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Indian-Occupied Kashmir: Civilians severely wounded, blinded in pellet gun attacks

Urmm where is the independent press to verify this and who is stopping them from reporting acts against the army?

You really have to be a scumbag of a human being to defend these atrocities.

You must be little slow , if none of independent press is being allowed how are they reporting whatever they have done so far . Are you a ***** , what are police/army supposed to do when they are being pelted with stones.
 
You must be little slow , if none of independent press is being allowed how are they reporting whatever they have done so far . Are you a ***** , what are police/army supposed to do when they are being pelted with stones.

Sorry I don’t debate with scumbags.
 
If it lets you sleep at night then believe what you want. If there is god then you will have to answer to him for your sick mindset. If not then you don't have anything to worry about.

No one said throwing stones at army or anyone is justified. The reports here are about kids being blinded/maimed when going to tuitions, venturing just outside their homes. They don't even say they are part of any mob. Of course it's easier to believe they are part of mob and hence are just collateral damage for the greater good. It keeps your conscience clear.

The voices of those Indians with a moral compass have been silenced.

On social media, I am not sure if it is BJP government sponsored fake accounts / bots, but I have never seen this level of disgusting posts in my life.

When stuff like Asia Bibi happened in Pakistan, there were those that had extremist views and wanted her executed. There were also those that were against her execution and wanted her release. The extremists were louder in voice, but the rational ones were greater in number and made their numbers count.

And Pakistan is labelled as an extremist nation.

India is supposed to be moderate, democratic, secular, and inclusive, at least that is what we heard for the last 30 years. For a while, I bought in to this idea, and thought yes Pakistan should try to be more like India in terms of inclusiveness of minorities and rule of law.

But turns out it was a facade. Video evidence of mob lynchings and people get declared innocent in courts. Literal terrorists and supporters of terrorists are in BJP government. Open talks of ethnic cleansing by politicians.

Makes me believe Pakistan shouldn't be more like India, they are not a benchmark by any means. In fact they look like they are going in the opposite direction.

I just don't understand it.
 
I sleep fine, my conscience is clear.Do you think Army has no better business other than injuring a five year old or teenager going to tuition.Army people are also humans, they are not doing anything out of spite.They are sacrificing their lives to protect the nation.

Stop lecturing others on humanity .

You are absolutely right, the parents of the 5 year old/15 yo took their kids deliberately to areas where protests and stone throwing was happening so that they get their kids blinded to portray India in a bad light.

This is the logical explanation.

One could have understood if you were debunking these reports, I still don't want to believe these reports myself and am hoping this is just propaganda news spread by our neighbours. You on the other hand are arguing that this has happened but it's fault of the 5 year old..

Shameful creature, not even a human you are a creature :)
 
The voices of those Indians with a moral compass have been silenced.

On social media, I am not sure if it is BJP government sponsored fake accounts / bots, but I have never seen this level of disgusting posts in my life.

When stuff like Asia Bibi happened in Pakistan, there were those that had extremist views and wanted her executed. There were also those that were against her execution and wanted her release. The extremists were louder in voice, but the rational ones were greater in number and made their numbers count.

And Pakistan is labelled as an extremist nation.

India is supposed to be moderate, democratic, secular, and inclusive, at least that is what we heard for the last 30 years. For a while, I bought in to this idea, and thought yes Pakistan should try to be more like India in terms of inclusiveness of minorities and rule of law.

But turns out it was a facade. Video evidence of mob lynchings and people get declared innocent in courts. Literal terrorists and supporters of terrorists are in BJP government. Open talks of ethnic cleansing by politicians.

Makes me believe Pakistan shouldn't be more like India, they are not a benchmark by any means. In fact they look like they are going in the opposite direction.

I just don't understand it.

I think one should have an open mind and think about if this happened to your own kids how would you feel? Therein lies the answer of how one should react.

No one should justify any 5 yo getting maimed or blinded by anyone. Whatever the circumstances are you just cannot justify it. I support our army whole heartedly for securing us and letting us sleep in peace at night. However, any kid/innocent being blinded is inexcusable and needs to be investigated and stopped immediately. One can also blame separatists, politicians from both sides over the years who have let this turmoil grow.

