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I'm sure there may be a thread somewhere buried away on this, but I came across a post on FB with the following Indo-Pak All Time XI

Playing XI:

Sachin Tendulkar
Sourav Ganguly
Rahul Dravid
Javed Mianded
Inzaman-ul-Haq
Mahendra Singh Dhoni
Imran Khan
Wasim Akram
Anil Kumble
Waqar Younis
Saeed Ajmal

Substitutes: Yuvraj Singh, Shoaib Akthar, Shahid Afridi and Saeed Anwar.

So what do you make of the above team and what changes would you make?

PS. I skimmed through the article and it looks like the team is for ODI's
 
Ganguly
Tendulkar
Kohli
Inzi
Javed
MSD
IK
Kapil
Wasim
Saqlain
Waqar

Reserves: Ajmal, Yuvraj, Anwar, Akhtar.

Lol Dravid in an ODI All time side?
 
I will point out 3 biggest issue with your list. We can argue about many small things here and there but you have 3 big problems in your list.


  1. Dravid ? He doesn't belong there in all time combined Asian XI for ODI.
  2. You don't have the best ODI all rounder of his era, Dev. He should be pretty much first few players when making this list.
  3. Saqlain should be always in this list. If you need to put two spinners for sure then get Murali as well. You can't have any better pair of spinners for ODIs. Ajmal and Kumble will come after them in my opinion.


Ganguly
Tendulkar
Kohli
Inzi
Javed
MSD
IK
Kapil
Wasim
Saqlain
Waqar

Reserves: Ajmal, Yuvraj, Anwar, Akhtar.

Pretty much on target and hard to find flaws with this one.
 
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Tendulkar Ganguly Kohli Inzi Javed Dhoni Kapil Imran Wasim Waqar Saqlain. Subs: Yuvraj Anwar Akhtar Murali Sehwag
 
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[*]Saqlain should be always in this list. If you need to put two spinners for sure then get Murali as well. You can't have any better pair of spinners for ODIs. Ajmal and Kumble will come after them in my opinion.
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It's Indo-Pak...
 
Just make sure there is one more Pakistani in the team then an Indian:)
 
I think, in ODI, the balance of power is too much shifted in favor of PAK. Despite having a much vaunted team (which had probably most of India's 'll time XI), IND is just slightly a head in H2H in last 13-14 years; but overall still PAK is way a head. I must add that, during 90s, IND-PAK played not many bilateral series, otherwise this ratio would have been even more one-sided. PAK's bowling made the real gap & it's not surprising that, PAK result against IND is probably best where IND is strongest - at Home. A lot of Indian Cricket Intellectuals try to cast PAK ODI supremacy over IND due to so many matches in UAE (Main reason for BCCI not playing in UAE), but someone should check IND-PAK ODI results in IND (& that too, 2Ws hardly playing in IND).

My team 'll be (12 men & 4 reserves)

1. Tendulkar
2. Anwar
3. Zaheer
4. Javed
5. Inzi
6. Imran (C)
7. MSD (VC)
8. Kapil/Razzak
9. Akram (VC)
10. Waquar/Kumble
11. Ajmal/Saqlin
12. Ganguly/Sehwag


Ganguly/Sehwag 'll be 12th man, ideally, if only any of the batters gets injured from XI, one of them 'll play. Normally, Waquar 'll start, unless the match is played in IND (Kumble replaces him there); between Ajmal & Saqui - very little to choose, but I took Ajmal because it was definitely much easier for Saq to bowl along with Was, Waq, Aaq, Akt & Mush. Razzak is the 16th man, just in case if either of IK or KD are injured.

I am not surprised at all to see Zaheer Abbas hardly been picked, because hardly any of us have seen him live. Guys, he was the second best ODI player of his time, unfortunately, that's the maximum he could have raised. Not only him, so far, no body 'll replace the Numerous UNO in ODI; who played during the same time of Zaheer Abbas. Also, the greatest fan that I am, still if I am to pick a single all-rounder for ODI, JUST AS A PLAYER, I think I 'll pick Kapil over Imran - brilliant new ball bowler, outstanding all-round fielder & a match winning demolisher, batting at 7/8. Imran makes the team for his leadership & conventional batting as well, for which, I put him at 6, a head of even MSD. In future, may be VK might replace Inzi & play at No. 3, pushing Zed at 5. Between Ganguly & Anwar, I think Anwar was just a bit better player of fast bowling while both were brilliant against spin (but Anwar better striker of Spin). Gangully indeed could bowl a bit, but with 6 bowlers & Tendulkar in the team, I don't think his part-time medium -pacers should be counted.

