Huge brawl breaks out in UK street as mob throw punches after India vs Pakistan cricket match

[topspin]

There are no hindu extremists anywhere in the world, let alone UK. Atleast I have never heard about it. Hindus along with Sikhs are known as most peaceful community in Britain whom even right wing white supremacists like and considers them non trouble makers. When people (white folks) talk about Leicester, they relate it with Diwali fireworks and not hooliganism. Then compare it with what they they talk about Bradford or Luton

Looks like the mask just slipped.

You know who you sound like? Raj from Speakers corner. In case you don't who he is, he's an Indian who has his head buried inside Tommy Robinson's backside. It's blindingly obvious that you're one of his supporters as well which speaks for itself.

As mentioned by [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] and others, this all reignited in the last day or so when Indian BJP Hindus started intimidating and inciting violence against Muslims in mosques. That's a cowardly act which should be condemned.

Tell your fellow BJP supporters to respect places of worship before you come here posting links of fake news from your pro-BJP media.

 

[topspin]

There are no hindu extremists anywhere in the world

This individual justified the killing of Muslims in Pakistan and Kashmir with reference to a concept/teaching of Hinduism.

See post 124 in the thread below:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...s-in-India-quot/page2&p=11576433#post11576433

 

[Saj]

I remember going to a Leicestershire versus Pakistan match many years ago.

For some reason Indian fans turned up looking for trouble.

In fact I recall them taunting the Pakistan players and then looking for fights with Pakistani fans.

Stupid behaviour.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our response to disorder in East Leicester <a href="https://t.co/1alu5Q95er">pic.twitter.com/1alu5Q95er</a></p>— Leicestershire Police (@leicspolice) <a href="https://twitter.com/leicspolice/status/1571348061623914498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[daytrader]

British city tense in wake of Pakistan-India cricket match

TENSION gripped the British city of Leicester on Saturday after young men from the Muslim and Hindu communities took to the streets to express their indignation over, what both groups alleged, manhandling of members of their fraternity, the BBC reported.

Police said they had made two arrests and that violence flared up after “an unplanned protest” — the latest in a series of several incidents following the Pakistan-India match during the Asia Cup on Aug 28.

Police will maintain a “significant presence” in the disturbed areas indefinitely.

Suleman Nagdi, of the Leicester-based Federation of Muslim Organisations, said while talking to the BBC: “What we have seen on the streets is very alarming.

There have been problems in the community since the India-Pakistan cricket match and while such games often spark gatherings, they have not in the past turned this ugly.

“We need calm. The disorder has to stop and it has to stop now. There are some very dissatisfied young men who have been causing havoc.”

Sanjiv Patel, who represents the Hindu and Jain communities across Leicester, said he was saddened by Saturday night’s disorder.

“We have lived in harmony in the city for many decades, but over the past few weeks it is clear there are things that need to be discussed around the table to get out what people are unhappy about.

“Across the Hindu and Jain communities and with our Muslim brothers and sisters we are consistently saying ‘calm minds, calm heads.”

He warned people to be wary of disinformation on social media.

Police said they had detained one man on suspicion of “conspiracy to commit violent disorder” and another on suspicion that he “possessed a bladed article”.

Leicester city mayor Sir Peter Soulsby said it was important that community leaders tried to de-escalate the situation, but he acknowledged it was a challenge to reach out to young people.

Community leaders were on the ground with police officers and called for calm, advising people to go home. Police said they had carried out “a large number of searches” in several neighbourhoods.

“Several incidents of violence and damage have been reported to the police and are being investigated,” a spokesperson said.

“We are aware of a video circulating showing a man pulling down a flag outside a religious building on Melton Road, Leicester.

“This appears to have taken place while police officers were dealing with public disorder in the area. The incident will be investigated.”

A woman who saw Saturday’s disturbances said there were people in balaclavas, with masks over their faces and hoods pulled up.

In an interview with BBC she said “they were just everywhere. It was like crowds walking away from a football match”.

DAWN

 

[Rana]

It saddens me to see UK born Hindus go down this path of anger and violence towards British Muslims

This is what happens when the UK government is unjust at calling out atrocities committed in IOC but goes over and beyond to defend Ukraine. It gives people the false assurance that their stand is supported by the West and they can continue with it here

 

[Technics 1210]

What this news proves is the following:

Hindutva is alive and well in the UK.

Indians do care about the Pakistan/India cricket rivalry.

Leicester was, is, and will remain one of the worst places in the UK.

 

[Local.Dada]

It saddens me to see UK born Hindus go down this path of anger and violence towards British Muslims

This is what happens when the UK government is unjust at calling out atrocities committed in IOC but goes over and beyond to defend Ukraine. It gives people the false assurance that their stand is supported by the West and they can continue with it here

Given the attitude I see from some British-Pakistanis on the forum, I am in fact surprised it took this long for this to be such a big issue.

“Ek haat se taali nahi bajti”

Also the only concern is hopefully there isn’t a 2nd gen of Hindu migrants now who have become Uber-religious and living on welfare as usually Hindu communities in Uk have a reputation of being law-abiding citizens who are meek and fall in line (some take it as an insult but I take pride in that)

 

[Browncaps]

I don't think you are answering my question. Who won the cricket match on 28th August? I hope you followed the recent Asia cup. India won the game and angry fans attacked Indians/hindus. What you see now as a backlash is reppercussions. Pakistan won on next sunday on 4th September and no report of violence anywhere.

The Quint which is an indian source, has stated the violence was initiated by a Hindu mob invading Muslim localities after india won the first Asia cup game against Pakistan. They also stated that further violence was initiated by the Hindu mob yesterday as well along with further incidents earlier.

 

[Rajdeep]

The Quint which is an indian source, has stated the violence was initiated by a Hindu mob invading Muslim localities after india won the first Asia cup game against Pakistan. They also stated that further violence was initiated by the Hindu mob yesterday as well along with further incidents earlier.

Check a video [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] shared few posts ago of NewsX where they are saying hindus were being attacked. Its an Indian channel too. Not sure why should we trust Quint, which is known for its any India stance and not NewsX.

I would take Indian High Commission's official statement more seriously than any news outlets. They have clearly stated hindus in Leicester being attacked and have asked British authorities to look into this matter. If Pakistani's are attacked by Indians, has any high commission from Islamabad reached out for fair investigation?

 

[Markhor]

Just to be clear, sharing that video was not an endorsement of its contents...

 

[Browncaps]

Check a video [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] shared few posts ago of NewsX where they are saying hindus were being attacked. Its an Indian channel too. Not sure why should we trust Quint, which is known for its any India stance and not NewsX.

I would take Indian High Commission's official statement more seriously than any news outlets. They have clearly stated hindus in Leicester being attacked and have asked British authorities to look into this matter. If Pakistani's are attacked by Indians, has any high commission from Islamabad reached out for fair investigation?

I am not sure how you can dispute that indians have attacked Pakistanis, there is video evidence of it on page 1 of this thread. The Hindu mob committed further disgusting acts that I do not wish to post here to give them free publicity, anyone who interacts with some indians in person and online will know what their stance, language and aggression towards Pakistanis and Muslims is like.

I wanted to make clear that your lies about hindu mobs being innocent, who as always started the problem will be disproved with facts.

 

[Rajdeep]

I am not sure how you can dispute that indians have attacked Pakistanis, there is video evidence of it on page 1 of this thread. The Hindu mob committed further disgusting acts that I do not wish to post here to give them free publicity, anyone who interacts with some indians in person and online will know what their stance, language and aggression towards Pakistanis and Muslims is like.

I wanted to make clear that your lies about hindu mobs being innocent, who as always started the problem will be disproved with facts.

There is video evidence of hindus being attacked as well, which I shared on this thread. Pls check that as well. Now Indian high commission and minister of external affairs also taken the matter up with British authorities. Hope truth comes out soon

 

[Browncaps]

There is video evidence of hindus being attacked as well, which I shared on this thread. Pls check that as well. Now Indian high commission and minister of external affairs also taken the matter up with British authorities. Hope truth comes out soon

That is what usually happens when one party always initiates trouble, however, only you were denying that Pakistanis were attacked when quoting me, so I referenced proof. You also stated that trouble only occurred when india won, therefore I mentioned an indian source to refute that.

Per the locals who reside there, they feel the indian government is instigating and funding it to deliberately spread anti-Muslim sentiment. Let's hope for the real truth to be revealed.

 

[Local.Dada]

That is what usually happens when one party always initiates trouble, however, only you were denying that Pakistanis were attacked when quoting me, so I referenced proof. You also stated that trouble only occurred when india won, therefore I mentioned an indian source to refute that.

