If Pakistan gives the following ultimatum to the US and the ROW in general vis a vis India?

[Savak]

For the US i think for starters we should tell them that we will halt all cooperation in Afghanistan.

But overall if Pakistan gives the world an ultimatum that if no order is given to India and Modi to withdraw his forces from Kashmir and to roll back each and everything he has done in Kashmir within a weeks time, Pakistan will fire a significant amount of nuclear missiles in India without fearing for its existence and what will happen to it.

Can this work? Will the rest of the world actually take this threat seriously or will some countries be like they are actually seriously going to do it

Just debating this option for kicks right now

 

[Tiger96]

For the US i think for starters we should tell them that we will halt all cooperation in Afghanistan.

But overall if Pakistan gives the world an ultimatum that if no order is given to India and Modi to withdraw his forces from Kashmir and to roll back each and everything he has done in Kashmir within a weeks time, Pakistan will fire a significant amount of nuclear missiles in India without fearing for its existence and what will happen to it.

Can this work? Will the rest of the world actually take this threat seriously or will some countries be like they are actually seriously going to do it

Just debating this option for kicks right now

Interesting.

I won't debate on the reaction from ROW, leave it to others but shouldn't such a threat invite strong opposition from many people in Pakistan itself ? If Pakistan fires then India will fire back and I think a lot of people in Pakistan wouldn't want to sacrifice their lives for the cause of Kashmiris.

Atleast for a such threat to be considered serious, Pakistan Government will have to get the whole country united behind them and I don't think it's possible or is it?

 

[Sachin136]

If Pakistan does say that, then it will become the laughing stock of the world once again (if it isn't already).

 

[RanveerSingh]

For the US i think for starters we should tell them that we will halt all cooperation in Afghanistan.

But overall if Pakistan gives the world an ultimatum that if no order is given to India and Modi to withdraw his forces from Kashmir and to roll back each and everything he has done in Kashmir within a weeks time, Pakistan will fire a significant amount of nuclear missiles in India without fearing for its existence and what will happen to it.

Can this work? Will the rest of the world actually take this threat seriously or will some countries be like they are actually seriously going to do it

Just debating this option for kicks right now

Is not Pakistan would be giving a great excuse to Modi to go for first strike??

 

[msb314]

For the US i think for starters we should tell them that we will halt all cooperation in Afghanistan.

But overall if Pakistan gives the world an ultimatum that if no order is given to India and Modi to withdraw his forces from Kashmir and to roll back each and everything he has done in Kashmir within a weeks time, Pakistan will fire a significant amount of nuclear missiles in India without fearing for its existence and what will happen to it.

Can this work? Will the rest of the world actually take this threat seriously or will some countries be like they are actually seriously going to do it

Just debating this option for kicks right now

Bhai be realistic - what you are saying will severely endanger the very existence of Pakistan as a democratic nation...

Option 1 will do us no good either and it is in our best interests to maintain good relations with the US after some encouraging signs recently.

Kashmir is a lost cause - the only realistic option we have to to legitimately declare PoK as our province and establish the LOC as an internationally recognized border. End the Kashmir debate for once and for all...

 

[Lonewarrior]

India played its card, now its our turn to play, how and when, time will tell...
one should never go to the war in haste...

 

[Markhor]

OP is in fantasy land.

None of these are viable options.

 

[pakistani pride]

LOL. Just stop the obsession with Kashmir. Pakistan needs to become a strong country and then the rest will follow.

Look at Germany and Japan after WW2. Look how they have risen.

PAK needs to work really really hard but nothing is impossible if you believe.

 

[JaDed]

Lol what?

“But overall if Pakistan gives the world an ultimatum that if no order is given to India and Modi to withdraw his forces from Kashmir and to roll back each and everything he has done in Kashmir within a weeks time, Pakistan will fire a significant amount of nuclear missiles in India without fearing for its existence and what will happen to it.”

So basically you nuke Kashmir as well? What lol...

 

[Hitman]

It would surely provide some comic relief to the rest of the world if Pakistan says something like that. A perfect case of a monkey with a gun it would be.