Biggest controversy could be, IND being reputed for their batting strength, but only 1 of them making the cut. But, my logic is, IND had been a better batting side oblate (since 90s) because of their overall batting strength & depth. A side always having 4/5 world class players in their line up; while PAK batting since 80s has always been revolving around 1/2 individuals, who had been outstanding, almost carrying the side, like Javed in 80s, Inzi in best part of 2000s. In early to mid 90s, when PAK had a IND like depth, they were indeed a great batting side. I also, have considered the value of the run & therefore despite having a brilliant record, MoYo misses out to Sehwag. Also, I picked Zaeer, Javed & Inzi at 3, 4 & 5 because they were simply master of their spot. There had been hardly a better ODI player than Javed at 4 while probably hardly anybody influenced the game more than Inzi, batting at 5.

I think, on pure ODI Captaincy merit, MSD could be slightly ahead, because ODI is the most defensive form of Cricket & MS is a master of that; but I picked Imran for that an all -time XI with so many great cricketers should be led by someone as Charismatic as King Khan.

So, 3 Indian & 8 Pakistani in XI ( 6 & 10 in squad), with the Captaincy splited.
 
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My odi 11

Anwar
Tendulkar
Kohli
Inzy
javed
Imran
Dhoni
Wasim
Waqar
Saqi
Akhter
 
Anwar << I'd rather have Anwar over Ganguly anyday!
Tendulkar
Kohli
Inzi
Javed
MSD
IK
Kapil
Wasim
Saqlain
Waqar

Reserves: Yuvraj, Akhtar, Ganguly, Ajmal

Anwar for Ganguly is the only change I would make in the starting XI, with Ganguly in reserve =p I like Ganguly but Anwar was better for me. Still, not much to take, this is pretty much the best side we could play!

Also, playing Yuvi over Inzi or Javed, and Akhtar over Waqar aren't bad choices. Ajmal would practically never play ahead of Saqi though!
 
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Saeed Anwar
Ganguly
Virat Kohli
Inzi
Javed Miandad
Imran Khan C
Rashid Latif +
Wasim
Waqar
Saqi
Akhtar

Reserves: Dravid, SRT, Ajmal
 
Anwar for Ganguly is the only change I would make in the starting XI, with Ganguly in reserve =p I like Ganguly but Anwar was better for me. Still, not much to take, this is pretty much the best side we could play!

Also, playing Yuvi over Inzi or Javed, and Akhtar over Waqar aren't bad choices. Ajmal would practically never play ahead of Saqi though!

Actually, Ganguly also was a very useful part-time seamer and as a tactician he was superb. He could very well lead the side. And IMO, Ganguly was better than Anwar in ODI.
 
Anwar (pak's best odi batsman)
Tendulkar

Ganguly (c)
Inzi / Kohli
Miandad
Dhoni
Imran
Razzaq / Kapil (kapil is better, but razzaq is one of my favourites)
Wasim
Saqlain
Ajmal

Both Ajmal and Saqlain need to be played. Would be criminal to even leave one of them out in ODIs!
I always liked Ganguly the odi captain and I think with ATG bowlers nothing can stop him.
 
Sachin
Ganguly
Kohli
Yuvraj
Miandad
Dhoni (C) (W)
Kapil
Imran
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain
 
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As much as I hate to say this, Javed and Imran don't belong in the ODI team. They just didn't have the S/R to justify inclusion in an ODI team. The only Pak batsmen who is a shoo in should be Zaheer as [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] pointed out. To make it in the team, you have to have a S/R of 80+ as a batsman

Sehwag
Saeed
Zaheer
Kohli
Tendulkar
MSD+
Kapil
Imran* (He makes the team as a bowler)
Wasim
Ajmal
Saqi
Waqar 12th man
 
Sachin
Ganguly
Kohli
Yuvraj
Inzi
Dhoni (C) (W)
Kapil
Imran
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain

Pretty much my team
Yuvraj was a much better ODI player compared to Inzi as he was a great part time bowler and a good fielder as well.
Not to mention much more destructive with bat and has an LOI average only slightly below Inzi. Strike rate is much higher. Scored 3 more centuries despite playing much less no of games.

