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India lead England by 171 runs with 7 wickets in hand at stumps on Day 3 of the 4th Test at the Oval

India far ahead of the game in my view.

Nothing in this pitch at the moment.
 
James said:
The draw also cannot be completely counted out. This pitch has flattened out completely.
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Well, it was only a matter of new ball. Get Kohli and then run through lower middle order and tail. India need to score 100 runs more to stay in the game.
 
I grew up with people "hoping Sachin scores 100 even if India loses". Now it's the opposite: Some of us are "hoping India wins even if Kohli fails".
 
Ab Fan said:
Well, it was only a matter of new ball. Get Kohli and then run through lower middle order and tail. India need to score 100 runs more to stay in the game.
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Its easier said than done , England do not have bowlers who can blast out 3 - 4 quick wickets in a spell
 
Justcrazy said:
Its easier said than done , England do not have bowlers who can blast out 3 - 4 quick wickets in a spell
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The next one and half hour is tricky and so will be the morning hour. That is enough time for England to run through the Indian batting lineup at expense of what, 80 odd runs maybe.

At Headingley, we were two down going into Day 4 and bowled out before lunch. We have an example just few days ago.
 
England can chase whatever target india set here .most likely they get to Chase 230-240 .
 
Any further views from the “biased home umpires” crowd on the fact that England had to review 2 out of their 3 wickets after the officials ruled in favour of India?
 
MP2011 said:
Rahane again hiding down the order.
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'Hiding' is a tad disrepectful for someone who has scored runs in every country
he may not have scored lots of runs in recent times. I guess it wsa a team decision to split up the left handers to disrupt the line of the pacemen.
I guess given a choice jinks would be saying he'd rather be out there.
And he is one of India's all time greatest close in fielders, irrespective of what runs he scores here or does not score, lets give some more respect to him m8
 
James said:
Any further views from the “biased home umpires” crowd on the fact that England had to review 2 out of their 3 wickets after the officials ruled in favour of India?
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Who's playing the 'biased' trumpet m8? i dont think the indian press media or players have ever whinged on that...
 
Come on England, one more wicket to the soft underbelly.
 
Ab Fan said:
The next one and half hour is tricky and so will be the morning hour. That is enough time for England to run through the Indian batting lineup at expense of what, 80 odd runs maybe.

At Headingley, we were two down going into Day 4 and bowled out before lunch. We have an example just few days ago.
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England not competent to chase 300 here . Its going to be tough. English batsmen generally like to play too many shots .
 
sharmaji said:
India v England test series quickly becoming a classic on the lines of Ind v Aus and Eng v Aus.
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There was nothing classic India vs England played in India. Any series (except involving minnows and SriLanka) played in England becomes watchable due to supporting wickets that allow lots of wickets to be taken as well as lots of rums to be scored.
 
PakPremi said:
There was nothing classic India vs England played in India. Any series (except involving minnows and SriLanka) played in England becomes watchable due to supporting wickets that allow lots of wickets to be taken as well as lots of rums to be scored.
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Have to agree with this. England do provide sporting wickets for visitors and gives them a chance to win. :inti
 
Bad light regulations are absolutely the worst thing in international cricket today. The sport loves shooting itself in the foot.

If I were Root, I'd take the team off given the match situation.
 
Light is not good enough to continue pacers so Root bring himself to Ball.
 
You're right. I agree.

PakPremi said:
There was nothing classic India vs England played in India. Any series (except involving minnows and SriLanka) played in England becomes watchable due to supporting wickets that allow lots of wickets to be taken as well as lots of rums to be scored.
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Fakhar Zaman should be ashamed. Even Jadeja is finding it easy to handle Moen Ali
 
PakPremi said:
There was nothing classic India vs England played in India. Any series (except involving minnows and SriLanka) played in England becomes watchable due to supporting wickets that allow lots of wickets to be taken as well as lots of rums to be scored.
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Yes I agree completely.
Very few times we provided bouncy wickets for eg Mohali on a couple of occasions, or Dharamshala 4th test against aus 2017 - our win in that test was so meritous
as a series on the whole, i felt the wickets for india vs SL 2015 played in SL were templates for wickets in subcontinent on the whole
they were even bounce, had somehting for all trades of bowlers on all days and also good to bat with ball coming on and ball spun on last 1.5 days.
I wish we in India prepared more such wickets for future series.
 