Per the locals who reside there, they feel the indian government is instigating and funding it to deliberately spread anti-Muslim sentiment. Let's hope for the real truth to be revealed.

So anti-Muslim sentiment exists only due to RSS- BJP funding and Jew-Mossad conspiracy.

Is there any space for any counter- opinion?. I would assume not

 

[rhony]

Something is in the air and it's everywhere. Ind vs Pak cricket match is just an excuse. Hindus are emboldened because of BJP and are showing it. They are doing it in UK, US and other countries as well. I totally think this will continue. There is a strong push by left liberals and Muslims to portray Hindus and hindutva as a radical force. Instead of tame responses as in the past, Hindus have chosen two paths. One is to portray there is 'hinduphobia'. Second is to rile the Muslims even more.

After what happened yesterday, it was a success by the Hindu brigade when they saw a goon breaking the flags on a Hindu temple. The police were instructed to stay calm and let it happen. The video is for everyone to see. The idea is to break the nexus of left liberal intellectuals and islamists. When push comes to shove, the islamists typically react very violently and at some point supporting them will be untenable for the liberal left. This is a typical Israeli/Indian game where they keep the pot boiling, there will be dissent just to show democracy is thriving while the govt policies keep rolling with zero sanctions from the west.

 

[Browncaps]

So anti-Muslim sentiment exists only due to RSS- BJP funding and Jew-Mossad conspiracy.

Is there any space for any counter- opinion?. I would assume not

It might be better for you to read the post and comprehend it before quoting, else you will sound like you currently do. Given the special hatred Modi and his ilk have for Muslims, I can see why locals feel that way. Even rhony who sides with the indian perspective agrees.

Also lol @ the random words you are throwing in.

 

[the Great Khan]

It all started on 28th of August and what you see is repercussions. Can you tell me what happened on 28th August? Let me tell you. It was the day when India beat Pakistan in Asia cup and Hindus in Leicester were attacked by angry Pakistanis who couldn't digest the loss. See the video below - regular chants against Modi etc which I have heard a lot in UK

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gangs running riot and escalating attacks on Hindus. Innocent Hindus have been terrorized in their own properties, there have been attempts to stab and there has been rampant vandalism of Hindu properties. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Leicester?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Leicester</a> <a href="https://t.co/zWiyISy2hw">pic.twitter.com/zWiyISy2hw</a></p>— Rashmi Samant (@RashmiDVS) <a href="https://twitter.com/RashmiDVS/status/1567357000664875008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oye apni bakwaas bund kuro. I live here. It started way before.

Hindu rss **** youth are rife in certain areas and they come out at night like cowards. Terrorising innocent residents with loud music alcohol field hooliganism. There are reports they ripped a quraan and threw it on the streets. They also attacked a Muslim youth in May and nearly killed him. They have been attacking individual men walking to work or alone for weeks before the match. They have also urinated on one of our mosques and then run away like cowards.

Well enough was enough and finally the Muslim community took a stand. And will continue to do so. I must also emphasise the majority of Muslims are themselves of Indian origin mostly gujarati but also memons and kutchis.

Yesterday the whole Muslim community including Pakistanis Arabs turks Somalians and North African youth joined a peaceful march to show that we are here and standing.

By God we will defend our streets and people from the RSS and your fanaticism. And we will use the law. Already 27 arrests have taken place and more to follow.

The march by Hindus was mostly London based Hindus who came up here. But there are significant groups in the city from recently arrived Indian immigrants..probably around the last decade..they drink way too much are uncouth and violent.

I had to keep my son at home yesterday for fear he may get attacked while walking alone. Yer you come on here and spout garbage??

 

[IMMY69]

There is video evidence of hindus being attacked as well, which I shared on this thread. Pls check that as well. Now Indian high commission and minister of external affairs also taken the matter up with British authorities. Hope truth comes out soon

Some advice.
Take it or leave it, it's entirely up to you.

Don't believe anything your government tells you or your media, which includes social media.

 

[Rajdeep]

Oye apni bakwaas bund kuro. I live here. It started way before.

Hindu rss **** youth are rife in certain areas and they come out at night like cowards. Terrorising innocent residents with loud music alcohol field hooliganism. There are reports they ripped a quraan and threw it on the streets. They also attacked a Muslim youth in May and nearly killed him. They have been attacking individual men walking to work or alone for weeks before the match. They have also urinated on one of our mosques and then run away like cowards.

Well enough was enough and finally the Muslim community took a stand. And will continue to do so. I must also emphasise the majority of Muslims are themselves of Indian origin mostly gujarati but also memons and kutchis.

Yesterday the whole Muslim community including Pakistanis Arabs turks Somalians and North African youth joined a peaceful march to show that we are here and standing.

By God we will defend our streets and people from the RSS and your fanaticism. And we will use the law. Already 27 arrests have taken place and more to follow.

The march by Hindus was mostly London based Hindus who came up here. But there are significant groups in the city from recently arrived Indian immigrants..probably around the last decade..they drink way too much are uncouth and violent.

I had to keep my son at home yesterday for fear he may get attacked while walking alone. Yer you come on here and spout garbage??

I live here too. It all started since 2019 when Article 370 was removed in Indian parliament. You talk about cowards but real cowards were those thousands and thousands Pakistanis, Mirpuri's, Khalistani's etc who attacked kids, women and old men on 15th August 2019 and vandalized Indian embassy. I myself was present there...bottles, cans, eggs, stones all pelted at us. You attempt to make Pakistani's in Britain innocent and all blame on hindu communities in hilarious.

And LOL at we will protect our streets from RSS. First of all there is no RSS in UK and even if a people subscribed to RSS ideology, nothing you can do unfortunately bcoz RSS is not a banned organization in the UK. In the history of Britain, there has been no crime committed by RSS.

And yes, in the video you can clearly see how peaceful the protest was. Trust me, I have seen many such peaceful protest here in London from usual suspects.

 

[Rajdeep]

Some advice.
Take it or leave it, it's entirely up to you.

Don't believe anything your government tells you or your media, which includes social media.

Its not for you believe but most world democracies take anything Indian govt takes very seriously as it has much better credibility. Forget everyone, your own ex PM Imran Khan played video of Indian external minister S.Jaishankar in his rally to set an example about how governance work. Now since the same external ministry raised this issue of hindus being attacked in Leicester with British authorities, I am sure law will takes it course. Upto you - take it or leave it.

 

[Local.Dada]

RSS can’t have enough outreach in big cities in India but they have overtaken London

Sometimes this is parallel universe.

We see British-Pakistanis outrage over Israel on the streets which they have 0 connection to apart from religion and here we are supposed to believe that RSS London branch is attacking innocent Muslims and that too under British governments watch.

I don’t deny there might be a fringe group even in Hindu community these days but having close ties with a lot of people in the UK I can only assume it is reactionary.

Not saying all Muslims are like that obviously but we all know in UK which community has the fringe reputation. That is why this is so hard to believe that a Hindu mob started it.

It might be true but we all know the boy who cried wolf story or some variation of it.

 

[IMMY69]

Its not for you believe but most world democracies take anything Indian govt takes very seriously as it has much better credibility. Forget everyone, your own ex PM Imran Khan played video of Indian external minister S.Jaishankar in his rally to set an example about how governance work. Now since the same external ministry raised this issue of hindus being attacked in Leicester with British authorities, I am sure law will takes it course. Upto you - take it or leave it.

Like I said you can take it or leave it.
With regards to democracy and western media, that old chestnut is what's got the world to where it is now.

 

[Bewal Express]

Oye apni bakwaas bund kuro. I live here. It started way before.

Hindu rss **** youth are rife in certain areas and they come out at night like cowards. Terrorising innocent residents with loud music alcohol field hooliganism. There are reports they ripped a quraan and threw it on the streets. They also attacked a Muslim youth in May and nearly killed him. They have been attacking individual men walking to work or alone for weeks before the match. They have also urinated on one of our mosques and then run away like cowards.

Well enough was enough and finally the Muslim community took a stand. And will continue to do so. I must also emphasise the majority of Muslims are themselves of Indian origin mostly gujarati but also memons and kutchis.

Yesterday the whole Muslim community including Pakistanis Arabs turks Somalians and North African youth joined a peaceful march to show that we are here and standing.

By God we will defend our streets and people from the RSS and your fanaticism. And we will use the law. Already 27 arrests have taken place and more to follow.

The march by Hindus was mostly London based Hindus who came up here. But there are significant groups in the city from recently arrived Indian immigrants..probably around the last decade..they drink way too much are uncouth and violent.

I had to keep my son at home yesterday for fear he may get attacked while walking alone. Yer you come on here and spout garbage??