Regarding mob lynching, it's basically politics. In previous governments Muslim criminals used to carry out crimes against Hindus especially in states like UP, Bihar. Previous governments gave them a free rein. So that has built up years of animosity. Now even educated ones who were at the receiving end of the fear, feel it's alright with current status quo since all Muslims are same. They don't come out openly and say it, but they say it on social media or turn a blind eye when such cases happen.

Also recent cases like the Muslim family killing a Delhi engineer for dating their daughter doesn't help the cause. Two wrongs never make a right but such cases is used to spread further animosity against the entire community.

The case you are referring to will go to higher court and hopefully justice will be served there.

Regarding ethnic cleansing, don't worry that won't happen. Migrant workers from other state might settle down but that doesn't mean any systematic cleansing will happen. That is a propaganda spread by the other side. Both sides play propaganda wars to spread fear and turn people to their side.

And Pakistan or any country for that matter should follow countries like Iceland, Finland, Norway etc model where the citizens get all the rights. That should be how a country should strive to be.
 
You are absolutely right, the parents of the 5 year old/15 yo took their kids deliberately to areas where protests and stone throwing was happening so that they get their kids blinded to portray India in a bad light.

This is the logical explanation.

One could have understood if you were debunking these reports, I still don't want to believe these reports myself and am hoping this is just propaganda news spread by our neighbours. You on the other hand are arguing that this has happened but it's fault of the 5 year old..

Shameful creature, not even a human you are a creature :)

Are you an idiot, or have trouble comprehending english.I said it is responsibility of the parents to see their five year old does not get hurt.It is unfortunate that they got hurt.

I don't have to debunk any theories unlike you sitting in some cozy place, I have family and friends fighting for the country in Kashmir putting their lives at stakes.They don't go around trying to injure innocent kids and citizens.

You are first order m0ron stop giving lectures to others and do something for a change.
 
Are you an idiot, or have trouble comprehending english.I said it is responsibility of the parents to see their five year old does not get hurt.It is unfortunate that they got hurt.

Waiting for your reply to this:

https://caravanmagazine.in/conflict...ution-gun-solution-kashmir-in-shock-and-anger

Around 6 pm the next day, there was a tip-off about 35 victims of pellet eye injuries at Ward number 11, in Srinagar’s Shri Maharaja Hari Singh hospital. Two senior Kashmiri journalists and I reached the hospital to find out. But there were none. The hospital was almost empty. While looking for them, we found a small five-year-old girl, Muneefa Nazir, with her right eye bandaged. She was lying on the bed and sleeping, with Eid mehendi on her hands, as more than ten family members sat around her looking shattered. She had been brought the previous day at 6.30 pm from Safakadal after a CRPF jawan hit her with a stone from his catapult. She was sitting on her uncle’s bike.

“We were going to distribute the qurbani meat,” Farooq Ahmad Wani, the uncle, told me what had happened. “She sat in front, on the fuel tank. Two people sat behind me. As I tried to cross the road, one CRPF jawan asked me to take another way. As he was talking to me, another CRPF guy across the road hit us with the stone. Muneefa was injured and started bleeding a lot. When I tried to confront him and ask why he did it, he cocked his gun and said I will shoot you if you don’t leave. All the others who gathered to support me also ran away after that.” He added that everything was peaceful and their shift was also coming to an end, at 6 pm, when the incident happened.

One doctor was available when they brought her to the hospital. The doctor, Tariq Qureshi, told the family that the right eyeball has been dislocated and he will examine the damage after ten days and perform a surgery. Muneefa is studying in lower kindergarten. She is the youngest child of Nazeer Ahmad Wani, a cameraman with Asia News Network. “The hospital employees told me that the police is putting pressure on them to discharge my daughter because they don’t want this to be reported by the media. Today, if the doctor had come, they would have discharged, but he didn’t,” he told me. Though he is a journalist, he has not been able to inform anybody because there is no way to communicate. “She has not eaten any food till 2 pm today. The only thing she said was, ‘Take me home, take me home.’”

