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India v S Lanka | 2nd Test | Kanpur| 24-28 Nov 09

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LionHeart said:
Plan very well executed by SL... now they have tricked India to enforce the follow-on, all they need is to put 600 runs on the board while the pitch is not so horrible and make India bat on the last day...

Muahahahaha.....
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Indeed , A dastardly plan . India won't know what hit em . Muhahahhaah !
 
LionHeart said:
Plan very well executed by SL... now they have tricked India to enforce the follow-on, all they need is to put 600 runs on the board while the pitch is not so horrible and make India bat on the last day...

Muahahahaha.....
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Let's see whether they can score 300 runs. Srilanka can't win the match or even series from here.. so India moves up in the ICC test rankings!
 
Asok Chaktra said:
sree is improved a lot.. terrific seam position .. good movement.. what a come back.
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Let's just hope that Sree does not cry his head off when Harbhajan slaps him on the back to congratulate him on winning the man of the match award
 
OZGOD said:
Clearly it was a good toss to win?
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But I thought it was a travesty match. Dont lose hope, there is still opportunity to call that....and all hopes on SL to prove it :13:
 
tdigi said:
I waiting for some Random comments.. :akhtar
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Yes what do you want?

As I said about Sri Lanka - they are pretenders and will get flogged.

Good to see Sree get some wickets, he is a real talent.

And yes your pitches still suck.
 
Bublu Bhuyan said:
Incidentally, the kid now averages 29.90 with the ball. Quite rare for an Indian bowler to average below 30, isn't it ?
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Not sure any have in the modern age.
 
Random Aussie said:
Not sure any have in the modern age.
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Apart from Kumble, no one else. In fact I think it's just Bishen Singh Bedi and Anil Kumble among Indian bowlers who averages below 30.
 
OZGOD said:
Clearly it was a good toss to win?
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Yeah, clearly - otherwise how would have a spinner like Sreesanth exploited a crumbling wicket. Surely a spinner is better off bowling now than on the first morning of the test.
 
Harbhajan Singh to DPMD Jayawardene, 1 run, dropped Mahela looks to glide the ball from outside off past slip, Dravid throws himself to his right but can't latch on to it, tough chance that :(
 
in further trouble 54 for 4...............
Harbhajan Singh to Sangakkara, OUT
Sri Lanka trail by 359 runs with 6 wickets remaining
 
Will Indian_Blade be man enuff to participate in this thread or is he gonna do a dissappearing act ? :D
 
Gabbar Singh said:
These pitches are killing test cricket ;)
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Tell me how Sri Lanka were sposed to win after losing the toss?
 
Poison said:
Tell me how Sri Lanka were sposed to win after losing the toss?
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Taking catches and not playing 3 spinners might have made a difference - or maybe not, so good is the Indian team. :)))
 
Romali_rotti said:
Will Indian_Blade be man enuff to participate in this thread or is he gonna do a dissappearing act ? :D
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I am sure he will come up with some statistics.
Lucky that India won the toss, Dhoni might have paid the curator after the 2nd day, you never know what theories will come up now :13:
 
SL just looked really bad today. India on course to win this one. Really disappointed on how SL batted and bowled. Poor stuff. India though have played very well, fast bowling ( utter shock and surprise ), spin and batting. Pitch is still a batsman's paradise.
 
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adit_sh said:
I am sure he will come up with some statistics.
Lucky that India won the toss, Dhoni might have paid the curator after the 2nd day, you never know what theories will come up now :13:
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We gotta keep persisting, it will drive him insane as you will see a flurry of anti- Indian threads/posts.. :)
 
moumotta said:
Not losing wickets might have been a good start.
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To be fair Sreesanth bowled well; but after the pitch started crumbling towards the end of the Indian innings, there was no way Sri Lanka were ever gonna get close.
 
OZGOD said:
Clearly it was a good toss to win?
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Considering that our seam bowlers have done a good deal of damage, I dont think it made that much of a difference. If you check the wickets Sreesanth took, it didnt have to do much with the pitch
 
well are going to give lanka a hiding ...next match at mumbai it usually seams there if sree maintains his form he could be devastating there
 
Random Aussie said:
Errr a green track comes around about once every 3 years in Test cricket these days. But would love to see more of them all over the place.