 

[Varun]

Forget about Kashmir.

Those guys have bored both of us enough.

When you obsess over something day and night (Kashmir, Palestine etc) these threads are the result.

 

[warcry]

it is really now or never for kashmir.
pakistan can either fight for kashmir, or forget about it.

it is too late to say 'oh we must build our credibility and our economy' etc etc.

by that time there wont be anything left to save.

surely the peaceniks must understand, that war with india is inevitable, if not for kashmir, then for our water supply, for the BJP is aiming at abrogating the indus water treaty next.

may as well roll the dice and hope we get lucky.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The OP lives in canada, so if India and Pakistan nuke each other, he is fine.

 

[sweep_shot]

Pakistan shouldn't do something like this. It is unrealistic.

Nuclear war is not a joke.

 

[Savak]

The OP lives in canada, so if India and Pakistan nuke each other, he is fine.

I didn't say do it. I said make them believe you will do it and carry the capability to do it as well

 

[Savak]

Must take the fight to India, BCCI. I am a firm believer in David vs Goliath

 

[Napa]

I didn't say do it. I said make them believe you will do it and carry the capability to do it as well

You do realize that if you really convince the US that Pakistan is serious about launching 200 nukes at India... the rational US response would be to launch 50 nukes to completely wipe out Pakistan so that there is less of a chance of a nuclear winter that would wipe out most of humanity.

 

[Savak]

You do realize that if you really convince the US that Pakistan is serious about launching 200 nukes at India... the rational US response would be to launch 50 nukes to completely wipe out Pakistan so that there is less of a chance of a nuclear winter that would wipe out most of humanity.

Why would the US be bothered about what India and Pakistan do to each other?

 

[Hitman]

I didn't say do it. I said make them believe you will do it and carry the capability to do it as well

Which of the 2 things will happen after that? -

1. The international community would beg Pakistan not to do such a thing, and in the process accept all their demands.

2. The international community would teach Pakistan a lesson that would serve as a reminder to all nuclear powered nations never to mess with the idea of using their nukes.

 

[Josh]

Bhai be realistic - what you are saying will severely endanger the very existence of Pakistan as a democratic nation...

Option 1 will do us no good either and it is in our best interests to maintain good relations with the US after some encouraging signs recently.

Kashmir is a lost cause - the only realistic option we have to to legitimately declare PoK as our province and establish the LOC as an internationally recognized border. End the Kashmir debate for once and for all...

This! Both countries have wasted lots of money over wars and both have significant investment in their part of administered Kashmir. LOC should be made a permanent border and after a few years when peace returns make the borders open with minimal formality. India and Pakistan can together rule the world with trade and market potential.

 

[Rudi hater]

Bhai be realistic - what you are saying will severely endanger the very existence of Pakistan as a democratic nation...

Option 1 will do us no good either and it is in our best interests to maintain good relations with the US after some encouraging signs recently.

Kashmir is a lost cause - the only realistic option we have to to legitimately declare PoK as our province and establish the LOC as an internationally recognized border. End the Kashmir debate for once and for all...

You can keep your option to yourself only Kashmiris will decide what they want as promised by the UNSC reolutions. Shame on you for calling POK to Azad Kashmir. You sound like an Indian. For those Indian who think they have conqured kashmir make no mistake Modi made the biggest mistake of his life. Kashmir will get its freedom.

 

[Rudi hater]

This! Both countries have wasted lots of money over wars and both have significant investment in their part of administered Kashmir. LOC should be made a permanent border and after a few years when peace returns make the borders open with minimal formality. India and Pakistan can together rule the world with trade and market potential.

Excuse me, who gave you that right to decise make LOC a permanent border? The very reason this issue is there is due to the fact that the Kashmiris have been neglected and never been asked as promised by Nehro/UN what do they want. This issue will be settled if both India and Pakistan accept UN resolutions. By making LOC a permanent border, do you think that will solve the issue? how naive can you get?

 

[Napa]

Why would the US be bothered about what India and Pakistan do to each other?

A nuclear war, especially a larger nuclear war can result in a "nuclear winter" that would lead to widespread crop failure and famines all over the world, not just in Pakistan and India.