He is clearly over Inzi as far as I am concerned.

Also Miandad in ODI had lower strike rate then even Dravid. So I am replacing him with Inzi.

I am even tempted to play Sehwag at no 6(in place of Inzi) and push Dhoni at no 5. But that would not be based on facts but my personal judgement.

But I think this team is very very strong

Ganguly
Sachin
Kohli
Yuvraj
Dhoni (C) (W)
Sehwag
Kapil
Imran
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain
 
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Sachin
Anwar
Kohli
Inzi
Yuvraj
Imran
MSD
Afridi
Wasim
Ajmal
Waqar

No way Kohli doesn't make any side, and Javed just misses the top 5 batsmen of all time Indo-Pak team at ODI's not above Kohli, Inzi or ODI superstar Yuvraj. Afridi can't miss out either, and adding Indian bowlers for inclusion quota is just wrong.
 
Tendulkar
Sehwag
Ganguly
Kohli
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Dev (capt)
Imran
Akram
Saqlain
Akhtar


Inzamam is overrated, Miandad misses out to all rounders in Kapil and Imran. Kumble/Bhaj miss out for a more attacking Saqlain. Rest of the players pretty much pick themselves.
 
1.ganguly
2. Sachin
3. Virat
4. Zaheer Abbas
5. Inzi
6. Dhoni- wk, c
7. Abdul razzaq
8. Wasim
9. Salquain
10. Shoaib
11. Waqad
 
People complaining about miandads avge need to realise he was playing in a different era when strike rates and run rates were a lot lower

Ask anyone from the 80s and theyd consider miandad as one of the best mid order batsmen in odi cricket throughout that era
 
Tendulkar
Sehwag
Ganguly
Kohli
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Dev (capt)
Imran
Akram
Saqlain
Akhtar


Inzamam is overrated, Miandad misses out to all rounders in Kapil and Imran. Kumble/Bhaj miss out for a more attacking Saqlain. Rest of the players pretty much pick themselves.

Sorry but Ganguly cannot make the team on S/R of 73. Akhtar leaked too many runs in ODIs.
 
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Saeed Anwar
Tendulkar
Abdul Razzaq/Ganguly
Inzamam
Dravid
Dhoni (wk,c)
Afridi
Akram
Saqlain
Akhtar
Asif
 
Sorry but Ganguly cannot make the team on S/R of 73. Akhtar leaked too many runs in ODIs. And no one in India is going to be watching a match that does not include you know who.

Ganguly was a big match/tourney player.
 
Yuvraj over Inzi is fair, but Dravid over Javed isn't, cuz Javed could win you the tough games. Ganguly over Anwar... well, I think if you saw Anwar play, the only way you'd choose Ganguly over him was if you were an Indian fan, although that's fair too I guess.
 
Yuvraj over Inzi is fair, but Dravid over Javed isn't, cuz Javed could win you the tough games. Ganguly over Anwar... well, I think if you saw Anwar play, the only way you'd choose Ganguly over him was if you were an Indian fan, although that's fair too I guess.

Yuvraj>Inzy (utility wise in a dream team studded with legends)
Miandad > Dravid ( same SR but more creative ODI player/much better finisher)
Ganguly = Anwar ( Honestly won't mind Anwar over him, Ganguly just has some popular ODI knocks to his name, especially in big games)

I saw Anwar play, he was fantastic, so was Ganguly only with more attitude.
 
Yuvraj over Inzi is fair, but Dravid over Javed isn't, cuz Javed could win you the tough games. Ganguly over Anwar... well, I think if you saw Anwar play, the only way you'd choose Ganguly over him was if you were an Indian fan, although that's fair too I guess.

Yuvraj>Inzy (utility wise in a dream team studded with legends)
Miandad > Dravid ( same SR but more creative ODI player/much better finisher)
Ganguly = Anwar ( Honestly won't mind Anwar over him, Ganguly just has some popular ODI knocks to his name, especially in big games)

I saw Anwar play, he was fantastic, so was Ganguly only with more attitude.
 
