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India coach Anil Kumble tells BCCI that Virat Kohli and Co want to play in CT2017 [Update #319]

Those tickets were only sold because people thought India were taking part. Now even non-Indian fans will return their tickets and CT will be greeted with empty stands.

HAHAHAHAHHA :))) :)))


How did you even say that with a straight face. So England fans would return their tickets because India isn't playing, doesn't matter that there are confirmed England vs Australia and England vs New Zealand and New Zealand vs Australia matches in the group stages.

There is massive Pakistani population in UK and Pak matches will always be jam packed no matter who is the opposition.


Some of you really amaze me with your ignorance and arrogance.



Like I said, don't let the door hit you on your way out.
 
HAHAHAHAHHA :))) :)))


How did you even say that with a straight face. So England fans would return their tickets because India isn't playing, doesn't matter that there are confirmed England vs Australia and England vs New Zealand and New Zealand vs Australia matches in the group stages.

There is massive Pakistani population in UK and Pak matches will always be jam packed no matter who is the opposition.


Some of you really amaze me with your ignorance and arrogance.



Like I said, don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Its not just about countires, it's about morals. LIke many other people in have pointed out, BCCI is fighting the good fight and standing up for their rights. So even non-Indian fans will appreciate this and boycott as a show of solidarity, all you will have in the stadium are Pakistani fans.

Also what would you/ICC do if Indian umpires boycott this event, good luck watching the matches with substandard umpiring and 90s TV presentation cause all the good broadcaster will back out as well.
 
Its not just about countires, it's about morals. LIke many other people in have pointed out, BCCI is fighting the good fight and standing up for their rights. So even non-Indian fans will appreciate this and boycott as a show of solidarity, all you will have in the stadium are Pakistani fans.

Also what would you/ICC do if Indian umpires boycott this event, good luck watching the matches with substandard umpiring and 90s TV presentation cause all the good broadcaster will back out as well.

What BS.... where is this good fight?

"the world's biggest democracy" throwing a hissy fit when they lost a vote 9-1. Stop crying. It is your national pastime.
 
No defending champions.
No India Vs Pak.
Best batsman missing.
No real audience.
Possible decline in production quality.

Not to mention, the revenue loss.

You forgot to include:

Best twin spinners in the world missing
Best twin all-rounders in the world missing
Best commentators missing
Best team kit missing
 
What BS.... where is this good fight?

"the world's biggest democracy" throwing a hissy fit when they lost a vote 9-1. Stop crying. It is your national pastime.

Asking for what you think you deserve and rightfully so isn't a "hissy" fit. Maybe asking for what you want is considered a "hissy" fit where you come from mate but certainly knowing your worth is quite important. This is how big negotiations are done. If arm twisting can get BCCI a well deserved 100 mil and all the legacy of PCB and cricketing history only brings it $ 132 mil, I think it's more of a question of introspection. Once PCB has that clout and becomes deserving to be invited to the negotiation table - how unrealistic that may sound - enjoy seeing how bureaucracy works.
 
India will definitely make up for the losses incurred due to missing CT. They will surely conduct another IPL this year. As CT will be flop without India, all international players will be eager to participate in IPL again! Let me tell that once BCCI starts organizing 2-3 IPLs in a year, then the interest for International Cricket will gradually die! India will skip all useless/less worthy bilaterals like WI, NZ, Bangladesh, Srilanka, etc. They may still retain high profile (revenue generating) tours like Australia, England, South Africa... (This may also be required to maintain the skill levels of Indian players getting exposed to best talents around! But anyhow if IPL is played throughout the year that itself is enough!)

So it ICC's will to compromise with BCCI, otherwise they will soon be doomed! Now at least there is 1 IPL in the year, leaving 10 months for international cricket. As long as Cricket is a recognized sport in just 6-8 nations, this dominance will continue. ICC should work their hell out to globalize cricket like anything to reach even 10% of FIFA. If BCCI/India is a hindrance for that, they can boycott India and do it if they wish/if they can! ICC should do in the "whole globe" what BCCI has done/is doing in "whole India"! The problem is: the interest for cricket in world is not even 10% as that in India! ICC has to become BCCI to reach Indian market or get satisfied with whatever they get through BCCI.

So the inference is: Rest of the World has no other option but to accept India as the superpower of Cricket and get all the secondary benefits. Else they can boycott India and try to continue playing cricket on non-profit basis/pleasure.

It's not just CT in play here actually. Also people will eventually get sick and tired of IPL if it's all they have to look forward to. As they say too much of anything is good for nothing. Plus a lot of high profile internationals will most likely have to pull out as well if things come to ahead. There certainly won't be any winners if things get nasty.


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Nope, its time for BCCI to call the bluff and prove once and for all what BCCI contributes to ICC. This way, any future relationship will not be based on smoke and mirrors, but hard numbers.

