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India reach 69/0 at Stumps on Day 2 with a lead of 322 after bowling out New Zealand for 62

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lmao keep telling yourself that.

As if NZ, SL and Pakistani batsmen wouldn't kill for 4 match series every 2-3 years in top countries.

But nah, 2 match series with no warm ups are the way to go. Play your 2 Tests as warm ups and as your acclimatizing boom, series over.

I get your point that longer series gives experience, but it is far more difficult to beat a team away in a 4 or a 5 match series than a 2 match series where you need just a few things to fall your way to draw the series or even win it. Sri Lanka won 1-0 against England in England in a 2 match series in 2014.

Just a few months later, India would go on to lead the series 1-0 after the first two matches, they would be adjudged the winners if the series had ended then. But England recovered and gave an absolute shellacking to India in the next 3 tests and won the series 3-1 comfortably. In a longer 4 or 4 match series, the better team almost always prevails than in a 2 match series or a one off test. And the home team more often than not tends to be the better team, certainly teams like Australia and India at home.
 
Still cant believe how they were 62 ao.
Siraj and umesh bowled magnificiently. You'd think NZ with so much experience of playing pace, would handle them easily.
Hope gill is not hurt bad and comes out to bat and gets a big one in the second dig.
 
Pujara hits a six!

Will wonders never cease to exist?
 
Pujara could have gone in last over if NZ didn't forget to review.
 
India cross 1st innings NZ total without losing any wickets....
 
NZ 62
IND 325 & 69/0 (21) CRR: 3.29
Day 2: Stumps - India lead by 332 runs
 
lmao keep telling yourself that.

As if NZ, SL and Pakistani batsmen wouldn't kill for 4 match series every 2-3 years in top countries.

But nah, 2 match series with no warm ups are the way to go. Play your 2 Tests as warm ups and as your acclimatizing boom, series over.

Lol. Talk about being clueless [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] . If you really think NZ will win in Australia with a larger schedule, then good luck with that . FYI, NZ could not win a series in SL either.
 
Lol. Talk about being clueless [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] . If you really think NZ will win in Australia with a larger schedule, then good luck with that . FYI, NZ could not win a series in SL either.

If NZ play longer series, their players will burn out and their trundlers will succumb and end up their careers... Their team will go worse than Bangladesh... That's why they prefer these short bursts to surprise opposition, they simply don't have in them to endure in tough conditions...
 
Ajaz Patel created history, becoming only the third bowler to take all 10 wickets in a Test innings, but despite that India were well in control by stumps on the second day in Mumbai.

India ended the day with a commanding lead of 332 after bundling New Zealand out for just 62 in their reply to India’s first innings 325. R Ashwin took a splendid 4/8, while Mohammed Siraj’s opening burst of three wickets set the ball rolling.

But such was the magnitude of Ajaz’s achievement, that’ll remain the highlight of the day. India resumed the morning on 221/4, but Ajaz picked up where he left off on day one, with a double strike in his first over of the morning. He had Wriddhiman Saha and Ashwin dismissed in consecutive balls, the first time he’d picked up six wickets in a Test innings – there would be more.

Subtle variations of pace and flight were effective for the left-armer, who continued to roll on when the Black Caps elected to take the new ball. However, after those two early wickets, Agarwal and Axar knuckled down, putting on an important stand of 67 to help boost the total past 300.

The Indian duo waited for the poor deliveries, and when they came, they made sure to put them away. Agarwal carried on following his impressive century on day one, cutting one away to reach 150 shortly after lunch. However, the stand was broken shortly thereafter, Ajaz inducing an edge off Agarwal.

Axar carried on to bring up his maiden Test half-century, but was dismissed off a smart review from New Zealand, with Ajaz trapping him in front for 52. The final two wickets fell in quick succession – Jayant Yadav and Siraj both holed out – but it must have felt like an age to Ajaz, who created history.

Unfortunately for New Zealand, they couldn’t bask in it. The Indian bowlers were in red-hot form, with Siraj’s opening burst setting up the innings for his side. He first had Will Young caught at slips, angling one into off stump. He then had Tom Latham done by a bouncer, with Shreyas Iyer taking the catch at deep square leg, and in his next over, he cleaned up the veteran Ross Taylor for 1.

Later, Ashwin returned 4 for 8 - snaring Henry Nicholls, Tom Blundell, Tim Southee and Will Somerville. Kyle Jamieson hung around for a 36-ball 17, but the fact that he was the only New Zealand batter to reach double figures, after Latham's 10, was telling.

