India (191 & 466) beat England (290 & 210) by 157 runs at the Oval to take a 2-1 lead in the series

[Savak]

Indians are the masters of bowling on flat pitches.
They have won both London tests on flat pitches.
Bumrah was incredible today. Thakur overall deserved man of the match, batted brilliantly and took the crucial wickets of burns and root.

England bowlers arent as skillful as the Indian seamers.
Moeen proving to be a pie chucker at test level , Leach would have done far better than moeen.
England missed mark wood on this pitch as well.

Its not all gloom for England though. Woakes got 3 wickets on the flattest day 4 pitch in tests since 2018
Proving he is no longer a trundler who relies on swinging conditons. Hameed also looked really good.

This same England side will post 400-600 runs on average against Pakistan for fun. They have just been tortured against a world class Indian bowling line up

 

[MenInG]

England head coach CHRIS SILVERWOOD is full of praise for India and Jasprit Bumrah for their bowling display on day five...

"We turned up full of confidence that we could pull off a result here as well, but I think what we saw was an excellent Indian team, an excellent bowling performance from them. They have shown if you give them half a sniff then they will kick the door open.

"I thought the spell from Bumrah was excellent, and it made life very difficult for us. Obviously we do need to improve on certain things, but I've got to give credit to India today, they were excellent."

 

[Devadwal]

The biggest threat to a series win is now Covid.

 

[Devadwal]

Virat Kohli said "Bumrah told, give me the ball and he bowled 6 consecutive overs and took 2 wickets - that was changing moment in the game on Day 5".

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Only woods was fit.

Broad out
Olly stone out
Joffra out
Saqib out
Stokes.

England are missing world class performers

This argument holds no weight because all of England's fast-bowlers barring Broad and Curran have averaged in the 20s (or less) in this series. And yet India are still up 2-1. Infact Broad has statistically been England's worst performing bowler with a bowling average of 88 in the one match he has played.

Serious questions need to be asked of the batting which is entirely dependent on Root.

 

[Yk313]

ENG have done really well to get past 150. On the Day 4 thread I had commented that ENG would implode around the 150 mark but they have done quite well given the mental baggage they were carrying into the 4th innings.

 

[dildilpak]

Only woods was fit.

Broad out
Olly stone out
Joffra out
Saqib out
Stokes.

England are missing world class performers

Thats a pathetic excuse for a team playing in home conditions. I bet if the Indian bowling lineup was completely changed they would still win at home (& even away like they did in Australia). The biggest problem is that the English team is made of bits & pieces players who dont belong in red ball cricket. Whatever happened to their famed first class cricketing setup - taps running dry there?

 

[Savak]

This series has proven how superior this Indian team is and how over rated this English team is

 

[Mamoon]

The greatest Asian Test team of all time.

Incredible team. Incredible mentality.

 

[Napa]

Only woods was fit.

Broad out
Olly stone out
Joffra out
Saqib out
Stokes.

England are missing world class performers

Only Stokes is clearly better than those who played, the rest are not.

Joffra is fast but the Indians would have handled him.

 

[Devadwal]

Overconfidence??

 

[Saj]

One hell of a performance this especially given they were 99 runs behind on first innings and in real trouble.

The bowling unit combined really well and the Indian batsmen came good when it mattered in the 2nd innings.

 

[Buffet]

Never give up mentality in the Indian team reminds me of Aus team. Sure, they are not in the same class, but the mentality is similar.

Indian batting is not doing great, but they won two tests in Eng after being behind by a big margin. This self-belief helped them to draw a test in Aus and then also win at Gaba.

Credit goes to Kohli for transforming the team and bringing the culture of fast bowling.

 

[Napa]

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Overconfidence??

He was right. If they swept NZ and India they would indeed have been well prepared for the Ashes

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Safe to assume its a series win right?

Wonderful wonderful performance.

The moment reverse swing happened, it was game over for England.

Bummy bhai showing why he is the CHAMP.

 

[Cricanalyst1]

Guess I was wrong!

 

[Buffet]

Safe to assume its a series win right?

Wonderful wonderful performance.

The moment reverse swing happened, it was game over for England.

Bummy bhai showing why he is the CHAMP.

Definitely not. Two wins came due to tail-adding runs. India needs to beef up batting. Can not rely on tail adding runs.

If not for rain then Indian may have been 3-1 up series done by now.

 

[MP2011]

Only woods was fit.

Broad out
Olly stone out
Joffra out
Saqib out
Stokes.

England are missing world class performers

These excuses make this win even sweeter!

