India vs South Africa | 4th Test | Delhi | Dec 3-7, 2015 | Match Thread

[Abhilash93]

ABD must be feeling like 90s Sachin.

 

[Passionate Observer]

I want SA to score atleast 250. Else they will moan again about the pitch and we Indian fans have to bear the gibe.
So C'mmon SA..

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Watch out for 100 threads being created on "unsporting" and "unfair" pitches from Pakistani fans.

Guess who's the best Asian test side now?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I want SA to score atleast 250. Else they will moan again about the pitch and we Indian fans have to bear the gibe.
So C'mmon SA..

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I think south africa deliberately trying to get themselves out and prove that this pitch is also poor.

 

[Passionate Observer]

ABD must be feeling like 90s Sachin.

Has been dragging down this pathetic batting line up all on his own for years, without him they have 0 chance of competing any cricketing nation in any form of game.

 

[Passionate Observer]

Should enforce the follow on and get them all out for a meek 100 thereby winning by an innings and sending them back in utter shame with their heads bowed down on their way back to Johannesburg. Shouldn't come back to India again after this pathetic display.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I want SA to score atleast 250. Else they will moan again about the pitch and we Indian fans have to bear the gibe.
So C'mmon SA..

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What the hell is the matter with you??? Having sour grapes cry over an Indian victory is what makes the victory feel good, more sour grapes cry the more I enjoy the victory.. If there were no sour grapes this trashing of SA would not be satisfying.......................

 

[loves_cricket]

Watch out for 100 threads being created on "unsporting" and "unfair" pitches from Pakistani fans.

Guess who's the best Asian test side now?

Give it a rest man!
We are winning with helpful home conditions and that is a fact.
We are not best side in Asia till we win away.

 

[Passionate Observer]

Brilliant catch by Ishant, the end is near.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Drop from kohli. His batting and fielding are both a bit out of form nowadays

 

[Passionate Observer]

Give it a rest man!
We are winning with helpful home conditions and that is a fact.
We are not best side in Asia till we win away.

So is Pakistan, haven't won a single series away except SL, but the kind of thrashing India has dished out to SA put them far far ahead of their arch-rivals.

 

[Amjid Javed]

India should enforce follow and looks like another 3 day test match on its way.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

What if tahir gets a ton now

 

[Passionate Observer]

Kohli is such an incompetent fielder, too much showoff and fake aggression with nothing to back it up.

 

[IndianWillow]

I want SA to score atleast 250. Else they will moan again about the pitch and we Indian fans have to bear the gibe.
So C'mmon SA..

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Who cares? Now hand them a crushing defeat.

 

[Indiafan]

Give it a rest man!
We are winning with helpful home conditions and that is a fact.
We are not best side in Asia till we win away.

And you also give it a rest please. Which side Asian or otherwise have won away except SA? I hate self loathing Indians more than the other kind

 

[Passionate Observer]

What if tahir gets a ton now

You would love that, don't you?

 

[Indiafan]

I want SA to score atleast 250. Else they will moan again about the pitch and we Indian fans have to bear the gibe.
So C'mmon SA..

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South Africa hasn't moaned about the pitches at all

 

[Passionate Observer]

Finish if off, enforce the follow on and extend the misery upon Proteas!

 

[marlonbrowndo]

You would love that, don't you?

Im supporting india mate. Pitch blamers deserve to lose

 

[Passionate Observer]

My wish has been granted, Now get them back on crease and ruffle some feathers in their batting line up!

 

[ethan hunt]

Lol, how can you get out to Indian pacers , they average around 40 ffs .
Southafrica are hopeless .

 

[Zak_Fan]

This is too easy yaar...

 

[Passionate Observer]

im supporting india mate. Pitch blamers deserve to lose

ok

 

[Passionate Observer]

Lol, how can you get out to Indian pacers , they average around 40 ffs .
Southafrica are hopeless .

So will Pakistan be if the series materializes, they'll make Indian pace bowlers look like Anderson and Co.

