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India [289/3] defeat Australia [286/9] by 7 wickets and win 3rd ODI; Win series by a 2-1 margin

Shaw
Mayank
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Vihari or Rahul or gill if blooded in
Pant
Jaddu Ashwin or bhuvi depending on conditions
Ishant
Shami
bumrah

This is by far the best team in the world if selected. India should win the world test championship with this team above.

So even in SC you'll play one spinner?

In India a spinner should replace Ishant
 
What makes you think he is not good enough to bat at 6?

He can't shepard the team for longer periods if there is a collapse like 50/4 or something. Not matured enough to do that role. If he is keeping and Pandya is not playing we have no choice but to play him there. If Pandya plays the Pant should bat at 7.
 
He can't shepard the team for longer periods if there is a collapse like 50/4 or something. Not matured enough to do that role. If he is keeping and Pandya is not playing we have no choice but to play him there. If Pandya plays the Pant should bat at 7.

So Pandya can shephered the team?Weird logic
 
He can't shepard the team for longer periods if there is a collapse like 50/4 or something. Not matured enough to do that role. If he is keeping and Pandya is not playing we have no choice but to play him there. If Pandya plays the Pant should bat at 7.

He did it when his team was 80-3. Scored a counter attacking 70(61 balls), did his job very well.

Doesn't matter who keeps, Rahul and Pant both should be made vital cog in the middle order which will strengthen India's middle order batting.
 
So Pandya can shephered the team?Weird logic

Neither of them can. Between the two Pandya is better. Pant is reckless. If KL Rahul keeps and there is no Pandya i would have anyone like Gill at 6. Pant is not in the class of either Gill or Prithvi shaw or Agarwal.
 
He did it when his team was 80-3. Scored a counter attacking 70(61 balls), did his job very well.

Doesn't matter who keeps, Rahul and Pant both should be made vital cog in the middle order which will strengthen India's middle order batting.

No way. Gill is a pedigree batsman. He should be way up in the pecking order. This guy is nothign compared to him.
 
I genuinely like chahal he’s a brave bowler. I’ve never seen him cry after getting hit for runs and his confidence doesn’t get shatttered. Look he’s so relax and calm and happy even though he’s being left out for several games. They had questions I’ve his fielding he’s been outstanding as a sub. The same kuldeep while in the side is not even running to the ball kohli was fuming at him he even forgets about the team when he is not bowling well he only thinks about himself hence loses concentration in the game anyways they can keep playing kuldeep eventually chahal will play.

chahal missing out due to he's absolutely did with bat, and TBH he's not a good fielder..
 
Neither of them can. Between the two Pandya is better. Pant is reckless. If KL Rahul keeps and there is no Pandya i would have anyone like Gill at 6. Pant is not in the class of either Gill or Prithvi shaw or Agarwal.

You usually need hitters at 6 which he does.If required he can play ground shots too

Gill is a top order player
 
No way. Gill is a pedigree batsman. He should be way up in the pecking order. This guy is nothign compared to him.

Pant is not fighting with Gill for a slot. Gill is a top order batsmen and he will have to wait for more time. He is 20 and still raw.

You again didn't answer. Pant played a very good counter attacking knock when his team was 80-3. So, he can shepherd the team better than Pandya. Most importantly at 6, his job will be to take the game completely away from opposition after the platform is laid by top 4. Well, Pant can do that brilliantly even today also.

We have found the guys to fill up the middle order slots - Iyer, Rahul, Pant and Pandya. If they don't then we can think of replacement. Right now this is the best we can have in the middle order.
 
You usually need hitters at 6 which he does.If required he can play ground shots too

Gill is a top order player

Exactly. Pant will play the role of no.6 efficiently. Iyer, Rahul, Pant and Pandya have booked the slots for now in the middle order IMO.
 
Pant is not fighting with Gill for a slot. Gill is a top order batsmen and he will have to wait for more time. He is 20 and still raw.

You again didn't answer. Pant played a very good counter attacking knock when his team was 80-3. So, he can shepherd the team better than Pandya. Most importantly at 6, his job will be to take the game completely away from opposition after the platform is laid by top 4. Well, Pant can do that brilliantly even today also.

We have found the guys to fill up the middle order slots - Iyer, Rahul, Pant and Pandya. If they don't then we can think of replacement. Right now this is the best we can have in the middle order.

There is no such thing as "top order batsman" . Tendulkar batted at 5 or 6 when he started. Sehwag batted at no.7. Laxman has batted at no.6. You cannot typecast players and deprive them of chances at the right time. YOu have to pick the best and play .
 
Pant is not fighting with Gill for a slot. Gill is a top order batsmen and he will have to wait for more time. He is 20 and still raw.