SL is the first one line to pay the price from BCCI retaliation. Hope its huge one that ruins SLC finances for good. Not that they already aren't

Very little to do with BCCI and more to do with the CoA clowns.


Yeah destroy everything and everyone around you that always solves problems right. Good thinking. It's not the CoA who are the clowns here. They are actually the ones doing their best to stop the real clowns from doing something really stupid.
 
Erm...the delusion is high when people are thinking Aussie/English/BD/Pak/etc fans will not watch because India isn't playing
 
The CoA will not allow BCCI to pull out its clear from media.

The crippled BCCI ,the only competent organization India put down by set of idealists and honor seeking fools,no wonder the country suffered so heavily because of Nehru and its socialism took 41 years to realize the mistake.

The Courts in India have millions of backlog cases and they are getting involved in the only organization that actually makes some money for its people inspite of gov interference,would run this to the ground as well.
 
What BS.... where is this good fight?

"the world's biggest democracy" throwing a hissy fit when they lost a vote 9-1. Stop crying. It is your national pastime.

Because they all were not losing anything, but one. If they all had to lose even half of BCCI, then it would have been different story. Everyone loves forced socialism if they are on receiving end.
 
23 of 31 BCCI members have agreed to send ICC a notice regarding ICC breaking the MPA.

Bcci has hired Herbert Smith Freehills as their legal representatives for the case. [MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] any idea about the firm?
 
Star writes to ICC, expresses 'deep concern'

Pressure appears to be building up on the International Cricket Council (ICC) to convince its stakeholders of India's participation in the Champions Trophy starting early next month.

On Wednesday , it came to light that the giant broadcaster sent out a formal letter to the ICC, expressing concerns. Sources in the governing body told TOI of the communication received from Star India, which expresses "deep concern on the uncertainties" and how it has already impacted the commercial prospects of the Champions Trophy.

"If India were not to participate, the tournament would lose its meaning," Star has conveyed to the game's parent body.

Star is clearly getting jittery with less than 30 days remaining for the tournament to start. "Anxiety levels are going up given what's at stake for them," a source in the know of things said.

Sanjay Gupta, the managing director at Star India - official broadcast partners of the ICC - had spoken with TOI last week and said "we are confident BCCI and the ICC will resolve issues around the tournament."

Gupta had sounded confident that matters would be resolved and now, given the BCCI's decision to send the notice to the ICC, it is learnt that Star has decided to take things up. "They believe that the disagreements between the two parties are widening rather than narrowing and their advertisers are getting nervous too," the source added.

Last week, Group M's Southeast Asia CEO CVL Srinivas had also expressed concerns from the advertisers' point of view, given the uncertainty of India's participation in the tournament.


This was bound to happen.
 
This was bound to happen.

Bet their rest ICC's bals are shrinking. Time for BCCI to ask CoA and SC who they stand with. Indian cricket or ICC.

With pakistan sending in legal notice and killings at the border, this should allow BCCI to raise nationalistic fervor.

fun times!
 
23 of 31 BCCI members have agreed to send ICC a notice regarding ICC breaking the MPA.

Bcci has hired Herbert Smith Freehills as their legal representatives for the case. [MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] any idea about the firm?

It's a really good Commercial Law Firm in London, I'm pretty sure they're ranked in the top 10 Commercial Law Firms in London.

They're not as good as the big boys (Clifford Chance, Allen Overy etc) but they're a really good firm.
 
HAHAHAHAHHA :))) :)))


How did you even say that with a straight face. So England fans would return their tickets because India isn't playing, doesn't matter that there are confirmed England vs Australia and England vs New Zealand and New Zealand vs Australia matches in the group stages.

There is massive Pakistani population in UK and Pak matches will always be jam packed no matter who is the opposition.


Some of you really amaze me with your ignorance and arrogance.



Like I said, don't let the door hit you on your way out.

It's Ramadan, I'm not really sure how many Pakistanis will go.
 
Not really sure how many people will have the energy to put up with the noise and energy of a cricket match.

Cricket ka nasha hi kuch aru hain. Cricket crazy fans will never miss the opportunity, mark my words (respectfully speaking) :)
 
It's all nonsense.

A bunch of BCCI hardliners from the state cricket associations whose funding the BCCI cannot afford to continue without a lavish handout from the ICC, including a certain N Srinivasan, defied the COA's direction not to vote on boycotting the Champions Trophy.

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahom...sts-discuss-ICC-Champions-Trophy-boycott.html

Of course the COA then emailed the BCCI to inform them that no such decision is to be taken without COA approval.

Source: http://www.newindianexpress.com/spo...rmission-vinod-rais-mail-to-bcci-1600156.html
 
It's all nonsense.

A bunch of BCCI hardliners from the state cricket associations whose funding the BCCI cannot afford to continue without a lavish handout from the ICC, including a certain N Srinivasan, defied the COA's direction not to vote on boycotting the Champions Trophy.

