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India 12 Pakistan 0 in all World Cup events

I used to prefer our record, even our record in India vs India is fantastic, 20-9 I think.

But lets face it, so many trophies and beating us in every WC and add to that the fact is 72-50 is not even a big enough margin anymore, I mean if Pak and India play 12 games we will win 7-5. How is that significant enough to brag about? I'd rather have their record.

Saying that Indians need to admit that they feel the pain whenever we win any match outside the WC, laughing at it is clear lying.
 
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We feel the pain yar but thank goodness its not usually that bad. I remember driving through the roads of Mohali-Chandigarh right after semi win amd those scenes were CRAZY!!!! Nothing like that cpuld be seen on airtel/videocon/kitply cup wins.
 
Someone just claimed India refused to play in Sharjah in 90s?Lol.India played regularly in Sharjah in 90s.The ban on Sharjah came in 2000.

Secondly PCB refused to come to India in 1990 to play the Asia cup and then refused to come to India in 1991 and 1993.India then refused to tour Pakistan in 1995.Before cricketing relations were restored in 1997.

Some people need to read history if they were too young to witness it or else stop making baseless claims.

You are a credible source ? LMAO. Sorry but your opinion simply does not count . FFS you think Australasia-Cup is the most intense and greatest match ever played between Ind-Pak lol .....

You are the one that needs to do the research and tell me why Pak didnt tour India in the 90s despite being invited by BCCI.

I asked you guys do some research to bring a modicum of reality to your delusional and self-serving narrative.

Here is an excerpt from a short (albeit average quality and somewhat partial) Indian account on India - Pakistan cricket, Shadows Across the playing Field: 60 Years of India - Pakistan Cricket”

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Once Javed pulled off, IMO still the greatest victory in the history of ODI cricket, this ensued:

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Finally it dawned on Indian cricket that far from getting better, with addition of Waqar, Saeed, Aamir, etc to an already strong team, things were about to get worse.

There was but only one possible solution to this, throw a hissy-fit!

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So suddenly some of the best neutral umpires ever to officiate (e.g. Dennis “Dickie” Bird, David Shepherd, etc.) were “partial” or “not good enough” for India. Friday prayer breaks at Sharjah offered “unfair advantage to Pakistan.” Does that sound like there might be something wrong with these excuses? Of-course what followed was more some non-cricketing excuses.

The only possible way India could stop losing to Pakistan, was to stop playing them! They only made brief exceptions to this on neutral venues to ensure 96 world cup does not get jeopardized.

Yes Pakistan does not dominate India like that anymore, but India has NEVER dominated Pakistan in ODIs. Even if Pakistan has been weakened for non cricketing reasons recently, they would not run away like India did. I am a big believer in well fought defeats being more honorable than a win. That is why Karachi 2004 remains one of my favorite India - Pakistan matches of all time.

You can sell yourself stories about winning every Wednesday but what you will not live down, is how the only solution you found to the constant beatings, was to run away. How you did not not play Pakistan during its peak era.

And BTW most Pakistani fans on PP will likely be too young to have followed the events beyond last couple of decades. They also do not have the unique “witness from occupied land” context that Kashmiris do. So the fact that some of them may take these fantasy accounts of “Indian domination” seriously does not mean that is the whole story.
 
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Aamir, what is the source of this long paragraph giving facts ?

First ask him,

1.If India didnt play in Sharjah(They did BTW)why does it concern Pakistan?Sharjah isnt owned by PCB.

2.Why didnt Pakistan come to India to play the 1990 Asia cup?

3.Why didnt Pakistan come to play in India for the tours of 1991 and 1993 and 1994.The cited security fears.While all other teams toured India,like Eng/SA/SL/WI everyone but only Pakistan feared.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/80102.html
 
First ask him,

1.If India didnt play in Sharjah(They did BTW)why does it concern Pakistan?Sharjah isnt owned by PCB.

India did not just stop playing Pakistan in Sharjah, but they stopped playing bilaterally for 6-7 years.

2.Why didnt Pakistan come to India to play the 1990 Asia cup?

