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India (209/8) narrowly defeat Australia (208/3) by 2 wickets in the 1st T20I

Ahmed216 said:
No amount of bashing Pak team will alleviate the pain of losing in final of rigged WC at home.
All of a sudden ODI is not an important format. And Indian fans have started milking test series wins against depleted Aussies from few years ago.
But we have seen videos of Indians crying in stadium and on the streets.
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Any ICC event is important - and right now the ODI WC followed by T20 WC and CT are the pinnacles.. WCs are all about handling pressure and nerves and no question Ind has not been upto the mark there. But the round robin format is the best as everyone plays everyone and also Ind and Pak play a combined 17 games which gives high viewership.. The 2024 T20 WC should be a good indicator as to how teams are progressing. Unlike ODI WC's - Ind qualifying for T20 WC sf is not a given as Ind group has Ind,Pak,WI and only 2 teams can progress.
 
Ahmed216 said:
There's nothing to defend. Pak is not a good side. But you are forced to compare your team to an average side to lessen your pain. Not happening bro. With the kind of resources and power India have 10 years of not winning WC is shameful to say the least. Now wait for next WC in India before even dreaming of a world title
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Nah you said paine was rubbish captain then how Australia beaten every other teams so easily in Australia?? Only they lost to india so Paine was rubbish just becouse India beat them twice? Accept that india played better cricket that's why they won like Australia Play better cricket in world cup Final and they won.
 
Devadwal said:
Nah you said paine was rubbish captain then how Australia beaten every other teams so easily in Australia?? Only they lost to india so Paine was rubbish just becouse India beat them twice? Accept that india played better cricket that's why they won like Australia Play better cricket in world cup Final and they won.
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Paine was a makeshift captain. He was a specialist captain.

Do you think Paine was the best Australia had? They had far better players. Josh Inglis is better. Wade is better.

Australia are now #1 under Cummins (WTC holder). They are settled.
 
sweep_shot said:
Paine was a makeshift captain. He was a specialist captain.

Do you think Paine is the best Australia have? They have far better players. Josh Inglis is better. Wade is better.
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But with same Paine how were Australia won against all the other teams ? This is my point
 
Ahmed216 said:
There's nothing to defend. Pak is not a good side. But you are forced to compare your team to an average side to lessen your pain. Not happening bro. With the kind of resources and power India have 10 years of not winning WC is shameful to say the least. Now wait for next WC in India before even dreaming of a world title
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Agree with this being an Ind supporter. Ind should not be comparing to Pak. They should be a trendsetter beating the likes of Aus and Eng. Ind aim should be like the performance of the Aus side from 99-2010 - try for total dominance with the resources it has. Not having a single ICC title in 10 years is a blight. With the chaos and corruption in PCB - pak cricket team has actually done pretty decent to be honest.
 
sweep_shot said:
Gaikwad was run-out without facing a delivery.

IND - 12/1 (1 over).
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Good riddance. Gaikwad is one of those tuk tuk statpadders. Unless Ind gets rid of guys like him completely - they will not win win major events. In KO games you have to be fearless be aggressive and not be scared. Gaikwad is like klrahul. Whwn the heat is really on - they buckle. Never understood this catching up SR business in T20s. You need to attack from ball 1 period.
 
Devadwal said:
Nah you said paine was rubbish captain then how Australia beaten every other teams so easily in Australia?? Only they lost to india so Paine was rubbish just becouse India beat them twice? Accept that india played better cricket that's why they won like Australia Play better cricket in world cup Final and they won.
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As I said earlier India played great cricket in Aus. 2020 series victory with a young side was the greatest series victory I can think of.
But Tim Paines Australia was not the best Australian team. It was a team in transition.
Australia under Cummins will be a much bigger challenge for India.
And if bumrah shami are in form they are capable of winning again
 
Kishan has regressed so much as a batter

He was a natural free flow player of pace
 
Pakistan needs to replicate this template, , Babar and Riz needs booted from the starting lineup or at least from openers slot. Can't accommodate accumulators in this format.
 
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Kroll said:
Pakistan needs to replicate this template, go hell for leather from the off, Babar and Riz needs booted from the starting lineup or at least from openers slot. Can't accommodate accumulators in this format.
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Fakhar and Saim should open.
 
SKY showing what he is capable of against mediocre teams and if you are a Pakistani or Bangladeshi bowler, you must fear from him.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Correct me if I am wrong but his stats against Pakistan are not good? :inti
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My favorite Naseem shah dismissal is SKY in Asia cup T20.
Minnow basher was trying to fetch a 145kmph inswinger from off stump to hit it over fine leg. It was a joy to watch the stump cartwheel
 
topspin said:
Averages 14 against Pakistan
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SKY failing to score against Pakistan doesn't make the Pakistan bowling attack any good. That attack pretty much costed more than half of the games in the World Cup leading to early exit of Pakistan from the tournament.