I know this sounds a bit biased, i enjoyed DK in the commie box
he did provide good insights and was entertaining
 
Justcrazy said:
Its easier said than done , England do not have bowlers who can blast out 3 - 4 quick wickets in a spell
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Not sure about quick wickets but guys like Wood, Saqib, Archer, Stone are capable of bowling quick spells when in rhythm. Eng would have loved to have one of those of this wicket to throw something different towards the batsmen.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Intriguing match. First session tmrw will determine the match.
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This particular statement gets rolled out a lot. Too much in fact. But on this particular occasion I do in fact agree. Tomorrow morning is The Session.
 
2 early wickets and Eng will fancy their chances to chase around 250.
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
I know this sounds a bit biased, i enjoyed DK in the commie box
he did provide good insights and was entertaining
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He is a good addition in my opinion as well and looks better than many other Indian commies who have much more experience, I mentioned that in his commentary thread too. If he keeps working hard on this he can get even better.
 
Buffet said:
2 early wickets and Eng will fancy their chances to chase around 250.
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We need to bat safely till lunch tomorrow and then ask Pant to go berzerk. A target of 350 is what we should aim for considering we are playing without Shami & Ashwin.
 
One hell of a batting performance.

Pitch looks dead as a dodo tho.

Or maybe English bowlers simply weren't able to extract any life out of it.

Very interesting Day 4 coming up.

See saw battle continues.

But India 70% there.

England need an Indian collapse and a great batting performance to win this test.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
They were struggling to reach even 100 runs in the Lords test. What makes you think that they can chase 250? :inti
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The same way where we almost lost the Rajkot test in 2016.....but then went on to pile 400s, 500s, 600s and 700s.

Cricket is psychological game too.

The partnerships in Lords deflated England beyond all hopes.

If they have to chase 250 here, they will atleast fight better.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
They were struggling to reach even 100 runs in the Lords test. What makes you think that they can chase 250? :inti
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Pitch is too good to bat right now and I don't see any sign of deterioration. Add that with a longer batting lineup.
 
I think Robinson and Woakes will run through Indian batting tomorrow morning. England will chase down 220 as the wicket will get better as the day progresses. The deluded guy will do his usual stuff for what he is known for to stay relevant over here :yk
 
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Buffet said:
Pitch is too good to bat right now and I don't see any sign of deterioration. Add that with a longer batting lineup.
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Genuine question:

Are you genuinely rooting against India or is this your jinx attempt to make India win?

Either way is fine...but would love to know.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
One hell of a batting performance.

Pitch looks dead as a dodo tho.

Or maybe English bowlers simply weren't able to extract any life out of it.

Very interesting Day 4 coming up.

See saw battle continues.

But India 70% there.

England need an Indian collapse and a great batting performance to win this test.
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With a collapse, Eng may not need great batting performance. Eng may be able to knock off most runs on day 4 before the pitch gets bad if it gets bad to start with.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
One hell of a batting performance.

Pitch looks dead as a dodo tho.

Or maybe English bowlers simply weren't able to extract any life out of it.

Very interesting Day 4 coming up.

See saw battle continues.

But India 70% there.

England need an Indian collapse and a great batting performance to win this test.
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Will 270 be enough?
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Genuine question:

Are you genuinely rooting against India or is this your jinx attempt to make India win?

Either way is fine...but would love to know.
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I am actually serious with comments. Not rooting against any team or jinxing. I think Eng should be able to get 250 runs if most runs are coming on day 4. Oval sometimes gets bad on 5th day. Chances will be a lot lower if they have to get most runs or survive on 5th day. Eng batting is poor, but Eng has a long batting lineup.

It won't be easy because India blowing unit is good, but I will give a good chance to Eng. They will be in a positive mood if they can pick up the last 7 wickets in 70-80 runs. It will be the opposite of when Indian tail added 90 runs to put them in different mood in lords. It matters a lot.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
If I remember correctly he said the same thing during Lords test and India won that match. Snakeyes 2.0 is here. :inti
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Lords was one of the unreal performances by a team to win. Similar to how Indians won in Gaba. Chances were slim, but it happened.