3.Why didnt Pakistan come to play in India for the tours of 1991 and 1993 and 1994.The cited security fears.While all other teams toured India,like Eng/SA/SL/WI everyone but only Pakistan feared.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/80102.html

How does the story from 1999 play into why India stopped playing Pakistan between 1990 - 1997?

Once again I am quoting from the book above:

"though it was Pakistan's turn to visit after the Indian tour of 1989-90 [to Pakistan], their hosts [India] chose not to find convenient to Offer them dates."


This is how Indian mass delusion works:

- "It was not India who stopped playing Pakistan at its peak for 7 years, it was Pakistan hiding from the mighty India."

- "Even WC pool matches have so much significance that they negate numerous losses head to head."

- In 2003 WC pool game, "Sachin gave Akhtar the greatest thrashing ever seen in the history of cricket, the innings also included greatest six ever hit in the history of cricket." Nevermind the fact that it was a shot which even a tail-ender would not be too proud of.

Etc. etc.
 
- In 2003 WC pool game, "Sachin gave Akhtar the greatest thrashing ever seen in the history of cricket, the innings also included greatest six ever hit in the history of cricket." Nevermind the fact that it was a shot which even a tail-ender would not be too proud of.

Etc. etc.

Probably you have taken it too far.. name me a tailender who wouldn't be proud of playing that shot.. while that wasn't the greatest shot ever, but to say that a tailender wouldn't be proud is laughable.

At least maintain some sanity in your argument.
 
India did not just stop playing Pakistan in Sharjah, but they stopped playing bilaterally for 6-7 years.



How does the story from 1999 play into why India stopped playing Pakistan between 1990 - 1997?

Once again I am quoting from the book above:

"though it was Pakistan's turn to visit after the Indian tour of 1989-90 [to Pakistan], their hosts [India] chose not to find convenient to Offer them dates."


This is how Indian mass delusion works:

- "It was not India who stopped playing Pakistan at its peak for 7 years, it was Pakistan hiding from the mighty India."

- "Even WC pool matches have so much significance that they negate numerous losses head to head."

- In 2003 WC pool game, "Sachin gave Akhtar the greatest thrashing ever seen in the history of cricket, the innings also included greatest six ever hit in the history of cricket." Nevermind the fact that it was a shot which even a tail-ender would not be too proud of.

Etc. etc.

I just quoted an article from ESPN cricinfo which is one of the most credible sources in cricket and far more credible then some random book you chose.Pakistan didnt play citing
"SECURITY" issues.That is why India didnt play in Pakistan in 1995.

A world cup match is ofcourse more important than some Sharjah Coca cola Pepsi Kitply cup match.

And regarding your description of Sachin's shot againist Akhtar,let me tell you that your view as an anonymous poster on PP matters ZERO when experts and former greats called that innings of Sachin a Masterclass.
 
Probably you have taken it too far.. name me a tailender who wouldn't be proud of playing that shot.. while that wasn't the greatest shot ever, but to say that a tailender wouldn't be proud is laughable.

At least maintain some sanity in your argument.

Yes hanging a bat out at a short wide ball and letting pace of the bowler carry the ball over third man would make even Don and Viv proud! Forget an international cricket player, even if I were to hit Shoaib like that I would have insight to realize that it was more Akhtar than me. I would only be proud if I hit a straight six or to deep-midwicket.

That begs the question has the indian god of cricket ever hit Akhtar for a proper six ever? I don't think he has.
 
This world cup undefeated streak is the greatest in sport, we all know the magnitude of pak v india rivalry and for them to have beaten us in every WC game is unreal. This streak is bigger then Undertakers undefeated wrestlemania streak and that was pre-determined!
 
This world cup undefeated streak is the greatest in sport, we all know the magnitude of pak v india rivalry and for them to have beaten us in every WC game is unreal. This streak is bigger then Undertakers undefeated wrestlemania streak and that was pre-determined!

You are an Indian!!!!
 
Yes hanging a bat out at a short wide ball and letting pace of the bowler carry the ball over third man would make even Don and Viv proud! Forget an international cricket player, even if I were to hit Shoaib like that I would have insight to realize that it was more Akhtar than me. I would only be proud if I hit a straight six or to deep-midwicket.