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I don't think I need to explain anything here?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Three victims with multiple pellets lodged in their torsos were at the second-floor room of a house where a young physiotherapist who had no training in treating such wounds was taking the pellets out. <br><br>“If we have to live here, we need to know how to do this,” he said.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> <a href="https://t.co/86cIG6hZQw">pic.twitter.com/86cIG6hZQw</a></p>— Zeba Siddiqui (@zebatweets) <a href="https://twitter.com/zebatweets/status/1164113936041463808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At Srinagar’s Shri Maharaja Hari Singh Hospital, I met an elderly man who lay staring at the ceiling, a part of his kurta soaked in blood. A shawl shop owner, Rasool was stepping out of his house when he was hit with at least 20 pellets, his son said.<a href="https://t.co/s9hCoyRn7M">https://t.co/s9hCoyRn7M</a></p>— Zeba Siddiqui (@zebatweets) <a href="https://twitter.com/zebatweets/status/1164114416515739648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Kashmiris creating unnecessary problems at the first place and bringing unto themselves these sort of results..WHat more to say.....
 
Kashmiris creating unnecessary problems at the first place and bringing unto themselves these sort of results..WHat more to say.....

Well for one thing, you could apologise..
Apologise for being a fascists extremist that you clearly are
 
Are you an idiot, or have trouble comprehending english.I said it is responsibility of the parents to see their five year old does not get hurt.It is unfortunate that they got hurt.

I don't have to debunk any theories unlike you sitting in some cozy place, I have family and friends fighting for the country in Kashmir putting their lives at stakes.They don't go around trying to injure innocent kids and citizens.

You are first order m0ron stop giving lectures to others and do something for a change.

whats unfortuante is that we have to put up with racist morons like you ona free forum. Im glad many of you tin pot chai wala racists have been exposed.
 
The coward hindu army can only pick on the weak and unarmed otherwise the wouldn't have been ruled for 100s of years.
 
Well for one thing, you could apologise..
Apologise for being a fascists extremist that you clearly are

so you support whats happening in kashmir?

very easy to blame some body using these emotional words like facist, extremist etc etc .
The Government of India has amended a 'law'. That is for what they have been elected to rule at the first place by vast majority of almost 135 crores of people. Naturally they would make laws, modify existing laws, some times wholly reject outdated laws etc etc keeping in mind the well being of all the citizens of the nation as a whole.That being the case there is no need to initiate unnecessary problems at the first place for any body. Other than with a section of people in the 'Kashmir' region in India , no such unrest & incidents are happening as of now in any other region of India. That being the case, if such results are happening to only Kashmiri people, I can only naturally guess that the problem lies with them only.
If I give a cane to somebody to beat me badly & then cry after getting badly beaten... then I am sorry I won't blame the person who beat me.
 
very easy to blame some body using these emotional words like facist, extremist etc etc .
The Government of India has amended a 'law'. That is for what they have been elected to rule at the first place by vast majority of almost 135 crores of people. Naturally they would make laws, modify existing laws, some times wholly reject outdated laws etc etc keeping in mind the well being of all the citizens of the nation as a whole.That being the case there is no need to initiate unnecessary problems at the first place for any body. Other than with a section of people in the 'Kashmir' region in India , no such unrest & incidents are happening as of now in any other region of India. That being the case, if such results are happening to only Kashmiri people, I can only naturally guess that the problem lies with them only.
If I give a cane to somebody to beat me badly & then cry after getting badly beaten... then I am sorry I won't blame the person who beat me.

You didnt answer my question and just gave me a weird rant about "your" law. You are aware that the BJP ripped up your own constitution and literally spat on the democratic process by doing so?

now answer my question do you whole heatedly support the Indian governments actions in Kashmir..
 
The coward hindu army can only pick on the weak and unarmed otherwise the wouldn't have been ruled for 100s of years.

It is hurting me as a secular Indian to see this. I can only imagine how bad it must be for a Pakistani to see fellow Muslims being treated like this #Peace #Justice
 
It is hurting me as a secular Indian to see this. I can only imagine how bad it must be for a Pakistani to see fellow Muslims being treated like this #Peace #Justice

It's unfortunate that there are very few indians, such as yourself, that will stand up for the suffering.
 
It's unfortunate that there are very few indians, such as yourself, that will stand up for the suffering.

Thank you for the kind words :)

As secular people of the world, we need to strive to make it a better place to love. I see that as our duty.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A hospital staffer showing me picture of a pellet victim. This is right before a cop "intercepted" our conversation. <a href="https://t.co/hgzjFbxeNV">pic.twitter.com/hgzjFbxeNV</a></p>— Azaan Javaid (@AzaanJavaid) <a href="https://twitter.com/AzaanJavaid/status/1169674615414673408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Meet the amateur pellet doctors of Srinagar who treat protestors too scared to go to hospital

Ahmad, who lives in Srinagar’s Anchar locality, talks about pellet injuries with the air of an experienced surgeon.