Virat Kohli decided not to enforce the follow-on, and the Indian openers went about piling on the runs. Agarwal and Cheteshwar Pujara put on an unbeaten 69-run to boost their lead before bad light ensured stumps were drawn.
 
If NZ play longer series, their players will burn out and their trundlers will succumb and end up their careers... Their team will go worse than Bangladesh... That's why they prefer these short bursts to surprise opposition, they simply don't have in them to endure in tough conditions...

To be fair, I actually think they are a skilled side in certain conditions. Even on long tours, they will probably be as good as England are on long tours. I just dont think they are as good as [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] thinks they are :rabada2
 
Wow! Eventful day.

India can bat out the whole day tomorrow but they probably would want to declare earlier (chance of rain).
 
Wickets having no turn and 20 overs being lost due to light allowed NZ to escape with a draw, but it was a decent performance in the first test. Half of the Indian team was rested and they had a golden chance to win, but couldn't do it despite being ahead many times.

I never expected NZ to actually do well in India, but it has been a poor effort in 2nd test. Except for one bowler, others went missing. I expected some fight. India is again batting on the same pitch and they are doing fine. I guess NZ can play well in conditions similar to home and I was expecting them to carry a bit more weight in different conditions.
 
Wickets having no turn and 20 overs being lost due to light allowed NZ to escape with a draw, but it was a decent performance in the first test. Half of the Indian team was rested and they had a golden chance to win, but couldn't do it despite being ahead many times.

I never expected NZ to actually do well in India, but it has been a poor effort in 2nd test. Except for one bowler, others went missing. I expected some fight. India is again batting on the same pitch and they are doing fine. I guess NZ can play well in conditions similar to home and I was expecting them to carry a bit more weight in different conditions.


First test green park pitch was a notorious slow pitch where you have to bowl a lot of overs to get wickets. Siraj in place of washed up Ishant was all needed. Seamers completely botched it for India.
 
First test green park pitch was a notorious slow pitch where you have to bowl a lot of overs to get wickets. Siraj in place of washed up Ishant was all needed. Seamers completely botched it for India.

India should have been able to win no matter what team they put there. That's what I would expect. I don't think NZ can really bat time to save if pitch turns, but it was still a decent performance by NZ to get a draw.
 
Great performances from Ajaz and then Siraj in the heart of Mumbai. Some people definitely hurting, as usual.

The numbers of home bullies we have is massive indeed :ashwin

Bowling stats or batting stats, you just filter out the home stats and things just don't look as good.

Finally, even the hardcore Indian fans are opening their eyes. You thought Ashwin and Jadeja were special? Look at Axar Patel.

Had India lost the toss, it would be New Zealand ending the day with a massive lead instead.
 
Great performances from Ajaz and then Siraj in the heart of Mumbai. Some people definitely hurting, as usual.



Finally, even the hardcore Indian fans are opening their eyes. You thought Ashwin and Jadeja were special? Look at Axar Patel.

Had India lost the toss, it would be New Zealand ending the day with a massive lead instead.

Don’t think toss would have mattered here India have won matches in subcontinent batting 2 and 4 th . Azaj had a very ordinary bowling spell in Kanpur and compared to him Ind spinners did very well . If Ajaz can take all wickets in 1st innings in Mumbai then definitely Ashwin and Axar would have bowled out NZ under 200 as well . This is again theory of ifs and buts . Need to give credit to team that performs. Ross Taylor for whom fast pitches would be bread and butter was bamboozled by splendid delivery from Siraj. He paved the way for the Nz downfall .
 
No way in the world. Even after winning the toss NZ can not put 200+ on the board with or without Kane.
Conversely if Nz put 200+, then very high chances that Ind get 350+ in 1st essay( as bad as they are against spin and bounce, they are threefolds better than Nz batters and as good as Patel is, Ash, Jaddu are thrice the bowlers. Gujrati Patel is twice the bowler as Mumbaikar Patel.
Universal truth, if Nz even gets 250+ batting 1st with the likes of Bludnell, Nicholas etc then its a belter for batting and as weak as Ind batting is, there are high chances to post 400
 
If in any test match against India(whether in Ind or Nz or neutral venue), in the next 10 years, if Nz would found themselves 332 runs ahead with all 10 wickets remaining on day 2, I would rank them ahead of 1980s Wi and 2000s Aus.
 