That begs the question has the indian god of cricket ever hit Akhtar for a proper six ever? I don't think he has.

Why was Shoaib taken out of the attack if all Sachin did was to hit some tailender shots or merely helped himself to Shoaib's pace? Has Shoaib Akhtar been taken out after a one over spell, before that or ever since?
 
Yes hanging a bat out at a short wide ball and letting pace of the bowler carry the ball over third man would make even Don and Viv proud! Forget an international cricket player, even if I were to hit Shoaib like that I would have insight to realize that it was more Akhtar than me. I would only be proud if I hit a straight six or to deep-midwicket.

That begs the question has the indian god of cricket ever hit Akhtar for a proper six ever? I don't think he has.

that six seems to haunt u more than it haunted shoaib:dav
 
Yes hanging a bat out at a short wide ball and letting pace of the bowler carry the ball over third man would make even Don and Viv proud! Forget an international cricket player, even if I were to hit Shoaib like that I would have insight to realize that it was more Akhtar than me. I would only be proud if I hit a straight six or to deep-midwicket.

That begs the question has the indian god of cricket ever hit Akhtar for a proper six ever? I don't think he has.

What according to you, was the best possible shot of that magical delivery from Akhtar ? Also, name me a tailender who would be not dreaming of playing that kind of shot.

Also that six wasn't alone.. it was followed by two crisp fours off the next two deliveries.

Come on, you made a few valid points in your posts. Don't ruin them all by these silly remarks.
 
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Sorry my bad Sachin absolutely owned Akhtar by hitting that amazing six! And the news reverberated around the world, it even made it to the news circuits here in America! No one could believe that an Indian god of cricket actually managed to hit the cricket ball over the third man boundary!!

/s

I did not mean morph this thread into a Sachin vs Akhtar debate, but I was mentioning a few examples of the self delusion arising out of compensation. And right on cue some of the Indian fans are providing more proof of it.

It may not be a good idea to start another doomed debate right after a schooling on who ran away to hide from whom!!
 
Sorry my bad Sachin absolutely owned Akhtar by hitting that amazing six! And the news reverberated around the world, it even made it to the news circuits here in America! No one could believe that an Indian god of cricket actually managed to hit the cricket ball over the third man boundary!!

/s

I did not mean morph this thread into a Sachin vs Akhtar debate, but I was mentioning a few examples of the self delusion arising out of compensation. And right on cue some of the Indian fans are providing more proof of it.

It may not be a good idea to start another doomed debate right after a schooling on who ran away to hide from whom!!

You are missing the point.. it wasn't that six alone.. but 6, 4, 4 and total 18 runs in that over which forced the captain to take Shoaib off. The assault made him nervous so much that he thought better take rest for sometime.
 
I asked you guys do some research to bring a modicum of reality to your delusional and self-serving narrative.

Here is an excerpt from a short (albeit average quality and somewhat partial) Indian account on India - Pakistan cricket, Shadows Across the playing Field: 60 Years of India - Pakistan Cricket”

Once Javed pulled off, IMO still the greatest victory in the history of ODI cricket, this ensued:


Finally it dawned on Indian cricket that far from getting better, with addition of Waqar, Saeed, Aamir, etc to an already strong team, things were about to get worse.


So suddenly some of the best neutral umpires ever to officiate (e.g. Dennis “Dickie” Bird, David Shepherd, etc.) were “partial” or “not good enough” for India. Friday prayer breaks at Sharjah offered “unfair advantage to Pakistan.” Does that sound like there might be something wrong with these excuses? Of-course what followed was more some non-cricketing excuses.

The only possible way India could stop losing to Pakistan, was to stop playing them! They only made brief exceptions to this on neutral venues to ensure 96 world cup does not get jeopardized.

Yes Pakistan does not dominate India like that anymore, but India has NEVER dominated Pakistan in ODIs. Even if Pakistan has been weakened for non cricketing reasons recently, they would not run away like India did. I am a big believer in well fought defeats being more honorable than a win. That is why Karachi 2004 remains one of my favorite India - Pakistan matches of all time.

You can sell yourself stories about winning every Wednesday but what you will not live down, is how the only solution you found to the constant beatings, was to run away. How you did not not play Pakistan during its peak era.

