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India vs South Africa | 3rd Test | Nagpur | Nov 25-29, 2015 | Match Thread

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Dhawan is a joke of a fielder at any position, Kohli puts him as a close in catcher is just pathetic.
 
Ashwin to Amla, no run, was there an inside edge? The short leg fielder was late on it and the ball bounces in front of Dhawan. Yip, there was a bit of glove on it. Good start after lunch by Ashwin, nice flight and pace

:facepalm: Dhawan
 
If not SA batsmen, our catching/fielding in this test is sure going to cost us dearly.
 
May be Rohit could be given an over or two just to try something different or bring back Ishant for an over.

There is nothing happening for anyone here (except ashwin)
 
Brilliant over of cricket that was, both batsmen (faf) and the bowler (ash) were equally up to the task.
 
Mishra should be given

Jaddu's ineffectiveness is hurting us. No pressure on other end. Both these batsmen are playing for their life against Ashwin and then next over, they breathe easy (relatively).
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Mishra should be given

Jaddu's ineffectiveness is hurting us. No pressure on other end. Both these batsmen are playing for their life against Ashwin and then next over, they breathe easy (relatively).
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TBH, Mishra looked even more innocuous (pressure releaser) this inning. At least Jaddu bowling tight overs (that in turn helps Ash to experiment) without giving any freebies like Mishy did so far.
 
Jadeja is not effective without pitch assisting him significantly. It is only a matter of a wicket or two for India. Amla, Faf and Duminy may have to take it to 275 if they have to win. A 50 run partnership making the fans nervous shows how bowling friendly the match has been so far. When the ball gets old, SA batsmen will find it difficult against all bowlers.
 
IndianWillow said:
Jadeja is not effective without pitch assisting him significantly. It is only a matter of a wicket or two for India. Amla, Faf and Duminy may have to take it to 275 if they have to win. A 50 run partnership making the fans nervous shows how bowling friendly the match has been so far. When the ball gets old, SA batsmen will find it difficult against all bowlers.
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Already SA have played more overs than India in 3rd innings.

Its taking longer for the ball to start spitting from all ends.

Lack of pressure from other end has been annoying.
 
avidlearner said:
He looked like getting a wicket with each of his last 3 overs.
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True, he is bowling really well here. But these two are showing how to bat here, otherwise we were batting like headless chicken with everyone only talking about pitch, pitch and pitch.
 
IndianWillow said:
Jadeja is not effective without pitch assisting him significantly. It is only a matter of a wicket or two for India. Amla, Faf and Duminy may have to take it to 275 if they have to win. A 50 run partnership making the fans nervous shows how bowling friendly the match has been so far. When the ball gets old, SA batsmen will find it difficult against all bowlers.
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Actually, the new ball is better on gripping pitches.
 
This session is very important from SAns perspective...

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I don't mind losing that much if you play well, but playing poor cricket due to scare factor is absurd.
 
Buffet said:
True, he is bowling really well here. But these two are showing how to bat here, otherwise we were batting like headless chicken with everyone only talking about pitch, pitch and pitch.
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Amla's defense seems unbreachable thus far. Even, Faf has improved his play against spin (playing mostly from the crease using backfoot play).
 
avidlearner said:
Amla's defense seems unbreachable thus far. Even, Faf has improved his play against spin (playing mostly from the crease using backfoot play).
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That should be the way for most batsmen here. Pitch is not a sharp tuning one. If you can play late and keep an eye then you have plenty of time to connect.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Already SA have played more overs than India in 3rd innings.

Its taking longer for the ball to start spitting from all ends.

Lack of pressure from other end has been annoying.
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If SA run us close or India lose I will still blame our batsmen only. Lasting just 46 overs to reach 173 was a poor effort. India should have taken a lead of 400.
 
If only ABD was still to come. These two need to score 60-70 more runs and then South Africa need someone to take the attack to the Indians. Even if it's only 30-odd runs. That would put the bowlers under pressure.

A South African victory is virtually impossible but these two have played very well. South Africa would have competed a lot better in this series if Amla wasn't terribly out of form.
 
Buffet said:
That should be the way for most batsmen here. Pitch is not a sharp tuning one. If you can play late and keep an eye then you have plenty of time to connect.
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Sunny in the commb-box said the same. The pitch is very slow and batsmen have got loads of time to see where the ball is spinning to (+ though, there isn't much bounce, it is very consistent)
 
Buffet said:
That should be the way for most batsmen here. Pitch is not a sharp tuning one. If you can play late and keep an eye then you have plenty of time to connect.
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I've seen balls pitch outside leg and then turn to beat the batsman's outside edge. Make no mistake, this pitch is minefield, for all intents and purposes.
 