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Definitely not. Two wins came due to tail-adding runs. India needs to beef up batting. Can not rely on tail adding runs.

If not for rain then Indian may have been 3-1 up series done by now.

I am unclear what you saying.

I was talking about bowling

 

[MP2011]

Thats a pathetic excuse for a team playing in home conditions. I bet if the Indian bowling lineup was completely changed they would still win at home (& even away like they did in Australia). The biggest problem is that the English team is made of bits & pieces players who dont belong in red ball cricket. Whatever happened to their famed first class cricketing setup - taps running dry there?

We had Shami, Bumrah and Jadeja missing from our team against England at home! We didn't sook and instead won that series 3-1!

 

[Buffet]

I am unclear what you saying.

I was talking about bowling

My comment was about the series win being safe.

 

[MP2011]

Even in this test, Shami was missing from our lineup and we didn't pick Ashwin. So there you go.

 

[Jeetlodil]

The greatest Asian Test team of all time.

Incredible team. Incredible mentality.

Pakistan under Wasim was much better

 

[Walawalkar]

Congratulations India
What a comeback...Memorable Win

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

My comment was about the series win being safe.

5th test will be rained out I am told.

If not, the Eng could possibly level it.

It's in their preferred ground.

 

[Buffet]

5th test will be rained out I am told.

If not, the Eng could possibly level it.

It's in their preferred ground.

I won't rely on weather predictions for Eng.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

We had Shami, Bumrah and Jadeja missing from our team against England at home! We didn't sook and instead won that series 3-1!

dildilpak is not your average sour grapes guy.

He raises a good point.

The different between Indian and English team is that even with our best players out, we still field a test class XI.

English team has way too many hacks. When their main players leave, they become incredibly weak.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I won't rely on weather predictions for Eng.

I would prefer the 5th test happening myself.

But I am being told it will be a draw for sure.

Can someone confirm otherwise?

 

[Last Monetarist]

I would prefer the 5th test happening myself.

But I am being told it will be a draw for sure.

Can someone confirm otherwise?

The forecast is only bad for the first day for now, it's getting dry through the weekend. We should have four days of cricket at least.

Then again, English weather forecasts aren't reliable.

 

[drubwrubnat]

Well done India, I believed in you. Cheers, good day to all

 

[Ab Fan]

I would prefer the 5th test happening myself.

But I am being told it will be a draw for sure.

Can someone confirm otherwise?

It won't be a draw. Confirming otherwise

 

[MP2011]

dildilpak is not your average sour grapes guy.

He raises a good point.

The different between Indian and English team is that even with our best players out, we still field a test class XI.

English team has way too many hacks. When their main players leave, they become incredibly weak.

My reply wasn't a retort to him but to that Manunited guy!

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The forecast is only bad for the first day for now, it's getting dry through the weekend. We should have four days of cricket at least.

Then again, English weather forecasts aren't reliable.

Ok thanks mate.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

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Overconfidence??

He wanted India and NZ to clean sweep England.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Well done India, I believed in you. Cheers, good day to all

You really did.

Cheers.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You really did.

Cheers.

Don't forget Snakeeyes 2.0 aka [MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION].

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Don't forget Snakeeyes 2.0 aka [MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION].

Legendary [MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION].

 

[battler]

Safe to assume its a series win right?

Wonderful wonderful performance.

The moment reverse swing happened, it was game over for England.

Bummy bhai showing why he is the CHAMP.

Nothing is safe to assume with this Indian team
Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to bits with the win. Manchester will most likely have more swing and Indian batsmen will be caught like dear in headlights.
We are better in batting and bowling in flat conditions whereas in swinging conditions the bowling holds its own but batting is dreadful.
I just hope this win doesn't provide kohli with the excuse of playing Rahane again. But knowing him he most likely will.

 

[Buffet]

I am not sure what makes me legendary, lol.

With 360 runs, a team batting last is not likely to win the game. That's what happened. Win here would have been due to some very good batting and its rare.

 

[Mainul]

Just amazing. As I said yesterday, I won't back this English team to chase even 220 against this Indian side. Congratulations Indians. You should be really proud for your team. This team is special.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I am not sure what makes me legendary, lol.

With 360 runs, a team batting last is not likely to win the game. That's what happened. Win here would have been due to some very good batting and its rare.

There was a chance for draw. This pitch was still pretty to bat on. But this line up relies on one player. He went missing in both the innings on possibly the flattest pitch of the series. 150 is there for his taking.

 

[dravidthewall]

I enjoyed every moment of this test match for 5 full days.Really entertaining. Well played india.