Stop defending your useless boring pitches that even most Indian fans hate. The toss is everything on Indian pitches and it just spoils the contest, very hard to lose if you bat first with some good batsmen. Is like when you play x and o and get to go first.

Sri Lanka going to get hammered here. Pretenders.
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On the contrary, in the last 2 years we have won the toss and batted 9 times but we won only 2 and lost 1. We lost the toss 5 times, fielded first and won 3 of them and lost none. So what you claim is wrong!!!
 
Indiafan said:
On the contrary, in the last 2 years we have won the toss and batted 9 times but we won only 2 and lost 1. We lost the toss 5 times, fielded first and won 3 of them and lost none. So what you claim is wrong!!!
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Shut up..indian pitches just suck and we only win matches against pretenders.
 
Bublu Bhuyan said:
Apart from Kumble, no one else. In fact I think it's just Bishen Singh Bedi and Anil Kumble among Indian bowlers who averages below 30.
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such a shame isn't it ???

the onus here is always on the batting when it comes to our country
 
tdigi said:
Shut up..indian pitches just suck and we only win matches against pretenders.
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forget all of that..

lets ask RA and his cronies a few questions

1-- how the hell can we make seaming pitches in india where there is dry heat around and grass dies of very fast. such pitches can rarely be made in india and its usually a matter of luck.
eg in mumbai it seems because of the proximity to the sea ... likewise in mohali where the weather is cool in winter

2-- if we keep watering = damp pitch again match over very fast

3-- soil content cant be changed

every region has its pecularities .. we dont expect spinning tracks in SA, NZ etc and you guys shouldnt expect seaming tracks in india.

Aus is a very large country and hence places like sydney , Adelaide take spin.
SL is different to india because it is an island with lots of sea breeze (ideal for swing)

Toss factor

yes it is reasonably important ( i say about 56-57% in favour of team batting first)
But what is more important is how each side bats in its 1st innings
 
sigh RANDOM AUSSIE just shut it. No one should lose a test match this badly, i mean SL has lost 13 wickets in one day. I dont care how much the toss matters but SL only has themselves to blame as they can easily recieve an innings defeat.

Just thinking back Pak should have won that test series against SL, we just need to tighten up our batting.
 
pun500 said:
forget all of that..

lets ask RA and his cronies a few questions

1-- how the hell can we make seaming pitches in india where there is dry heat around and grass dies of very fast. such pitches can rarely be made in india and its usually a matter of luck.
eg in mumbai it seems because of the proximity to the sea ... likewise in mohali where the weather is cool in winter

2-- if we keep watering = damp pitch again match over very fast

3-- soil content cant be changed

every region has its pecularities .. we dont expect spinning tracks in SA, NZ etc and you guys shouldnt expect seaming tracks in india.

Aus is a very large country and hence places like sydney , Adelaide take spin.
SL is different to india because it is an island with lots of sea breeze (ideal for swing)

Toss factor

yes it is reasonably important ( i say about 56-57% in favour of team batting first)
But what is more important is how each side bats in its 1st innings
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You can't lie; its more like 75% in favour of the team batting first.
 
Poison said:
You can't lie; its more like 75% in favour of the team batting first.
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i just showed data which proved we have won more on losing the toss and batting second in the last 2 years
 
SL did overcome the toss factor and reduced India to 30 odd for four in the first test before India fought back. They could have very well repeated that here. And when India visited SL last, the first test was more or less similar to what we have here except for the tables being reversed (SL winning the toss, piling runs and the track started turning to reduce India to shambles).

So the toss factor is a subcontinental thing and all visiting teams know about it. Good teams still bowl well in the first innings to limit the damage. SL started well in the first test and did well then. Couldnt repeat the same now and are struggling. Simple.

You should also give credit to the Indian first wicket pair to have avoided a repeat of the first test by playing out the first hour carefully. India owe their huge score to that excellent base.
 