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahom...sts-discuss-ICC-Champions-Trophy-boycott.html

Of course the COA then emailed the BCCI to inform them that no such decision is to be taken without COA approval.

Source: http://www.newindianexpress.com/spo...rmission-vinod-rais-mail-to-bcci-1600156.html

23 of 31 members including the 3 govt votes are in favour of pull out and they have given letters for the same.That is a 2/3rd majority.
 
Cricket ka nasha hi kuch aru hain. Cricket crazy fans will never miss the opportunity, mark my words (respectfully speaking) :)

Bro, Ramadan is quite taxing man. Guess the day might pass quicker though, but not all the cricket mad lovers will be able to do it, or even want to.
 
‘If India don’t participate, ICC Champions Trophy would lose meaning’, Broadcaster writes to ICC

The tiff between International Cricket Council (ICC) and Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) is beginning to affect all parties. Last week, a top official from media agency Group M expressed concerns from the advertisers’ point of view if India were to pull out of ICC Champions Trophy 2017. According to a report in Times of India, Star India, the broadcaster for the mega event has written a formal letter to ICC, expressing concerns over India’s uncertainty over participation. The letter states that the commercial prospects have already been impacted.

Star India has reportedly conveyed, “If India were not to participate, the tournament would lose its meaning.” The letter further states that with less than a month remaining for the tournament to start, the anxiety levels are going up. Earlier, Star India’s Managing Director Sanjay Gupta had mentioned that the broadcasters are confident with BCCI and ICC resolving the issue ahead of the tournament.

With BCCI sending a notice to ICC, the anxiety in the Star camp has only amplified now with them writing officially to the game’s governing body. Also, the date for the final squads for the teams is well past and India have not named their 15 yet.

A source from ICC was quoted by TOI, “They believe that the disagreements between the two parties are widening rather than narrowing and their advertisers are getting nervous too.”

Earlier, the CoA had stated that if BCCI opted out of Champions Trophy, they would move to Supreme Court. Unfortunately, in the tiff between the major boards, it is fans, players and other stakeholders who are losing their sleep.


This is getting ugly.
 
More news -

'India Will Play Champions Trophy, Announce Squad Immediately': Committee Of Administrators To BCCI
 
ICC shouldn't be worried. All they need is to call the saviors at PCB, and BCCI will be back to it's knees again. :najam
 
http://m.hindustantimes.com/cricket...orders-bcci/story-BWbt1lUUMT30xQjNvzBZxO.html

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) was dilly-dallying on picking the Indian cricket team for the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 in the wake of a revenue battle with the world body.

The Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators (CoA) in a strongly-worded statement to the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) has asked the cricket body to select the Indian cricket squad for the ICC Champions Trophy, starting in the United Kingdom on June 1.

The deadline for the team selection was April 25, but BCCI did not abide by it in an apparent protest over ICC’s decision to implement a new financial model that would see India losing substantial revenue. Several BCCI top officials even threatened to pull out of the marquee event.

The COA, led by former CAG Vinod Rai, had earlier said that such a stance was not welcome. The COA released a statement on Thursday saying the BCCI’s ‘combative’ and ‘negative’ approach should not impact the Indian team. It also asked the cricket body to convene a selection meeting at the earliest.

COA’s statement

In a letter addressed to BCCI’s acting secretary Amitabh Choudhary and marked to all members of the Board, the COA said: “It would be appropriate to make all necessary preparations for ensuring that Team India can successfully defend its title in the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 which commences on 1st June 2017.

“You are aware that the squad representing India at the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 was to be submitted by 25th April 2017 but the squad has not even been selected as yet. Please convene a meeting of the selection committee for selecting the squad immediately. The squad can then be submitted to the ICC without prejudice to BCCI’s legal rights.”

Uncertainty, confusion over team undesirable

The BCCI had threatened to pull out of Champions Trophy after a revamped revenue model was proposed to replace the existing ‘Big Three’ model. BCCI’s share would reduce from USD 570 million to USD 293 million, according to estimates, in the new model. However, the threats didn’t go down well with the CoA who had earlier stated that a discussion would be appropriate than such measures.

“Team India should be provided with a supportive environment to showcase Indian cricket instead of being surrounded with uncertainty and confusion. There has been more than enough negativity surrounding Team India’s participation in the ICC Champions Trophy and the sooner the same is put to rest the better. The players’ interests are paramount and they must be given the best chance to prepare for, defend and retain the ICC Champions Trophy,” the letter stated.

BCCI have lost sight

The CoA lambasted the approach undertaken by the BCCI and further stated: “The BCCI appears to have lost sight of the fact that it attained a pre-eminent position in the ICC not by a combative approach but by building consensus and ensuring a positive image including by helping other cricket boards in their time of need.”

Of the eight nations that are to take part in the tournament, India is the only team that is yet to announce their squad.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/crick...orders-bcci/story-BWbt1lUUMT30xQjNvzBZxO.html
 
ICC shouldn't be worried. All they need is to call the saviors at PCB, and BCCI will be back to it's knees again. :najam

ICC have other members as well. You can vent your frusturation otherways too.
 