 

[BaaliSoda]

Had he dropped it? that would have been Rahul's 12th dropped catch in his short test career.

 

[ethan hunt]

Ashwin has amazing control

 

[ethan hunt]

So will Pakistan be if the series materializes, they'll make Indian pace bowlers look like Anderson and Co.

Naa India,s best ever Zaheer was a nobody vs Pakistan , these kids hardly stand a chance .

 

[Zak_Fan]

Had he dropped it? that would have been Rahul's 12th dropped catch in his short test career.

OMG.. didn't know he was so poor!

 

[Indian_Supporter]

What if tahir gets a ton now

Jinxed him

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[RamLakhan]

India are batting 2nd tomorrow

 

[BaaliSoda]

South Africa hasn't moaned about the pitches at all

Current SA cricketers (barring Elgar and Harmer who both publicly criticized the pitches), may be yes. But Sports pundits (mainly the likes of Neil Manthorp et al) and oldies (read it as ex players) across SA media being so vociferous in their criticism of pitches used in this series.

 

[Passionate Observer]

Naa India,s best ever Zaheer was a nobody vs Pakistan , these kids hardly stand a chance .

Couldn't even survive against Topley and Co trundling at 125-130 KPH, you seriously believe they've any chance lasting against Aaron, Umesh and Sharma?

 

[BaaliSoda]

OMG.. didn't know he was so poor!

He has been a clueless catcher in most of the common positions (except close catching as silly mid-on or forward short leg) that i have seen him field.

 

[ethan hunt]

Couldn't even survive against Topley and Co trundling at 125-130 KPH, you seriously believe they've any chance lasting against Aaron, Umesh and Sharma?

AAron averages 50 plus , Umesh and IShanth around 40 , am i missing something , weren't these guys thrashed left right and centre on overseas tours , i am only interested in seeing Pakistani batsmen vs Ashwin.

 

[RamLakhan]

Couldn't even survive against Topley and Co trundling at 125-130 KPH, you seriously believe they've any chance lasting against Aaron, Umesh and Sharma?

I remember Irfan Pathan and Balaji giving them worst nightmare in one of the tours

 

[Passionate Observer]

AAron averages 50 plus , Umesh and IShanth around 40 , am i missing something , weren't these guys thrashed left right and centre on overseas tours , i am only interested in seeing Pakistani batsmen vs Ashwin.

Doesn't matter even if they average 100+, come the series and you'll see Pakistani batsmen will make them look like Marshall, Donald and McGrath.

 

[Indian_Supporter]

Anyone has any idea what is [MENTION=64288]ethan hunt[/MENTION] and [MENTION=139821]Passionate Observer[/MENTION] on about?

Incase you guys didnt realize, this thread has nothing to do with Pakistan. And we will not play any test cricket with Pakistan in fore seeable future. Meaningless discussion.

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[Saffer_XIII]

This is embarrassing. I don't recall a time when we were so meek against any opposition barring the Oz. Vilas has no fight and his keeping is meh. Amla should bat at 3 and relinquish the captaincy. Tahir needs to be discarded in tests if we are barely going to use him.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Couldn't even survive against Topley and Co trundling at 125-130 KPH, you seriously believe they've any chance lasting against Aaron, Umesh and Sharma?

He is right. If India and Pakistan play, it will be a battle of spinners.

Pacers from both sides are quite rubbish in Tests.

 

[Passionate Observer]

I remember Irfan Pathan and Balaji giving them worst nightmare in one of the tours

Pakistani batsmen have a habit of making rookies and trundlers look like world beaters and it isn't something new, hence the argument of averages seems redundant in this case.

 

[SunTzu]

AAron averages 50 plus , Umesh and IShanth around 40 , am i missing something , weren't these guys thrashed left right and centre on overseas tours , i am only interested in seeing Pakistani batsmen vs Ashwin.

I'd love to see Younis and Misbah against Ashwin on a turning track. It will be a good contest.

