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India 39/1 at end of Day 4 as they chase 420 to win the 1st Test against England

pillionrider said:
Pant was against it. But Kohli ignored him because of Ashwin's persistence. Won't blame Virat for this.
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Yeah Kohli should ignore Ashwin from here on.

Ashwin is a review waster.

The point being Kohli has to put his foot downbfor such frivolous requests... He goes for it, but cos he hopes it would work.
 
pillionrider said:
Have England ever scored 250 in 30 in test cricket?

Ever scored 250 in 60 in tests?

:rabada2
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Don't know. The more pressing question is — have you ever managed to write up a full post on PakPassion without lapsing into painfully dull pro-Ind trolling?
 
RainStopsPlay said:
Looks like someone has hacked Mamoon's account. :D
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Lol no.. He was always like this.

Just that opposition is England, he is saying this.

Had it been Pakistan, he would have been how India threw away wickets and will come back strongly. :))

Fact is if Mamoon was an Indian, most Indian posters would be fighting with him... But luckily for them, he he is a Pakistani so they end up agreeing with him when he riles up his fellow mates. :P

With that being said, the arrogance part which he mentions is true.
 
England needs to hit out here , there is no point in wasting overs here , just look to get 120 quicks runs here
 
Eng has such a huge lead. Just put some quick runs here.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Lol no.. He was always like this.

Just that opposition is England, he is saying this.

Had it been Pakistan, he would have been how India threw away wickets and will come back strongly. :))

Fact is if Mamoon was an Indian, most Indian posters would be fighting with him... But luckily for them, he he is a Pakistani so they end up agreeing with him when he riles up his fellow mates. :P

With that being said, the arrogance part which he mentions is true.
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Mamoon is a popular poster here , we need all sorts of character to make a play , we need to live with me because he would soon be the poster with second most posts on this forum , very soon !
 
Just when I think India will be buried, another wicket falls. :))

I think we need to fight hard to eke out a draw here.

Unless England magically collapse which I am not sure they will.
 
Joe Root is the BIG wicket that India need (obviously).

I wonder though, is it in India's best interest to get England all out or let them bat as long as they want to draw the game?
 
Oligochaetes said:
Joe Root is the BIG wicket that India need (obviously).

I wonder though, is it in India's best interest to get England all out or let them bat as long as they want to draw the game?
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The more England bat , the better for India here
 
Justcrazy said:
Mamoon is a popular poster here , we need all sorts of character to make a play , we need to live with me because he would soon be the poster with second most posts on this forum , very soon !
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I love Mamoon bhai.

Just that he too is a human with his own biases like all of us.

Sometimes his bias (against Pakistan and SA......and For india and England) gets the better of him.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Just when I think India will be buried, another wicket falls. :))

I think we need to fight hard to eke out a draw here.

Unless England magically collapse which I am not sure they will.
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England collapsing could mean the pitch is dicey and India wont find it easy to bat on it...
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I love Mamoon bhai.

Just that he too is a human with his own biases like all of us.

Sometimes his bias (against Pakistan and SA......and For india and England) gets the better of him.
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Mamoon is shrewd person , he knows how to get mileage and popularity, he is like Bollywood actor , uses PR skills to stay in limelight , Mamoon has that way of posting that keeps him in limelight
 
Once again a captain has put his side under unnecessary pressure by not enforcing the follow-on. It's not as if the England bowlers will get a day's rest here. The argument for the follow-on is more compelling the less time there is remaining in the match.

Nonetheless, England need to bat aggressively for the next hour or two. Any dithering at the crease only plays into India's hands.
 
Oligochaetes said:
England collapsing could mean the pitch is dicey and India wont find it easy to bat on it...
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The trick is to hope for England collapse due to their poor batting and not tough pitch... I :P

Either ways work cut out for India.

This is a toughie... Let's hope we pull through.... We have the ability tho...
 
Oligochaetes said:
Joe Root is the BIG wicket that India need (obviously).

I wonder though, is it in India's best interest to get England all out or let them bat as long as they want to draw the game?
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Sometimes in these situations, it is ironically in the interests of the batting team to get bowled out. It takes the tricky declaration question out of the equation for the captain, and it continues to move the game forward.

If England bat long and slow again, it probably favours India in this scenario — whereas in the first innings, this very situation favoured England.

Cricket is a funny old game, as they say.
 
Poms need to declare at some point of time , it will be interesting decision to see how many overs they give India to bat and save the game.
 
Justcrazy said:
Mamoon is shrewd person , he knows how to get mileage and popularity, he is like Bollywood actor , uses PR skills to stay in limelight , Mamoon has that way of posting that keeps him in limelight
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Mamoon is the PakPassion incarnation of Piers Morgan.
 
I think India will continue with spin throughout, a few overs from Bumrah should be used .
 
Sharma is in the attack here , he would be looking for one wicket , he needs to reach 300 Test wickets in his 98th Test
 
Eng needs 110 odd runs for 400. N danger of falling short here if playing in ODI mode. That will allow enough time to bowl out India.
 
James said:
There was no point in it staying as a dead pitch and scoring 250 in 30 overs. Would much prefer this to start spitting cobras and England to get out for 160. India would still be chasing 400 to win but now with something in the pitch for the bowlers, and it would actually be a tense exciting match instead of a bore draw.
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I have never seen draws as boring, unless much time is lost to rain. Draws can be thrillers too. Particularly in the context of a long series where hanging on for a brave draw can be crucial. The first test in the 2009 Ashes for instance when Jimmy and Monty held on for over after over and, impossibly, took the lead.
 