 

[Buffet]

There was a chance for draw. This pitch was still pretty to bat on. But this line up relies on one player. He went missing in both the innings on possibly the flattest pitch of the series. 150 is there for his taking.

There was definitely a chance for a draw, but a strong start by openers gave hope that they can even win. It was probably better than Eng thought that there was some chance otherwise total defensive batting would have made it very hard to get 10 wickets. They could have kept kicking Jadeja and apart from Bhumrah, no one really bowled a spell to put Eng in trouble.

It was collectively good bowling, but Bhumrah spell could have picked up few wickets against most batsmen. Outside of that Eng could have survived.

Anyway, series has been intesrting due to two fragile batting otherwise one side could have totally dominated.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Nothing is safe to assume with this Indian team
Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to bits with the win. Manchester will most likely have more swing and Indian batsmen will be caught like dear in headlights.
We are better in batting and bowling in flat conditions whereas in swinging conditions the bowling holds its own but batting is dreadful.
I just hope this win doesn't provide kohli with the excuse of playing Rahane again. But knowing him he most likely will.

I dont want to start the topic of how we are winning inspite of poor fundamentals.

 

[MenInG]

On a flat fifth day track at The Oval, India bowled magnificently to register a 157-run win and go 2-1 up in the series with a game to go.

After suffering an innings defeat at Headingley, India made a terrific comeback into contest, recovering from 127/7 at one stage on the opening day to secure only their second Test victory at The Oval. The win took them to the top of the ICC World Test Championship 2021-23 table.

The stage was set for a tantalizing final day at The Oval after the England openers fought back in the final session of the penultimate day. The equation was simple – England needed another 291 runs to win, India needed 10 wickets.

Rory Burns and Haseeb Hameed resumed on an overnight 77/0, and continued their partnership. Burns brought up his fifty, but fell to Shardul Thakur off the very next ball, nicking one to Rishabh Pant behind the stumps.

Hameed received a massive lifeline at 55 when Mohammed Siraj dropped a sitter at mid-on. It was a rare rush of blood from the opener, who attempted to take Jadeja on against the spin, but Siraj failed to gobble up a straightforward catch.

Dawid Malan was the next batter to be dismissed as Hameed tried to sneak a single after playing the ball to covers. However, substitute fielder Mayank Agarwal was quick to latch on to the ball and an inch-perfect throw to Pant resulted in Malan falling short of his crease.

Thereafter, captain Joe Root and Hameed took England to lunch at 131/2, adding just 54 runs to their overnight score while also losing two wickets.

India broke through right after the break with the wicket of Hameed. Jadeja reaped the reward for hitting the rough consistently and got one to spin past the outside edge of Hameed to rattle the stumps.

Bumrah got in on the act next, castling Ollie Pope to scalp his 100th wicket in Test cricket. He then sent Bairstow back to the pavilion for a duck with a trademark yorker. England continued to lose wickets as Moeen Ali gloved one to short leg off Jadeja for nought, the home side sliding to 147/6.

Root was once again left to resist with the tail. The skipper and Woakes put on a 35-run partnership, but the stubborn stand came to an end a few overs before tea. Kohli's decision to hold off on taking the second new ball and bring on Thakur turned out to be a masterstroke as Root played on to his stumps.

Thereafter, it was a matter of time. Umesh Yadav was brought back into the attack for the final over before tea and snared the wicket of Chris Woakes, KL Rahul completing a good low catch at short mid-wicket.

Armed with the new ball shortly after Tea, Umesh struck again, hitting Craig Overton on the elbow and onto the stumps, before he wrapped up the innings, inducing an edge off Jimmy Anderson with a short one.

The final Test will begin in Manchester on 10 September.

 

[MenInG]

 

[Nikhil_cric]

5-0 to Australia in the Ashes unless there is inclement weather.

 

[mystical man]

The greatest Asian Test team of all time.

Incredible team. Incredible mentality.

Imran khan pakistan team of the 90s says hello ...

 

[Jeetlodil]

5-0 to Australia in the Ashes unless there is inclement weather.

I hope all are innings defeat too. End of test cricket after that

 

[Jeetlodil]

There was a chance for draw. This pitch was still pretty to bat on. But this line up relies on one player. He went missing in both the innings on possibly the flattest pitch of the series. 150 is there for his taking.

That one player isnt anything special too. See how he gets exposed against Australia.