Keep safe bro, these RSS thugs have a chip on their shoulder and because they out number the Muslims they think they are hard. My son has just come back from Nottingham and such is the anger that all him and his mates talk about was going to Leicester to support the Muslim people. IA it won't come to anything but your not alone.

 

[James]

Keep discussion civil and also don’t share random links, thanks.

 

[Kroll]

Something is in the air and it's everywhere. Ind vs Pak cricket match is just an excuse. Hindus are emboldened because of BJP and are showing it. They are doing it in UK, US and other countries as well. I totally think this will continue. There is a strong push by left liberals and Muslims to portray Hindus and hindutva as a radical force. Instead of tame responses as in the past, Hindus have chosen two paths. One is to portray there is 'hinduphobia'. Second is to rile the Muslims even more.

After what happened yesterday, it was a success by the Hindu brigade when they saw a goon breaking the flags on a Hindu temple. The police were instructed to stay calm and let it happen. The video is for everyone to see. The idea is to break the nexus of left liberal intellectuals and islamists. When push comes to shove, the islamists typically react very violently and at some point supporting them will be untenable for the liberal left. This is a typical Israeli/Indian game where they keep the pot boiling, there will be dissent just to show democracy is thriving while the govt policies keep rolling with zero sanctions from the west.

What are you blabbering on about?

 

[James]

Keep discussion civil and also don’t share random links, thanks.

As above.

 

[rhony]

Its not for you believe but most world democracies take anything Indian govt takes very seriously as it has much better credibility. Forget everyone, your own ex PM Imran Khan played video of Indian external minister S.Jaishankar in his rally to set an example about how governance work. Now since the same external ministry raised this issue of hindus being attacked in Leicester with British authorities, I am sure law will takes it course. Upto you - take it or leave it.

The word democracy is thrown around but it's useless. Is Saudi Arabia a democracy? Is UAE? Is China? It's all about economy. India is tiny in terms of per Capita income but what drives politics is the purchasing power. India is one of the fastest growing economies in the next decade and there is a lot of money to be made. India will be fine

 

[daytrader]

Hindu temple targeted in UK's Leicester, India seeks action | What we know so far
A Hindu temple was targeted by unidentified men in UK's Leicester, invoking a strong response from India. The Indian mission in London has sought action from the UK government. Here's what we know so far.

The Indian High Commission in London has strongly protested against the violence and condemned the vandalising of a Hindu temple in UK's Leicester. In a statement, the Commission said it has sought immediate action against those involved in these attacks.

The strong response came after a Hindu temple was vandalised and a saffron flag outside it was pulled down by unidentified persons in East Leicester. A video of the incident showed a man, clothed in black, atop a building, pulling down a saffron flag while onlookers cheered him on. The temple was targeted in the presence of the UK Police.

Here's what we know so far.
1) The incidents of violence follow various videos and reports about clashes between Hindu and Muslim groups in Leicester, following an India-Pakistan Asia Cup cricket match played in Dubai on August 28.

2) Soon after, reports emerged that a Hindu temple was vandalised by unidentified men clothed in black, triggering violence in the UK city. On September 18, the Leicestershire Police issued a statement on the "serious disorder" and said more officers would be deployed to maintain law and order.

3) The police said that several incidents of violence and damage were reported and a probe is underway. Soon after, one person was arrested for conspiring to commit violence, and another was arrested on suspicion of possession of a bladed article.

4) On Monday, the Indian High Commission issued a statement condemning the violence against the Indian community and vandalisation of Hindu religious symbols.

"We have strongly taken up this matter with the UK authorities and have sought immediate action against those involved in these attacks. We call on the authorities to provide protection to the affected people," the Commission said in the statement on Monday.

5) As many as 47 people have so far been arrested for involvement in the violence, according to the Leicestershire Police. The cops are also probing the incident where a flag outside a religious place on Melton Road was pulled down. According to reports, Hindu homes and vehicles were allegedly targeted by local radical Islamists on the streets of Leicester.

"The impact of the disorder on our communities is not acceptable. Thank you to all who are working to reduce tensions. We will not tolerate violence or disorder in our city," the city police had said in a statement.

6) Meanwhile, the police have denied claims that Muslim-owned properties were vandalised by a group who chanted "Jai Shri Ram" slogans.

7) Dishita Solanki, an eyewitness to the attack on a Hindu temple in the UK city, told India Today TV that Leicester is a scary place to be at the moment.

"There are other cities that are being targeted, like Nottingham and Birmingham. I have relatives staying in a lot of cities. I have had messages from all of them saying that there are spots in other cities as well. So, scared is a bit of an understatement. If your house was under attack and somebody was going to knock your door down and people were walking around on the streets, shouting Allah-hu-Akbar, you would be petrified. Anybody would be petrified," Solanki said, adding that media coverage of the incident has been unfair.

8) According to Leicestershire Police, patrols continued throughout the evening in East Leicester with no new reports of violence. The situation is calm, the police said.

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/sto...icester-india-seeks-action-2002258-2022-09-20

 

[the Great Khan]

I live here too. It all started since 2019 when Article 370 was removed in Indian parliament. You talk about cowards but real cowards were those thousands and thousands Pakistanis, Mirpuri's, Khalistani's etc who attacked kids, women and old men on 15th August 2019 and vandalized Indian embassy. I myself was present there...bottles, cans, eggs, stones all pelted at us. You attempt to make Pakistani's in Britain innocent and all blame on hindu communities in hilarious.

And LOL at we will protect our streets from RSS. First of all there is no RSS in UK and even if a people subscribed to RSS ideology, nothing you can do unfortunately bcoz RSS is not a banned organization in the UK. In the history of Britain, there has been no crime committed by RSS.

And yes, in the video you can clearly see how peaceful the protest was. Trust me, I have seen many such peaceful protest here in London from usual suspects.

What is this rambling nonsense. There is no Indian embassy in Leicester. Most people here have no idea about article 370. They are committing crimes on the street of my city for the past few months. Beating people up and terrorising Muslims in their homes. I live in Leicester. I walk these streets and know the people. You have no idea what is going on.

 

[the Great Khan]

RSS can’t have enough outreach in big cities in India but they have overtaken London

Sometimes this is parallel universe.

We see British-Pakistanis outrage over Israel on the streets which they have 0 connection to apart from religion and here we are supposed to believe that RSS London branch is attacking innocent Muslims and that too under British governments watch.

I don’t deny there might be a fringe group even in Hindu community these days but having close ties with a lot of people in the UK I can only assume it is reactionary.

Not saying all Muslims are like that obviously but we all know in UK which community has the fringe reputation. That is why this is so hard to believe that a Hindu mob started it.

It might be true but we all know the boy who cried wolf story or some variation of it.

I'm here on the streets and I'm telling you who started it..so believe what you want..

 

[Varun]

If this had happened in the UAE or someplace like that, this lot would have been deported back to Uttar Pradesh where they truly belong.

The UK is too soft. The Indian government isn't scared of them like they are of the Gulf countries. #NupurSharma

 

[MenInG]

Police faced "significant aggression" and some were injured as they dealt with disorder in Leicester, the force's chief constable has said.

Sixteen officers and a police dog were injured on Saturday as they worked to stop groups of men from attacking each other, Rob Nixon said.

The unrest came amid tensions involving mainly young men from sections of the Muslim and Hindu communities.

The policing operation is continuing into Monday evening.

A 20-year-old man from Leicester was jailed for 10 months, according to Leicestershire Police, after he pleaded guilty on Monday to possession of an offensive weapon.

Officers 'significantly outnumbered'
Mr Nixon said officers had been brought in "from all sorts of different parts of the country" to help with the operation.

"They were faced with significant aggression, I think they faced some very, very challenging situations, and I actually do believe they put themselves in danger to protect the public," he said.

"I have to say, I was actually on the ground [on Saturday] and I saw the level of aggression and the level of non-compliance, and I thought my officers did a tremendous job when significantly outnumbered.

"I think we were faced with a significant number of people that were intent on causing significant injury to other people, and my officers stood their ground."

Some officers cancelled their days off in order to help, including those from other forces.

"These people are being drawn in at a time when there is probably the largest policing operation in the country, linked with the state funeral, so these things are having a broader impact," Mr Nixon said.

Police said the original disorder on Saturday had been sparked by a protest in the East Leicester area.

Another protest involving about 100 people followed on Sunday, but police said there had been no further disorder overnight into Monday.

Two people were arrested during the disorder on Saturday - one on suspicion of possession of a bladed article, and the other on suspicion of conspiracy to commit violent disorder.

Police said a further 18 people were arrested on Sunday night for offences including affray, common assault, possession of an offensive weapon and violent disorder.

Some community members have criticised police for not making more arrests during the original disorder.