1 step back but we'll take 10 steps forward. Don't let India push you around, they've ruined the game enough with their money grubbing hands as it is.
 
Broadcaster?

Group M is an investment company involved in the media. If they have the BCCI as a client, which I guess they do, of course they are going to say this. Star India, a broadcaster, is obviously going to back India, considering less people in India, watching via Star will watch the tournament. Is that really a bombshell?

Anyway, we all know there will be a hit to advertising revenue if India drops out but we also know India has more to lse. It's board has admitted to not being able to even carry on without ICC monetary handouts, you think they can simply survive without internation cricket? Of course not, you don't have to be a genius to work that one out.

The ICC needs to stick to its guns here and not have the wool pulled over its eyes yet again.
 
Broadcaster?

Group M is an investment company involved in the media. If they have the BCCI as a client, which I guess they do, of course they are going to say this. Star India, a broadcaster, is obviously going to back India, considering less people in India, watching via Star will watch the tournament. Is that really a bombshell?

Anyway, we all know there will be a hit to advertising revenue if India drops out but we also know India has more to lse. It's board has admitted to not being able to even carry on without ICC monetary handouts, you think they can simply survive without internation cricket? Of course not, you don't have to be a genius to work that one out.

The ICC needs to stick to its guns here and not have the wool pulled over its eyes yet again.

The ICC is in the wrong as well. Why the disproportionate "handouts". Even with the current proposal of $400 million to the BCCI. Why are they giving away that money.

It's either utter incompetence or total corruption on the part of ICC to just dole out the $400 million while others get peanuts.
 
More news -

'India Will Play Champions Trophy, Announce Squad Immediately': Committee Of Administrators To BCCI

Is this true? BCCI is chagrined by COA by conscripting them to play CT against their wish, arrogating populace wish, which predominantly seems to boycott CT too.

Is there a way to arraign supreme court ruling over BCCi, or this vacillation of authority will cut off the last remaining fabric of power that BCCI have over ICC. :facepalm:
 
Broadcaster?

Group M is an investment company involved in the media. If they have the BCCI as a client, which I guess they do, of course they are going to say this. Star India, a broadcaster, is obviously going to back India, considering less people in India, watching via Star will watch the tournament. Is that really a bombshell?

Anyway, we all know there will be a hit to advertising revenue if India drops out but we also know India has more to lse. It's board has admitted to not being able to even carry on without ICC monetary handouts, you think they can simply survive without internation cricket? Of course not, you don't have to be a genius to work that one out.

The ICC needs to stick to its guns here and not have the wool pulled over its eyes yet again.
Problem with your argument is that Star isn't just indian broadcaster in this case, it is also the broadcaster who pays the 2-3 billion dollar amount that ICC and BCCI are fighting over.
 
India Will Play Champions Trophy, Announce Squad Immediately: Committee of Administrators Tell BCCI

The Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators (CoA)
on Thursday directed the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) to convene a selection committee meet and announce the Indian squad for the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 "immediately". The CoA asked BCCI's Amitabh Choudhary why the team has not yet been selected despite April 25 being the deadline. The COA also questioned the manner in which BCCI negotiated the entire revenue model deal with the International Cricket Council (ICC) at a meet held in Dubai recently. The CoA's directive makes it amply clear that the Indian cricket team will not pull out of the high-profile tournament.

"It would be appropriate to make all necessary preparations for ensuring that Team India can successfully defend its title in the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 which commences on 1st June 2017. You are aware that the squad representing India at the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 was to be submitted by 25th April 2017 but the squad has not even been selected as yet. Please convene a meeting of the selection committee for selecting the squad immediately. The squad can then be submitted to the ICC without prejudice to BCCI's legal rights," the CoA wrote in a letter to Choudhary.

The COA told that the office-bearers should keep in mind while mulling a pull-out that "India are the best team in the world today".

"Team India should be provided with a supportive environment to showcase Indian cricket instead of being surrounded with uncertainty and confusion. There has been more than enough negativity surrounding Team India's participation in the ICC Champions Trophy and the sooner the same is put to rest the better," the letter states.

The COA reminded the office-bearers and state unit officials that the "players' interest should be paramount".

"The focus should be on enabling our team to achieve even greater heights and further laurels, which will automatically attract higher revenues," the letter further stated. The COA pointed out that the officials running the cricket in the country have lost sight of the fact that India's position in global cricket has been achieved by consensus and not by confrontational approach.

"The BCCI appears to have lost sight of the fact that it attained a pre-eminent position in the ICC not by a combative approach but by building consensus and ensuring a positive image including by helping other cricket boards in their time of need."

In the letter, the COA also questioned need to send a legal notice to ICC when the matter is yet to be placed before the general body.