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adarsh_bang said:
such a shame isn't it ???

the onus here is always on the batting when it comes to our country
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If only we had a bowling attack equally as good as our batting line up, imagine how good we would have been.
 
Cant believe the Sri Lankans could bat so poorly on a really flat wicket. A truly crap team no doubt, Murali is half the bowler he was, Mendis has more or less been discovered.
 
Savak said:
Cant believe the Sri Lankans could bat so poorly on a really flat wicket. A truly crap team no doubt, Murali is half the bowler he was, Mendis has more or less been discovered.
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RA calls the Lankans "pretenders" and you call them a "truly crap team". Any other adjectives? :|
 
Their biggest problem has been their our of form match winner, Murali. He's their ultimate weapon in Test matches, and since he isn't working this time around the results are there for everyone to see.
 
Bublu Bhuyan said:
Their biggest problem has been their our of form match winner, Murali. He's their ultimate weapon in Test matches, and since he isn't working this time around the results are there for everyone to see.
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You cant blame Murali for them being all out for 229 and then 57/4. Fact is that the Sri Lankans are not a very mentally tough team, they only do well when they mostly dominate the game from the word go. If you can get through Jaywardene, SangaKarra, there isnt anyone else to write home about, Dilshan has only recently started to get himself noticed.

Therefore, not enough talent in either the batting or bowling department.
 
I guess two crap teams are fighting for the crappy ICC ranking on crap pitches. Oh well now someone is going to tell me that this is not a crap post...holy crap!
 
Pakistan should really bury their heads in the sand, we could have so easily won the test series in Sri lanka but we folded and collapsed so embarrasingly to such a crap Sri lankan team.

There is no way the Sri Lankans should have won the series 2-0, a serious lanat on our batters and bowlers (for lacking brute firepower when it was really needed).
 
Savak said:
You cant blame Murali for them being all out for 229 and then 57/4. Fact is that the Sri Lankans are not a very mentally tough team, they only do well when they mostly dominate the game from the word go. If you can get through Jaywardene, SangaKarra, there isnt anyone else to write home about, Dilshan has only recently started to get himself noticed.

Therefore, not enough talent in either the batting or bowling department.
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a little know fact even the mighty aussies crack under pressure and very often.
few instances on the top of my head

against india in 2001
crashed in the last innings at eden gardens
poor performance in next test

against india in aus
sydney
adelaide

against england ashes

against saffers in aus
steyn hit 73 and turned the match
couldnt finish duminy and devillers

against india in india 2008

lankans are a team of ftbs barring sanga . their main hope mendis was demolished and murali is going downhill.
 
Savak said:
Pakistan should really bury their heads in the sand, we could have so easily won the test series in Sri lanka but we folded and collapsed so embarrasingly to such a crap Sri lankan team.

There is no way the Sri Lankans should have won the series 2-0, a serious lanat on our batters and bowlers (for lacking brute firepower when it was really needed).
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Every team which plays with india is crap and 3 class or even z string team.
but when any team which plays to pak it become one of the best team. worlds best bowling atack.
 
India batting bunch of flat pitch bully.they only performs when there is no pressure.They are in good position today because of umpires desions.Modi paid them must be.Sri Lsnka much bettere team overall.
 
Badshah05 said:
India batting bunch of flat pitch bully.they only performs when there is no pressure.They are in good position today because of umpires desions.Modi paid them must be.Sri Lsnka much bettere team overall.
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LOL...what a fantastic debut.

Badshah05 said:
Modi paid them must be.
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Are you Yoda?
 
Savak said:
Pakistan should really bury their heads in the sand, we could have so easily won the test series in Sri lanka but we folded and collapsed so embarrasingly to such a crap Sri lankan team.

There is no way the Sri Lankans should have won the series 2-0, a serious lanat on our batters and bowlers (for lacking brute firepower when it was really needed).
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Going a bit off topic here but anyway. Pakistan in very match in the test series, could have won all three of them. Without a doubt. Just some real crap batting helped the Sri Lankans.
 