Great performances from Ajaz and then Siraj in the heart of Mumbai. Some people definitely hurting, as usual.



Finally, even the hardcore Indian fans are opening their eyes. You thought Ashwin and Jadeja were special? Look at Axar Patel.

Had India lost the toss, it would be New Zealand ending the day with a massive lead instead.

No chance at all. Ajaz Patel taking 10 wickets also shows how mediocre the other two NZ spinners were. NZ were lucky to get away in first test as they were on brink of loss but this game, it has been complete anhiliation till now.
 
If in any test match against India(whether in Ind or Nz or neutral venue), in the next 10 years, if Nz would found themselves 332 runs ahead with all 10 wickets remaining on day 2, I would rank them ahead of 1980s Wi and 2000s Aus.

Great point. India have absolutely dominated here. Mayank and Shreyas have shown that even with as many as six players rested and a couple of batters out of form, they alone can win games.
 
If you had the schedule teams like us, Pakistan, WI and SL work with, you'd be sitting middle to bottom of the pack.

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This doesn’t make sense. India regularly beats WI and SL. It would likely beat Pakistan. Playing these 3 teams more shouldn’t affect India’s position in the rankings.
 
Yup. 332 runs+10 wickets in tact is equivalent to double innings defeat. At worst with full strength we would lose with 4/5 wickets or 40/50 runs in Nz.
Its strange that this Aman guy brings the point of short series when certain teams dont perform and conviniently forgets that Ind always play 2 test match series in Nz so by the time we come out of what hit us in 1st test, its already over.
In a proper 4/5 test match series, we can certainly draw if not win provided batters perform half decently and spinner holds one end up with Eco rate around 2.
 
Had India lost the toss, it would be New Zealand ending the day with a massive lead instead.

So India got the lead because they batted first. Then the wicket became bad and NZ was bundled out in 28 overs. When India returned to bat the wicket magically became good again and Indian ended the day at 60/0 after 21 overs 0 :)))
 
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But but but Auckland, Wellington etc. wickets are fairest in the world and Aussie wickets like Sydney and Gabba are flat roads these days.
 
Why didnt India ask New Zealand to follow-on?
 
Why didnt India ask New Zealand to follow-on?

Karthik explains:

https://sports.ndtv.com/india-vs-new-zealand-2021/dinesh-karthik-explains-why-virat-kohli-didnt-impose-follow-on-despite-bowling-new-zealand-out-for-62-2637397#pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories

India bowled New Zealand out for a paltry total of 62 -- the lowest Test total by any side on Indian soil -- in the first innings of the ongoing second Test at the Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai on Saturday. Despite taking a first innings lead of 263 runs, India skipper Virat Kohli did not enforce the follow-on on the Kiwis. The decision surprised several former and current cricketers. In the same light, India wicketkeeper-batter Dinesh Karthik, who is not a part of India's Test setup, explained the reason behind Kohli's decision.

"I get the feeling that you've got to understand that there's obviously a tour of South Africa to follow. If you just this Test match, you won't get extra points if you win in three or four days. I just feel that the more you bat, the worse wicket is going to get. So, it will be easier for them (India) to roll over New Zealand in the second innings," Karthik told Simon Doull during an interaction on Cricbuzz.

"Now they have an opportunity to bat, they are way ahead in the game, and have more than enough runs. But they are just trying to rub it in and make sure that all bases are covered.

"I am sure that they'd love to see (Cheteshwar) Pujara get some runs, Virat Kohli if he gets an opportunity to bat and score some runs. I think that they will declare and that's bound to happen. It's not about giving the bowlers some rest. I just feel that they are in no hurry to declare with three days left in the game," he added.

"If the point system said that you'll get more points if you get them all our or enforce follow-on than it would've made more sense. So, I think the decision is right as they want to give their batters a hit," he further stated.

After bowling out New Zealand on Day 2, Mayank Agarwal and Cheteshwar Pujara took the hosts were 69 for no loss, leading the visitors by 332 runs.
 
Also Wankhede surface usually becomes very tough to bat on at the back end of a test match. It makes perfectly good sense to let the opposition deal with it

That is the main reason i believe india not opt to follow on.. Better be safe than sorry.. And there is plenty of time left.. India should try to bat whole day tomorrow..
 
A half century from Pujara here would mean that he successfully manages to board the flight to South Africa in few weeks time and will play the first two test vs South Africa at no 3 position vs Rabada and Nortje.
 
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