 

[ethan hunt]

Doesn't matter even if they average 100+, come the series and you'll see Pakistani batsmen will make them look like Marshall, Donald and McGrath.

lol, dont hold your breath .
naa , Imran khan junior vs Indian batsmen would be a better battle he atleast averages below 30 a feat that even Zaheer couldn't manage .

 

[Passionate Observer]

He is right. If India and Pakistan play, it will be a battle of spinners.

Pacers from both sides are quite rubbish in Tests.

I am talking about both ODIs/Tests, Pakistani batsmen can't cope with the pace, if BK can trouble them, anyone can.

 

[ethan hunt]

I'd love to see Younis and Misbah against Ashwin on a turning track. It will be a good contest.

Younis , Misbah and Sarfraz are brilliant vs offspin but Ashwin is a wonderful bowler in Asia , we may never see that contest though .

 

[Passionate Observer]

lol, dont hold your breath .
naa , Imran khan junior vs Indian batsmen would be a better battle he atleast averages below 30 a feat that even Zaheer couldn't manage .

Well thats because he didn't face Rohit Sharma and Co to skyrocket his average.

 

[ethan hunt]

I am talking about both ODIs/Tests, Pakistani batsmen can't cope with the pace, if BK can trouble them, anyone can.

Would this be the series where Junaid decimated the Indian lineup ?? i wouldn't read too much into it , sad to see both BK and junaid go downhill but even those two don't average 50 plus or do they ??

 

[Zak_Fan]

I am talking about both ODIs/Tests, Pakistani batsmen can't cope with the pace, if BK can trouble them, anyone can.

I see. In ODIs, Indian pacers would trouble them without a doubt. Shami is one of the best in the world while Umesh and Bhuvneshwar give him a real good support.

 

[Passionate Observer]

Younis , Misbah and Sarfraz are brilliant vs offspin but Ashwin is a wonderful bowler in Asia , we may never see that contest though .

Its a no contest, out of all three you mentioned, only Misbah has the technique to survive against Ashwin, the rest will fall down a house of cards.

 

[Passionate Observer]

I see. In ODIs, Indian pacers would trouble them without a doubt. Shami is one of the best in the world while Umesh and Bhuvneshwar give him a real good support.

How could I forget Shami he's the best pacer out of both teams, his in swing with the new ball is impeccable, can't see Shehzad/Hafeez or anyone for that matter lasting against him in PowerPlay.

 

[ethan hunt]

Its a no contest, out of all three you mentioned, only Misbah has the technique to survive against Ashwin, the rest will fall down a house of cards.

What is Younis's test average vs India ??
He seemed to treat Kumble and Harbhajjan with disdain , i don't see why he can't do well since he is the best player or spin in the world at present.

 

[Junaids]

ABD must be feeling like 90s Sachin.

Even worse!

Nineties Sachin started off with Azharuddin, Sidhu and Manjrekar and ended up with Dravid, Ganguly and Laxman.

But South Africa are not just weak, they are selected according to racial quotas. So with Philander unfit, Bavuma replaces Van Zyl and Piedt replaces Harmer to keep the non-white quota up to the minimum level.

Congratulations to India for playing so well and punishing this Reverse Apartheid. Imagine if India had to pick 3 Muslims, 1 Sikh and 1 Bengali in every side.

 

[Statsman]

Even worse!

Nineties Sachin started off with Azharuddin, Sidhu and Manjrekar and ended up with Dravid, Ganguly and Laxman.

But South Africa are not just weak, they are selected according to racial quotas. So with Philander unfit, Bavuma replaces Van Zyl and Piedt replaces Harmer to keep the non-white quota up to the minimum level.

Congratulations to India for playing so well and punishing this Reverse Apartheid. Imagine if India had to pick 3 Muslims, 1 Sikh and 1 Bengali in every side.

Piedt took 4 wickets and Bavuma scored the second highest number of runs after ABD.