And BTW most Pakistani fans on PP will likely be too young to have followed the events beyond last couple of decades. They also do not have the unique “witness from occupied land” context that Kashmiris do. So the fact that some of them may take these fantasy accounts of “Indian domination” seriously does not mean that is the whole story.

Ind v Pak total matches by each Decade :

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...derby=start;team=6;template=results;type=team

according to your "Source" ... if we were so afraid and stopped playing against them in 1991 ... pls tell me how India ended up playing the most matches against Pak in the 90s ?. In the 80s we played only 30 matches. But played 45 matches in the 90s which is the highest. And also the W/L ratio actually went up in the 90s for Ind ... not to forget the most no.of wins in WC.

BTW we don't play them regularly even now and never play them in UAE or any neutral venue... so we are still afraid then ? You seem to avoid answering this question.

And any chance of answering cricketjoshila's question ?
 
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More and more Pakistani brothers have started respecting the streak. Its a reality, 22 years of showmanship.
 
Yes hanging a bat out at a short wide ball and letting pace of the bowler carry the ball over third man would make even Don and Viv proud! Forget an international cricket player, even if I were to hit Shoaib like that I would have insight to realize that it was more Akhtar than me. I would only be proud if I hit a straight six or to deep-midwicket.

That begs the question has the indian god of cricket ever hit Akhtar for a proper six ever? I don't think he has.

LOL! you should stop with sermons and actually pick up a bat and play cricket. Any club player understands how difficult it is to middle a fast bowler like that shot by Sachin. That bowl was over 150kmph, take into account the hype and occasion it was a very very risky shot which he executed to perfection. Speaks volumes of his confidence as a batsman nothing much. But I am afraid all this is perhaps greek to you.
 
Sorry my bad Sachin absolutely owned Akhtar by hitting that amazing six! And the news reverberated around the world, it even made it to the news circuits here in America! No one could believe that an Indian god of cricket actually managed to hit the cricket ball over the third man boundary!!

/s

I did not mean morph this thread into a Sachin vs Akhtar debate, but I was mentioning a few examples of the self delusion arising out of compensation. And right on cue some of the Indian fans are providing more proof of it.

It may not be a good idea to start another doomed debate right after a schooling on who ran away to hide from whom!!

Sarcasm noted, but you did not answer why Shoaib was taken off the attack after his first over. Unless the captain or Shoaib himself agreed that he was totally owned and was going to get another phainty, there was no reason Shoaib had to stop bowling after his first over. He wasn't seriously injured or something like that - as he came back to bowl eight overs later. They realized that if Shoaib would bowl his second over, he was in for the same treatment because Sachin was in an unbelievable form that day. Sachin did not just toy with Shoaib, he toyed with every bowler that day, his knock of 98 off 75 testifies that.
 
Since I am way over my quota of posts on this topic, lets agree to disagree on this. However I would recommend some more research/reading on the topic to find your own answers. Also on the Sachin - Akhtar topic you could dig up various old threads on the topic.

In general I enjoy these debates on PP since most of the time they are conducted in a relatively civil manner. Thanks to PP administrators for that, they have created a wonderful site that even fierce rivals can enjoy together.

There are no two people in the world who would agree on everything. We all disagree about some stuff and agree about some other stuff.

Most people on PP would agree that we all love cricket. We all have experienced the highs of wins and the lows of losses (albeit some more than others .... I'm kidding, I'm kidding :) ).

Lets leave at that.
 
Re: India 8 Pakistan 0 in all World Cup events

More and more Pakistani brothers have started respecting the streak. Its a reality, 22 years of showmanship.

It's a tremendous streak but most of the wins have been due to our pathetic choking than Indian brilliance you have just had the mental toughness over us in these games Mohali was a perfect example of this

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It's a tremendous streak but most of the wins have been due to our pathetic choking than Indian brilliance you have just had the mental toughness over us in these games Mohali was a perfect example of this

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Its very very tough to keep calm in these matches. What went wrong with Netherlands yesterday is the same thing that is hurting Pakistan against us in world cups. No one is inexperienced in T20s with these leagues being played everywhere yet the Dutch kept playing ridiculous shots when all they needed to do was just put bat on ball and run. If an ordinary forumer knows its that easy, surely the players know better, they just lose their mind under pressure. The biggest secret behind the streak is that Indians have learnt that all they need to do is execute the basics.
 