"In the above circumstances, there is no reason why any notice should be issued to the ICC before the members of BCCI have had the opportunity to discuss the matter and take a well-considered decision as mentioned in our email dated 3rd May 2017.

"We do not believe that BCCI's legal rights will be prejudiced in any manner if a notice is not issued to the ICC prior to the SGM. A decision of such magnitude needs to be taken after following due process and the correct forum for that is the SGM. The Committee of Administrators will consider the matter of issuing a notice to the ICC only after the SGM takes a decision."

"We believe that the BCCI has not yet given the possibility of a negotiated outcome a fair chance. As communicated to you during our meeting on 21st April 2017, the resolutions passed during the Special General Meeting on 18th April 2017 did not give you any flexibility to negotiate with the ICC and other cricket boards," it states.

"The General Body of the BCCI has itself recognized the need to adopt a collaborative/ non-confrontational approach with the ICC and other cricket boards during the Special General Meeting held on 19th February 2016," the COA reminded.


https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/ind...y-committee-of-administrators-to-bcci-1689508
 
Yup, you are saying that out of the goodness of your heart and not becos you get to lot someone else's money with the help of a traitor.

Manohar and the CoA clowns explain how India was colonized.

Nope I’m saying that looking at the bigger picture as opposed to you know being blinded by BCCI propaganda.

Btw has the BCCI mentioned that they actually used to get 7.5% of the share before the Big 3 fiasco in 2014 where that share magically rocketed up to 34%?

ICC’s financial model is straightforward: 75 per cent of all the surplus (revenues minus costs) is divided equally between 10 full members. The remaining is divided equally in cricket’s second tier (Associates and Affiliates).

Or that they could have easily walked away with $445 mil (ie 26% of the share) which was the same amount that they received in 2014 under Big 3? Fyi the whole point of this exercise is to rollback the ridiculous Big 3 model and make things more equitable so demanding $570 mil or 33% yet again was never going to fly.

It is understood that before the Dubai meeting, the Test-playing nations had agreed on a figure of $445 million as BCCI's share after Rai met almost all the ICC board members. This figure was calculated after deducting the money BCCI would be spending on the conduct of matches - $125 million - after getting a share of $570. But BCCI office-bearers were adamant on seeking $570 as gross amount, which wasn't acceptable to any of the full members, sources told TOI.

Or how Indian cricket and the game in general are being taken for a ride?

Officials present in Dubai say they were extremely happy and impressed with Amitabh Choudhary's conduct and approach. It was when treasurer Anirudh Chawdhary—a known Srinivasan ally—came for a discussion ahead of board meeting that ICC Chairman Shashank Manohar walked out, upset. England and Wales Cricket Board's Giles Clarke, present in the meeting, insisted then that they would speak only to persons authorised by the Supreme Court.

“N. Srinivasan and group want a crisis. It works in their favour as it would discredit CoA,” said a seasoned administrator. “It is no longer about 290 million or 390 million, it is about who controls BCCI now and who calls the shots.”

Time to get that head out of the sand.
 
As for Manohar last time I checked he’s the independent chairman of the ICC. Absolutely pathetic to see people blaming him as if he's in any way responsible for this mess. The man should be applauded finally someone at the top with actual cojones doing their job properly and putting the interests of the game first. The real disgrace is the crook still pulling BCCI’s strings from behind the scenes to the detriment of all.
 
Of course they were always going to play.

Fake threats of boycotting was just a desperate last bid to get more cash from the ICC.

Now they see the writing on the wall they have no choice but to submit their team. They would have been a laughing stock had they not.
 
Of course they were always going to play.

Fake threats of boycotting was just a desperate last bid to get more cash from the ICC.

Now they see the writing on the wall they have no choice but to submit their team. They would have been a laughing stock had they not.

You don't read much do you . A bigger issue is within the BCCI and COA rather than with the ICC.
BCCI is being forced to play by the COA, not by their choice. I am not sure why would they have been a laughing stock ? They would opt out not forced out?
 
You don't read much do you . A bigger issue is within the BCCI and COA rather than with the ICC.
BCCI is being forced to play by the COA, not by their choice. I am not sure why would they have been a laughing stock ? They would opt out not forced out?

They were gonna play no matter what. All this CoA thingy is just another drama by greedy BCCI
 
You don't read much do you . A bigger issue is within the BCCI and COA rather than with the ICC.
BCCI is being forced to play by the COA, not by their choice. I am not sure why would they have been a laughing stock ? They would opt out not forced out?

Boycotting an ICC trophy just because a cricket board doesn't get what it wants financially will be seen as a joke and a laughing stock.

Again I will say again, nothing has changed other than the ridiculous 2014 cricket deal being reversed that was ridiculed universally by nearly all cricket pundits. BCCI had 3 years of having a bigger slice of the pie, now they are going to what they used to got.

Their rein of bullying others and getting what they want when they want is over. All these calls of boycotting tournaments was pure nonsense.
 