1.Virender Sehwag
2.Saeed Anwar
3.Rahul Dravid
4.Sachin Tendulkar
5.Yuvraj Singh
6.MS Dhoni
7.Shahid Afridi
8.Imran Khan(c)
9.Wasim Akram
10.Waqar Younis
11.Saqlain Mushtaq
Virat Kohli
Shoaib Akhtar
Inzamam
Saeed Ajmal
 
I would say,

Tendulkar
Anwar
Kohli
Abbas
Inzamam
Dhoni(wkt)
Kapil
Imran
Wasim
Saqlain
Waqar
 
Pakistan ODI team has underachieved massively, very massively.
 
It’s so tight because aside from tendulkar and now kohli, most of our ATG match up very well to each other. Aside from SRT and kohli i think the pak players have an edge

1.Sachin- the greatest?
2.Saeed Anwar- classiest pak batsman wish i saw him live, unfortunately im too young so highlights will have to do
3.Zaheer abbas- the run machine “ab bas kardo” legendary pak batsman, maybe the best ever batsman pakistan has ever produced
4.Virat Kohli- lets be real, this guy has a long career of breakin records ahead of him
5. Inzimam- idk who i would pick here, inzi had a habit of getting run out, javed was masterclass and a great leader and yuvi is also a great player who in his prime was incredibly dangerous
6.MS Dhoni- best finisher for a long time, one of the most admired indian players even by pakistanis
7.Kapil dev
8.Imran Khan(c) kaptaaaaaan
9.Wasim Akram
10.Waqar Younis
11.Saqlain Mushtaq
Ajmal
Yuvraj
Razzaq
Javed Miandad
 
Indo-Pak all time ODI XI:-

Tendulkar
Anwar
Kohli
Miandad
Yuvraj
Dhoni(C/wkt)
Imran
Kapil
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain

Indo-Pak A team:-

Sehwag
Ganguly(c)
Abbas
Azharuddin
Inzamam
Razzaq
Moin(wkt)
Harbhajan
Zaheer
Ajmal
Akhtar

Indo-Pak B team:-

Dhawan
Rohit
Gambhir
Dravid
Yousuf
Sarfaraz(wkt)
Afridi
Agarkar
Kumble
Gul
Srinath

Raina can also come in place of Gambhir to add a bit more bowling. Raina will bat at 5 then and Dravid/Moyo at 3/4.
 
In ODIs, Dhoni is arguably the greatest captain the game has seen.

Imran gets the nod perhaps in tests.
 
Sachin
Saeed Anwar
Kohli
Zaheer Abbas
Inzimam ul Haq
Dhoni (c) (wk)
Afridi (as spin bowling all rounder)
Kapil
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain
 
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Anwar
Sehwag
Teenda
Kohli
Inzi
Dhoni
Yuvraj
Imran Khan
Wasim
Saqi
Waqar

It is hard to see any Indian bowler in the side. We don't have much to offer as batsmen.
 
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Yuvi in place of Afridi?

I think the batting is already well covered, but Afridi would add another spin option to complement Saqlain, and also with such middle order, his hitting down the order (with Kapil's) will prove to be fateful.
 
1. Sachin Tendulkar
2. Sourav Ganguly
3. Virat Kohli
4. Javed Miandad
5. Yuvraj Singh
6. MS Dhoni
7. Imran Khan
8. Shahid Afridi
9. Wasim Akram
10. Waqar Younis
11. Saqlain Mushtaq

Kapil misses out unfortunately because I wanted 3 best fast bowlers from Asia and 2 spinners.
 
Sachin
Saeed Anwar
Kohli
Zaheer Abbas
Inzimam ul Haq
Dhoni (c) (wk)
Afridi (as spin bowling all rounder)
Kapil
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain

Instead of Afridi play Imran Khan and let's see who wins against this team.

Saqi alone is enough to take a 5fer on a spinning track!
 
Yuvi in place of Afridi?

Afridi is a late-middle order slogger who will prevent Dhoni from drying up the run flow. Yuvraj is a clean hitter but he can't slog from ball 1 unlike Afridi. Afridi is actually a pretty great utility for a strong team to provide balance. It's just the Pakistan expected too much of him to score decent regularly.

Also by current standard, Afridi would be striking at at least 135. That's not even counting his bowling (Afridi is good enough for a full time spinner as well)
 
Yuvraj at its peak was as good a spin bowler as Afridi was. It is just that Afridi was consistently Pakistan 5th bowler while Yuvraj wasn't except for few years.