“When pellets enter your body, you feel like everything inside you is burning,” said the 23-year-old, who did not want to reveal his full name. “The pellets are very hot when they are fired. They are very dangerous if they hit a person in the eyes or if they hit your body from a short distance. But if they hit your back or legs from a long distance, you can manage with basic first aid.”

Ahmad is not a doctor, not even a medical student. He studies commerce. But over the past few weeks, he has emerged as one of the many pellet experts in Anchar. Metal pellets, fired from shotguns, are commonly used by security forces to quell civilian protests in Kashmir.

Anchar, part of the larger Soura area in Srinagar, has been a hub of protest since August 5. That was when the Centre scrapped special status for Jammu and Kashmir under Article 370, split the state into two Union Territories and removed Article 35A, which empowered the state government to define “state subjects” and grant them specific rights.

Earlier this month, Asrar Ahmed Khan, a Class 11 student from Buchpora, an area bordering Soura, died of pellet injuries – although the local police insist he was hit by a stone. There have been several more injuries, which went unreported or unrecorded. In many cases, injured youth stayed away from hospitals for fear of arrest. According to local wisdom, police officers dressed as civilians have been deployed at hospitals to identify and arrest boys who took part in protests.

Cut off from hospitals, localities in Srinagar have devised their own ways of treating injuries.

‘War had broken out’

Anchar has seen protests after congregational prayers every Friday since special status was scrapped. The first of these Friday protests took place on August 9, when a procession emerging from Anchar made its way towards Srinagar’s downtown area. They were stopped midway, in Zoonimar, a locality on the outskirts of downtown.

“On August 9, at least 18 people were injured when forces shelled our procession near Zoonimar,” said another homegrown pellet remover, who did not want to be named. “They were immediately rushed to SKIMS. However, we got all of them home the same evening because we were sure that police will come looking for them.”

SKIMS, or the the Sheri-Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences, is one of the top hospitals in the Kashmir Valley. It is also in Soura, just half a kilometre away from Anchar.

The bigger emergency would come two weeks later. After August 9, residents of Anchar had dug up roads and barricaded their locality to prevent security forces from entering. For days, they had been kept at bay, prevented from carrying out night raids and arrests.

But on August 23, it seemed they would finally enter Anchar. Jammu and Kashmir Police forces and men from the Central Reserve Police Force had been deployed at the five barricaded entry points, residents recalled.

“It looked like war had broken out that day,” said Ahmad. “After prayers, clashes broke out across Anchar and boys tossed stones at the police and CRPF over the barricades. More than 200 were injured, including women, children and elderly people. A few boys took pellets in their eyes.”

The injured were gathered in a large hall in the local Jenaab Sahib shrine and treated there, Ahmad said. “The situation was worrying and some local boys managed to get a team of doctors to help us,” he said. “They were from health department. While they treated some serious cases, local boys like us managed less severe injuries. Except for a few boys who were injured in the eyes, nobody went to the hospital.”

A photojournalist who had taken videos of the hall on August 23 said he saw people lying in rows, small groups attending to each patient.

‘Blades and Dettol’

The pellet removers of Anchar have developed their own techniques to treat patients. Their surgical tools are rudimentary – blades and Dettol-soaked cotton.

“There are two ways to squeeze out a pellet from a human body,” said the pellet remover who did not want to be named. “If it’s closer to the upper layer of skin, one can just squeeze it out by pressing down on the skin at two ends of the wound. If a pellet has penetrated deep into the skin, we first use our fingertips to locate it. Then, we use a blade to cut open the skin near that spot and pull it out. After that, we wash the wound with Dettol-soaked cotton and that’s it. Remember, all of this happens without any local anesthesia. And it takes a lot of time.”

Since August 5, local residents say, more than 300 injured people have been treated this way. The pellet removers have had some practice in earlier seasons of protest. In 2016, for instance, hundreds were injured by pellets after the killing of Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani triggered mass protests. “During the 2016 Burhan Wani uprising I treated 15 to 16 boys on my own,” said Ahmad. Some of his friends also became skilled pellet removers that year, he said.