Justcrazy said:
Mamoon is shrewd person , he knows how to get mileage and popularity, he is like Bollywood actor , uses PR skills to stay in limelight , Mamoon has that way of posting that keeps him in limelight
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[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] has Aladin Ka Chirag with him, whatever he says become true. We need to be a bit alert here. He is not supporting India this time.

:yk
 
Ashwin getting good purchase from surface, puff of dust coming off every now and then. Even though there is no one near Ashwin's class in England's ranks, ominous signs for us.
 
James said:
Sometimes in these situations, it is ironically in the interests of the batting team to get bowled out. It takes the tricky declaration question out of the equation for the captain, and it continues to move the game forward.

If England bat long and slow again, it probably favours India in this scenario — whereas in the first innings, this very situation favoured England.

Cricket is a funny old game, as they say.
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Agreed.

Time is a big factor in this game, spending more time in the third innings will give them less time to bowl India out. But to the honest, the pace at which the India team bats, is going to make it harder for them to decide on when to declare.

England has some tough decisions to make and India bowling them out could be a blessing in disguise.
 
Buffet said:
Eng needs 110 odd runs for 400. N danger of falling short here if playing in ODI mode. That will allow enough time to bowl out India.
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I totally agree. It would be criminal if they bat for longer than a session here as they will need at least 120 overs or so to bowl India out.
 
50 overs left today, england should look to bat another 33-35 overs, lead 400 and then 12-15 overs at india tonight.
 
Root has changed gears here , the run rate has picked up , four boundaries in 11 balls so far
 
Root just continuing on from his 1st inns, seeing the ball like a football. 300 lead is almost up.
 
Amjid Javed said:
50 overs left today, england should look to bat another 33-35 overs, lead 400 and then 12-15 overs at india tonight.
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Why will Eng need 35 overs to get 100 more runs when they have 8 wickets in hands?
 
A super-quick century is for the taking here, if Joe wants another one. But he will likely get himself out chasing quick runs for the team.
 
Doesn't matter even if Root gets out now. Has played Ashwin the way someone with a lead of 300 should bat. Unlike some scaredy England fans [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION]
 
Ishant gets Lawrence.

300th test wicket for Ishant!!
 
300 wickets for Ishant, a very effective bowler on flat decks.
 
Only 3rd Indian seamer to enter into 300 test wickets club.

Bravo!
 
MP2011 said:
Ashwin getting good purchase from surface, puff of dust coming off every now and then. Even though there is no one near Ashwin's class in England's ranks, ominous signs for us.
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Yeah this ain't good at all.

We are not in control at all lol.

If Ashwin gets injured this series, we are done.

Nadeem, and Washington are just not there yet.

Kuli can't take up the full load.

Jaddu is such a huge loss.
 
Lawarence gone, india taking wickets will slow down englands chances of declaring quickly.
 
Pitch beginning to break up a little more than it seemed it would in the start of the match.

Another quick 100-150 runs will get the job done.
 
If we can either of these 2 out right now, things will get interesting.
 
Eng getting bowled out will increase the chance for Eng to win this test.
 
James said:
A super-quick century is for the taking here, if Joe wants another one. But he will likely get himself out chasing quick runs for the team.
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I think root, stokes and butler will go after quick runs here. Teams needs greater than personal.
 
160KPH said:
Pitch beginning to break up a little more than it seemed it would in the start of the match.

Another quick 100-150 runs will get the job done.
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lol, and people were asking this pitch to be rated as poor!

A test pitch should be adjudged for its show over 5 days, not just first 2 days.
 
Root is literally batting on another planet. He is gonna be lethal all through this series, not just this test.
 
MP2011 said:
lol, and people were asking this pitch to be rated as poor!

A test pitch should be adjudged for its show over 5 days, not just first 2 days.
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People seriously underestimated England’s batting. They assumed that because they were piling on the runs that it was flatter than any pitch ever, but in reality England just batted well and this is turning into a fairly traditional day 4 pitch in Asia.
 
Root’s ability to hit fours off spinner with 380 test wickets on a fourth day Indian pitch is uncanny.

He scores so fast. I have never seen a better England player of spin. Gower and Gatting in prime form maybe.
 
Root is batting in beast mode. Kohli should go defensive against root and need to buy time
 
Pant’s recent innings and the possibility of law of averages working in favor of Rohit has made the declarations call a very tricky decision from England’s perspective
 
Ab Fan said:
Root is literally batting on another planet. He is gonna be lethal all through this series, not just this test.
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Chennai is another planet? I think you mean ‘metaphorically’.
 
Losing those wickets early and thus allowing Root, Stokes, and Butler to come in early may actually have increased England’s chance of victory.
 
160KPH said:
People seriously underestimated England’s batting. They assumed that because they were piling on the runs that it was flatter than any pitch ever, but in reality England just batted well and this is turning into a fairly traditional day 4 pitch in Asia.
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True.

I think England has won almost all the sessions in this test match or most of them.
 
The old ball isn’t doing much, most of the wickets are coming when it’s new and hard. England needs to make sure they have another 25-30ish overs tomorrow after taking the new ball meaning that they need to declare with minimum 15ish overs remaining today. Still plenty of time left.
 
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