In the XI, Kapil is a certain and if required, the sixth bowling option(2nd spin) can be done by Yuvraj who was a great middle order batter, a fantastic fielder and brilliant in running between the wickets as well. On a turner, Waqar misses out because he wasn't that great as an ODI bowler and to be replaced by Harbhajan.

Tendulkar
Anwar
Kohli
Abbas/Miandad
Yuvraj
Dhoni(C/wkt)
Kapil
Imran
Wasim
Waqar/Harbhajan
Saqlain
 
Top 6 batsmen from India,

Sachin
Sehwag
Kohli
Inzamam *
Yuvraj
Dhoni (C)
Kapil

4 bowlers from Pak.
 
Yuvraj at its peak was as good a spin bowler as Afridi was. It is just that Afridi was consistently Pakistan 5th bowler while Yuvraj wasn't except for few years.

In the XI, Kapil is a certain and if required, the sixth bowling option(2nd spin) can be done by Yuvraj who was a great middle order batter, a fantastic fielder and brilliant in running between the wickets as well. On a turner, Waqar misses out because he wasn't that great as an ODI bowler and to be replaced by Harbhajan.

Tendulkar
Anwar
Kohli
Abbas/Miandad
Yuvraj
Dhoni(C/wkt)
Kapil
Imran
Wasim
Waqar/Harbhajan
Saqlain

Afridi the bowler at his best could be used as a specialist spinner while Yuvi imo is more in the Hafeez range, perhaps a bit better than the likes of Shoaib Malik. He won't make it into an Asian XI as a spin bowler alone.

And in fact Afridi's figures are not that different from Harbhajan's in ODIs, and his SR is even better (ofc being a leggie that was expected). That's not even talking of his batting, which in this case can in fact even been seen as some "bonus", his usual slogging (25-30 @ SR 120-130) being instrumental when the openers/middle order have already established a good total. The same for Kapil's batting. On the other hand, a Yuvi who more often than not will come late in such batting line up, will do what ? A consuming little cameo (25-30 but way way slower) ? It's in keeping the batting strenght that I make the case for Afridi : with Tendulkar, Anwar, Kohli, Zaheer Abbas, Inzy and Dhoni, the Afridi option is more interesting, while Yuvi might just kill off the momentum.

And also why isn't Waqar a great ODI bowler ? From among the fast bowlers, he comes second in the wickets tally, 400 @ average 23, just after Wasim Akram (500 @ 23).
 
Sachin
Ganguly/ anwar
Kohli
Javed
Yuvi
Dhoni
Kapil
Afridi
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain
Kapil case is similar to afridi,his odi bowling status similar to imran,infact his economy is even better than imran.in last slog over kapil,afridi are gold for any team.2 best fast bowler,1 best spiner.2 all-rounder and lot of 6th bowling option
 
Yuvraj at its peak was as good a spin bowler as Afridi was. It is just that Afridi was consistently Pakistan 5th bowler while Yuvraj wasn't except for few years.

In the XI, Kapil is a certain and if required, the sixth bowling option(2nd spin) can be done by Yuvraj who was a great middle order batter, a fantastic fielder and brilliant in running between the wickets as well. On a turner, Waqar misses out because he wasn't that great as an ODI bowler and to be replaced by Harbhajan.

Tendulkar
Anwar
Kohli
Abbas/Miandad
Yuvraj
Dhoni(C/wkt)
Kapil
Imran
Wasim
Waqar/Harbhajan
Saqlain

You've got 3 of the greatest fast bowlers of all time, so why have Kapil in there? He adds nothing to the side in all honesty. His bowling isn't good enough andh is batting is no better than AFridi.

Plus, AFridi has to be in any all time ODI side.

1. Tendulkar (could play anywhere in the top 4)
2. Anwar
3. Kohli
4. Miandad (need the grit and scurrying runs)
5. Yousuf (sooo underrated)
6. Dhoni wk
7. Afridi
8. Khan
9. Wasim
10. Ajmal
11. Waqar

Harbhajan, Sehwag and Saqlain all round off the squad.
 
Afridi the bowler at his best could be used as a specialist spinner while Yuvi imo is more in the Hafeez range, perhaps a bit better than the likes of Shoaib Malik. He won't make it into an Asian XI as a spin bowler alone.