Da Best said:
Going a bit off topic here but anyway. Pakistan in very match in the test series, could have won all three of them. Without a doubt. Just some real crap batting helped the Sri Lankans.
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isnt that always the case with pak ie collapse
 
Real Good batting and Bowling performance from India and to top it , SL's imitation of the Pak collapses and you got yourself a sw33t victory .


:)) I laugh on you Lanka .
 
tdigi said:
LOL...what a fantastic debut.


Are you Yoda?
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sangkara was not lbw clear desision.tony hill must be paid by modi.In first inn jayawardene given out wrong.these are sri lana best batter.
 
Badshah05 said:
sangkara was not lbw clear desision.tony hill must be paid by modi.In first inn jayawardene given out wrong.these are sri lana best batter.
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Sangakara was out clean bowled in both innings :)))
 
Badshah05 said:
sangkara was not lbw clear desision.tony hill must be paid by modi.In first inn jayawardene given out wrong.these are sri lana best batter.
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:93:

Sanga was bowled in both innings & Jaywardana got out caught trying to clear the incircle .
 
Indiafan said:
On the contrary, in the last 2 years we have won the toss and batted 9 times but we won only 2 and lost 1. We lost the toss 5 times, fielded first and won 3 of them and lost none. So what you claim is wrong!!!
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So has been 8 draws from 14 matches?
 
pun500 said:
forget all of that..

lets ask RA and his cronies a few questions

1-- how the hell can we make seaming pitches in india where there is dry heat around and grass dies of very fast. such pitches can rarely be made in india and its usually a matter of luck.
eg in mumbai it seems because of the proximity to the sea ... likewise in mohali where the weather is cool in winter

2-- if we keep watering = damp pitch again match over very fast

3-- soil content cant be changed

every region has its pecularities .. we dont expect spinning tracks in SA, NZ etc and you guys shouldnt expect seaming tracks in india.

Aus is a very large country and hence places like sydney , Adelaide take spin.
SL is different to india because it is an island with lots of sea breeze (ideal for swing)

Toss factor

yes it is reasonably important ( i say about 56-57% in favour of team batting first)
But what is more important is how each side bats in its 1st innings
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I don't have cronies, I have a posse maan.

I understand what you are saying but my issue with these pitches now is they are barely even spinning tracks. They used to be spinning tracks now all just flat.
 
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All the credit goes to India. They have exploited the conditions very well. First by putting a monster total and then getting rid of the SLankan batsmen in both innings. Who said that Indian pitches can not get result:)
 
Random Aussie said:
I don't have cronies, I have a posse maan.

I understand what you are saying but my issue with these pitches now is they are barely even spinning tracks. They used to be spinning tracks now all just flat.
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It's unfair to say that the current pitch is flat. There is enough for genuine bowlers to get something out of it...don't just expect this from day 1. If there is turn on day 1, then the pitch deteriorates even more and the match will be over in 3 days. This did happen in Kanpur last year (same venue where the current test match is being played) where the ball started spinning in Session 1. BCCI ended up getting a stern warning from the ICC.

Yes everyone agrees that the Ahmedabad pitch was rubbish and even the curator was disappointed and had lapse in judgment, but the pitch in this match has responded well. There was good help for the bowlers (3rd session onwards on 2nd day) and the ball is expected to turn more.

Test cricket is all about counter attacking the elements and wicket conditions. Toss does play an important role and a good team should be prepared to negate this, but the Lankans made some poor decisions and shot selections and are now paying the price against some good Indian bowling.

Having said this, I will definitely agree that pitches in India need to be much better on a consistent basis - there is no doubt about this.
 
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tdigi said:
It's unfair to say that the current pitch is flat. There is enough for genuine bowlers to get something out of it...don't just expect this from day 1. If there is turn on day 1, then the pitch deteriorates even more and the match will be over in 3 days. This did happen in Kanpur last year (same venue where the current test match is being played) where the ball started spinning in Session 1. BCCI ended up getting a stern warning from the ICC.

