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Speaking at a tri-services press briefing on Thursday, IAF Air Vice Marshal RGK Kapoor confirmed that an air force MiG-21 Bison shot down a Pakistan Air Force F-16 on Wednesday, 27 February in a dogfight.

The IAF also showed the remnants of a US-made AMRAAM missile found on the Indian side of the border in Kashmir which was said to have been fired by a Pakistani F-16 during an attack on Indian military bases. Pakistan had earlier denied that it had used F-16 aircraft on Wednesday, and maintained that no Pakistani Air Force aircraft had been hit.

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201902281072837631-pakistan-jet-india/
 
Speaking at a tri-services press briefing on Thursday, IAF Air Vice Marshal RGK Kapoor confirmed that an air force MiG-21 Bison shot down a Pakistan Air Force F-16 on Wednesday, 27 February in a dogfight.

The IAF also showed the remnants of a US-made AMRAAM missile found on the Indian side of the border in Kashmir which was said to have been fired by a Pakistani F-16 during an attack on Indian military bases. Pakistan had earlier denied that it had used F-16 aircraft on Wednesday, and maintained that no Pakistani Air Force aircraft had been hit.

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201902281072837631-pakistan-jet-india/

Ok so now we have 'conclusive'' evidence.

A missile that was fired by the said aircraft, but the aircraft that fired it is..... no where to be found.

Which 'conclusively' proves that a Pakistan F16 fighter was shotdown.
[MENTION=139108]Sachin136[/MENTION] you should also read these articles when posting.
 
All that article shows is that Pak indeed used F-16 plane. I did not see any proof that Indian MIG-21 shotdown F-16. Did I miss something?
 
Just came back from some work and I am now hearing new stuff reg this.

I have to go check up.

Post all the tweets, pics, data in here guys.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Parts of AMRAAM missile fired by PAK F16 jet shown by IAF. Batteries and other parts also shown. Conclusively shows f16 used, nailing PAK lies says IAF <a href="https://twitter.com/EconomicTimes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EconomicTimes</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ETDefence?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ETDefence</a> <a href="https://t.co/CZrNuH3FYH">pic.twitter.com/CZrNuH3FYH</a></p>— Shaurya K Gurung (@GurungShauryaET) <a href="https://twitter.com/GurungShauryaET/status/1101120457342881792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Visuals of cover of AARAM missile fired from Pakistani F-16 aircraft found near the LoC in India <a href="https://t.co/qHdOm5cDqN">pic.twitter.com/qHdOm5cDqN</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1101118888375451650?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Is the plane vanished? Thick skulls will believe it though..India Mahaan hay.
 
It is a propaganda war that India is orchestrating and trying to win for the bhakhts.

Nothing to see here.
 
The engine seriel number shows the plane belongs to Taiwan another lie by India ,what a lie!
 
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The engine seriel number shows the plane belongs to Taiwan another lie by India ,what a lying piece of **** nation

I am a total noob in this bhai.

One question though...

Why are Pak military people around the crashed pic then?
 
I am a total noob in this bhai.

One question though...

Why are Pak military people around the crashed pic then?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For information of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> ;<br><br>The remains of AIM-120C5 AMRAAM Serial Number: FA8675-05-C-0070 was sold to Taiwan Air Force, not <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndianMedia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndianMedia</a> <a href="https://t.co/DJqp3bMbpA">pic.twitter.com/DJqp3bMbpA</a></p>— PKKH | PakistanKaKhudaHafiz (@PKKHTweet) <a href="https://twitter.com/PKKHTweet/status/1101127648565186560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I am a total noob in this bhai.

One question though...

Why are Pak military people around the crashed pic then?
The pic could be doctored for all I care you have millions of unemployed IT pros who could do this without any issue . I believe nothing coming from your lying country.
 
This should be another perfect example but i feel like most bhakths and naive (not their fault, most of us do not know) would believe anything.

