICC tourneys are when there is an upset win in the knockouts stage and the odds favourite at beginning of tourney does not win it. Or at very least the tourney plays out such that the actual gap between the top 2-3 teams ends up on ground being minimal with close swing matches at end even if odds on favourite ends up winning.

1979, 2003, 2007 WC and 2009, 2025 CT are all such examples. Yes the best team won and there was big gulf between #1 and #2 (and some cases also #2 and #3 as well).

Every memorable ICC tourney is memorable because of a story. And if the story is the strong team stronged really well, that is boring and eventually not so memorable.

1983, 1987, 1992, 1996 all were great feel good stories about unfancied teams flipping the script on favourites and defying odds. They are very memorable for each country's fans as their teams first truimphs as well. Each truimph is worth its own Netflix documentary.

1999 had 3 great parallel stories of Aus, Pak and SA teams and there was little between the 3 teams quality wise who put on great contests in 3 of the 4 matches they contended in. Finally the narrative of Aus' phoenix rise became the story of 99.

2003 and 2007 had some minor underdog story of very good Indian and SL team respectively building a strong generation but it got dwarfed by the big narrative of the Aussie conquering dynasty. The knockout matches were also unmemorable in these tourneys.

2011 was memorable for the first home team to win and this became the narrative remembered. Forgotten in another SA choke was the great story where SA built a 3 spinner team tailor made to beat Asian conditions. They were man to man the best team of tournament. Some knockout games were competitive (Ind vs Aus/Pak/SL and SA-NZ) and made for good viewing

2015 had the great competing stories of Baz's making NZ great again vs ABd's SA dynasty chasing their promised land. Eventually both these stories were doused in Aus's triumph. This was a very competitive WC with 4 teams all at similiar levels and had one amazing knockout game.

2019 became about Eng and Capt Morgan's boyhood dream. The top 3 teams Eng, Ind and NZ were at similiar levels. The tourney had the greatest final ever and the SF was also a slow burn thriller.

2023 WC is memorable for #3 team Aus flipping the script on SA and India who were both the better teams man to man. There was a beautiful mini story about Afg's rise and it would have been nice if they had made semis.

In CTs, 1998 (SA) , 2000 (NZ) are small tournaments that hold special place for the winning team's fans as it is still their only ODI silverware.

2004 CT was a weird and fun tourney with an underrated thriller final between Eng and WI.

2006 CT was won by best team Aus but had a forgotten story of a very good WI team that had built a small white ball revival and had a great run until the final.

2009 CT was wholly unmemorable. Same like 2025 the best team was far far better than rest.

2013 CT was unmemorable but had a weird T20 final which became an unexpected close game.

2017 CT had a great underdog story. Pak beat the 2 favourite teams thumpingly in semis and finals with a young team.
 
We didn't even need Varun when we can win without him .

Asia cup is next destination . Team bana lo ni to fir se humiliate karnege Dubai Main wo bhi multiple time

Or Fit rakhna Saim, Fakhar jo bhi hai pakistan ke best unko ni to excuse doge fir se.
:kp
Now everyone knows why Rohit XI didn't want to play in Pakistan in CT 2025.


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We didn't even need Varun when we can win without him .

Asia cup is next destination . Team bana lo ni to fir se humiliate karnege Dubai Main wo bhi multiple time

Or Fit rakhna Saim, Fakhar jo bhi hai pakistan ke best unko ni to excuse doge fir se.
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Lol you didn't even need Bumrah...You have Jay Shah
 
Pak had 152-0boozled India in Dubai too....When you get to prepare the pitch then obviously it is easier to perform....but alas November 19
Hahah. I was 100% damn sure you just few minutes away from Bringing This ,You never ever disappointed me bro. Pakistan fans are still living in 2021 and we are in the 2025 where we already won back to back ICC trophy 🏆 🏆 💪

:kp
 
They had only one spin specialist in squad, so where would have fetched the other on??
Why didn't they pick another specialist spinner in the squad? They decided to accommodate guys like Faheem and you know the reason :ns still defending the incompetence of your management and board
 
Why didn't they pick another specialist spinner in the squad? They decided to accommodate guys like Faheem and you know the reason :ns still defending the incompetence of your management and board
Boring 🥱🥱.... everybody knew it now answer my question plainly...why did they select 4 spinners even without stepping into Dubai...
 
Boring 🥱🥱.... everybody knew it now answer my question plainly...why did they select 4 spinners even without stepping into Dubai...
Again shifting goalpost. Instead of introspection you are coping up with excuses to discredit others. Sore loser mentality. No wonder Pakistan has become a laughing stock.
 