Read up about "nuclear winter", there are lots of sources.

 

[Rudi hater]

A nuclear war, especially a larger nuclear war can result in a "nuclear winter" that would lead to widespread crop failure and famines all over the world, not just in Pakistan and India.

Read up about "nuclear winter", there are lots of sources.

Hence sit down and talk like civilise people and not think Kashmiris are herd of goats or sheep. Simple answer to the problem is plebciste as per UN and Shimla accord recognised and signed by the both nations.

 

[Rudi hater]

Which of the 2 things will happen after that? -

1. The international community would beg Pakistan not to do such a thing, and in the process accept all their demands.

2. The international community would teach Pakistan a lesson that would serve as a reminder to all nuclear powered nations never to mess with the idea of using their nukes.

Thats why, we are where are coz Indian all always think that they have democracy but they dont. Amount of human rights abuses committed by Indian government on Kashmiris are ruthless and dicatorial. Civlise world will speak against such human right abuses.

 

[Sachin136]

Hence sit down and talk like civilise people and not think Kashmiris are herd of goats or sheep. Simple answer to the problem is plebciste as per UN and Shimla accord recognised and signed by the both nations.

Nope, India will continue to deal with Kashmir however they want. Pakistan can continue making threats on twitter.

 

[Rudi hater]

Nope, India will continue to deal with Kashmir however they want. Pakistan can continue making threats on twitter.

As a occupying force and getting their soldiers killed, we are here for long haul don't worry.

 

[Pete Rose]

Diplomacy, ie, where you need influence countries or ppl that are not in your control, (a) doesn’t work on ultimatums and (b) doesn’t work overnight.

This is quite possibly the worst method for countries to adopt

 

[ReverseHit]

Dil ko behlane ke liye....

Please tell me what makes lends you confidence that India won't strike first during that one week ultimatum period?

 

[Savak]

Dil ko behlane ke liye....

Please tell me what makes lends you confidence that India won't strike first during that one week ultimatum period?

They will do that when the world wide perception is that this is a bluff

 

[moghul]

For the US i think for starters we should tell them that we will halt all cooperation in Afghanistan.

But overall if Pakistan gives the world an ultimatum that if no order is given to India and Modi to withdraw his forces from Kashmir and to roll back each and everything he has done in Kashmir within a weeks time, Pakistan will fire a significant amount of nuclear missiles in India without fearing for its existence and what will happen to it.

Can this work? Will the rest of the world actually take this threat seriously or will some countries be like they are actually seriously going to do it

Just debating this option for kicks right now

Would you mind telling what grade are you in ?

 

[MP2011]

Would you mind telling what grade are you in ?

This.

OP is living in his own fantasy land.

 

[pillionrider]

Kashmir is a lost cause - the only realistic option we have to to legitimately declare PoK as our province and establish the LOC as an internationally recognized border. End the Kashmir debate for once and for all...

You can keep your option to yourself only Kashmiris will decide what they want as promised by the UNSC reolutions. Shame on you for calling POK to Azad Kashmir. You sound like an Indian. For those Indian who think they have conqured kashmir make no mistake Modi made the biggest mistake of his life. Kashmir will get its freedom.

In coming years, Kashmiris and Pakistanis are gonna start seeing the true nature of both their States

Lol what?

So basically you nuke Kashmir as well? What lol...

Maybe he thought they'll follow the shelling protocol of only shelling Jammu areas

As a occupying force and getting their soldiers killed, we are here for long haul don't worry.

from the comfort and safety of being miles away.

 

[rhony]

So far the nuclear threats weren't serious by GOP. If there is a serious threat, then the international community will descend upon Pak with mighty force. Sanctions will cripple Pak's economic conditions further. And most important of all, you will lose China's support. China doesn't want to associate themselves with the Jihadi mindset that "it's ok if I die, let me kill somebody else" .Iran atleast has oil and can survive with sanctions. Pak can't.

 

[rhony]

For the US i think for starters we should tell them that we will halt all cooperation in Afghanistan.