And in fact Afridi's figures are not that different from Harbhajan's in ODIs, and his SR is even better (ofc being a leggie that was expected). That's not even talking of his batting, which in this case can in fact even been seen as some "bonus", his usual slogging (25-30 @ SR 120-130) being instrumental when the openers/middle order have already established a good total. The same for Kapil's batting. On the other hand, a Yuvi who more often than not will come late in such batting line up, will do what ? A consuming little cameo (25-30 but way way slower) ? It's in keeping the batting strenght that I make the case for Afridi : with Tendulkar, Anwar, Kohli, Zaheer Abbas, Inzy and Dhoni, the Afridi option is more interesting, while Yuvi might just kill off the momentum.

And also why isn't Waqar a great ODI bowler ? From among the fast bowlers, he comes second in the wickets tally, 400 @ average 23, just after Wasim Akram (500 @ 23).

Waqar was a fantastic strike bowler but used to leak lot of runs as compared to other high quality ODI bowlers of his era- Wasim, McGrath, Donald, Pollock etc. His ER is 4.7 which isn't great. ER plays a big role in ODIs. He didnt do well in WC either. A great bowler nevertheless, but as an overall package, Wasim, Imran and Kapil are superior I feel.

Waqar will be in my team unless it is a turner where I want two full-time spinners and third one can be someone like Yuvraj.
 
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Yuvraj at its peak was as good a spin bowler as Afridi was. It is just that Afridi was consistently Pakistan 5th bowler while Yuvraj wasn't except for few years.

In the XI, Kapil is a certain and if required, the sixth bowling option(2nd spin) can be done by Yuvraj who was a great middle order batter, a fantastic fielder and brilliant in running between the wickets as well. On a turner, Waqar misses out because he wasn't that great as an ODI bowler and to be replaced by Harbhajan.

Tendulkar
Anwar
Kohli
Abbas/Miandad
Yuvraj
Dhoni(C/wkt)
Kapil
Imran
Wasim
Waqar/Harbhajan
Saqlain

Afridi was as good as a full time spinner when he started taking bowling seriously. He took 238 wickets in 192 innings from 2005-2015 with an economy of 4.63. Yuvraj was always a part timer.
 
Afridi was as good as a full time spinner when he started taking bowling seriously. He took 238 wickets in 192 innings from 2005-2015 with an economy of 4.63. Yuvraj was always a part timer.

He was a good fifth bowling option but in an all-time XI, I would want a genuine bowler as my 5th option because I have Imran and Kapil as all-rounders. On turner, I will go with Harbhajan who was a very very good ODI spinner. Kumble averages 30 in ODI but still he was not better than Harbhajan.
 
You've got 3 of the greatest fast bowlers of all time, so why have Kapil in there? He adds nothing to the side in all honesty. His bowling isn't good enough andh is batting is no better than AFridi.

Plus, AFridi has to be in any all time ODI side.

1. Tendulkar (could play anywhere in the top 4)
2. Anwar
3. Kohli
4. Miandad (need the grit and scurrying runs)
5. Yousuf (sooo underrated)
6. Dhoni wk
7. Afridi
8. Khan
9. Wasim
10. Ajmal
11. Waqar

Harbhajan, Sehwag and Saqlain all round off the squad.

Kapil's batting was much superior than Afridi. You cant compare stats one-on-one. In Kapil's era, we have aggressive batters like Greenidge/Miandad having SR of 65. Kapil's bowling was great as well. His ER is under 4 as well and he was the lone-warrior in bowling department. He was ranked no.1 all-rounder all through the decade for no small reasons.
 
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He was a good fifth bowling option but in an all-time XI, I would want a genuine bowler as my 5th option because I have Imran and Kapil as all-rounders. On turner, I will go with Harbhajan who was a very very good ODI spinner. Kumble averages 30 in ODI but still he was not better than Harbhajan.

Afridi was not the 5th bowler, that was Hafeez. Afridi played as the second spinner with Ajmal.
 
Afridi was not the 5th bowler, that was Hafeez. Afridi played as the second spinner with Ajmal.

Point is why to pick Afridi when there are better options? Afridi was very talented both with bat and ball but he cared least about his batting and was just okay as a spinner- nowhere near Harbhajan.

I will have Afridi in an Indo-Pak T20 XI but I dont see him getting into an all-time Indo-Pak ODI XI.
 