You got owned there....but if you have comprehension issues then can't help....still the same question....no answer??
You brought up an IPL match to discredit Varun. I made you aware of his performance on the same ground in an international match. And then you started shifting goalpost instead of acknowledging me for making you learn something new.
 
You brought up an IPL match to discredit Varun. I made you aware of his performance on the same ground in an international match. And then you started shifting goalpost instead of acknowledging me for making you learn something new.
Does pitch matter or not? Don't debate like an amateur as you will be in trouble then
 
"nOt iN oCeAniA


What on earth is that comeback lmao...
Lol...go to my house of cards thread that triggered you in the first place....your team can't even do this feat against A listers...can read the more details there.
 
Lol...go to my house of cards thread that triggered you in the first place....your team can't even do this feat against A listers...can read the more details there.

Lmao..weren't you the one who created an entire thread after getting hurt by just a single post of mine that showed you your place?

And I'm the one who triggered
 
I can't help but think that Pak psyche might be permanently wrecked from the CT25 debacle.

They sure as hell are not going to get to host another ICC event.

RizBar is going to strike back with vengeance .

🍿
 
Lol...you got triggered and just ran away from answering my queries... remember 3-1 to 2-2.... 🤣
Lmao..weren't you the one who created an entire thread after getting hurt by just a single post of mine that showed you your place?

And I'm the one who triggered
 
Lol...you got triggered and just ran away from answering my queries... remember 3-1 to 2-2.... 🤣

You are a weak hearted individual who can't accept bitter facts and only likes moaning or giving lame excuses whenever your delusions get buried.

It's still 3-1. :shhh
 
I can't help but think that Pak psyche might be permanently wrecked from the CT25 debacle.

They sure as hell are not going to get to host another ICC event.

RizBar is going to strike back with vengeance .

🍿

Asia cup 2023 was the first hammering that took the gas out of their souls.

CT 2025 was just a stomping
 
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You are a weak hearted individual who can't accept bitter facts and only likes moaning or giving lame excuses whenever your delusions get buried.

It's still 3-1. :shhh
O....so these are IPL events :starc:virat1

 
Now everyone knows why Rohit XI didn't want to play in Pakistan in CT 2025.


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Yeah bcos Pak getting hammered in their home ground if front of their home crowd would be traumatizing. This is how the scorecard would look like with KKR as Pak and RCB as Ind. So Rohit XI did PCT a favor and saved them some blushes. Atleast Pak now has an "excuse" . Thank you Rohit and Co ! :ROFLMAO:
 
Yeah bcos Pak getting hammered in their home ground if front of their home crowd would be traumatizing. This is how the scorecard would look like with KKR as Pak and RCB as Ind. So Rohit XI did PCT a favor and saved them some blushes. Atleast Pak now has an "excuse" . Thank you Rohit and Co ! :ROFLMAO:
BCCI made the event tainted itself....if you had really won in Pakistan it would have been a big deal.
 
BCCI made the event tainted itself....if you had really won in Pakistan it would have been a big deal.
Nothing tainted. Weak teams will always give excuses.. their coping mechanism. They are poor and will offer excuses. Will give an example. In the recent WPL , MI women played 4 T20 games in 6 days and won the event. Delhi Capitals women had a 5 day rest before the final and all the other teams had more than 3 days gap between each game. Well, the MI women didnt complain and won the event too as a champion team. Champion good teams win no matter what or where and dont give excuses unlike poor teams which the PCT was in CT. So, how could MI women win by playing 4 games in 6 days ??
 
Nothing tainted. Weak teams will always give excuses.. their coping mechanism. They are poor and will offer excuses. Will give an example. In the recent WPL , MI women played 4 T20 games in 6 days and won the event. Delhi Capitals women had a 5 day rest before the final and all the other teams had more than 3 days gap between each game. Well, the MI women didnt complain and won the event too as a champion team. Champion good teams win no matter what or where and dont give excuses unlike poor teams which the PCT was in CT. So, how could MI women win by playing 4 games in 6 days ??
Did one of them played all of their matches in a single stadium as compared to others?

Check the OP too, the guys are not Pakistanis
 
Did one of them played all of their matches in a single stadium as compared to others?

Check the OP too, the guys are not Pakistanis
Similar analogy. If Pak had played 4 games in 6 days and lost the final to Ind, you would have a different statement. These are just excuses. Another example. We play league cricket and from a smaller town and we travel to Dallas or Houston for weekend games. And play 3 T20 games in 2 days. Do we complain ? No. That is sports for you. Once on the field, it is a 2 way shootout, Everything else goes out the window. And teams who have similar thinking like yours, will always be a mediocre team, keep giving excuses and will never improve. Thats just the essence of sports.
 