Pakistan immediately provided evidence of plane being down, pilot captured, even Indian provided immediate evidence of plane being down in India.

But, yet, India can't provide single piece of evidence of any of their claim.

Come on people.
 
The pic could be doctored for all I care you have millions of unemployed IT pros who could do this without any issue . I believe nothing coming from your lying country.

That is the sorry part of it, their media have lied so much that no one will trust them.
 
That is the sorry part of it, their media have lied so much that no one will trust them.

No one cares about what the media or twitter says. What matters is

"Speaking at a tri-services press briefing on Thursday, IAF Air Vice Marshal RGK Kapoor confirmed that an air force MiG-21 Bison shot down a Pakistan Air Force F-16 on Wednesday, 27 February in a dogfight."
 
No one cares about what the media or twitter says. What matters is

"Speaking at a tri-services press briefing on Thursday, IAF Air Vice Marshal RGK Kapoor confirmed that an air force MiG-21 Bison shot down a Pakistan Air Force F-16 on Wednesday, 27 February in a dogfight."

They said that Pakistan will be broking into pieces too.

Only a fool bhakths would stay blind even after providing evidence.

pity you
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For information of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> ;<br><br>The remains of AIM-120C5 AMRAAM Serial Number: FA8675-05-C-0070 was sold to Taiwan Air Force, not <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndianMedia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndianMedia</a> <a href="https://t.co/DJqp3bMbpA">pic.twitter.com/DJqp3bMbpA</a></p>— PKKH | PakistanKaKhudaHafiz (@PKKHTweet) <a href="https://twitter.com/PKKHTweet/status/1101127648565186560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Ok maybe. How come India got hold of its remains?

Ok Pak army was there and so was Indians who got to snap pics but no Pakistani journalist was allowed to take pic on our own side of loc makes perfect sense.

Is it proven that Indians took this pic with all Pak military in there?
 
The pic could be doctored for all I care you have millions of unemployed IT pros who could do this without any issue . I believe nothing coming from your lying country.

Ok then. I will wait.

Not jumping to conclusions. I am not knowledgeable enough in this reg to interpret data.
 
Indian Military is is instructed to construct lies. It is pretty obvious but to thick mob.
 
Btw JF 17 also has the capability to use the same missles how does this proof anything.
 
This doesn't make sense, why would you use an AMRAAM missile on ground targets, when its used to shot down other fighter jets???

So in other words, IAF have evidence of PAF shooting down their aircrafts...

Errr... we already know that, thanks!
 
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This doesn't make sense, why would you use an AMRAAM missile on ground targets, when its used to shot down other fighter jets???

So in other words, IAF have evidence of PAF shooting down their aircrafts...

Errr... we already know that, thanks!

Checkmate... and this is wreckage they found on their side, meaning this confirms Pak's story of a second jet that we shot down and fell on India's side of the border. Game. Set. Match. Championship.
 
1 thing which is a bit worrying is that Modi hasn't even said anything yet.
Looks like he's planning something
 
And they took a day to come up with this story. :babar A kid has better imagination.

No, this was in the news for a while (just like how Pakistan had supposedly taken down 2 Indian jets, and captured 2 pilots), but the official statement came recently.
 
1 thing which is a bit worrying is that Modi hasn't even said anything yet.
Looks like he's planning something

He won't.

He has no international support for any further illegal aggression against Pakistan.

Now he is only playing for the optics for the bhakths of the India.

Another illegal aggression then all of the India will hear diplomatic music from the rest of the world.

Modi Effed up royally.
 
Exactly.
Just for propaganda

Checkmate... and this is wreckage they found on their side, meaning this confirms Pak's story of a second jet that we shot down and fell on India's side of the border. Game. Set. Match. Championship.

This doesn't make sense, why would you use an AMRAAM missile on ground targets, when its used to shot down other fighter jets???

So in other words, IAF have evidence of PAF shooting down their aircrafts...