Mr Nixon said: "Clearly making arrests in that really dynamic situation can take officers away from what they're trying to do at that time.

"The primary objective on Saturday night was to keep separation between these large groups.

"Within that there were two people that were arrested, but what I will say is there were significant steps taken in terms of securing the video imagery of people.

"We've got an investigative team that has been put in place for each area of these disorders, and we're then going back over and investigating it."

The disorder over the weekend was the latest of several incidents, including violence after an India and Pakistan cricket match on 28 August.

Police said a total of 47 people had been arrested in relation to unrest in the east of Leicester since 28 August.

These include people from outside of the city, including some from Birmingham.

Leicester's elected mayor, Sir Peter Soulsby, said he and community leaders were "baffled" by the events over the weekend.

"It got fanned by some very distorted social media," Mr Soulsby said.

"And then fuelled by a lot of people who came in from outside as well as some young local lads who seemed to feel it was appropriate to frighten and disturb this peaceful city.

"I also know there was also a concerted attempt on Saturday to bring people from as far as Birmingham, to ship them across to have a bit of a 'set-to' in Leicester."

Community leaders in the city have joined police in calling for calm.

Suleman Nagdi, of the Leicester-based Federation of Muslim Organisations, told the BBC: "There are some very dissatisfied young men who have been causing havoc.

"We need to get the message out that this must end and try to do this through parents and grandparents talking to their sons."

Sanjiv Patel, who represents Hindu and Jain temples across Leicester, said: "Violence is not a solution to anything. This has to be a time for peace, calm and engagement."

'Disgraceful attack'
Leicestershire Police Federation said the injuries to the police officers were "utterly despicable".

Chairman Adam Commons said: "My colleagues do not come to work to be subjected to this type of behaviour and should not be going home nursing cuts and bruises.

"One of our police dogs has also been injured in a disgraceful attack.

"They are all trying to do their job and keep people safe."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-62957110

 

[Varun]

We both know if they attack the wrong Pakistani, they will tracked down and beaten until they are blue. This goes for any major city in the UK, Pakistanis very rarely get bullied by Indians esp Hindus.

Interesting you say these lot arrived in the last 15 years, seems they are influenced by Hindutva extremism, the words of their beloved leaders have go to their minds. But no surprise it took many of them to attack one or two, a perfect trait of Hindutva goons.

You people are all talk. The big mouth does what it does best, with no tangible results in improving your quality of life in the UK, or anything substantial in other issues that consume your life (Israel, Kashmir, etc.) over multiple generations.

You need to be Arab to get a reaction out of Indians. They are the 'real' Muslim power and hold a large club that can make things happen.

 

[Rajdeep]

If this had happened in the UAE or someplace like that, this lot would have been deported back to Uttar Pradesh where they truly belong.

The UK is too soft. The Indian government isn't scared of them like they are of the Gulf countries. #NupurSharma

Why would Pakistani's be deported to Uttar Pradesh for attacking hindu temple in Leicester? Even if we assume, it was Indians who insitgated it (which I know isn't the case), majority Indians in Leicester are Gujju's and some from Punjab and some from other Southern states.

 

[Varun]

Why would Pakistani's be deported to Uttar Pradesh for attacking hindu temple in Leicester? Even if we assume, it was Indians who insitgated it (which I know isn't the case), majority Indians in Leicester are Gujju's and some from Punjab and some from other Southern states.

I can guess that nobody from South India is involved in any India - Pakistan riot. We'll leave that to you.

 

[the Great Khan]

I can see our resident RSS cheerleaders having real trouble calling out the trouble makers.

So let's get things out of the way first:

Firstly when did this start? Well here are two articles that will highlight the issues. Now for my RSS friends please park your racism aside and actually read them. They are written by people on the ground not some sanghi in bombay a thousand miles away.

The first article is for our local paper the Mercury and the reporter has spoken to eye witnesses. Notice how he attempts to keep things neutral but downstairs mention the reports of the desecration of the quraan and the offence offences outside one of the masjids.

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/news-opinion/what-led-ugly-scenes-violence-7603138

The second article is quoting brother majid who was literally on the ground and has made videos documenting the incidents and violence from the hinduvta.

https://5pillarsuk.com/2022/09/06/gangs-of-hindu-youths-are-terrorising-muslims-in-leicester/

Here is another article from a local resident:

https://5pillarsuk.com/2022/09/18/h...icing-created-chaos-in-leicester-on-saturday/

Now finally to talk about Leicester my home town. I have lived here for over 40 years give or take (excluding a detor to the homeland). I have worked sat and broke bread laughed and done business with the Hindu Sikh communities. On Saturday I was on Belgrave Road buying chaat. On Sunday I met friends majority who are kuchi and gujarati for a meal. We met up with a half Sri Lankan friend who we had seen in 20 years. There were no issues. The city is largely peaceful. But the trust has taken a massive dent.

The majority Muslim community in this city is gujarati. Pakistanis are a very tiny number. We have a sizable Somalian community too. For the first time in years gujarati friends are worried about their status as Muslims in this city. Many know what is happening in India. The fear is slowly rising. The events of the last few months had increased that anxiety.

There are over 49 masjid in the city including a big markaz and darululoom. The Hindu mob tried to get to that particular darul uloom a few days ago. They also tried to get to one of the oldest and most renowned masjid too. Luckily the police and local residents stopped them.

There have been attempts to try and portray this as a india vs Pakistan issue. It isn't. This is Indian politics on the streets of the UK. But the difference is Muslims here are multinational and not just gujarati. If masajid are defaced or attacked then you will see Somalians north Africans turks Pakistanis and all sorts coming to show their support.

On Sunday we saw this. With large groups of Muslims from both within Leicester and outside coming down. This included famous you tubers like Ali Dawah and Mohammed Hijab. The demo was peaceful. But it was a show of force to this minority but also to the silent Hindu majority who many believe are secretly happy at these turn of events. Whether this is accurate or not will see but it is a common pattern if you follow the anti Muslim violence in India.

Now this is a message to all of you on this forum whomever you are. Leicester is a peaceful quiet city. We get on with our lives and plod along. We go to work together and chat together. We even fought the national front together. Blood was shed on these streets. We cannot let this fascist strain of intolerance destroy that hard won peace. My message to any RSS aupporter is you will not succeed in destroying our city..we will stand against you.

I still remember when India won the world Cup in 2011. Both Muslim and Hindu Indians celebrated. I heard alot of banter. But it was all good. Muslim takeaways had the final on live as they cheered on India. That's a far cry from today.

 

[shortbread]

Urban violence in england used to dominated by black youth, nice to see Asians joining the competition as well. England is on a downward spiral, violence, crime, hate just keeps garnering pace!

 

[Manunited18]

I can see our resident RSS cheerleaders having real trouble calling out the trouble makers.

So let's get things out of the way first:

Firstly when did this start? Well here are two articles that will highlight the issues. Now for my RSS friends please park your racism aside and actually read them. They are written by people on the ground not some sanghi in bombay a thousand miles away.

The first article is for our local paper the Mercury and the reporter has spoken to eye witnesses. Notice how he attempts to keep things neutral but downstairs mention the reports of the desecration of the quraan and the offence offences outside one of the masjids.

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/news-opinion/what-led-ugly-scenes-violence-7603138

The second article is quoting brother majid who was literally on the ground and has made videos documenting the incidents and violence from the hinduvta.

https://5pillarsuk.com/2022/09/06/gangs-of-hindu-youths-are-terrorising-muslims-in-leicester/

Here is another article from a local resident:

https://5pillarsuk.com/2022/09/18/h...icing-created-chaos-in-leicester-on-saturday/

Now finally to talk about Leicester my home town. I have lived here for over 40 years give or take (excluding a detor to the homeland). I have worked sat and broke bread laughed and done business with the Hindu Sikh communities. On Saturday I was on Belgrave Road buying chaat. On Sunday I met friends majority who are kuchi and gujarati for a meal. We met up with a half Sri Lankan friend who we had seen in 20 years. There were no issues. The city is largely peaceful. But the trust has taken a massive dent.

The majority Muslim community in this city is gujarati. Pakistanis are a very tiny number. We have a sizable Somalian community too. For the first time in years gujarati friends are worried about their status as Muslims in this city. Many know what is happening in India. The fear is slowly rising. The events of the last few months had increased that anxiety.

There are over 49 masjid in the city including a big markaz and darululoom. The Hindu mob tried to get to that particular darul uloom a few days ago. They also tried to get to one of the oldest and most renowned masjid too. Luckily the police and local residents stopped them.