Can someone educate me on who's the Coa and whats their connection to bcci ? Who is in charge of Indian cricket here ? Is bcci private or governed by the state ?
 
Boycotting an ICC trophy just because a cricket board doesn't get what it wants financially will be seen as a joke and a laughing stock.

Again I will say again, nothing has changed other than the ridiculous 2014 cricket deal being reversed that was ridiculed universally by nearly all cricket pundits. BCCI had 3 years of having a bigger slice of the pie, now they are going to what they used to got.

Their rein of bullying others and getting what they want when they want is over. All these calls of boycotting tournaments was pure nonsense.

BCCI is in favor of ruling out of the CT whereas COA which again is caling the shots wants them to participate.
In terms of what they deserve, ICC and BCCI knows best. If BCCI was getting 573 million before and has been offered 400 mil now whereas other boards get 132 mil - Do you think ICC is that blind or biased towards BCCI to give them 3 times ? Use a bit more logic than that.

ICC gave $100 mil extra to BCCI - what do you reckon, was that a decision made by ICC alone to give BCCI an extra 100 mil or ICC asked all the other members whether to give 100 mil extra to BCCI ? Considering ICC is a legislative body and the 100 mil isn't ICC's call - other members agreed to give BCCI 100 mil bonus to make their share 400 mil.
 
Boycotting an ICC trophy just because a cricket board doesn't get what it wants financially will be seen as a joke and a laughing stock.

Again I will say again, nothing has changed other than the ridiculous 2014 cricket deal being reversed that was ridiculed universally by nearly all cricket pundits. BCCI had 3 years of having a bigger slice of the pie, now they are going to what they used to got.

Their rein of bullying others and getting what they want when they want is over. All these calls of boycotting tournaments was pure nonsense.

Though CoA has been appointed by SC, SC is known to make exceptions. SC may restrict the jurisdiction of CoA at any time.
 
Star writes to ICC expressing concern about India's Champions Trophy participation

New Delhi: Star India, the broadcast giants who telecast all International Cricket Council tournaments in India and other South Asian countries, has written a letter to the governing body, expressing concern over India's participation in the upcoming Champions Trophy.

Speaking to Cricketnext, a source in Star India confirmed that that the host broadcaster had indeed raised concern over the ongoing tussle between the ICC and the Indian cricket board.

"Yes a letter has gone to the ICC from our side because you must realise that the Champions Trophy is round the corner and a conclusion must be reached," the official said.

In the event of India's pull out from the showpiece event, the broadcaster is expected to feel the heat as viewership could take a massive hit. This is also a major cause of worry for the advertisers, who have already booked prime slot for the event, which begins on June 1.

India are supposed to take on Pakistan in their first match on June 4. The Board of Control for Cricket in India has already missed the deadline for announcing the squad for the tournament.

Several members of the BCCI are adamant about pulling out of the tournament in the wake of the new revenue model passed by the ICC, which has left the Indian cricket board with a diminished share.

The COA though has advised the board members to take a unanimous stand on the issue and have also said that they could move the court if they find BCCI's stand to be against the interest of Indian cricket.

http://www.news18.com/cricketnext/n...s-champions-trophy-participation-1391705.html
 
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haha why am I not surprised by Star's 'letter' at this point in time...Star and BCCI have colluded in the past and this reeks of the same.
 
Meh didn't walk the talk again.

It has been suggested by CoA is it done deal?

hope the wagah kandle kissers like tendulkar, Dravid and CoA clowns realize that if BCCI sends team to CT, they are donelegally. It will greatly damage their case andwill absolutely get rolled over in any future negotiations with ICC.

Time to take a stand is now and Indian fans like like probably hope they don't..
 
BCCI is in favor of ruling out of the CT whereas COA which again is caling the shots wants them to participate.
In terms of what they deserve, ICC and BCCI knows best. If BCCI was getting 573 million before and has been offered 400 mil now whereas other boards get 132 mil - Do you think ICC is that blind or biased towards BCCI to give them 3 times ? Use a bit more logic than that.

ICC gave $100 mil extra to BCCI - what do you reckon, was that a decision made by ICC alone to give BCCI an extra 100 mil or ICC asked all the other members whether to give 100 mil extra to BCCI ? Considering ICC is a legislative body and the 100 mil isn't ICC's call - other members agreed to give BCCI 100 mil bonus to make their share 400 mil.

You are comparing apples and oranges here. BCCI actually used to get 7.5% of the share before the Big 3 ambush in 2014. Under the Big 3 that 7.5% share rocketed up to 33-34%. The whole point of this exercise is to rollback that ridiculous hike and make things more equitable. So asking for $570 mil or 33-34% again was never going to be accepted by the other boards. Also BCCI weren't just offered an extra $100 mil. The other boards had already agreed to allocate BCCI $445 mil or 26% of the share after discussions with Rai but BCCI were hell bent on the 33%. So it was actually BCCI who screwed it all up.
 