 

[Passionate Observer]

What is Younis's test average vs India ??
He seemed to treat Kumble and Harbhajjan with disdain , i don't see why he can't do well since he is the best player or spin in the world at present.

YK was a much better player back then, he doesn't have that flair anymore. He owes most part of his Test career to UAE where he feasted on mediocre spinners since 2009. The moment he steps out of his comfort zone and face the REAL deal in form of Ashwin or Jadeja on REAL surfaces is when we're gonna see the REAL YK behind his charade, UAE is providing a cushion to his international career. We all know he's pathetic against pace in anyway shape or form but this whole myth of him being the best player of spin will burst the moment he faces quality.

 

[Junaids]

Piedt took 4 wickets and Bavuma scored the second highest number of runs after ABD.

Yes, you're right. But Piedt took 4-117 while Kyle Abbott took 5-40.

The same Kyle Abbott who is never preferred to even a semi-fit Philander because he is the wrong colour, even in a World Cup semi-final. Philander used to have some zip and be a much better bowler than Abbott, but nowadays Abbott is a far, far better bowler.

But he is white, so Philander is always chosen ahead of him.

I used to march in London to oppose racist nonsense in South Africa. I didn't march to replace pro-white racism with anti-white racism.

 

[Statsman]

Yes, you're right. But Piedt took 4-117 while Kyle Abbott took 5-40.

The same Kyle Abbott who is never preferred to even a semi-fit Philander because he is the wrong colour, even in a World Cup semi-final. Philander used to have some zip and be a much better bowler than Abbott, but nowadays Abbott is a far, far better bowler.

But he is white, so Philander is always chosen ahead of him.

I used to march in London to oppose racist nonsense in South Africa. I didn't march to replace pro-white racism with anti-white racism.

Not sure. Philander has been a very good bowler. He averages 22 for a reason and even in the sole test he played here on a "spinning wicket" he averaged 20 per wicket and had become a headache for Shikhar Dhawan. Thing is Philander has done too much not to be considered in the first XI.

In fact he also averages 24 in ODIs while Abbott averages nearly 37. Even if Phil has lost his zip for now, any team will give a player like him a longer rope to turn it around as against Abott who's had just 1 great test match before this.

 

[Junaids]

Not sure. Philander has been a very good bowler. He averages 22 for a reason and even in the sole test he played here on a "spinning wicket" he averaged 20 per wicket and had become a headache for Shikhar Dhawan. Thing is Philander has done too much not to be considered in the first XI.

In fact he also averages 24 in ODIs while Abbott averages nearly 37. Even if Phil has lost his zip for now, any team will give a player like him a longer rope to turn it around as against Abott who's had just 1 great test match before this.

Philander's record was almost entirely earned outside Asia. He used to be superb on bouncy, green home tracks, but he struggled at times even in England and Australia when the wickets were flat.

But he was effective at around 132-135K. He has now lost 5-7K and we are left with a bowler who bowls good lines but is not quick enough or tall enough to pose much of a threat except on very grassy tracks.

 

[#GreenRoars]

What is Younis's test average vs India ??
He seemed to treat Kumble and Harbhajjan with disdain , i don't see why he can't do well since he is the best player or spin in the world at present.

Bro you are wasting your time with em.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Watch out for 100 threads being created on "unsporting" and "unfair" pitches from Pakistani fans.

Guess who's the best Asian test side now?

Says a person who himself whine about UAE ptiches

 

[#GreenRoars]

Excellent performance by team India, that's how all Asian teams should treat Aus,SA,Eng,NZ.
Hoping 3-0

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yadav was bowling quick today.Nice to see that.Hit 150ks.

 

[Passionate Observer]

Yadav was bowling quick today.Nice to see that.Hit 150ks.

Don't tell that to Pakistani fans

 

[BigBoy123]

Don't tell that to Pakistani fans

yadav , aaron , dinda , bhuvi (spinner or seamer dont know) are the greatest fast bowler of the world ...happy now?
and rohit sharma , rayudu , saha , binny are the greatest batting talents in the world ..
and Ashwin, bhajjan, axar are greatest spinners.