Since I am way over my quota of posts on this topic, lets agree to disagree on this. However I would recommend some more research/reading on the topic to find your own answers. .

all the research that needs to be done is done and presented in this thread ... seems like you dont want to admit to reality. The bottom line is this : Pak refused to tour India in the 90s and despite that Ind took the initiative to visit Pak in 97 when it was not really their turn to tour. Despite the on-off nature of rivalry the 90s saw the most no.of Ind-Pak contests compared to the decades before and after.
 
We played far more cricket against Pakistan with a shtty team and when you were pretty strong than we did in our golden age. Some fans have just gone insane.
 
All trophy cabinets pale in comparison to the streak's hall of grave. :imran :hafeez :afridi :malik :wasim :waqar
 
2015, another name would be added. :misbah #10-0

#2015



#RokSakoToRokLo
#AaneDo
 
Yes hanging a bat out at a short wide ball and letting pace of the bowler carry the ball over third man would make even Don and Viv proud! Forget an international cricket player, even if I were to hit Shoaib like that I would have insight to realize that it was more Akhtar than me. I would only be proud if I hit a straight six or to deep-midwicket.

That begs the question has the indian god of cricket ever hit Akhtar for a proper six ever? I don't think he has.

Dude you do know that he was practicing this shot in the nets before the world cup? Sachin always used to do these kinds of assessment before a tournament. Ball carries a long way in SA and he intentionally practiced upper cut a lot before the world cup instead of the regular square cut. Same way as he practiced hitting sixes when leg spinner bowls around the wicket before his face off with Shane Warne. You cannot call a well execute plan a fluke
 
Wonder what is going to happn to some Indian fans when the streak does end up broken? I mean do they have anything else over Pakistan at all?
 
We have a very underrated streak of our own against the Lankans which goes something like: 7:0 in proper ODI WC encounters. :afridi
 
Am sure India have won 9 games against us already in all World Cup events?
 
Wonder what is going to happn to some Indian fans when the streak does end up broken? I mean do they have anything else over Pakistan at all?

Have you realised, as of late when India beat Pak it's never such a big deal tbh but when Pak beat India the indians get hurt very very deeply.
 
Wonder what is going to happn to some Indian fans when the streak does end up broken? I mean do they have anything else over Pakistan at all?
Will still be 8-1. The wood will still be there if a little less tumescent. :moyo
 
Will still be 8-1. The wood will still be there if a little less tumescent. :moyo

Pretty sure no one will flaunt that number around. One loss and the little pedestal that the Indians have made themselves comfortable on will come crashing down.
 
Am sure India have won 9 games against us already in all World Cup events?

Yep, including the one where Pakistan couldn't hit the stumps in the 2007 T20.

9-0 in total, and it shall be 9-1 at the end of the month. Pity.
 
Yes hanging a bat out at a short wide ball and letting pace of the bowler carry the ball over third man would make even Don and Viv proud! Forget an international cricket player, even if I were to hit Shoaib like that I would have insight to realize that it was more Akhtar than me. I would only be proud if I hit a straight six or to deep-midwicket.

That begs the question has the indian god of cricket ever hit Akhtar for a proper six ever? I don't think he has.

He hit a dominant six and the only flakes you can grasp from it to protect your team's honour is whether the six was hit in a particular direction or not? ::J
 
Yep, including the one where Pakistan couldn't hit the stumps in the 2007 T20.

9-0 in total, and it shall be 9-1 at the end of the month. Pity.

Lol you're just saying that so you don't "jinx" India, you're a superstitious guy :)) But the reality is this is the WORST pak team ever in our history in the world cup tournament and you should be very very disappointed if your team fails to thrash us not even win the game but literally destroy pak. That's the reality.
 
Lol you're just saying that so you don't "jinx" India, you're a superstitious guy :)) But the reality is this is the WORST pak team ever in our history in the world cup tournament and you should be very very disappointed if your team fails to thrash us not even win the game but literally destroy pak. That's the reality.