With the fear of arrest keeping people away from hospitals, residents of Anchar have come to depend on homegrown remedies for common ailments as well.

“From typhoid to a cough, we treat everyone on our own,” said one elderly resident of Anchar. “The maximum healthcare we are able to get inside Anchar are from local compounders and pharmacists. Nobody dares to leave Anchar.”

Residents allege the local police make no difference between protestors and civilians going about their daily lives. On September 14, women from Anchar held a demonstration outside the Soura police station. They were protesting against the alleged detention of a young woman. According to local residents, she had gone to buy medicines from Soura’s main market when she was arrested.

A police official at the Soura police station said the woman had been asking fruit vendors in Soura main market to shut shop but denied that she had been arrested. Calls for a civil shutdown to protest against the August 5 decisions have spread across the Valley. In some cases, gunmen have attacked traders who did not follow the shutdown.

Cycle spokes for needles

In the Shia-dominated Zadibal area of downtown Srinagar, the Hussaini Relief Committee, a volunteer organisation, has been hard at work the last few weeks. Founded in 1972, the committee usually holds medical camps before religious festivals and occasions. Traditionally, they are busiest on Ashura, the 10th day of Muharram, the month of mourning for Shia Muslims. The day is usually marked by self-flagellation rituals.

This year, Ashura was observed on September 10. Like every year, the committee had arranged a medical and blood donation camp that day. “The medical camp is presided over by volunteer doctors and people from other walks of life,” said a volunteer who did not want to be identified. “From immediate medical care to mourners to ensuring water for those taking part in processions, our team of 300 volunteers tries to help everyone.”

This year, volunteers at the camp had to deal with a different sort of injury. On September 7, Jammu and Kashmir government had banned all Muharram processions, even minor ones. According to residents of Zadibal, when mourners tried to defy the restrictions, they were showered with pellets.

“Muharram processions in Kashmir have been banned for decades,” said the volunteer., “But this year, the government didn’t even allow small processions within the interiors of our locality. Instead, they fired pellets on a peaceful procession.”

According to volunteers at the Hussaini Relief Committee, more than 100 patients with pellet injuries turned up at the Zadibal camp on September 10. This included women and aged people, they said. “This never happened even at the height of the militancy in the 1990s,” said the volunteer.

With resources stretched at the Zadibal camp this year, even volunteers with no medical training had to pitch in. “When there was a huge rush of injured, we panicked,” said one volunteer. “Our volunteer doctors were doing their best to give medical attention to the injured but we were totally outnumbered. It was then that I brought the steel spoke of a cycle wheel and beat one side into a point. After that, I heated up the pointed end with a cigarette lighter to sterilise it. I used it to take out pellets from more than a dozen injured.”

According to him, the injured were were scared to go to hospitals because all exits from Zadibal were sealed by the police and CRPF. “If they got hold of an injured person, the police and CRPF personnel would have beaten them up,” he claimed.

A medical warning

While many see no option but to get their wounds treated by amateur pellet removers, doctors in Kashmir warn of the dangers of such treatments – from skin damage to infections to the damage of vital organs.

“Usually, we don’t take out pellets from a patient’s body if he has been hit in the back and legs,” said a senior surgeon at the Shri Maharaja Hari Singh Hospital in Srinagar. “Because that means we have to make as many incisions as there are pellets in the patient’s body. Our priority is to monitor the patient if he’s been hit by pellets around vital organs like the kidneys, intestines or liver. If the pellets have perforated deep into the skin, we monitor the patient to check that they are not affecting the functioning of these vital organs.”

The initial treatment must be followed by a course of antibiotics, he continued. “Since pellets are foreign objects, antibiotics become essential,” the surgeon said. “Normally, we avoid taking out every pellet from the body because the presence of these iron particles inside the skin is not dangerous.”

Human rights activists in Kashmir point out that cutting off the injured from proper medical aid amounts to a violation of international humanitarian laws outlined in the Geneva Conventions.

Every injured person, even if he is a member of an armed group, has the right to medical aid “without any adverse distinction founded on sex, race, nationality, religion, political opinions, or any other similar criteria,” says Article 12 of the 1949 Geneva Conventions. India was among the countries which ratified the conventions.

https://scroll.in/article/937742/me...treat-protestors-too-scared-to-go-to-hospital
 
SRINAGAR: At least two people were killed in grenade attacks in occupied Kashmir on Tuesday and two fighters were shot dead by Indian forces, officials said, in one of the region’s most violent days since New Delhi imposed a security clampdown there.