#enoughsaid

 

[Passionate Observer]

yadav , aaron , dinda , bhuvi (spinner or seamer dont know) are the greatest fast bowler of the world ...happy now?
and rohit sharma , rayudu , saha , binny are the greatest batting talents in the world ..
and chuckwin , chuckbhajjan , chuckxar patel are the greatest spinners in the world

#enoughsaid

You would've said all that without being so condescending!

 

[Passionate Observer]

How dare an Indian Trundler bowl at 150kph, its unacceptable. 2

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

:X

It's ok. You can be wrong too.

 

[Passionate Observer]

:X

Yeah how does it feel?

 

[MRSN]

You won't need DRS if you had competent umpires.

but we don't have and everyone knows it. BCCI knows it..that's why they don't use DRS so they can get away pressurizing umpires with the help of home crowds in making dumb decisions.

 

[MRSN]

How dare an Indian Trundler bowl at 150kph, its unacceptable. 2

speed isn't going to help if you have a mediocre skills. Reason why he averages 39.

 

[Passionate Observer]

speed isn't going to help if you have a mediocre skills. Reason why he averages 39.

Please dont!

I'm in the middle of watching my favorite show, don't want to distract myself.

 

[MRSN]

Most of the times, they have ended up getting advantaged. So saying that they suffer is very selective of you.

well you aren't getting this. Even if 11 Indian players given unfairly out by the umpires doesn't match one opposition's batsman getting out via dumb decision of the umpire because Indians BELIEVE umpires ARE BETTER judge than some computer so they deserve every bit of dumb umpiring because they have alternatives they just don't want to use it.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Crybabies are not happy today.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Please dont!

I'm in the middle of watching my favorite show, don't want to distract myself.

Then don't post.

 

[MRSN]

Please dont!

I'm in the middle of watching my favorite show, don't want to distract myself.

I don't think truth should distract you from watching your tom and jerry.

 

[MRSN]

Crybabies are not happy today.

Not using DRS so umpires give dumb decisions when You need them most.
Making roland garros where dust go off before 10th over is bowled.

I'm sure you are enjoying this series.

 

[Passionate Observer]

Crybabies are not happy today.

LOL they aren't even making an effort to conceal their jealousy and hatred, its just so obvious.

 

[Passionate Observer]

I don't think truth should distract you from watching your tom and jerry.

LOL, you're a funny guy, I'll give you that but so delusional at the same time.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Not using DRS so umpires give dumb decisions when You need them most.
Making roland garros where dust go off before 10th over is bowled.

I'm sure you are enjoying this series.

I am. What I am enjoying even more is reading the upset chand-tara green brigade.

 

[MRSN]

LOL, you're a funny guy, I'll give you that but so delusional at the same time.

I'm just calling a spade a spade. If there was DRS Indian batting would have folded under 250. Feel for the opposition.

 

[Passionate Observer]

I'm just calling a spade a spade. If there was DRS Indian batting would have folded under 250. Feel for the opposition.

Oh Lord! excuses upon excuses, clutching at straws aren't you? First it was the unsporting pitch and now DRS, and what would've happened if India did get bundled out under 250? Would it change the complexion of the match after clueless SA batting? Stop this nonsense, all you need is burnol!

 

[MMHS]

It's ok. You can be wrong too.

Technically it's not wrong actually - I reffered to historical data which actually supports my post. In 25 years I think I can instantly recall 7 matches
IND-WI 89
IND-ZIM 94
IND - AUS 96
IND-PAK 99
IND-ZIM 00
IND-PAK 09
IND-WI 11

Apart from the IND-PAK 99 (which was played on a shocker after the hooligans dug the wicket), all other matches were won by chasing side, after losing the toss.

I am more upset with the spineless capitulation of SAF side, for whom, I expected, at least in a dead rubber some fight back.