There have been attempts to try and portray this as a india vs Pakistan issue. It isn't. This is Indian politics on the streets of the UK. But the difference is Muslims here are multinational and not just gujarati. If masajid are defaced or attacked then you will see Somalians north Africans turks Pakistanis and all sorts coming to show their support.

On Sunday we saw this. With large groups of Muslims from both within Leicester and outside coming down. This included famous you tubers like Ali Dawah and Mohammed Hijab. The demo was peaceful. But it was a show of force to this minority but also to the silent Hindu majority who many believe are secretly happy at these turn of events. Whether this is accurate or not will see but it is a common pattern if you follow the anti Muslim violence in India.

Now this is a message to all of you on this forum whomever you are. Leicester is a peaceful quiet city. We get on with our lives and plod along. We go to work together and chat together. We even fought the national front together. Blood was shed on these streets. We cannot let this fascist strain of intolerance destroy that hard won peace. My message to any RSS aupporter is you will not succeed in destroying our city..we will stand against you.

I still remember when India won the world Cup in 2011. Both Muslim and Hindu Indians celebrated. I heard alot of banter. But it was all good. Muslim takeaways had the final on live as they cheered on India. That's a far cry from today.

Agree. Rather than being portrayed as Pakistanis v indians tensions its basically Right wing Hindus attacking the muslkm Gujratee communities.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If this had happened in the UAE or someplace like that, this lot would have been deported back to Uttar Pradesh where they truly belong.

The UK is too soft. The Indian government isn't scared of them like they are of the Gulf countries. #NupurSharma

The hindutva brigade in the UK are calculating that with the general air of Islamophobia since 9-11, they might be dealt with softly if they instigate trouble against Muslims. I see the same tactics which are tried and tested in India, go on the rampage in large numbers, then claim it was a response to some terrible provocation or violence by Muslims.

 

[the Great Khan]

The hindutva brigade in the UK are calculating that with the general air of Islamophobia since 9-11, they might be dealt with softly if they instigate trouble against Muslims. I see the same tactics which are tried and tested in India, go on the rampage in large numbers, then claim it was a response to some terrible provocation or violence by Muslims.

We have hindutva mouthpieces doing just that on these forums as well. They probably figure they can get away with it, and to be honest, they probably will.

Unluckily for.them we actually have vid evidence and police are making arrests. They were surveillance the crowds through three days of incidents. They have police reports from May till now. If these sanghis think just because the home secretary is Indian they are now in charge theybhave another thing coming. This time the Muslim community played it smart (in general other than that idiot who ripped off the flag) and took videos and spoke to journalists. This is the way to fight this evil. We will not bow down to you..that is the message to Modis dogs..

By the way there was a massive gurdwara and Hindu temple near that demo and a masjid..all within walking distance..these junglies will be dealt with..

 

[Civil]

Unluckily for.them we actually have vid evidence and police are making arrests. They were surveillance the crowds through three days of incidents. They have police reports from May till now. If these sanghis think just because the home secretary is Indian they are now in charge theybhave another thing coming. This time the Muslim community played it smart (in general other than that idiot who ripped off the flag) and took videos and spoke to journalists. This is the way to fight this evil. We will not bow down to you..that is the message to Modis dogs..

By the way there was a massive gurdwara and Hindu temple near that demo and a masjid..all within walking distance..these junglies will be dealt with..

Thanks for your on the ground perspectives brother. Sad to see this stuff spill over from gujrat to UK.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Unluckily for.them we actually have vid evidence and police are making arrests. They were surveillance the crowds through three days of incidents. They have police reports from May till now. If these sanghis think just because the home secretary is Indian they are now in charge theybhave another thing coming. This time the Muslim community played it smart (in general other than that idiot who ripped off the flag) and took videos and spoke to journalists. This is the way to fight this evil. We will not bow down to you..that is the message to Modis dogs..

By the way there was a massive gurdwara and Hindu temple near that demo and a masjid..all within walking distance..these junglies will be dealt with..

It will be interesting to see what sort of sentences are handed out then. I still remember Pakistani heritage vandals getting handed 8 year sentences for throwing a stone after the Bradford riots, the reasoning was that it was exemplary punishment. Maybe if we see similarly tough sentencing for the hindutvas, it will actually make them think twice about doing it again.

 

[Local.Dada]

I'm here on the streets and I'm telling you who started it..so believe what you want..

Why do you keep saying you ate on the ground/ streets? Are you a cop? If not are you part of a mob?


I live in a big city too but it’s not like I have first hand view of every protest or mob violence that happens here.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why do you keep saying you ate on the ground/ streets? Are you a cop? If not are you part of a mob?


I live in a big city too but it’s not like I have first hand view of every protest or mob violence that happens here.

Try reading his account of what is going on, it's pretty clear you haven't if you are asking dumb questions like "are you part of a mob?"

 

[Rajdeep]

Unluckily for.them we actually have vid evidence and police are making arrests. They were surveillance the crowds through three days of incidents. They have police reports from May till now. If these sanghis think just because the home secretary is Indian they are now in charge theybhave another thing coming. This time the Muslim community played it smart (in general other than that idiot who ripped off the flag) and took videos and spoke to journalists. This is the way to fight this evil. We will not bow down to you..that is the message to Modis dogs..

By the way there was a massive gurdwara and Hindu temple near that demo and a masjid..all within walking distance..these junglies will be dealt with..

There is video evidence of hindu temples being vandalized as well based on which Indian home ministry have seek action. I am not denying your observation on ground but there are always two sides of the story. And going by the past record of violence in the streets of UK, it is not tough to guess which party is the troublemaker. Let's just wait for police investigation

 

[Markhor]

Reports that half the arrests over the weekend were of people outside Leicester.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The lies that have been spread on these threads, posting selective reports or reports by biased twitter handles.

Well here is some from unbiased media.





Leicester Hindu - Muslim violence: 17 arrested in UK; here's what we know so far
Police have kept mum on the incident, likely in order to avoid fanning the tensions
FPJ Web Desk Updated: Monday, September 19, 2022, 06:04 PM IST




Following the India - Pakistan cricket match during the T20 World Cup on August 28, communal tensions flared up in Leicester in the UK, between members of the Indian-origin Hindu community and the largely Pakistan-origin Muslim community in the city.

These tension reached a boiling point over the weekend, with disorderly conduct occurring on both Saturday and Sunday.

Police said that "disturbances" broke out at an "unplanned protest" on Saturday night and Sunday morning.

On Sunday, during the latest incident, a group of about 100 had gathered in the city. They told local media that they had gathered to protest against the recent disorder.

Although police blocked off the road, some members of the crowd attempted to push past the barricade, and complained that they were being prevented from marching in protest.

A total of 17 people were arrested: 2 on Saturday and 15 more on Sunday.

What is this about?

Details are extremely sketchy about the incident. The British media have barely covered it -- unsurprising, given the wall-to-wall coverage of the royal funeral.

However, police too have kept mum on the incident, likely in order to avoid fanning the tensions.

What we do know is that Leicester Police released the following statement: "Officers became aware of groups of young men gathering on Sunday afternoon in the North Evington area of the city. Officers spoke to them and took steps, including putting in place a temporary police cordon, to minimise harm and disturbance to communities.”

Temporary chief constable Rob Nixon called for calm on Saturday night, and a police spokesperson said, "Two arrests were made – one man on suspicion of conspiracy to commit violent disorder and one man on suspicion of possession of a bladed article. They remain in police custody. We are continuing to call for dialogue and calm with support from local community leaders. We will not tolerate violence or disorder in our city.”

After the videos and reports surfaced online and on social media about Pakistani organized gangs were seen vandalising and terrorising Hindus in the UK's Leicester City, and that the Hindu's were seen vandalising mosques and chanting 'death to Muslims', the city police have confirmed that no mosque has been attacked and no chants of “death to Muslims" have been made, but not without endangering Hindu lives by buying into the false claims earlier.

Leicestershire Police has completely denied it on its twitter handle. It said, "We have seen reports on social media that a mosque is being attacked. Officers on the ground have confirmed that this is not true. Please share information on social media you know to be true. "




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fr...e-17-arrested-in-uk-heres-what-we-know-so-far

 

[cricketjoshila]

Some big statements made by posters on this thread. Well Hindus in UK are not at the mercy of pakistanis. They have the numbers, finances and strength to fight any of these threats.

And those calling hindus extremists, they will struggle to name 1 hindu involved in a terrorist attack in UK. This attempt to paint another community with the colours of extremism to divert attention from the facts that where did most of the terror attacks in UK originated from isn't going to wash.