But overall if Pakistan gives the world an ultimatum that if no order is given to India and Modi to withdraw his forces from Kashmir and to roll back each and everything he has done in Kashmir within a weeks time, Pakistan will fire a significant amount of nuclear missiles in India without fearing for its existence and what will happen to it.

Can this work? Will the rest of the world actually take this threat seriously or will some countries be like they are actually seriously going to do it

Just debating this option for kicks right now

Pak is looking for aid to flow again from US. It's not a free favor to US to assist in Afg.

 

[Slog]

OP has always lived in some sort of logic less fantasy land.

And I’m not even including this thread to come to that conclusion

 

[uberkoen]

OP has always lived in some sort of logic less fantasy land.

And I’m not even including this thread to come to that conclusion

lol. Too funny. I know exactly what you mean.

 

[Afzal_K]

Stop being a filmi idiot and ROP - rest of paindus. The army is not on a suicide mission

 

[amvbfm]

OP has always lived in some sort of logic less fantasy land.

And I’m not even including this thread to come to that conclusion

He wants nuclear winter in la-la land.
But must give credit where its due, they are the most fun on this forum when you stop treating them seriously.

 

[RajBan]

For the US i think for starters we should tell them that we will halt all cooperation in Afghanistan.

But overall if Pakistan gives the world an ultimatum that if no order is given to India and Modi to withdraw his forces from Kashmir and to roll back each and everything he has done in Kashmir within a weeks time, Pakistan will fire a significant amount of nuclear missiles in India without fearing for its existence and what will happen to it.

Can this work? Will the rest of the world actually take this threat seriously or will some countries be like they are actually seriously going to do it

Just debating this option for kicks right now

That's the last thing you want Pakistan to say, forget about doing it. You are literally handing over game, set and match to Modi with that approach.

 

[RajBan]

All posters who are asking for war must be forced to stay in Pakistan or India to ensure that they go through the challenges of living in a 3rd world country irrespective of whether there is war or not.

Having foreign citizenship, enjoying 1st world living and then trying to propose a video game solution that people can enjoy from a distance. This is ******** at it's highest level.

 

[Diffusion]

There wouldn't be a Pakistan within 30 minutes of making that statement, let alone the few week ultimatum you're suggesting.

Literally every single nuclear missile on the planet (even from their alleged allies) would be pointed at the heart of Pakistan from that moment. Within a few weeks, there would be a mass land invasion and the entire country would be Afghanistan 2.0. Trump and his backers are looking for another war (hence the provocation and escalation with Iran), and disarming the only Islamic country with nuclear weapons would be a nice prize for Trump and his legacy.

 

[kingusama92]

For the US i think for starters we should tell them that we will halt all cooperation in Afghanistan.

But overall if Pakistan gives the world an ultimatum that if no order is given to India and Modi to withdraw his forces from Kashmir and to roll back each and everything he has done in Kashmir within a weeks time, Pakistan will fire a significant amount of nuclear missiles in India without fearing for its existence and what will happen to it.

Can this work? Will the rest of the world actually take this threat seriously or will some countries be like they are actually seriously going to do it

Just debating this option for kicks right now

The current Indo-Pak issue is about Kashmir and its right to self-determination. This means Pakistan is suggesting India is engaging in unlawful behavior towards innocent Kashmiris.

That's the basic gist of it.

Having just said all of this, Pakistan then turns around and warns of nuclear warfare on innocent Indian civilians? An attack that would also indirectly destroy the very Kashmiris they're fighting for.

You would have to question Imran Khan's sanity at that point.

 

[RajBan]

The current Indo-Pak issue is about Kashmir and its right to self-determination. This means Pakistan is suggesting India is engaging in unlawful behavior towards innocent Kashmiris.

That's the basic gist of it.

Having just said all of this, Pakistan then turns around and warns of nuclear warfare on innocent Indian civilians? An attack that would also indirectly destroy the very Kashmiris they're fighting for.

You would have to question Imran Khan's sanity at that point.

Imran Khan or Modi does not matter. It's the posters who propose these things need to get their head checked.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

The Americans react to receiving this ultimatum....