 

[MenInG]

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[sindhiboy]

This same England side will post 400-600 runs on average against Pakistan for fun. They have just been tortured against a world class Indian bowling line up

I'll be surprised if eng manage to score 400 in Pakistan. Will be really interesting to see how that series goes.
Though it is more than a year away from now and anything can happen in that time

 

[Manunited18]

England are not a settled side. Constantly changing it, be it bowling and batting, at least india have had the luxury of keeping the batting line together even though it's a ordinary one.

 

[shah_1]

Grear win India

Best team in the world .

 

[Nikhil_cric]

England are not a settled side. Constantly changing it, be it bowling and batting, at least india have had the luxury of keeping the batting line together even though it's a ordinary one.

England dont have the players. Doesnt matter who they select

 

[Saurav]

I would prefer the 5th test happening myself.

But I am being told it will be a draw for sure.

Can someone confirm otherwise?

India can produce result in 3 days either way

 

[Rajdeep]

Great win by India. Congrats to my fellow Indian posters and other well wishers of Indian cricket

I couldn't resist and went to Oval to watch the final session. Amazing scenes and great experience.

Next Stop - Manchester.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

India can produce result in 3 days either way

Haha yes.

Hope its not that kind of result.

 

[Mesozoic]

Pathetic decision to give Rohit the MOTM. I mean he batted brilliantly for his hundred but Thakur deserved it much more than him.

Rohit - 138 runs in 2 innings

Shardul - 117 runs in 2 innings + 3 huge wickets of Pope (81), Burns (50) and Root.

 

[Rajdeep]

Pathetic decision to give Rohit the MOTM. I mean he batted brilliantly for his hundred but Thakur deserved it much more than him.

Rohit - 138 runs in 2 innings

Shardul - 117 runs in 2 innings + 3 huge wickets of Pope (81), Burns (50) and Root.

Normally batsman gets MOM if he scores a century. Like how KL Rahul got in Lords due to his 100.

 

[Napa]

Pathetic decision to give Rohit the MOTM. I mean he batted brilliantly for his hundred but Thakur deserved it much more than him.

Rohit - 138 runs in 2 innings

Shardul - 117 runs in 2 innings + 3 huge wickets of Pope (81), Burns (50) and Root.

I would go as far as saying that Thakur pulled India out off the batting funk it had gone into after the previous Test. His first innings turned the series around for India.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Great Victory. Saw till 150-6 and went to bed with full hope that we are winning this one.
A bit gutted for Root, Great Bat in great form this year. Played Well in India and here in England but not much to show in terms of results for him from team perspective.

His greatest challenge will be the Ashes. Aussies are seething after India loss and they will come hard on anyone touring next. Anyways always motivated for them against the old enemy.

 

[MP2011]

England are not a settled side. Constantly changing it, be it bowling and batting, at least india have had the luxury of keeping the batting line together even though it's a ordinary one.

Another excuse.

As for us, it's not a luxury, it's a curse which are living with since long.

 

[Chrish]

If not for rain then Indian may have been 3-1 up series done by now.

Dunno.. India had to chase 200+ in first game which isn’t insignificant number and both team’s batting is fragile. India could have rolled out too.

 

[MP2011]

And if people so love giving excuses for England's loss, well we were without services of our 3 coaches for much of this test, the head coach, the fielding coach and the bowling coach.

 

[Buffet]

Dunno.. India had to chase 200+ in first game which isn’t insignificant number and both team’s batting is fragile. India could have rolled out too.

India had 160 runs to get with 9 wickets left when rain stopped the play. I would give them 60-70% chance of getting it. But you are right, both teams have fragile batting and you can't really bank on them getting 200+ easily.

 

[PakLFC]

Another great win for India coming back from a 100 run deficit after the first innings to win by such a margin shows their mettle. Only thing to say is very well played, boy's playing well boy's working hard and all that!! England's batting is worse then Pak's, it is just awful losing ten wicket in a day twice in the series.

 

[Chrish]

India had 160 runs to get with 9 wickets left when rain stopped the play. I would give them 60-70% chance of getting it. But you are right, both teams have fragile batting and you can't really bank on them getting 200+ easily.

160 is plenty to get rolled out in 4th inning. Would be close to 50-50 for me.

 

[sharmaji]

Looks like India has become the second most watched opposition in England. India is behind only Australia.

 

[Devadwal]

Rohit Sharma said Shardul Thakur deserves the Man Of The Match award. He scored two fifities and took wickets, he worked so hard.

 

[CricVet]

No matters what you call this Eng batting line up, their bowling is strong enough to make their team very strong at home. India has beaten a very tough side at their home. Congratulations! If they won the series, this would be a far better win vs AU which is not as strong as Eng at home.