 

[rhony]

There is video evidence of hindu temples being vandalized as well based on which Indian home ministry have seek action. I am not denying your observation on ground but there are always two sides of the story. And going by the past record of violence in the streets of UK, it is not tough to guess which party is the troublemaker. Let's just wait for police investigation

Hindus started the rumor that a mosque was attacked. The intended purpose was to rile up a few hoping they would attack a temple. It appears it worked. The weird thing is, there are many Muslims who would start a rumor that a mosque was attacked to provoke others to destroy a temple too. These blasphemy type rumors and the consequences work in Pakistan but not in the west.

 

[Kroll]

Why do you keep saying you ate on the ground/ streets? Are you a cop? If not are you part of a mob?


I live in a big city too but it’s not like I have first hand view of every protest or mob violence that happens here.

UK cities like Leicester are very small compared to prominent cities of India, and if these incidents are happening where asian community is predominantly residing, then probably not difficult to get a handle of what's going on the ground.

 

[rhony]

It will be interesting to see what sort of sentences are handed out then. I still remember Pakistani heritage vandals getting handed 8 year sentences for throwing a stone after the Bradford riots, the reasoning was that it was exemplary punishment. Maybe if we see similarly tough sentencing for the hindutvas, it will actually make them think twice about doing it again.

Depends on the profession of the arrested. If it's a first time offence or if the perpetrator is a student or has a decent job, these things could be misdemeanors. One thing for certain is they will have good legal representation. Second, there is no inherent bias in the legal system against Hindus. These will help

 

[Markhor]

It's clear the violence is primarily perpetrated by outsiders hellbent on importing subcontinental communal politics. There's obviously been provocation from both sides - however the lengths some are going to deny reality is astounding. Are people seriously denying some of these rioters have RSS sympathies ?

This man with the motorbike helmet proclaimed be an RSS member. Others join and harass an English female journalist sporting a headscarf. She was also accused of being a Taliban sympathiser amongst other things.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some footage of my interview with helmet man, that snowballed into a shouting match with an RSS member. Compared to the palpable aggression and fear that hung around Leicester yesterday, this paled in comparison, although it is a concerning hazard of being a journalist. <a href="https://t.co/eQU9Yo4KFo">pic.twitter.com/eQU9Yo4KFo</a></p>— Aina J. Khan (@ainajkhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/ainajkhan/status/1571640024646684674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Zero RSS in the UK ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Some big statements made by posters on this thread. Well Hindus in UK are not at the mercy of pakistanis. They have the numbers, finances and strength to fight any of these threats.

And those calling hindus extremists, they will struggle to name 1 hindu involved in a terrorist attack in UK. This attempt to paint another community with the colours of extremism to divert attention from the facts that where did most of the terror attacks in UK originated from isn't going to wash.

There's a difference between hooliganism and terrorism, I can only assume you are trying to bring in buzzwords to spread more hindutva disinformation. This is the UK not Mumbai, maybe you should stick to giving opinions on what goes on in your own neighbourhood instead of spewing propaganda which has no place here.

 

[Markhor]

The lies that have been spread on these threads, posting selective reports or reports by biased twitter handles.

Well here is some from unbiased media.





Leicester Hindu - Muslim violence: 17 arrested in UK; here's what we know so far
Police have kept mum on the incident, likely in order to avoid fanning the tensions
FPJ Web Desk Updated: Monday, September 19, 2022, 06:04 PM IST




Following the India - Pakistan cricket match during the T20 World Cup on August 28, communal tensions flared up in Leicester in the UK, between members of the Indian-origin Hindu community and the largely Pakistan-origin Muslim community in the city.

These tension reached a boiling point over the weekend, with disorderly conduct occurring on both Saturday and Sunday.

Police said that "disturbances" broke out at an "unplanned protest" on Saturday night and Sunday morning.

On Sunday, during the latest incident, a group of about 100 had gathered in the city. They told local media that they had gathered to protest against the recent disorder.

Although police blocked off the road, some members of the crowd attempted to push past the barricade, and complained that they were being prevented from marching in protest.

A total of 17 people were arrested: 2 on Saturday and 15 more on Sunday.

What is this about?

Details are extremely sketchy about the incident. The British media have barely covered it -- unsurprising, given the wall-to-wall coverage of the royal funeral.

However, police too have kept mum on the incident, likely in order to avoid fanning the tensions.

What we do know is that Leicester Police released the following statement: "Officers became aware of groups of young men gathering on Sunday afternoon in the North Evington area of the city. Officers spoke to them and took steps, including putting in place a temporary police cordon, to minimise harm and disturbance to communities.”

Temporary chief constable Rob Nixon called for calm on Saturday night, and a police spokesperson said, "Two arrests were made – one man on suspicion of conspiracy to commit violent disorder and one man on suspicion of possession of a bladed article. They remain in police custody. We are continuing to call for dialogue and calm with support from local community leaders. We will not tolerate violence or disorder in our city.”

After the videos and reports surfaced online and on social media about Pakistani organized gangs were seen vandalising and terrorising Hindus in the UK's Leicester City, and that the Hindu's were seen vandalising mosques and chanting 'death to Muslims', the city police have confirmed that no mosque has been attacked and no chants of “death to Muslims" have been made, but not without endangering Hindu lives by buying into the false claims earlier.

Leicestershire Police has completely denied it on its twitter handle. It said, "We have seen reports on social media that a mosque is being attacked. Officers on the ground have confirmed that this is not true. Please share information on social media you know to be true. "




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fr...e-17-arrested-in-uk-heres-what-we-know-so-far

An unbiased source being an Indian newssite with no local reporters on the ground whatsoever with a laughably one sided commentary of events.

Yes the temple had its flag pulled down which was disgusting. However to deny any extremist sympathies amongst the Hindu marchers flies in the face of reality. There were no chants of death to Muslims that I've come across, but there were death to Pakistan chants recorded on camera.

https://youtu.be/dGkag8Zbo0E

We have video evidence of a British female reporter with a headscarf being accosted by three men, one a self-proclaimed RSS member, and provocative chanting in front of Muslim-owned businesses and homes.

https://youtu.be/LAdYy1tru_Y

For people who've shouted for years "don't talk about India, you don't know the ground realities" now lecturing UK people living in UK cities about UK ground realities is the height of hypocrisy.

This time, unlike similar activity in India that goes unpunished or unreported or misreported - it's taking place on neutral territory and there is no escaping the truth. Try the local newspaper Leicester Mercury.

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/...kCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/...kCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Or even the Spectator, a right-wing magazine, who've referenced the Hindutva ideology inspiring these masked men hellbent on importing Indian politics into a city that's enjoyed harmonial multifaith relations for decades:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-is-violence-breaking-out-in-leicester-

I realise though like the Trump cult, provided the culprits hate and despise the same people you do, no amount of evidence will sway your mind.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It's clear the violence is primarily perpetrated by outsiders hellbent on importing subcontinental communal politics. There's obviously been provocation from both sides - however the lengths some are going to deny reality is astounding. Are people seriously denying some of these rioters have RSS sympathies ?

This man with the motorbike helmet proclaimed be an RSS member. Others join and harass an English female journalist sporting a headscarf. She was also accused of being a Taliban sympathiser amongst other things.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some footage of my interview with helmet man, that snowballed into a shouting match with an RSS member. Compared to the palpable aggression and fear that hung around Leicester yesterday, this paled in comparison, although it is a concerning hazard of being a journalist. <a href="https://t.co/eQU9Yo4KFo">pic.twitter.com/eQU9Yo4KFo</a></p>— Aina J. Khan (@ainajkhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/ainajkhan/status/1571640024646684674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Zero RSS in the UK ?

They are speaking with thick Indian accents which is compounded by their high pitched squeaky voices. They should be deported to be honest, there is no place in a civilised country like the UK for this sort of hate mongering.

 

[Rajdeep]

It's clear the violence is primarily perpetrated by outsiders hellbent on importing subcontinental communal politics. There's obviously been provocation from both sides - however the lengths some are going to deny reality is astounding. Are people seriously denying some of these rioters have RSS sympathies ?

This man with the motorbike helmet proclaimed be an RSS member. Others join and harass an English female journalist sporting a headscarf. She was also accused of being a Taliban sympathiser amongst other things.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some footage of my interview with helmet man, that snowballed into a shouting match with an RSS member. Compared to the palpable aggression and fear that hung around Leicester yesterday, this paled in comparison, although it is a concerning hazard of being a journalist. <a href="https://t.co/eQU9Yo4KFo">pic.twitter.com/eQU9Yo4KFo</a></p>— Aina J. Khan (@ainajkhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/ainajkhan/status/1571640024646684674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Zero RSS in the UK ?

Again, you are going by one sided story. There are similar tweets and videos of hindu temples and houses being vandalized. Infact a lot of tweets and vidoes based on which Indian govt has responded and Leicester police investigating.

