India v Australia | 1st Test - Day 1| Bangalore | 9/10/08

[Amjid Javed]

LOL, you want to screw us too ?

A top specialist batsman is expected to pass 30 atleast 45% over his career. even the best bowling allrounders pass 30 only around 30% of the time. how is he expected to fill in for a specialist?

allrounders are overrated really especially considering the crowded schedules today that renders someone like flintoff immobile for large periods of time.

Dhoni is more than good enough to play as specalist number 6 batsmen and pathan at 7 as an all rounder.Its not that much of a risk!

 

[jusarrived]

am all for 5 specialist bowlers , but having pathan is useless if there is no assistance ....munaf has been surprisingly very impressive lately though ....this being the first test , i dont mind playing safe ...if we loose this one , 5 bowlers must for remaining matches !

 

[Romali_rotti]

Think we have a slight advantage but need to make a fair few more runs to make that advantage work for us. But as usual in any game involving India it comes down to how India bat (and we bowl to them).
Should be a good second day.

Yes advantage Oz at the moment mainly because of that loooonnngggggg batting line uppppp, should in theory post a total of atleast 450...I still got faith we can possibly roll you lot for about 350 odd...

 

[netlurker]

Teams look for the all-rounder because they want the 5th bowler and complete the team, be it Muddassar Nazar or Kallis type or Flintoff type

when did Australia or erstwhile west indies(70-90's) last produce a great or even good bowling allrounder?

served them pretty well didn't it?

you only really need some great bowlers and great batsmen backed by some good players . its simple.

1. four world class bowlers will do the job.
2 quantity does not make up for quality. wherereas an extra batsman may well prove crucial for a big partnership.

 

[netlurker]

Dhoni is more than good enough to play as specalist number 6 batsmen

then i would keep the advantage in depth by playing dhoni at 7. why take the depth away?

i estimate dhoni as "slightly less than specialist batsman" in tests because of his feet and technical weaknesses.

someone like rohit will certainly end up with higher average than dhoni over his career and its they who should play at 6.

 

[12thMan]

when did Australia or erstwhile west indies(70-90's) last produce a great or even good bowling allrounder?

served them pretty well didn't it?

you only really need some great bowlers and great batsmen backed by some good players . its simple.

1. four world class bowlers will do the job.
2 quantity does not make up for quality. wherereas an extra batsman may well prove crucial for a big partnership.

and how many of thoes teams have you seen? Just 2 in some eras. SL can do that too but then they expect Murali to bowl 40 overs also. The windies 4 bowlers were professional strike bowlers. Aussie had four bowlers and Waugh probably chipped in but they regretted it in the Ashes 2005 when McGrath got injured and they were losing. Since then they want Symonds or Watson in team. Four bowlers work well when the pitch is helping you. Can you imagine if one of the two fast bowlers break down, or maybe that is the reason they haven't been used for 20 overs each and by the end of the innings it might be 30 overs each. So the logic of too much cricket doesn't fit well with this scenario and this is what makes too much cricket for them and ofcourse the excessive ODIs.

But who usually complains about too much cricket? My guess will be Asian teams' fast bowlers will be on top and probably because of team selection and pitches they make and not because of number of matches as I am sure they can ask for rest during ODIs or to be rotated as usually the squad have 1-2 extra bowler. Make better pitches Pak, Ind and SL

 

[Random Aussie]

Other thing is that Kumble is not a very imaginative captain, he rarely uses Ganguly and Sehwag.

Plan A is for the spinners to bowl all day and the 2 quicks to bowl short spells.

There is no Plan B.

 

[Random Aussie]

Yes advantage Oz at the moment mainly because of that loooonnngggggg batting line uppppp, should in theory post a total of atleast 450...I still got faith we can possibly roll you lot for about 350 odd...

Yaar anything can happen. Game is still up for grabs.

 

[bones20]

what would be pathetic is that on this same pitch where australia will score over 450+ our mighty batting will struggle to survive with the no give away tactic of australians as I presume. Australia just has to get Sehwag and then play their usual game against India.

 

[Random Aussie]

what would be pathetic is that on this same pitch where australia will score over 450+ our mighty batting will struggle to survive with the no give away tactic of australians as I presume. Australia just has to get Sehwag and then play their usual game against India.

That's the plan

 

[OZGOD]

you forgot to add- thrashing australia when push comes to shove .

Remind me of how many times this thrashing has happened and when the last time you actually won a series against us was? Seven years ago or something wasn't it?

 

[OZGOD]

White is a very good batsmen as is Haddin so Aussies could still build a very sizable 1st inns total.

White's a bit of a cowlasher, an Afridi-type with the bat.

 

[OZGOD]

LOL, you want to screw us too ?

A top specialist batsman is expected to pass 30 atleast 45% over his career. even the best bowling allrounders pass 30 only around 30% of the time. how is he expected to fill in for a specialist?

allrounders are overrated really especially considering the crowded schedules today that renders someone like flintoff immobile for large periods of time.

Pathan would've been ok. Closest thing to a bowling allrounder on either team.

 

[Milroastnescafe]

White's a bit of a cowlasher, an Afridi-type with the bat.

He's actually quite composed and steady. When he comes out to bat i'm sure for the first half hour (if he survives that long) he'll only have a strike rate in the 30s. It's only once he gets to 40/50 he'll start swinging, but even then not recklessly. I take it you've only seen him play in ODI's and 20/20s? Afridi he is not.

 

[Random Aussie]

He's actually quite composed and steady. When he comes out to bat i'm sure for the first half hour (if he survives that long) he'll only have a strike rate in the 30s. It's only once he gets to 40/50 he'll start swinging, but even then not recklessly. I take it you've only seen him play in ODI's and 20/20s? Afridi he is not.

White is a legitimate batsman in the long form of the game.

 

[OZGOD]

I've only seen him bat in ODIs. I'd moved away from OZ when he started to become meaningful with the bat.

 

[Random Aussie]

I've only seen him bat in ODIs. I'd moved away from OZ when he started to become meaningful with the bat.

He is used as a slogger in the ODI team but believe he bats at 4 for Victoria in the Pura Cup.