Yes everyone agrees that the Ahmedabad pitch was rubbish and even the curator was disappointed and had lapse in judgment, but the pitch in this match has responded well. There was good help for the bowlers (3rd session onwards on 2nd day) and the ball is expected to turn more.

Test cricket is all about counter attacking the elements and wicket conditions. Toss does play an important role and a good team should be prepared to negate this, but the Lankans made some poor decisions and shot selections and are now paying the price against some good Indian bowling.

Having said this, I will definitely agree that pitches in India need to be much better on a consistent basis - there is no doubt about this.
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I think SL's shot selection was poor as I was watching the highlights I saw so many insid eges towrds boundary and out of so many 3 got wickets. I was shocked and surprised to see SS was clocking 139 - 141 atleast 2-3 deliveries every over and swinging it.
 
tdigi said:
It's unfair to say that the current pitch is flat. There is enough for genuine bowlers to get something out of it...don't just expect this from day 1. If there is turn on day 1, then the pitch deteriorates even more and the match will be over in 3 days. This did happen in Kanpur last year (same venue where the current test match is being played) where the ball started spinning in Session 1. BCCI ended up getting a stern warning from the ICC.

Yes everyone agrees that the Ahmedabad pitch was rubbish and even the curator was disappointed and had lapse in judgment, but the pitch in this match has responded well. There was good help for the bowlers (3rd session onwards on 2nd day) and the ball is expected to turn more.

Test cricket is all about counter attacking the elements and wicket conditions. Toss does play an important role and a good team should be prepared to negate this, but the Lankans made some poor decisions and shot selections and are now paying the price against some good Indian bowling.

Having said this, I will definitely agree that pitches in India need to be much better on a consistent basis - there is no doubt about this.
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I just don't see why with all the cash BCCI have they can't put a bit into the pitches.

I don't know about you but I find watching cricket on Indian pitches pretty tiresome regardless of who is playing. I much prefer to watch the Indian batsmen on foreign pitches (even when they are going well, shock horror)

And yes agree about the lankans - they have nobody to blame but themselves really.
 
Random Aussie said:
I just don't see why with all the cash BCCI have they can't put a bit into the pitches.

I don't know about you but I find watching cricket on Indian pitches pretty tiresome regardless of who is playing. I much prefer to watch the Indian batsmen on foreign pitches (even when they are going well, shock horror)

And yes agree about the lankans - they have nobody to blame but themselves really.
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Yes thats true doesnt feel like watching except for matches like India-Pak in Chennai -98/Kokatta where the contest was really taking the nerve and the pitches were supporting both fast and spinners.

The most fascinating to watch is a test match in australia purely because of Ambience and the pitches may be weather conditions plays a vital role, but the contest most of the time are one sided and 80% of the time you win which is little boring
 
adit_sh said:
Yes thats true doesnt feel like watching except for matches like India-Pak in Chennai -98/Kokatta where the contest was really taking the nerve and the pitches were supporting both fast and spinners.

The most fascinating to watch is a test match in australia purely because of Ambience and the pitches may be weather conditions plays a vital role, but the contest most of the time are one sided and 80% of the time you win which is little boring
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I prefer to watch us play overseas TBH. At home against a weaker team it gets a bit dull.
 
Murali 29 of 10 balls....
He is having a lot of fun out there. It would be funny if both Samaraweera and Murali get a 100. Oh well that didn't last long...:P
 
Random Aussie said:
I just don't see why with all the cash BCCI have they can't put a bit into the pitches.

I don't know about you but I find watching cricket on Indian pitches pretty tiresome regardless of who is playing. I much prefer to watch the Indian batsmen on foreign pitches (even when they are going well, shock horror)

And yes agree about the lankans - they have nobody to blame but themselves really.
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Some might argue that the BCCI wants to make more money by ensuring that matches last all 5 days and then they get more TV sponsors. This will kill test cricket in the long run. There has been criticism from the Indian commentators too and one hopes that things might improve. BCCI does not do everything right...Modi was thinking of increasing IPL matches from 54 to 94 !!!

As for myself, I do enjoy watching Test cricket overseas...you are right about that.
 
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