You again didn't answer. Pant played a very good counter attacking knock when his team was 80-3. So, he can shepherd the team better than Pandya. Most importantly at 6, his job will be to take the game completely away from opposition after the platform is laid by top 4. Well, Pant can do that brilliantly even today also.

We have found the guys to fill up the middle order slots - Iyer, Rahul, Pant and Pandya. If they don't then we can think of replacement. Right now this is the best we can have in the middle order.

Dhoni was doing time and again. Pant is as unreliable as afridi.
 
There is no such thing as "top order batsman" . Tendulkar batted at 5 or 6 when he started. Sehwag batted at no.7. Laxman has batted at no.6. You cannot typecast players and deprive them of chances at the right time. YOu have to pick the best and play .

Bhai, this doesn't mean you play all the top order batsmen from 1 to 7, lol!

There is a reason why Agarwal hasn't got a game yet in ODIs.
 
Dhoni was doing time and again. Pant is as unreliable as afridi.

Pant is far better and more reliable bat than Afridi. He has test hundreds in England and Australia. He will come good. He is the best you can have at 5 or 6 right now.

You won't get complete package like Dhoni as replacement.
 
Bhai, this doesn't mean you play all the top order batsmen from 1 to 7, lol!

There is a reason why Agarwal hasn't got a game yet in ODIs.

Yes there is a reason. Reason is stupidity. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it is right. Guy is averaging like 50 in list A with a strike rate of 101 in domestic over 81 matches. Pant list A average 29 at strike rate of 103 over 53 matches. Who you think is likely to do better?
 
Both Steve Smith and Rohit Sharma made sparkling centuries in Bengaluru, but it was the Indian who finished on the winning side, leading his team to a 2-1 series win.

Smith, having run out his captain Aaron Finch early on, dug in to bring up his ninth ODI century, his 131 off 132 balls setting India a target of 287 on Sunday, 19 January. Continuing the dazzling display of batting at the M Chinnaswamy stadium, Rohit struck 119 in 128 balls, and skipper Virat Kohli chipped in with 89, as the hosts chased down the target with seven wickets to spare in 47.3 overs.

With Shikhar Dhawan hurting his shoulder in the fifth over of the day and sidelined for the rest of the match, Rohit was reunited with KL Rahul – who had a chance to open the innings after coming in at No.3 and No.5 in the first two matches, while also standing in as wicket-keeper. The vice-captain was on the ball right away, dominating the scoring as India raced to 61/0 in the first 10 overs.

The introduction of spin gave Australia a vital breakthrough: Ashton Agar trapped Rahul in front on review, and although the new pair of Rohit and Kohli weren't unduly troubled, the run-rate slowed down. Josh Hazlewood, playing his first ODI in India and his first match in the format in 14 months, was especially miserly, conceding just 10 runs in his first five overs.

But, having settled in, the duo built a useful partnership of 137 and gave themselves the chance to hit out with wickets in hand. The part-time bowling of Finch and Marnus Labuschagne was punished, Rohit lapping up the short balls and sending them soaring into the stands. His century, his eighth against Australia, came with a single to third man.

Zampa finally got the breakthrough, having him caught in the deep going for another big one. But with Kohli having loosened his arms with a couple of beautiful fours off Pat Cummins to go past his half-century, India remained on course.

The skipper missed out on a hundred, but with Shreyas Iyer too clearing the ropes, there were no hurdles as India wrapped up an entertaining series win.

Earlier, the Indian bowlers struggled to find their lines after Australia chose to bat, but Australia weren't able to fully capitalise. David Warner was thrown by the movement to nick Mohammed Shami to the wicket-keeper, while Finch was caught short after Smith pulled out of a run, to leave the hosts at 46/2.

Labuschagne and Smith, though, combined for another special partnership, going at a brisk rate and showing delectable timing against spin. They had guided their side to 173 in the 32nd over when the a sharp piece of fielding from the home captain and strong bowling pulled things back.

Smith and Labuschagne were involved in another useful partnershipSmith and Labuschagne were involved in another useful partnership
Kohli, at cover, plucked a drive from Labuschagne soon after the batsman had reached his maiden fifty. Ravindra Jadeja had his second of the over when the experiment to send Mitchell Starc at No.5 lasted just three balls.

Alex Carey gave Smith company as he brought up a well-earned century, having fallen just short the previous game. The former skipper stepped up the scoring once he crossed three figures, a wristy helicopter six over deep square leg the highlight of his innings. But, excellent death bowling by Shami, who finished with four wickets, ensured the tourists were kept to under 300 – a total that proved below par.


https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1578701
 
Yes there is a reason. Reason is stupidity. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it is right. Guy is averaging like 50 in list A with a strike rate of 101 in domestic over 81 matches. Pant list A average 29 at strike rate of 103 over 53 matches. Who you think is likely to do better?