Errr... we already know that, thanks!

Btw JF 17 also has the capability to use the same missles how does this proof anything.

Ok then. I will wait.

Not jumping to conclusions. I am not knowledgeable enough in this reg to interpret data.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Apparently Indian experts cannot agree on whether the evidence of F-16 given by Indian Army is accurate or not. Odd. Video below. <a href="https://t.co/BRIyPnFWCj">https://t.co/BRIyPnFWCj</a></p>— F. Jeffery &#55357;&#56385; (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1101152798035636224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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AMRAAM can also be used in JF 17 thunder.



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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Apparently Indian experts cannot agree on whether the evidence of F-16 given by Indian Army is accurate or not. Odd. Video below. <a href="https://t.co/BRIyPnFWCj">https://t.co/BRIyPnFWCj</a></p>— F. Jeffery �� (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1101152798035636224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Read the replies to that tweet.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For information of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> ;<br><br>The remains of AIM-120C5 AMRAAM Serial Number: FA8675-05-C-0070 was sold to Taiwan Air Force, not <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndianMedia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndianMedia</a> <a href="https://t.co/DJqp3bMbpA">pic.twitter.com/DJqp3bMbpA</a></p>— PKKH | PakistanKaKhudaHafiz (@PKKHTweet) <a href="https://twitter.com/PKKHTweet/status/1101127648565186560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bhai <a href="https://twitter.com/DefencedotPak?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DefencedotPak</a>,<br>Tumse na ho payega &#55358;&#56611;<br><br>Pakistanis again trying to hide the truth <a href="https://t.co/X11rSrLruS">pic.twitter.com/X11rSrLruS</a></p>— Err... (@Gujju_Er) <a href="https://twitter.com/Gujju_Er/status/1101145073394298880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bhai <a href="https://twitter.com/DefencedotPak?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DefencedotPak</a>,<br>Tumse na ho payega ��<br><br>Pakistanis again trying to hide the truth <a href="https://t.co/X11rSrLruS">pic.twitter.com/X11rSrLruS</a></p>— Err... (@Gujju_Er) <a href="https://twitter.com/Gujju_Er/status/1101145073394298880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Do you realize what an AMRAM is?


It is an anti-air missile. Meaning fired from a fighter jet to hit another fighter jet. If India found its "wreckage" meaning it hit its intended target. Now India themselves have attributed this missile to Pakistan, thereby confirming Pakistan's story of downing Indian jets. Brilliant own goal by India.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bhai <a href="https://twitter.com/DefencedotPak?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DefencedotPak</a>,<br>Tumse na ho payega ��<br><br>Pakistanis again trying to hide the truth <a href="https://t.co/X11rSrLruS">pic.twitter.com/X11rSrLruS</a></p>— Err... (@Gujju_Er) <a href="https://twitter.com/Gujju_Er/status/1101145073394298880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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If Pakistan purchased these missiles from Taiwan wouldn't it make sense that they purchased it for JF-17 as it is capable of carrying it as well?

Anyway way too soon to reach any conclusions right now.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bhai <a href="https://twitter.com/DefencedotPak?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DefencedotPak</a>,<br>Tumse na ho payega ��<br><br>Pakistanis again trying to hide the truth <a href="https://t.co/X11rSrLruS">pic.twitter.com/X11rSrLruS</a></p>— Err... (@Gujju_Er) <a href="https://twitter.com/Gujju_Er/status/1101145073394298880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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As i have shared snapshot, AMRAAM can also be used in JF17 thunder. Not necessarily in F-16.
 
Do you realize what an AMRAM is?


It is an anti-air missile. Meaning fired from a fighter jet to hit another fighter jet. If India found its "wreckage" meaning it hit its intended target. Now India themselves have attributed this missile to Pakistan, thereby confirming Pakistan's story of downing Indian jets. Brilliant own goal by India.

I am in search of truth so don't mind any outcome.