 

[Rajdeep]

They are speaking with thick Indian accents which is compounded by their high pitched squeaky voices. They should be deported to be honest, there is no place in a civilised country like the UK for this sort of hate mongering.

Deporting is not an option unless its a major legal issues but if it comes to that stage, we all know which group will be the 1st one to get deported.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Deporting is not an option unless its a major legal issues but if it comes to that stage, we all know which group will be the 1st one to get deported.

The only group that can be deported is the immigrants, these people speaking on video are clearly Indian immigrants who don't understand that in this country we don't incite mobs to riot, and religious strife is not viewed kindly. They should be booted out asap, they can rabble rouse in the slums they came from.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Some interesting points from this thread

1. According to many Indian posters extremism = terrorism. That's it. There is no other type of extremism. Interesting as I recall numerous threads where they talk about hate preachers

2. India see's itself as the "thakeedaar" of Hindus - Interesting again as its a common argument by Indians that Pakistan sees itself as "thakeedaar" of Islam, and its something they say negatively. Now this mandir where a flag was pulled down is not in India - so why is the Indian HC commenting on it?

3. India does not see itself as the "thakeedar" of Non-Muslim Indian origin people - Nothing from the Indian HC on the poor Indian muslim gujjus that could their heads kicked in by some hindus. Surely that is equally worthy of condemnation?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

You people are all talk. The big mouth does what it does best, with no tangible results in improving your quality of life in the UK, or anything substantial in other issues that consume your life (Israel, Kashmir, etc.) over multiple generations.

You need to be Arab to get a reaction out of Indians. They are the 'real' Muslim power and hold a large club that can make things happen.

Based on history its quite clear that Hindus only remain peaceful when there is a Muslim ruler in place ready to beat them with a club.

India flourished under the Mughals and Indians are flourishing in Arab countries.

Perhaps it is a lesson going forward.

 

[Rajdeep]

The only group that can be deported is the immigrants, these people speaking on video are clearly Indian immigrants who don't understand that in this country we don't incite mobs to riot, and religious strife is not viewed kindly. They should be booted out asap, they can rabble rouse in the slums they came from.

You are unnecessarily getting riled up. The bolded part is not true as Shamima Begum is prime example. Point is, anyone that breaks the law will and should be deported to their country of origin.

 

[Rajdeep]

Based on history its quite clear that Hindus only remain peaceful when there is a Muslim ruler in place ready to beat them with a club.

India flourished under the Mughals and Indians are flourishing in Arab countries.

Perhaps it is a lesson going forward.

This is factually incorrect, with respect. India had a glorious past pre Mughal & British era during hindu rulers. We were considered land of Aryabhattas (brain), Buddhas (spiritual) and Ashoka (bravery). Even today India is known as land of Yogas. Also, present India under BJP (hindutva) regime is most progressive ever since independence.

Perhaps a lesson to correct history going forward.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Some interesting points from this thread

1. According to many Indian posters extremism = terrorism. That's it. There is no other type of extremism. Interesting as I recall numerous threads where they talk about hate preachers

2. India see's itself as the "thakeedaar" of Hindus - Interesting again as its a common argument by Indians that Pakistan sees itself as "thakeedaar" of Islam, and its something they say negatively. Now this mandir where a flag was pulled down is not in India - so why is the Indian HC commenting on it?

3. India does not see itself as the "thakeedar" of Non-Muslim Indian origin people - Nothing from the Indian HC on the poor Indian muslim gujjus that could their heads kicked in by some hindus. Surely that is equally worthy of condemnation?

That is because we have a large amount of posters who are either India based, or Indian ex-pats, they don't really understand that people in the west are a bit more savvy and don't swallow propaganda hook line and sinker. They think by throwing in terrorist somewhere, they will get the sympathy white vote. In reality Brits would just be bemused by their high blood pressure antics and wonder what was going on.

 

[Technics 1210]

You are unnecessarily getting riled up. The bolded part is not true as Shamima Begum is prime example. Point is, anyone that breaks the law will and should be deported to their country of origin.

I am convinced you do not live in the UK.

UK citizenship can only be withdrawn if the citizenship was obtained through fraud, for the public good if the person is not stateless, and if the person harms UK interests.

Your Hindutva extremist mob wouldn’t dare try their attention insecure seeking stunt in London.

Though the UK government was spot on by banning entry to your messiah Modi based on grounds of religious extremism; Gujrat riots. He remains the only political figure to be banned in history.

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

 

[the Great Khan]

An unbiased source being an Indian newssite with no local reporters on the ground whatsoever with a laughably one sided commentary of events.

Yes the temple had its flag pulled down which was disgusting. However to deny any extremist sympathies amongst the Hindu marchers flies in the face of reality. There were no chants of death to Muslims that I've come across, but there were death to Pakistan chants recorded on camera.

https://youtu.be/dGkag8Zbo0E

We have video evidence of a British female reporter with a headscarf being accosted by three men, one a self-proclaimed RSS member, and provocative chanting in front of Muslim-owned businesses and homes.

https://youtu.be/LAdYy1tru_Y

For people who've shouted for years "don't talk about India, you don't know the ground realities" now lecturing UK people living in UK cities about UK ground realities is the height of hypocrisy.

This time, unlike similar activity in India that goes unpunished or unreported or misreported - it's taking place on neutral territory and there is no escaping the truth. Try the local newspaper Leicester Mercury.

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/...kCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/...kCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Or even the Spectator, a right-wing magazine, who've referenced the Hindutva ideology inspiring these masked men hellbent on importing Indian politics into a city that's enjoyed harmonial multifaith relations for decades:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-is-violence-breaking-out-in-leicester-

I realise though like the Trump cult, provided the culprits hate and despise the same people you do, no amount of evidence will sway your mind.

Putting our differences aside with regards to pak politics I appreciate your post above. How many more links and local information do we have to post for these narrow minded people to get the message?

 

[the Great Khan]

The lies that have been spread on these threads, posting selective reports or reports by biased twitter handles.

Well here is some from unbiased media.





Leicester Hindu - Muslim violence: 17 arrested in UK; here's what we know so far
Police have kept mum on the incident, likely in order to avoid fanning the tensions
FPJ Web Desk Updated: Monday, September 19, 2022, 06:04 PM IST




Following the India - Pakistan cricket match during the T20 World Cup on August 28, communal tensions flared up in Leicester in the UK, between members of the Indian-origin Hindu community and the largely Pakistan-origin Muslim community in the city.

These tension reached a boiling point over the weekend, with disorderly conduct occurring on both Saturday and Sunday.

Police said that "disturbances" broke out at an "unplanned protest" on Saturday night and Sunday morning.

On Sunday, during the latest incident, a group of about 100 had gathered in the city. They told local media that they had gathered to protest against the recent disorder.

Although police blocked off the road, some members of the crowd attempted to push past the barricade, and complained that they were being prevented from marching in protest.

A total of 17 people were arrested: 2 on Saturday and 15 more on Sunday.

What is this about?

Details are extremely sketchy about the incident. The British media have barely covered it -- unsurprising, given the wall-to-wall coverage of the royal funeral.

However, police too have kept mum on the incident, likely in order to avoid fanning the tensions.

What we do know is that Leicester Police released the following statement: "Officers became aware of groups of young men gathering on Sunday afternoon in the North Evington area of the city. Officers spoke to them and took steps, including putting in place a temporary police cordon, to minimise harm and disturbance to communities.”

Temporary chief constable Rob Nixon called for calm on Saturday night, and a police spokesperson said, "Two arrests were made – one man on suspicion of conspiracy to commit violent disorder and one man on suspicion of possession of a bladed article. They remain in police custody. We are continuing to call for dialogue and calm with support from local community leaders. We will not tolerate violence or disorder in our city.”

After the videos and reports surfaced online and on social media about Pakistani organized gangs were seen vandalising and terrorising Hindus in the UK's Leicester City, and that the Hindu's were seen vandalising mosques and chanting 'death to Muslims', the city police have confirmed that no mosque has been attacked and no chants of “death to Muslims" have been made, but not without endangering Hindu lives by buying into the false claims earlier.

Leicestershire Police has completely denied it on its twitter handle. It said, "We have seen reports on social media that a mosque is being attacked. Officers on the ground have confirmed that this is not true. Please share information on social media you know to be true. "




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fr...e-17-arrested-in-uk-heres-what-we-know-so-far

I live here. I grew up on those streets in those videos.. so you can frankly take your Mr Google and turn it sideways while shoving it up where the sun doesn't shine. We know this city better than some sanghi in calcutta

 

[Markhor]

Again, you are going by one sided story. There are similar tweets and videos of hindu temples and houses being vandalized. Infact a lot of tweets and vidoes based on which Indian govt has responded and Leicester police investigating.