If you ask me to predict another 10 times, I will not give high odds for India to bowl out Eng in 50-60 overs. Predictions are just base rate estimates and doesn't mean predictions will be always right. It just means that chances of it's being right are higher (of course, I could be way off in predicting, but that's a different situation)

I think many of you are thinking 250 means 70-30 to India. I think 250 here may be closer to 50-50.
 
Saurav said:
Will 270 be enough?
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I don't know honestly.

I can see England crumbling chasing 220....

Also see them successfully chasing 250.

The ONLY thing I will predict is this:

Whatever you think will happen....mostly won't happen. :))

At the start of today's play I said the logical thing is to expect Indian collapse.

So it won't happen.

But something weird will happen. Not weird good. Just weird.

Actually we didn't collapse and something weird good happened. :))

So at this point, prediction is simply guess work in this series.

But gun to head, I do think 270 is defendable for the sole reason English batting lineup is filled with idiots.

If they get their head right, we would need atleast 300 to feel confident.
 
Rory Burns
Hameed
Bairstow
Moeen

Only God can predict whether these players will score or flop or throw away their wickets.

India will sleep well tonight.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
They were struggling to reach even 100 runs in the Lords test. What makes you think that they can chase 250? :inti
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I won't never back England chasing even 225. This English line up is fragile. Get Root out quickly , you are safe. England are in real danger already in this match.
 
Buffet said:
I am actually serious with comments. Not rooting against any team or jinxing. I think Eng should be able to get 250 runs if most runs are coming on day 4. Oval sometimes gets bad on 5th day. Chances will be a lot lower if they have to get most runs or survive on 5th day. Eng batting is poor, but Eng has a long batting lineup.

It won't be easy because India blowing unit is good, but I will give a good chance to Eng. They will be in a positive mood if they can pick up the last 7 wickets in 70-80 runs. It will be the opposite of when Indian tail added 90 runs to put them in different mood in lords. It matters a lot.
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I agree.

It really depends whether India will collapse or not.

If they don't, the result is a foregone conclusion.

If they do, then the game is 50-50.
 
It was extremely good batting by India to wipe out 100 runs and then take 170 lead with only 3 down. Indians will surely sleep better.
 
100 more runs from here on and we've got this in the bag.

There is no way on earth England are chasing 270+ in the fourth innings.
 
England is not chasing anything. This match is lost by them and they squandered it by a poor first innings batting effort
 
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sensible-indian-fan said:
I don't know honestly.

I can see England crumbling chasing 220....

Also see them successfully chasing 250.

The ONLY thing I will predict is this:

Whatever you think will happen....mostly won't happen. :))

At the start of today's play I said the logical thing is to expect Indian collapse.

So it won't happen.

But something weird will happen. Not weird good. Just weird.

Actually we didn't collapse and something weird good happened. :))

So at this point, prediction is simply guess work in this series.

But gun to head, I do think 270 is defendable for the sole reason English batting lineup is filled with idiots.

If they get their head right, we would need atleast 300 to feel confident.
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Yes. Rohit scored a century. :inti
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Rory Burns
Hameed
Bairstow
Moeen

Only God can predict whether these players will score or flop or throw away their wickets.

India will sleep well tonight.
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I have never seen such a rubbish English opening pair. They are certainly not the successor of Gooch, Arthherton, Alec Stewart, Cook, Strauss.
 
Mainul said:
I have never seen such a rubbish English opening pair. They are certainly not the successor of Gooch, Arthherton, Alec Stewart, Cook, Strauss.
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Remember Jade Dernbach?

He was so rubbish that opposition fans used to get annoyed.

Thats how bad some English batsmen are.

But don't count them out yet.

This ain't that series.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
They were struggling to reach even 100 runs in the Lords test. What makes you think that they can chase 250? :inti
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There was a very different psychological context that sat behind that one. And the wicket was still a little bit lively as well. Every match is different.
 
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