Well, we're hardly better. Compare this lot to 2011 and 2003, and even 2007 and you can see the (grim) picture.
 
Yep, including the one where Pakistan couldn't hit the stumps in the 2007 T20.

9-0 in total, and it shall be 9-1 at the end of the month. Pity.

where Pakistan couldn't hit the stumps especially with no batsmen in front of them ;)
 
Well, we're hardly better. Compare this lot to 2011 and 2003, and even 2007 and you can see the (grim) picture.

That's beside the point whether or not how good you feel your team is especially in comparison to the class of 011,003 and 007 that's irrelevant you can speak of that in-terms of assesing your chances of actually winning the world cup tournament itself but we are looking at the game vs pak and when you compare the two teams India is in much better shape and may well reach the semis given their strength in the batting department these days having a good bowling attack is a bonus but with all the rule changes it's not such a big deal when you have so much depth in the batting department.
 
Aamir i totally agree with your narrative and arguments. Indians are failing to understand the main pont you raised, that indian government made sure indian cricket board suspend bilateral tours and gave PCB no assurances over security matters when BJP and shiv sena digged up their ugly heads to disrupt cricketing encounters.

Last indian poster posted that india played 45 matches in 1990s, my dear aamir was talking about BILATERAL TOURS not encounters in sharjah and multi nation tornaments that 90s era saw the most.

It's true that our world cup record is extremely poor against but our over record of ODI wins and wins in multi nation tornament FINALS is still outstanding which indians bitterly ENVY to their heart and soul !!!
 
Aamir i totally agree with your narrative and arguments. Indians are failing to understand the main pont you raised, that indian government made sure indian cricket board suspend bilateral tours and gave PCB no assurances over security matters when BJP and shiv sena digged up their ugly heads to disrupt cricketing encounters.

Last indian poster posted that india played 45 matches in 1990s, my dear aamir was talking about BILATERAL TOURS not encounters in sharjah and multi nation tornaments that 90s era saw the most.

It's true that our world cup record is extremely poor against arch rival enemy india but our over record of ODI wins and wins in multi nation tornament FINALS is still outstanding which indians bitterly ENVY to their heart and soul !!!
 
India's streak was started in Australia, ours will begin now... Thats the bottom line cause sachin is not here.
 
It will be 8-1 this time. I don't know why are people underestimating Pakistan. They are gonna surprise everybody. They will be starting with a win over India and at least reach the semi's
 
Steak wont break in my lifetime and I hope to win to a ripe old age.

Just accept it guys - India are a better team when it matters.

Their bowlers step up, their batsmen step up.

Ours soil themselves.
 
Steak wont break in my lifetime and I hope to win to a ripe old age.

Just accept it guys - India are a better team when it matters.

Their bowlers step up, their batsmen step up.

Ours soil themselves.

With the annual affair of WC/WorldT20/CT I fear the streak may catch up with us sooner or later.
 
^

That is crazy.

They should do what I do - dont watch. 03 was the last game I watched in full (P-I WC games). Not worth the trouble of watching Pak lose each time.
 
Wonder what is going to happn to some Indian fans when the streak does end up broken? I mean do they have anything else over Pakistan at all?
Even if the streak breaks in near future...there will be still a big margin left.....or is it in your mind that 1 win to end streak is equal to streak margin.
 
I dont care about 1992 loss we won the world cup that year who cares if lost to india
 
Lol you're just saying that so you don't "jinx" India, you're a superstitious guy :)) But the reality is this is the WORST pak team ever in our history in the world cup tournament and you should be very very disappointed if your team fails to thrash us not even win the game but literally destroy pak. That's the reality.

Well you were right, Shahzad916
 
Wonder what is going to happn to some Indian fans when the streak does end up broken? I mean do they have anything else over Pakistan at all?

You mean something like 10-1?
 
Congrats India. You managed to beat the Pakistani 'A' side. :yk
 
Well you were right, Shahzad916

Yep, would have been a huge upset if pak won. 10-0 to India what a record, Lesnar will have to play for Pakistan to end that streak. 10-0 is incredible, greatest streak in the history of any kind of profesional sport including sports entertainment :afridi
 
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