Agarwal will do better at the top order. But same can't be said in the middle order. We saw how Sharma had fared in middle order and you spoke about Tendulkar. The legend himself wasn't good in the middle order. Not all openers do well in middle order.

Pant has test hundreds in England and Australia. He is reliable enough to find a slot at 5 or 6 in Indian ODI lineup.

Agarwal has a chance at top now that Dhawan is injured. He deserves a go.

But I still stay with my point. The best middle order India can have right now in ODIs is Shreyas Iyer, KL Rahul, Rishabh Pant and Hardik Pandya. Rest up to the players themselves if they can make a mark or not. If they can't then they can be replaced.
 
Agarwal will do better at the top order. But same can't be said in the middle order. We saw how Sharma had fared in middle order and you spoke about Tendulkar. The legend himself wasn't good in the middle order. Not all openers do well in middle order.

Pant has test hundreds in England and Australia. He is reliable enough to find a slot at 5 or 6 in Indian ODI lineup.

Agarwal has a chance at top now that Dhawan is injured. He deserves a go.

But I still stay with my point. The best middle order India can have right now in ODIs is Shreyas Iyer, KL Rahul, Rishabh Pant and Hardik Pandya. Rest up to the players themselves if they can make a mark or not. If they can't then they can be replaced.

Rohit was a middle order batsman for his state not opener. They just tried as opener for India. For almost all states good batsmen would bat up the order. Nobody will bat at 6 or 7 for their state if they are really good. How come someone with average of 29 in List A will do better at any position.
 
You can't write this Indian team off after one loss. I think it's a trend they been following losing the first game and then thrashing the opponent's in the rest of series e.g. Bangladesh, West Indies and now Australia
 
‘We did it little bit differently,’ Virat Kohli explains how Team India navigated their run-chase against Australia
India captain Virat Kohli said Sunday’s chase against Australia was about being calculative than flamboyant and called it a very satisfying win for the three partnerships by the top-order batsmen. Praising Rohit Sharma’s match-winning century, he said his experience came to the fore.

“We did it a little bit differently from what we have done in the past. We knew Australia would try and get one of us early (with Shikhar Dhawan missing due to shoulder injury). It was one of the most calculated partnerships between Rohit and me. We have had some flamboyant partnerships, but this was calculated. I had to play second fiddle to Rohit because he was settled. Then I had to take over in the middle when Rohit got out and then have that partnership with Shreyas Iyer. We had three back-to-back partnerships, so it was a very satisfying win,” said Kohli.

Sharma and Kohli have a terrific record against Australia and they maintained it in the decider, helping India win with a partnership of 137 runs. He admitted Australia brings the best out of both him and Sharma because they know they will be challenged the most.

“Yes, we have played a lot against Australia (hence the numbers are comparatively higher). We know Australia comes hard against the top players. It brings the best out of us against Australia. It’s about not taking a backward step.”

With the win at the M Chinnaswamy Stadium, India avenged their defeat last March when they had lost the series 3-2. Talking about the lessons learnt, he said last year India had taken things for granted a bit. “After winning the first two, we thought we were definitely going to win one out of the last three. Against Australia, it is about body language and intent, it’s about making things happen. Unless you play with that intent, they are going to run over you.”

Australia skipper Aaron Finch called Sharma among the five best ODI batsmen of all time. “Virat is probably the best one-day batsman of all time. Rohit Sharma is among the top five ODI batsmen of all time.

“With Shikhar Dhawan not there, they had to shuffle the order a bit and to still be able to get the job done by their two most accomplished players is a sign of their quality,” said Finch.

According to the Australia captain, India’s death bowling was the difference here and in the second ODI in Rajkot. “Shami absolutely nailed his yorkers and their death bowling in the last two matches was unbelievable.

“We felt if we were able to post 300 or 310, it would have brought our spinners into play. We probably lost just one wicket (too many). Just that momentum kept getting stalled every now and then.”
https://m.hindustantimes.com/cricke...t-australia/story-vKu7UdkkjeMkV2XMJwSIeI.html
 
Still Middle order is not tested as suppose to be.

If they really want to test middle order they have to rest Dhawan, Kohli, Rohit. Even then it is no guarantee. New guys could do well at the top of the order. Before world cup no.4 spot was a big conundrum. Now they have Iyer. No.5 will be taken by Rahul when Dhawan plays. So we just need no.6
 
If they really want to test middle order they have to rest Dhawan, Kohli, Rohit. Even then it is no guarantee. New guys could do well at the top of the order. Before world cup no.4 spot was a big conundrum. Now they have Iyer. No.5 will be taken by Rahul when Dhawan plays. So we just need no.6

That's the big problem Kohli and Rohit are playing useless matches against WestIndies,Seriously?, Right after Wc Kohli should have been sacked as a captain but no in subcontinent a player is bigger than team.
I would still take series loss over win,at least we are taking things seriously and it takes time to set by giving them chances and back them.
 