Nobody is defending those actions. Again, as even Indian media is reporting, Leicester has been a multifaith city for generations. Communal riots have never occurred on this scale on British soil. The question being asked is why.

Over half of those arrested are outside the county, and locals saying many of the troublemakers are recent immigrants from India gives some idea. Or perhaps Hindu nationalist slogans in front of Muslim-owned shops, a reporter with a headscarf called a Taliban sympathiser, shouting death to Pakistan, or people openly admitting to RSS support ?

The trend is obvious and neutral sources are picking up on it. However despite all the evidence you won't even acknowledge there's a far-right or RSS influence on these marchers, or that there's even a problem of Hindu extremism. The threshold of extremism isn't reached only when somebody straps a bomb to themselves - it manifests itself in multiple forms.

Obviously your High Commission won't acknowledge it in their statement because their Government back home is stoking these nationalist flames themselves !

 

[Robert]

Must think on this.

 

[rhony]

Based on history its quite clear that Hindus only remain peaceful when there is a Muslim ruler in place ready to beat them with a club.

India flourished under the Mughals and Indians are flourishing in Arab countries.

Perhaps it is a lesson going forward.

Part of it is a historical fact. That is because typically Muslim locals can only be controlled by a ruler or a dictator. It continues to this day. They can't live in a democracy. As long as middle east had dictators, Syria, Iraq etc have been peaceful. When fellow citizens are peaceful under a strict ruler, Hindus thrive too occupying high ranking positions under the ruler. Indians flourish in Arab countries for the same reason. Muslims there are tightly controlled and you don't see riots.

 

[rhony]

I am convinced you do not live in the UK.

UK citizenship can only be withdrawn if the citizenship was obtained through fraud, for the public good if the person is not stateless, and if the person harms UK interests.

Your Hindutva extremist mob wouldn’t dare try their attention insecure seeking stunt in London.

Though the UK government was spot on by banning entry to your messiah Modi based on grounds of religious extremism; Gujrat riots. He remains the only political figure to be banned in history.

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

There was a new deal inked recently. Criminals can be deported too.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/237165...-on-repatriation-of-convicted-criminals?amp=1

 

[Markhor]

Putting our differences aside with regards to pak politics I appreciate your post above. How many more links and local information do we have to post for these narrow minded people to get the message?

I didn't realise we had any differences in Pak politics TGK !

There aren't any links that'll change anyone's mind. Nobody's asking these folks to be Congress supporters or big-time liberals. Support BJP all you want.

Just acknowledge the realities you can see for your own eyes and call a spade a spade.

 

[Technics 1210]

There was a new deal inked recently. Criminals can be deported too.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/237165...-on-repatriation-of-convicted-criminals?amp=1

The conditions I mentioned were in place when Theresa May was HS.

Also read the article you cite, it applies to Pakistani Citizens (aka Pakistani nationals without a UK citizenship) living in the UK, and NOT UK citizens living in the UK. Same as Indian nationals living in the UK without a UK citizenship.

Anyway, the response was to Shamima Begum example, who was stripped of her citizenship not because of committing a crime.

 

[the Great Khan]

Why do you keep saying you ate on the ground/ streets? Are you a cop? If not are you part of a mob?


I live in a big city too but it’s not like I have first hand view of every protest or mob violence that happens here.

Let me enlighten you lot.

Firstly this isn't India or London or Manchester or even Birmingham. This is Leicester. It is a small city compared to other cities in the area and ones you are familiar with. Contrary to the propaganda Indians don't control the city as you may think. Most of the Asian population lives in the East side. The white populace mostly on the West Side. Then there are mixed suburban areas that make up the county like Oadby Town which are mixed but more affluent.

The total population is around 350k. But the Asian populace is concentrated in about a 10 to 20 mile radius..perhaps a bit more. All the incidents in vids etc happened within a 2-3 mile radius of each other.
I grew up in an area called north evington which is where these **** decided to march. I know those streets like the back of my hand. One of my best friends lives in one of those streets..we go there beyond frequently. So yes I'm literally on those streets nearly everyday. My kids go to school or used to, nearby. I go to the masajid. Suits a small area we are talking about..one of your slums is bigger than this place..

So please sit down and stop reading your rubbish.

@Cpt.Rishwat they have charged and sentenced a guy to 10 months for carrying a deadly weapon..definitely not a Muslim..hell his name wasn't even a hindu sounding name but police have confirmed it's related to the troubles. He is from Leicester not far from where my parents live. Pretty rough neighborhood..local coop has iron bars on windows etc lol..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Part of it is a historical fact. That is because typically Muslim locals can only be controlled by a ruler or a dictator. It continues to this day. They can't live in a democracy. As long as middle east had dictators, Syria, Iraq etc have been peaceful. When fellow citizens are peaceful under a strict ruler, Hindus thrive too occupying high ranking positions under the ruler. Indians flourish in Arab countries for the same reason. Muslims there are tightly controlled and you don't see riots.

Everyone is controlled in Arab countries, and you don't see riots. Those rules are for the benefit of everyone, they don't just apply to Muslims. That said, in those dictatorships there is no room for legitimate dissent, that is the downside. But you wouldn't get the sort of nonsense you are seeing in Leicester over the last week.

 

[the Great Khan]

I didn't realise we had any differences in Pak politics TGK !

There aren't any links that'll change anyone's mind. Nobody's asking these folks to be Congress supporters or big-time liberals. Support BJP all you want.

Just acknowledge the realities you can see for your own eyes and call a spade a spade.

Lol..I got you mixed up with Major sahib lol..I'm getting on a bit.

Yeah they can't seem to acknowledge what even the Hindu community are now saying..we just had a joint conference outside our main Jamia mosque..I'll see if incan post the vid..

 

[RexRex]

The only thing we're certain of is that this is a clash between the hindutva hooligans from india and islamist thugs of pakistan and nobody knows who started it, supposedly it began with the cricket match. It's a matter of he said-she said, who do we believe ?

 

[RexRex]

Meanwhile, prominent rightwingers have latched onto this to boost their anti-immigration stance and portray it as a 'culture deficiency'.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hundreds of young Muslim + Hindu men, wearing masks or balaclavas, are in violent running street battles against each other night after night for 3 weeks.<br><br>Not in India or Pakistan.<br><br>Here in Leicester.<br><br>This must be the "cultural enrichment" we've heard so much about. <a href="https://t.co/li49tbwJ6e">pic.twitter.com/li49tbwJ6e</a></p>— Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1571427937483735040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Meanwhile, prominent rightwingers have latched onto this to boost their anti-immigration stance and portray it as a 'culture deficiency'.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hundreds of young Muslim + Hindu men, wearing masks or balaclavas, are in violent running street battles against each other night after night for 3 weeks.<br><br>Not in India or Pakistan.<br><br>Here in Leicester.<br><br>This must be the "cultural enrichment" we've heard so much about. <a href="https://t.co/li49tbwJ6e">pic.twitter.com/li49tbwJ6e</a></p>— Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1571427937483735040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

She should request football games between Man U and Liverpool be run without a police presence, then we could see how culturally enriched the white Brits are.

 

[Pascal Gambit]

Unluckily for.them we actually have vid evidence and police are making arrests. They were surveillance the crowds through three days of incidents. They have police reports from May till now. If these sanghis think just because the home secretary is Indian they are now in charge theybhave another thing coming. This time the Muslim community played it smart (in general other than that idiot who ripped off the flag) and took videos and spoke to journalists. This is the way to fight this evil. We will not bow down to you..that is the message to Modis dogs..

By the way there was a massive gurdwara and Hindu temple near that demo and a masjid..all within walking distance..these junglies will be dealt with..

This is precisely how it should be dealt with but unfortunately it's inevitable that some mindless thugs will take matters into their own hands. To wit, in London there are numerous messages flying around on messaging platforms, where the names and addresses of the fascist hindutva goons who travelled to Leicester from London are being sought by those affiliated with Black, Arabs, Somalian and Pakistani gangs amongst others. I have friends living in Wembley and East London (large Hindu communities) and they say the fear amongst the Hindu community is palpable, especially as they're well aware of what will transpire if the above materialises. Moreover, there's a genuine concern that these gangs will target upcoming religious Hindu festivals and the fact that the police have very little control of the streets in London could lead to violence on an huge scale.

I dearly hope calmer heads prevail..

(Some articles of interest)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ould-spread-beyond-city-says-mp-claudia-webbe

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-leicester-riots-civil-war-hindu-nationalism

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-leicester-riots-muslims-victims-media-allowed-are

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/...ouncil-britain-call-action-hindutva-extremism