It only means that he has failed to cash on that mediocre bowling attacks yet.

There are two facts here :-

1. SKY is good only vs mediocre attacks.
2. Pakistan bowling attack is pretty mediocre.

1-2 failures vs mediocre attacks or 1-2 success vs good attacks don't change these facts.
 
That front line attack of Hazlewood, Starc, Cummins , Zampa is of an extremely high quality when they are all in rhythm.

Take even one of them out and they don't have anywhere near enough quality to replace any of them
 
If this is a T20 WC sf or final - not sure if Ind can bat this way. And that's been Ind's problem. They can do this in 99 out of100 games but in that 1 ko game they falter. Its a mental block that they need to get out of.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
That front line attack of Hazlewood, Starc, Cummins , Zampa is of an extremely high quality when they are all in rhythm.

Take even one of them out and they don't have anywhere near enough quality to replace any of them
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These are just bilateral games. Intensity isn't the same.

Aussies tend to do better during big games. They haven't lost a single final in 21st century (2003 WC, 2007 WC, 2006 CT, 2009 CT, 2015 WC, 2021 World T20, and 2023 WC).
 
sweep_shot said:
These are just bilateral games. Intensity isn't the same.

Aussies tend to do better during big games. They haven't lost a single final in 21st century (2003 WC, 2007 WC, 2006 CT, 2009 CT, 2015 WC, 2021 World T20, and 2023 WC).
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It's not about intensity. They don't play full strength attack in bilateral LOIs often.
 
sweep_shot said:
These are just bilateral games. Intensity isn't the same.

Aussies tend to do better during big games. They haven't lost a single final in 21st century (2003 WC, 2007 WC, 2006 CT, 2009 CT, 2015 WC, 2021 World T20, and 2023 WC).
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Forgot to add WTC 2023.

Nikhil_cric said:
It's not about intensity. They don't play full strength attack in bilateral LOIs often.
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That is true and that's how it should be.

For a top team, bilateral series should be about testing bench strengths and rotating key players.
 
Ab Fan said:
SKY failing to score against Pakistan doesn't make the Pakistan bowling attack any good. That attack pretty much costed more than half of the games in the World Cup leading to early exit of Pakistan from the tournament.

It only means that he has failed to cash on that mediocre bowling attacks yet.

There are two facts here :-

1. SKY is good only vs mediocre attacks.
2. Pakistan bowling attack is pretty mediocre.

1-2 failures vs mediocre attacks or 1-2 success vs good attacks don't change these facts.
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I think it's because Pakistan has shuper fast bowling. SKY is a fine player but I vant to see SKY hit even more sixes against shuper fast bowling like Rohit.
 
Good crowd in but I've noticed the intensity of dancing in the stands isn't the same today. Last 2 months it was on a different level.

What has changed recently? I think it's because there's less eye catching players to watch. No Rohit and Kohli etc.
 
Guys stick to discussion of match. For other topics we have other threads. Discuss those topics there
 
What's up with Australia backing stonis and Abbott? Both are pretty average medium pacers surely they could have gone with fast bowlers
 
topspin said:
Good crowd in but I've noticed the intensity of dancing in the stands isn't the same today. Last 2 months it was on a different level.

What has changed recently? I think it's because there's less eye catching players to watch. No Rohit and Kohli etc.
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very rarely venues like Vizag get to host a match...so the atmosphere will be different in such places and also this is T20 format
 
7sins said:
What's up with Australia backing stonis and Abbott? Both are pretty average medium pacers surely they could have gone with fast bowlers
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Stoinis is an all rounder. Playing pure bowlers will weaken their batting. Its a gamble.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Stoinis is an all rounder. Playing pure bowlers will weaken their batting. Its a gamble.
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Stonis was crap throughout the WC Abbott is bang average would have been better if they have gone with full bowlers than half bowlers and batter
 
Aus bowling after Hazle/Starc/Cummins is bang average.

Ellis, Abbott are below average bowlers. Behrendorf is decent.
 
sweep_shot said:
These are just bilateral games. Intensity isn't the same.

Aussies tend to do better during big games. They haven't lost a single final in 21st century (2003 WC, 2007 WC, 2006 CT, 2009 CT, 2015 WC, 2021 World T20, and 2023 WC).
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They lost the 2010 final
 
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