1. Ok so what if missile misses the target? Can't it be found anyway?

2. What about the pic above with F16 serial number and Pak people around it? What's that?

3. Pak officially claimed 2-3 pilots found but then changed it to 1. Why so may I ask? IAF never backtracked.

4. Yesterday in Hindu (not your typical crazy news site), I read about defense officials mention about f16 in anonymity. They never named the flight in prev press conference. If they had to lie, they could hav in the prev press conference no? Right now they have openly claimed the F16 part.

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Just wondering.
 
No one cares about what the media or twitter says. What matters is

"Speaking at a tri-services press briefing on Thursday, IAF Air Vice Marshal RGK Kapoor confirmed that an air force MiG-21 Bison shot down a Pakistan Air Force F-16 on Wednesday, 27 February in a dogfight."
You Indians really are some piece of work. Just because your jokers keep lying in the media, we should believe them? :))) :)))

Take these articles filled with lies with a grain of salt.
 
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Desperate propaganda to feed a war mongering India..'300 JeM Terrorists Killed', 'PAK Plane Shot down'.
If it makes gullible Modi-ites feel better after the 'slaps' they have already received from Pakistan, then leave them to it, they'll eventually self-destruct in their own lies.
How many like me are actually beginning to feel sorry for this pathetic drama-ridden nation?
 
Apparently have heard the Lockheed Martin has expressed displeasure at the fake news coming from India on shooting down an F-16
 
There's a sea of fake news here and it's a challenge to try and navigate it.

At the very least the claim that the AMRAAM missile was sold to Taiwan seems to have some sort of legitimacy. The link here, shared before as well, to the US Secretary of Defense. The serial number is on page 30.

https://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/cpic/cp/docs/USA002235-10_Complete Foreign Military Sales.pdf


What makes it suspicious is that Taiwan is spelled Tiawan. But the document here is a scan so there might just have been a mistake in one of the drafts which got preserved. But this remains the most trustworthy piece of information so far!
 
A random Redditor who has worked on F16s disapproving Indian claims.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For information of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> ;<br><br>The remains of AIM-120C5 AMRAAM Serial Number: FA8675-05-C-0070 was sold to Taiwan Air Force, not <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndianMedia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndianMedia</a> <a href="https://t.co/DJqp3bMbpA">pic.twitter.com/DJqp3bMbpA</a></p>— PKKH | PakistanKaKhudaHafiz (@PKKHTweet) <a href="https://twitter.com/PKKHTweet/status/1101127648565186560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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https://www.militaryindustrialcompl...zNoK4pXVQALeCubpOF881zBACWbMGYuJHf4v2nReujaUE


The Amraam was for PAF.
[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]
 
We haven't lost an F-16.

Already asked the closest person who can be to the Air Force of Pakistan and he has told me its not possible as they weren't flying.
 
We haven't lost an F-16.

Already asked the closest person who can be to the Air Force of Pakistan and he has told me its not possible as they weren't flying.

For Indians what their media showing are gospel words.
 
i am asking a simple question, can chinese or any other origion missile system integrated with french jets ? [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]
 
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That particular missile was sold to Taiwan, that's a solid piece of info from the US SoD website.

I am not a credible source of information on this but I think that the JF-17 can fire the AMRAAM, one of the sellng points of the JF-17 was that it can do much the same stuff as the F-16 just not as well. It was supposed to be a poor man's F-16 basically, capable of firing the same ammunition. The similarity of the name JF-17 and F-16 was due to this reason.

This is from my memory and discussions that I have had, not credible.
 
Amidst all the misinformation going around, I'd like to wait to hear the Wg Co's version after his release...
 
Pakistani MP confirms presence of terror camps in Paksitan and addresses terrorist Masood Azhar as "Saab"

 
I do not understand how a bhadkila comes to Pakpassion and start triggering people. This person is a copy-paste faarigh and nothing else. Stop taking bait people.
 
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