The Indian government shut down internet and phone lines and flooded the disputed region with security personnel to back its Aug 5 move to strip occupied Kashmir of its autonomous status and impose tighter central control.

Amid heightened tensions, suspected Kashmiri fighters carried out two grenade attacks on Tuesday, a top police official said.

One was thrown at a group of village councillors and government officials waiting outside an administration building in the village of Hakura, south of Srinagar. The police official said two people were killed and at least four injured.

The second grenade was lobbed into a store next to an entrance to the University of Kashmir in Srinagar, injuring three people, the official added.

The attacks were the worst on one day since the clampdown started. A grenade attack in early November killed one person.

The Indian government has insisted that “normalcy” is returning to occupied Kashmir, but locals are still cut off from the internet and dozens of political leaders remain in detention.

Food shops are only open for a few hours each day and no public buses and taxis have operated since the clampdown. Protests are held regularly.

A military spokesman claimed two fighters were killed in a siege in the Pulwama district on Monday and Tuesday. Media reports said both were Kashmiris.

An official said Indian forces cornered two fighters from the Hizbul Mujahideen group, killing one after a brief firefight on Monday night.

The other was shot dead in the early hours of Tuesday, he added.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1519033/grenade-attacks-in-held-kashmir-leave-two-dead.
 
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Kashmiris creating unnecessary problems at the first place and bringing unto themselves these sort of results..WHat more to say.....

I look and watch all that is happening in Indian Kashmir and cant help but wonder how these muslim Kashmiri's wasted living under the umbrella of that diabolical article 370. They could have have gone to mainland India to make their money, buy land there or promote their own employment/business etc in Kashmir where no one from mainland India would have been able to buy any property or land. However they had to ignore all the benefits that were laid out to them on a royal platter and choose Wahabi Islamic fundamentalism, which led to the removal of article 370.. Well I hope they are happy now, because if they don't shape up, they are in for an eternal butt whooping, all the Pakistani moral support on message boards or crying fake tears in front of the UN wont change a damn thing..... This is a lesson for people in general, don't dirty your dinner table...

Wahabi Islamic fundamentalism is a curse will lead you into the gutter, it has no place in today's world....
 
I look and watch all that is happening in Indian Kashmir and cant help but wonder how these muslim Kashmiri's wasted living under the umbrella of that diabolical article 370. They could have have gone to mainland India to make their money, buy land there or promote their own employment/business etc in Kashmir where no one from mainland India would have been able to buy any property or land. However they had to ignore all the benefits that were laid out to them on a royal platter and choose Wahabi Islamic fundamentalism, which led to the removal of article 370.. Well I hope they are happy now, because if they don't shape up, they are in for an eternal butt whooping, all the Pakistani moral support on message boards or crying fake tears in front of the UN wont change a damn thing..... This is a lesson for people in general, don't dirty your dinner table...

Wahabi Islamic fundamentalism is a curse will lead you into the gutter, it has no place in today's world....

In my opinion it's official, India is a terrorist state, led by a terrorist
 
Yeah.

UN designated terrorists roam around in India doing rallies and public addresses and that too with police protection.

Last time I checked, an elected RSS/BJP goons were telling minorities to be subservient or else.

Last time I checked, RSS/BJP needed over 1 M occupying army to keep Kashmiri on lock down against their own wish, blind them, rape female, indiscriminately arrest anyone while depriving of basic necessities.

I guess Indian elect radicalizes religious extremists.

And whats up with, Kashmiri would have been better off if they has become subservient to Hindu raj. lol
 
Last time I checked, an elected RSS/BJP goons were telling minorities to be subservient or else.

Last time I checked, RSS/BJP needed over 1 M occupying army to keep Kashmiri on lock down against their own wish, blind them, rape female, indiscriminately arrest anyone while depriving of basic necessities.

I guess Indian elect radicalizes religious extremists.

And whats up with, Kashmiri would have been better off if they has become subservient to Hindu raj. lol

Are there any RSS slash BJP "goons" who got designated as Terrorists by the UN ?
 
Are there any RSS slash BJP "goons" who got designated as Terrorists by the UN ?

LOL

As if UN has a set criteria who is terrorist and who isn't.