As I stated at the end of the day 1, Eng had to play for the time, not the runs. 50-100 runs lead means nothing if you give away 3rd day pitch to a pretty strong batting order. The credit to Ind for taking full advantage of the easy 3rd day wicket, built the momentum, and never looked back.

 

[Robert]

England dont have the players. Doesnt matter who they select

Of course not having Stokes is hurting them.

They don’t have the batters, but they could make more sensible selections with the bowling. There were two fast bowlers available for this match but they went in with four medium pacers and India scored 400+.

 

[Robert]

That one player isnt anything special too. See how he gets exposed against Australia.

He hasn’t been exposed against Australia. He has hit big centuries. Just not in Australia yet, where he has had to do constant repair jobs because the top order is so weak. But he still averages 40 there and I back him to get hundreds this winter, given the form he is in.

 

[sindhiboy]

Of course not having Stokes is hurting them.

They don’t have the batters, but they could make more sensible selections with the bowling. There were two fast bowlers available for this match but they went in with four medium pacers and India scored 400+.

This pitch turned gradually turned into a flat subcontinent wicket which suited india. Wood for Overton was the obvious necessary change. In hindsight, England could have also played a second spinner leach in place of anderson.

Moeen ali is not a test quality bowler anymore, he is in the team for his batting which is not worth keeping him in the side for. He may retire in tests after being hammered in the ashes yet agiain

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Of course not having Stokes is hurting them.

They don’t have the batters, but they could make more sensible selections with the bowling. There were two fast bowlers available for this match but they went in with four medium pacers and India scored 400+.

That only sounds good in hindsight though. Pace is overrated in England. The best bowlers in English conditions are accurate 130-140 kph bowlers. Matk Wood hardly has a decent record in England to speak of.

Considering the Day 1 conditions, it was the perfect attack to dismiss India for 191. Accurate high release bowlers bowling 130 +. Wood would not have been able to maintain pressure and India would have scored a bit more.

Nobody could have predicted that the pitch would flatten out the way it did.

 

[Robert]

This pitch turned gradually turned into a flat subcontinent wicket which suited india. Wood for Overton was the obvious necessary change. In hindsight, England could have also played a second spinner leach in place of anderson.

Moeen ali is not a test quality bowler anymore, he is in the team for his batting which is not worth keeping him in the side for. He may retire in tests after being hammered in the ashes yet agiain

I agree with all of this. Leach is our only test class spinner.

Except I would not take Moeen to Australia where his confidence was shattered and he never really got it back.

 

[Robert]

Wood would not have been able to maintain pressure and India would have scored a bit more.

Nobody could have predicted that the pitch would flatten out the way it did.

Because he is not used properly. He doesn’t get the new ball and is told to bombard the batters instead of pitch it up.

The BBC commentators predicted that the pitch would get easier to bat on.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Because he is not used properly. He doesn’t get the new ball and is told to bombard the batters instead of pitch it up.

The BBC commentators predicted that the pitch would get easier to bat on.

He is not good enough bowling fuller and at his pace, he cannot t exploit the swing and seam on offer. England dobt have fast bowlers who are versatile enough to perform in both helpful and flat conditions . It's one or the other. Besides, Indian batsmen generally average a lot less against high release bowlers like Overton and Robinson rather than someone like Wood. I'm sure that was a factor in Overtons selection.

 

[Sir Alex]

No matters what you call this Eng batting line up, their bowling is strong enough to make their team very strong at home. India has beaten a very tough side at their home. Congratulations! If they won the series, this would be a far better win vs AU which is not as strong as Eng at home.

As I stated at the end of the day 1, Eng had to play for the time, not the runs. 50-100 runs lead means nothing if you give away 3rd day pitch to a pretty strong batting order. The credit to Ind for taking full advantage of the easy 3rd day wicket, built the momentum, and never looked back.

Australia has a spectacular home record in the last few years against all teams except India. India is on a different plane as a team since 2018, with their achilles heel being NZ.

 

[Robert]

He is not good enough bowling fuller and at his pace, he cannot t exploit the swing and seam on offer. England dobt have fast bowlers who are versatile enough to perform in both helpful and flat conditions . It's one or the other. Besides, Indian batsmen generally average a lot less against high release bowlers like Overton and Robinson rather than someone like Wood. I'm sure that was a factor in Overtons selection.

It didn’t work.

I think Silverwood misread the pitch and played safe. England go in with four medium pacers and a mediocre offie on a flat deck and lose. I have seen it so many times.

Wood was certainly good enough bowling full in the WC. England were crying out for a bowler who could do something different in India’s second dig. I have a lot of belief in Wood and would always give him the new ball.