Similar analogy. If Pak had played 4 games in 6 days and lost the final to Ind, you would have a different statement. These are just excuses. Another example. We play league cricket and from a smaller town and we travel to Dallas or Houston for weekend games. And play 3 T20 games in 2 days. Do we complain ? No. That is sports for you. Once on the field, it is a 2 way shootout, Everything else goes out the window. And teams who have similar thinking like yours, will always be a mediocre team, keep giving excuses and will never improve. Thats just the essence of sports.
Keep on basking in your team's glory...I can't say anything else then. The whole world except the Indians and their favorite analysts have raised this issue but anyway a win is indeed a win
 
Keep on basking in your team's glory...I can't say anything else then. The whole world except the Indians and their favorite analysts have raised this issue but anyway a win is indeed a win
Again any response to how MI women could play 4 games in 6 days and win the event?? Basically 4 knock out games. Any response tk this? Isn't it draining to play 4 games in 6 days??

Good teams will always find a way to win period. Mediocre losing teams will always give excuses and will never improve. If thats the way PCT wants to go about their business- so be it then. No wonder pak has and will continue to be a mediocre team with attitudes like these.
 
Keep on basking in your team's glory...I can't say anything else then. The whole world except the Indians and their favorite analysts have raised this issue but anyway a win is indeed a win
And by the way this would apply to Ind team as well. In 2019 WC against England- kohli complained that the boundaries were shorter to assist eng. Well guess what- its the "same" for both teams - so there were no takers for his "complaints ". Similar analogy here
 
And by the way this would apply to Ind team as well. In 2019 WC against England- kohli complained that the boundaries were shorter to assist eng. Well guess what- its the "same" for both teams - so there were no takers for his "complaints ". Similar analogy here
Yep in 2019 many things favored England.
 
Yep in 2019 many things favored England.
You still have to play well to win
Eng lost 3 games on the trot and had a must win game against Ind and the remaining. They won all, knocked Aus out in SF and then won final. So yeah Eng deserved to win because they played well.
 
You still have to play well to win
Eng lost 3 games on the trot and had a must win game against Ind and the remaining. They won all, knocked Aus out in SF and then won final. So yeah Eng deserved to win because they played well.
Yep they deserved to win all, the only controversy that persists is the boundary count and stokes incident.
 
Did one of them played all of their matches in a single stadium as compared to others?

Check the OP too, the guys are not Pakistanis
India was suppose to play all its matches in Lahore had they agreed to travel Pakistan. Would you have given same excuse then?
 
Were the rules crafted before or after the game?? Did nz not know the rule?
Also NZ ckoked - they dropped catches misfielded - so they have no excuse. Eng was 89 for 4. Game should have been buries by NZ but no. Even in the SF they almost choked against Ind after having ind at 17-4 and 90-5 and could probably even have lost if dhoni was not run out. NZ choked big time and Eng delivered when the heat was really on.
Yep they deserved to win all, the only controversy that persists is the boundary count and stokes incident.
 
India was suppose to play all its matches in Lahore had they agreed to travel Pakistan. Would you have given same excuse then?
Pak lost tri series to NZ at home beforr and lost home game against NZ. So much for unfair home advantage. You have to play well to win anywhere period. And champion teams don't give excuses
 
Throughly deserved

Best team in LoI by far since 2022
3 years straight best team in LoI

No one comes close

Only time Aus could even win was when India missed 2 key players

They got destroyed as soon as key players came back

pak of 97 to 2000 team vs this team wouldn’t be a close contest.

This team would make them cry in both formats I feel.

Respect to Wasim though. Only true great from Pakistan who has a crazy win record vs india

34 wins vs 13 for india

But then 20 were in u.a.e
 
It was well deserved victory. India has been unbeaten in 2 tournaments. That is not a fluke. You gotta play well to beat the best teams non-stop.
 
I will remember it for PCB and Pakistanis shown there place in World Cricket.

Being shown their place looks more like WC final when Aussies crushed many Indian dreams. As for CT, India would have still made the semis easy or final even if they were playing in Pakistan, and would have beaten Pakistan considering how lousy Pak has been in ODIs so we weren't expecting much anyways, so shown their place barely qualifies.

Playing entire tournament on the same ground is a joke, and BCCI having it their way makes a mockery of the game, but that's the sad state of cricket when it's ruled by corrupt mafia. PCB is to equally blame but atleast they got what they wanted as Pakistan won't be traveling to India in the future and will be playing their games at neutral venues
 
PCB is to equally blame but atleast they got what they wanted as Pakistan won't be traveling to India in the future and will be playing their games at neutral venues

Why are you still crying if you guys got what you wanted?