Bilal7 said:
Nothing special. If you are not looking threatening on this pitch, you're not a very good spin bowler.
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How can you look threatening every session? A bowler is evaluated by his purchase at the end of a match or series and not based on how he bowled a few overs or a spell.
 
IndianWillow said:
How can you look threatening every session? A bowler is evaluated by his purchase at the end of a match or series and not based on how he bowled a few overs or a spell.
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This particular pitch is such that every decent spin bowler will look menacing. All three of India's spinners have beaten the edge and turned the ball miles today.

Just because these two are batting well doesn't mean that the pitch has suddenly gone flat. That is ridiculous.
 
Bilal7 said:
I've seen balls pitch outside leg and then turn to beat the batsman's outside edge. Make no mistake, this pitch is minefield, for all intents and purposes.
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Mainly due to inept batting otherwise it's not as bad as batsmen from both sides have made it look. If you play late then you have plenty of time to play despite turn here and that's due to pitch being slow and mostly even bounce.
 
If only these two batsmen could face Imran Tahir for four or five overs right now. Would get to their fifties and shed a lot of the pressure.

I hope the people who were criticizing Tahir's under-utilization can now appreciate the value of not leaking runs on this pitch.
 
Bilal7 said:
This particular pitch is such that every decent spin bowler will look menacing. All three of India's spinners have beaten the edge and turned the ball miles today.

Just because these two are batting well doesn't mean that the pitch has suddenly gone flat. That is ridiculous.
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Test matches always work that way. It is a seesaw between batsmen and bowlers. The batsmen who are batting are not club level batsmen and these batsmen are now playing their third test in India and if they can't adapt even a little they should not be playing test cricket.
 
Bilal7 said:
If only these two batsmen could face Imran Tahir for four or five overs right now. Would get to their fifties and shed a lot of the pressure.
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Yep, Indians will hate to see some one taking 5 wickets for 30 odd runs in 12 overs.
 
Bilal7 seems to suggest that every good spinner will take a 5/30 every time he gets a spin wicket.
 
Well tell you what South Africa have shown great resilience here and if they keep on going you never know. But I fear one wicket and they'll collapse like a deck of cards.
 
IndianWillow said:
Test matches always work that way. It is a seesaw between batsmen and bowlers. The batsmen who are batting are not club level batsmen and these batsmen are now playing their third test in India and if they can't adapt even a little they should not be playing test cricket.
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Yes, the batsmen have adapted/found form but why does their success have to mean that the pitch is dead or the bowlers have been poor?
 
The pitch seems to have eased off just a tad. Makes for interesting times, no doubt.

Cricinfo.

Earlier they said pitch was slow pre lunch.

Still.......if we screw this up, it would be crazy. Long way to go but these 2 have been :bow:

Dhawan's clumsiness in not diving forward is costing us.
 
IndianWillow said:
Bilal7 seems to suggest that every good spinner will take a 5/30 every time he gets a spin wicket.
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You seem to suggest that the only time batsmen will score runs is if these good spinners bowl poorly or the pitch goes dead.
 
IndianWillow said:
Bilal7 seems to suggest that every good spinner will take a 5/30 every time he gets a spin wicket.
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Some of the Indians batted really poorly and they seemed to be in hurry for no apparent reason. Indian could have easily totally killed the game. Not that we have too much chance here but 400+ would have totally killed it.
 
Bilal7 said:
If only these two batsmen could face Imran Tahir for four or five overs right now. Would get to their fifties and shed a lot of the pressure.

I hope the people who were criticizing Tahir's under-utilization can now appreciate the value of not leaking runs on this pitch.
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It's very tough to pick one bhai when it's bhai vs bhai..
 
Buffet said:
Yep, Indians will hate to see some one taking 5 wickets for 30 odd runs in 12 overs.
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Unfortunately for India, these two are not the kind of batsmen who won't be able to tell an obvious googly from a leg-spinner.
 
Bilal7 said:
Yes, the batsmen have adapted/found form but why does their success have to mean that the pitch is dead or the bowlers have been poor?
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Who said pitch is dead? Or that the bowlers are poor?