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If they really want to test middle order they have to rest Dhawan, Kohli, Rohit. Even then it is no guarantee. New guys could do well at the top of the order. Before world cup no.4 spot was a big conundrum. Now they have Iyer. No.5 will be taken by Rahul when Dhawan plays. So we just need no.6

new guys are even better. mark my words.
Shaw
Mayank
gill
etc would smash teams with ease. So middle order won't be tested.
 
That's the big problem Kohli and Rohit are playing useless matches against WestIndies,Seriously?, Right after Wc Kohli should have been sacked as a captain but no in subcontinent a player is bigger than team.
I would still take series loss over win,at least we are taking things seriously and it takes time to set by giving them chances and back them.

will take
 
Rohit was a middle order batsman for his state not opener. They just tried as opener for India. For almost all states good batsmen would bat up the order. Nobody will bat at 6 or 7 for their state if they are really good. How come someone with average of 29 in List A will do better at any position.

That's not the point.This is international level and not state level cricket. Agarwal is a top order and might not succeed as middle order just like Rohit failed as middle order. The best we have is Pant for no 6 and he is very good. He has started getting runs as well for his team in ODIs and tests and that is what matters.
 
That's not the point.This is international level and not state level cricket. Agarwal is a top order and might not succeed as middle order just like Rohit failed as middle order. The best we have is Pant for no 6 and he is very good. He has started getting runs as well for his team in ODIs and tests and that is what matters.

We cannot arbitrarily decide the career of Mayan Agarwal based on how Rohit Sharma did there. Only way you will find that out is by giving him chance there. By the time Indian top order gets some vacant places he will be like 30 plus.
 
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We cannot arbitrarily decide the career of Mayan Agarwal based on how Rohit Sharma did there. Only way you will find that out is by giving him chance there. By the time Indian top order gets some vacant places he will be like 30 plus.
Agree with that. Its a shame that Mayank is yet to make his LoI debut while so many hacks have made merry.

Same goes for Gill except that he was played in 2 ODIs in NZ but that was an year back!
 
All of India's great ODI openers were middle order bats when they started their careers. Likes of Tendulkar, Ganguly, Sehwag, Rohit all used to bat in middle order when they started off. Only Dhawan has been an opener through and through.
 
Finch says lack of set batsmen at the death cost Australia

Australia captain Aaron Finch rued the absence of a set batsman in the slog overs of the third one-day international against India, which his team lost by seven wickets in Bengaluru, to concede the three-match series 2-1.

Australia stumbled from a strong platform, set up by a third-wicket partnership of 127 between Steve Smith and Marnus Labuschagne, to end up with 286/9 – a below-par score at the Chinnaswamy surface.

In all, Australia lost five wickets in the last 10 overs. The regular strikes meant that the last three overs yielded just 13 runs to cap the total at well under 300.

"I think probably guys not getting through to those last couple of overs [hurt us]," Finch said. "I think in the last two games, we have had the bowlers batting for the majority of the last few overs. We saw in Rajkot, the damage that KL [Rahul] could do in the back end because he was a settled batter. I think that's an area we just missed a couple of tricks. Just not having an in batter being in and having faced 20 or 30 balls to get us deeper and get us to the back end.

Part of the reason for that was the relentless accuracy of India’s fast bowlers at the death. In both Rajkot and Bengaluru, Mohammed Shami, Jasprit Bumrah and Navdeep Saini uncorked a stream of yorkers, leaving the batsmen with zero room to react.

It brought about the dismissal of Pat Cummins in identical fashion in both games, clean bowled off the first ball he faced, against Mohammed Shami. “Credit to India, their death bowling in the last few games was exceptional,” Finch said. “Shami was nailing his yorkers, Saini in the last two games, and Bumrah. In both games, they were exceptional. You can look at where we could have improved, but also you've got to give some credit to India. They were unbelievable at the death.”

Australia tried to catch India off guard by bumping Mitchell Starc up to No.5, ahead of Alex Carey, Ashton Turner and Ashton Agar, to counter India’s spinners. But the move failed, as Starc perished three balls after the Smith-Labuschagne partnership was broken, for a duck, allowing India to widen their opening.

Explaining the move, Finch said: "We felt as though it was an aggressive move, especially against the left-arm spin. He can smack a few, and if he went out there and hit a couple of sixes, we were hoping it could potentially change their tactics and they would have to bring one of their quicks back earlier. That just didn't happen.

“Myself and Andrew [McDonald, the head coach for the tour] spoke about it before the first game. We felt as though Mumbai probably wasn't the right surface, but felt here was, especially against Jadeja, the left-arm spinner spinning it into him. He just didn't hit it out of the middle. I still support the move 100 per cent, it just didn't come off today. But it was definitely an aggressive move.”
https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1579972
 
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