Tendulkar
Sehwag
Kohli
Yuvi
Dhoni(wk and captain)
Kapil
Afridi
Wasim
Saqlain
Shoaib
Waqar

Rest :imran, Anwar ganguly Kumble
 
Tendulkar
Anwar
Zaheer Abbas
Yuvraj Singh
Javed Miandad
Imran Khan
Kapil Dev
Dhoni
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain

Thats MY team.
 
Point is why to pick Afridi when there are better options? Afridi was very talented both with bat and ball but he cared least about his batting and was just okay as a spinner- nowhere near Harbhajan.

I will have Afridi in an Indo-Pak T20 XI but I dont see him getting into an all-time Indo-Pak ODI XI.

It is your team so you can pick anyone but Afridi beats Harbhajan in batting and fielding by a big margin. He was not far behind in bowling in his peak years.

Afridi is a luxury player who has an immense utility in a strong team but a burden on a weaker team.
 
Sehwag
Ganguly( captain )
Tendulkar
Kohli
Yuvraj or afridi
Ms dhoni
Kapil dev
Imran khan
Wasim akram
Waqar
Saqlain

I have four pacers: kapil,imran,wasim ,waqar.

One spinner saqlain or if two spinners required then might play afridi in place of yuvraj. Although sehwag,tendulkar can also bowl spin.
Dangerous batting line up till n.o 8. All batsman till n.o 8 can bat really best and with wasim akram coming at n.ò 9.
Extra -
gautam gambhir -,very underrated .he always performs in big matches.
Abdul razzaq - very good alrounder .
Harbhajan - he was a genuine fighter.
 
Quite frankly all indians and pakistanis know that you wont find any oakistani batsman in this team and indian fans know that you wont find any indian bowler in this team.nothing else.
 
Quite frankly all indians and pakistanis know that you wont find any oakistani batsman in this team and indian fans know that you wont find any indian bowler in this team.nothing else.

Not true. No Indian middle order batsman is as good as Zaheer or Miandad.
 
Not true. No Indian middle order batsman is as good as Zaheer or Miandad.

I have ms dhoni ,yuvraj , virat kohli playing in middle order . I am not sure miadad or zaheer even comes half closer to them.
Yuvraj one of the best fielder ,good spinner , best odi batsman with man of the tournament in 2011 world cup plus who can forget his hitting ability.he has won uncountable matches to india.
Ms dhoni - well he would be even in world 11 odi team ,may be will have some competition with gilchrist but msd will get be ahead..
Kohli - well well well.
 
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I have ms dhoni ,yuvraj , virat kohli playing in middle order . I am not sure miadad or zaheer even comes half closer to them.
Yuvraj one of the best fielder ,good spinner , best odi batsman with man of the tournament in 2011 world cup plus who can forget his hitting ability.he has won uncountable matches to india.
Ms dhoni - well he would be even in world 11 odi team ,may be will have some competition with gilchrist but msd will be ahead..
Kohli - well well well.

Plus we are not here to play test matches to include miadad or zaheer. I would add sunil gavaskar or rahul dravid etc batsman otherwise.
 
Plus we are not here to play test matches to include miadad or zaheer. I would add sunil gavaskar or rahul dravid etc batsman otherwise.

Both Miandad and Zaheer were better ODI batsmen than tests. Miandad specially was very clutch and the first great ODI batsman from Asia. Zaheer was only second to Viv.
 
Plus we are not here to play test matches to include miadad or zaheer. I would add sunil gavaskar or rahul dravid etc batsman otherwise.

Zaheer Abbas had a ODI SR of 85 in the 1970s...

The only reason he isn't often in the discussion is because he only played 60 ODIs. His numbers are second only to Viv from that era, and not by much.
 
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Both Miandad and Zaheer were better ODI batsmen than tests. Miandad specially was very clutch and the first great ODI batsman from Asia. Zaheer was only second to Viv.

I cant trade him for yuvraj singh.
Yuvraj was man of the tournament in both world cups india won t20 and 2011 50 overs.
Yuvraj is fabulous fitness freak ,excellent runner and fielder. ( odi these days needs alot of preferance to good fielders )
Yuvraj can bowl good left arm spin .
I am sure we will not need to debate on ms dhoni and virat kohli.
 
Sachin
Anwar
Miandad
Kohli
Zaheer (SR of 85 in 70s....)
Dhoni
Imran
Kapil
Akram
Saqlain
Waqar

Bench: Inzemama, Sehwag, Ganguly, Saeed Ajmal, Shoaib Akhtar
 
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