Jadeja is never a reliable bowler like Ashwin. He can sometimes outperform Ashwin but if wicket does not assist him very well he is not a threat. The wicket surely has eased a bit compared to the previous days, but once the ball gets old the wicket will have wicked turn. The batsmen have definitely applied themselves better, but they have a lot of unfinished job yet.

This is not a fifth day wicket. Though 310 is very tough even now, it would be downright impossible on a fifth day turning wicket in India against these bowlers.
 
Haven't seen any sledging from the fast bowlers in this series. They should try to get the batsmen off their game, staying within reasonable limits, of course.
 
IndianWillow said:
Who said pitch is dead? Or that the bowlers are poor?

Jadeja is never a reliable bowler like Ashwin. He can sometimes outperform Ashwin but if wicket does not assist him very well he is not a threat. The wicket surely has eased a bit compared to the previous days, but once the ball gets old the wicket will have wicked turn. The batsmen have definitely applied themselves better, but they have a lot of unfinished job yet.

This is not a fifth day wicket. Though 310 is very tough even now, it would be downright impossible on a fifth day turning wicket in India against these bowlers.
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See, you say stuff like this and then I watch the ball beating the edge every other ball. The pitch is as bad as it has been, it is the batsmen that are making it look flat. You are literally saying the same things that you are denying. Jadeja has not been poor, he has been handled better.

This pitch right now is worse than 90% of pitches are on day five.
 
Playing the ball and not the pitch resulted in longest time spent by any team in one inning in this series so far. Only 4 wickets have been taken with one being a tail.

So all this talk about pitch is bad for SA. Just play the ball. Pitch is surely not easy but it's better to not think too much about the pitch and play as well as you could.
 
Ishant bowling well.

We have been tight. SA look solid but have't runa way with the game. Long way to go.

1 wicket yaar. 1 wicket plzzzzzzz
 
I was scared of this from the beginning and this is why I wanted minimum two pacers in the side at all times. SA gave adapted to spin and this has pretty much rendered Mishra and jadeja useless.
 
MISHY BOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

my BOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

WHATTAY WICKET....WHATTAY DELIVERY.....WHAT A KNOCK....
 
A very good delivery.

Well played Amla here. Hopefully, it gives others some confidence to spend time in middle.
 
Lovely ball from Mishra, S.A just blocking and going nowhere and only delaying defeat here, they need to be positive with the bat.
 
Buffet said:
A very good delivery.

Well played Amla here. Hopefully, it gives others some confidence to spend time in middle.
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If we had batted with the same intent in first inning then game would have been different. 70 odd runs in first inning was an extremely poor effort.
 
Amla vs ABD against spin is a no contest.

Becoming a huge fan of Amla the test bat.

Plus he even walked 1st innings before umpire gave him out. At a time when he was in woeful form with his teamm staring defeat.

Legend. :bow:
 
Bilal7 said:
See, you say stuff like this and then I watch the ball beating the edge every other ball. The pitch is as bad as it has been, it is the batsmen that are making it look flat. You are literally saying the same things that you are denying. Jadeja has not been poor, he has been handled better.

This pitch right now is worse than 90% of pitches are on day five.
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The pitch is tough in the sense it is tough to score runs here. But good batsmen can defend their wickets. If you have lost the battle in the mind then there is no point blaming the pitch. This 3rd day wicket is not worse than 90% of day five pitches in India.
 
only on this pitch Ishant can look like the reincarnated soul of McGrath.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Lovely ball from Mishra, S.A just blocking and going nowhere and only delaying defeat here, they need to be positive with the bat.
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Bro...their fight should put Indian batsmen to shame. They had to face Indian spinners unlike Indian batsmen.

They didn't have the offensive game like ABD but they stuck it out.

This was an incredible knock by both considering pitch, bowlers and context.
 
IndianWillow said:
The pitch is tough in the sense it is tough to score runs here. But good batsmen can defend their wickets. If you have lost the battle in the mind then there is no point blaming the pitch. This 3rd day wicket is not worse than 90% of day five pitches in India.
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defending isn't the only thing..you have to score here as well which looks mission impossible on a pitch like this..I think Indian batsmen adopted the right strategy of slogging on these tracks..That's the best way to get your runs on this under prepared pitch.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Bro...their fight should put Indian batsmen to shame. They had to face Indian spinners unlike Indian batsmen.

They didn't have the offensive game like ABD but they stuck it out.

This was an incredible knock by both considering pitch, bowlers and context.
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Very well said. Less said about some of our top batsmen's (Kohli in particular) approach in this series is better.
 
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