You are comparing apples and oranges here. BCCI actually used to get 7.5% of the share before the Big 3 ambush in 2014. Under the Big 3 that 7.5% share rocketed up to 33-34%. The whole point of this exercise is to rollback that ridiculous hike and make things more equitable. So asking for $570 mil or 33-34% again was never going to be accepted by the other boards. Also BCCI weren't just offered an extra $100 mil. The other boards had already agreed to allocate BCCI $445 mil or 26% of the share after discussions with Rai but BCCI were hell bent on the 33%. So it was actually BCCI who screwed it all up.

I do no think this is the case.
 
I do no think this is the case.

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It is understood that before the Dubai meeting, the Test-playing nations had agreed on a figure of $445 million as BCCI's share after Rai met almost all the ICC board members. This figure was calculated after deducting the money BCCI would be spending on the conduct of matches - $125 million - after getting a share of $570. But BCCI office-bearers were adamant on seeking $570 as gross amount, which wasn't acceptable to any of the full members, sources told TOI.
 
Not sure how credible is that but that's pretty much the amount BCCI is arguing for now - If this were to be put forth now - I think it should be a matter solved.

Don't see how it's not certainly backs this up from a day earlier.

Well well well....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Coa chief Vinod rai to me despite all instructions our advice not heeded. Sad day for indian cricket. We worked out formula with all boards.</p>— Boria Majumdar (@BoriaMajumdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoriaMajumdar/status/857231360167092224">26 April 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our formula was win win for all. It was not listened to by bcci reps at icc. Sad. We will try to make amends says Vinod rai.</p>— Boria Majumdar (@BoriaMajumdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoriaMajumdar/status/857231551985098752">26 April 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vinod rai had spoken to 8 boards and had got their support. Worked out a formula. Shunned by bcci reps at icc says the coa boss. Sad</p>— Boria Majumdar (@BoriaMajumdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoriaMajumdar/status/857231985609121793">26 April 2017</a></blockquote>
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Afaik BCCI are still demanding $570 mil or 33% but CoA can step in at around the $445 million to close out the deal. However the problem is that BCCI are playing games.

 
Don't see how it's not certainly backs this up from a day earlier.




Afaik BCCI are still demanding $570 mil or 33% but CoA can step in at around the $445 million to close out the deal. However the problem is that BCCI are playing games.

The most recent news I came across was that BCCI was negotiating around the figure of 450 mil which I think it would be a great deal. I'd do it for 400 mil too
 
The CoA has been overruled in the past by by the SC. It will be interesting to see how deep a **** SC wants to get into with the public.
 
You don't read much do you . A bigger issue is within the BCCI and COA rather than with the ICC.
BCCI is being forced to play by the COA, not by their choice. I am not sure why would they have been a laughing stock ? They would opt out not forced out?

BCCI does not play. They administer.

Their job is to get the players on the park. Full stop.

Not to use them as hostages.

This is why you have the COA in the first place. Outrageous administration by the BCCI and open defiance of the Supreme Court.
 
BCCI does not play. They administer.

Their job is to get the players on the park. Full stop.

Not to use them as hostages.

This is why you have the COA in the first place. Outrageous administration by the BCCI and open defiance of the Supreme Court.

Quite a selective poster mate , I thought I had lost you when I started doing some readings.
Well let's hope they both end up on the same page and do whatever is in the best interest of Indian cricket
 
BCCI does not play. They administer.

Their job is to get the players on the park. Full stop.

Not to use them as hostages.

This is why you have the COA in the first place. Outrageous administration by the BCCI and open defiance of the Supreme Court.

BCCIs job is to take care of interest of Indian cricket. A team will show up to a tournament or not falls under administrative role.
 
BCCIs job is to take care of interest of Indian cricket. A team will show up to a tournament or not falls under administrative role.
Nope.

Just like you should never notice a referee or an umpire, you should never notice the administrators.

And they certainly shouldn't be holding their own players hostage.
 
Nope.

Just like you should never notice a referee or an umpire, you should never notice the administrators.

And they certainly shouldn't be holding their own players hostage.

For greater good, sometimes steps needs to be taken which falls in the grey area.

BCCI is there to serve interest of Indian cricket. And it should take any steps to protect it's interest.

Going by salaries of first class cricketers in India, bcci has indeed changed the whole infrastructure. It does look after the players.

Since BCCI s role is shaken now, it needs to take actions which establishes it's role inside the system as the leader.

If BCCI bows down, it will be ECB and ACB all over again just like previous times.

It is not about money at this point of time. It is about reputation of Indian cricket.
 
For greater good, sometimes steps needs to be taken which falls in the grey area.

BCCI is there to serve interest of Indian cricket. And it should take any steps to protect it's interest.

Going by salaries of first class cricketers in India, bcci has indeed changed the whole infrastructure. It does look after the players.

Since BCCI s role is shaken now, it needs to take actions which establishes it's role inside the system as the leader.