It was a mutual agreement by ICC and PCB. You guys sound like crybabies when you moan about it now just because the team you hate has won the title.
 
O....so these are IPL events :starc:virat1


By this dumb logic..

India knocked Pakistan out in

1. 2014 T20 world cup
2. 2016 T20 World Cup
3. 2019 ODI world cups
4. 2024 T20 world cup
5. 2025 Champions Trophy


8-3 in India's favour :shhh


You need to stop embarassing yourselves.
 
Being shown their place looks more like WC final when Aussies crushed many Indian dreams. As for CT, India would have still made the semis easy or final even if they were playing in Pakistan, and would have beaten Pakistan considering how lousy Pak has been in ODIs so we weren't expecting much anyways, so shown their place barely qualifies.

Playing entire tournament on the same ground is a joke, and BCCI having it their way makes a mockery of the game, but that's the sad state of cricket when it's ruled by corrupt mafia. PCB is to equally blame but atleast they got what they wanted as Pakistan won't be traveling to India in the future and will be playing their games at neutral venues
India has won WCs in India as well as knocked Aus out of CWCs, CTs, T20 WCs etc. India has also defeated Aus in Aus in tests multiple times including breaking their Gabba streak.

Pakistanis coping by using Australia as an excuse just seems lame and a proof of their impotence.

Pakistanis were cucked by having to travel to another country to play India in a stadium filled with Indian fans, got kicked out in 4 days, saw the final being taken away (no final in 35+ years) and then had to watch India win the title.

India is anyways hosting future tournaments (2026, 2029, 2031) while after this fiasco Pakistan will not get any tournaments.

Pakistan were similarly humiliated in the Asia Cup too and when the World Cup came about they quietly came to India with their tails tucked between their legs which is what they will do in the future.
 
By this dumb logic..

India knocked Pakistan out in

1. 2014 T20 world cup
2. 2016 T20 World Cup
3. 2019 ODI world cups
4. 2024 T20 world cup
5. 2025 Champions Trophy


8-3 in India's favour :shhh


You need to stop embarassing yourselves.
2003
2023
 
Being shown their place looks more like WC final when Aussies crushed many Indian dreams. As for CT, India would have still made the semis easy or final even if they were playing in Pakistan, and would have beaten Pakistan considering how lousy Pak has been in ODIs so we weren't expecting much anyways, so shown their place barely qualifies.

Playing entire tournament on the same ground is a joke, and BCCI having it their way makes a mockery of the game, but that's the sad state of cricket when it's ruled by corrupt mafia. PCB is to equally blame but atleast they got what they wanted as Pakistan won't be traveling to India in the future and will be playing their games at neutral venues
We won two back to back ICC events after that. Rest of your argument is a complete joke because it was PCB begging BCCI to play the tournament because.. off course Pakistanis cannot earn anything themselves and need handouts from BCCI.
Travelling, we don't want your players or anyone to step foot in Pakistan for like ever.. so don't come next time. Moonh utha ke chale aate hain har bar.
 
We won two back to back ICC events after that. Rest of your argument is a complete joke because it was PCB begging BCCI to play the tournament because.. off course Pakistanis cannot earn anything themselves and need handouts from BCCI.
Travelling, we don't want your players or anyone to step foot in Pakistan for like ever.. so don't come next time. Moonh utha ke chale aate hain har bar.
Mooh utha ke just like we keep seeing you lot here on PP being obsessed and crying over Pakistan all the time? And Mooh utha ke you keep showing up to play against Pakistan in all tournaments and get glued to the screen in billions to still watch a game against Pakistan when you say we won't ever play with dushman country, term bagheerti comes to mind.

And cricket is an international sport that India plays in with international teams not their local sanghis political meetup, you have to respect the game and follow rules, but state of cricket is corrupted by a third world country showing it's class each time to have it their way just because of viewership and financial backing. Any other sport, India would have been thrown out of the sport. As for the team, wouldn't take that back from India, after choking in major tournaments for a long while they finally won a few tournament. It's a sports of a few good teams only playing the game and you still aren't dominating like WI or Australia so relax and keep your emotions in check. This is a Pakistani forum so don't weep over pointing out the obvious
 
O....so these are IPL events :starc:virat1


Again you have started your lies.

First you start calling group matches as knockout matches. When actual knockouts are QF SF or Finals.

Then you lie about what actually happened in the group games.

India Australia match in 2009 got washed out. And it was India's second match. If India had won, India would have qualified.

Now where did you copy pasted this from?
 
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