If BCCI bows down, it will be ECB and ACB all over again just like previous times.

It is not about money at this point of time. It is about reputation of Indian cricket.

But there is a problem with that.

According to the BCCI's own claims, only 1/32 of its expenditure goes on players past and present. And less than a third goes on grassroots cricket and infrastructure.

The BCCI takes vast amounts of money from cricket and it seems to vanish without a trace. Yet they claim that they require a 500% increase in their handout from the ICC while everyone else has a reduction.

It is the very fact of this that ruins the reputation of Indian cricket.

What I believe is that the following should happen - which I think the COA would love to happen.

1. The BCCI combines its own income with an equitable share of ICC surplus money. But the BCCI does not get a triple or quadruple share.

2. The BCCI accepts multilateralism in international cricket, in scheduling and even in employment of all international cricketers from beyond the Big Three.

3. The BCCI undertakes not to cannibalise other countries' seasons with the IPL or other competitions, and to play them in an agreed window.

4. The BCCI takes on the role of leader, not bully, in international cricket. This means the exertion of soft power, not hard power, and an end to:

a) Holding other countries to ransom by tours being on or off (South Africa, West Indies, Pakistan).
b) Not accepting majority verdicts within the ICC, for example on DRS.
c) Not behaving as a friend, rather than as a mafia boss.
 
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BCCI acting secretary Amitabh Choudhary wrote to the Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators (CoA) on Thursday seeking permission to send a notice to the ICC, allaying fears that India would exercise the MPA even before the SGM on Sunday.

“I would once again like to reiterate that the notice only seeks to ask the ICC to remedy the breach that they have committed within a period of 30 days from today. This is not a decision of great magnitude. Not sending a notice will be of great magnitude since it has the possible effect of closing an option available to the BCCI within a given time frame,” says the letter.

“The draft notice doesn’t talk about any drastic step but merely appropriate consequences. The consequences can only be decided by the general body of the BCCI,” it states.

Board’s acting president CK Khanna confirmed the contents of the letter, saying it was the only option available to the Board secretary now. “Yes, we have India’s rights in mind, but we also want to take the feelings of all members into consideration,” he said.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/crick...tice-to-icc/story-4AUgnJkuTVCH6ZpMzA6WKL.html
 
What'll happen if the BCCI sends the notice against the approval of the COA?
 
How did anyone ever think that India was going to pull out is well and truly - beyond me.
 
For greater good, sometimes steps needs to be taken which falls in the grey area.

BCCI is there to serve interest of Indian cricket. And it should take any steps to protect it's interest.

Going by salaries of first class cricketers in India, bcci has indeed changed the whole infrastructure. It does look after the players.

Since BCCI s role is shaken now, it needs to take actions which establishes it's role inside the system as the leader.

If BCCI bows down, it will be ECB and ACB all over again just like previous times.

It is not about money at this point of time. It is about reputation of Indian cricket.

So now its about India's interest and nothing to do with whether it is right or wrong ?
ECB and ACB are working in towards the betterment of cricket as a whole. Australia isn't going to start demanding 15 crorers to tour India like they did back in the day.
 
CT 2017: India coach Anil Kumble tells BCCI that Virat Kohli and Co want to play in Champions Trophy

A day after India legends like Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid expressed their opinion that India should participate in the 2017 Champions Trophy, national team coach Anil Kumble too has reportedly told the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) that the wrangling over finances with the International Cricket Council (ICC) should not hamper the team’s participation at the tournament.

According to a report in The Mumbai Mirror, Kumble had conveyed to BCCI’s office bearers that the Virat Kohli-led team was keen on defending its Champions Trophy title. The tournament begins on 1 June in England and India are defending champions having won it in 2013.

The BCCI is expected to take a final decision on India’s participation at the tournament at its special general body meeting on Sunday in New Delhi.

The Mirror report quoted BCCI sources as saying that “important players had expressed their desire to play in the Champions Trophy, and that coach Kumble had taken the lead in this matter.”

Apart from Tendulkar and Dravid, Zaheer Khan, Gundappa Viswanath, Sandeep Patil, Sanjay Manjrekar, Aakash Chopra, Ajit Agarkar, Venkatesh Prasad, Saba Karim, Murali Kartik, and Deep Dasgupta had told ESPNcricinfo that they were in favour of India participating at the eight-team tournament.

The pressure on BCCI to send a team was exacerbated by the Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators (CoA) when it asked the board to immediately announce the Champions Trophy squad.

India’s participation has been under a cloud ever since BCCI missed a 25 April deadline to name its squad for the tournament, which the board claimed was owing to "operational reasons." After that, the BCCI lost a crucial vote at the ICC board meeting, where members approved a new constitution, governance structure and finance model, which the Indian board has branded unfair.

Source : http://www.firstpost.com/sports/ct-...want-to-play-in-champions-trophy-3425258.html
 
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