RSS/BJP goon has Indian's money to offer, which most Indians gladly pay because some how Hindu raj is coming back to India.
 
LOL

As if UN has a set criteria who is terrorist and who isn't.

RSS/BJP goon has money to offer.

UN is the highest governing body in the world.

I'll believe them over some random online nobody.
 
UN is the highest governing body in the world.

I'll believe them over some random online nobody.

LOL

Never asked you to believe anyone online nor assumed you would.

But one can easily believe everything about RSS/BJP because of what they have spoke about during campaigning and after getting elected, and that narrative is most highlighted in Indian media because it is easily sold to Indians.
 
LOL

Never asked you to believe anyone online nor assumed you would.

But one can easily believe everything about RSS/BJP because of what they have spoke about during campaigning and after getting elected, and that narrative is most highlighted in Indian media because it is easily sold to Indians.

I don't care what they spoke during campaign. BJP has many leaders who are dumb as ducks. So, you will get a few stupid statements here and there. Even more during election campaigns. Don't how this makes them a terrorist.
 
I don't care what they spoke during campaign. BJP has many leaders who are dumb as ducks. So, you will get a few stupid statements here and there. Even more during election campaigns. Don't how this makes them a terrorist.

Inciting violence in the name of religion and politics.
 
"Shouts of 'chal ya rakhskah ha aayi' (‘run, the police vehicle is close’), cries, slaps, men in uniform dragging boys down deserted roads and gunshots."

These are the sights and sounds that make up 14-year-old Afaan Mustafa’s dreams.

It has been more a month since Mustafa, a student of Class IX, was released from police custody after around 13 days, but the fear of uniformed men continues to follow him like a shadow.

On August 21, Mustafa, a resident of the uptown area of Natipora, Srinagar, was going to offer Asar prayers, when a police vehicle, (popularly known as Rakshak) picked him up outside the gate of the mosque in Azadbasti Natipora — five kilometres away from Lal Chowk.

With no channel for communication open, a lady residing a few metres away from Mustafa’s home came to inform his family about the incident. He was first taken to the Chanapora police station and later shifted to the Saddar police station in Baghat-e-Barzullah, some three kilometres away from his home.

Mustafa was one of an estimated 4,000 people, including minors, who had been arrested in Kashmir after the Indian government stripped the partially autonomous region of its special status in early August, provoking violent protests in the Muslim-majority area.

During initial press briefings in Srinagar held by government spokesperson Rohit Kansal accompanied by other officials, the question over the number of detentions was raised continuously by journalists, but it was either ignored or replied to rudely. "It is easy to say hundreds have been detained, thousands have been detained. Give me a specific case," countered Kansal over the question one day.

"Sir, when you can cite the number of people who offered prayers in different parts of Kashmir on Eid, why can’t the government say how many people have been detained?" questioned a journalist in the briefing as others around him cheered.

The government in New Delhi has defended its decision to revoke the special status of Jammu and Kashmir as a step to boost the economy and for the well being of the common people. However, most Kashmiris say this has increased alienation and anger on the ground. Of the thousands of Kashmiris arrested, most have been listed as "stone pelters and miscreants" according to a Reuters report.

Children like Mustafa have been raised amidst conflict and continuous disturbance — setting the stage for their eventual support to the separatist movement through attendance in funerals and protests, helping militants escape from encounter sites and stone-throwing. On the other hand, the measures used by the military forces to tame these youth, like pellets guns that have blinded hundreds, nocturnal raids, illegal detentions and frisking have served to only add fuel to the fire.

The Wire spoke to over a dozen minors, who had been detained for weeks, and their parents, to understand the result of the action on their future. Most of them opined contrary to the claims of the central government that younger Kashmiri will be better off now.

Mustafa, while recalling the day he was picked by the J-K police, said, "They had cordoned me and were forcefully trying to bundle me inside the vehicle. While resisting, a cop hit me on the back of my neck and I fell unconscious".

Sitting in a small semi-dark room, he recalled his first reaction when he gained consciousness inside a dark lockup. "A ray of light was coming from a small window. There were three more boys inside the room but I couldn’t see them and in fear, a shiver ran down my spine. They later told me they had been picked up a day before my arrest," Mustafa told The Wire later.

Inside the lockup
Next morning Mustafa, along with other boys, was shifted to Saddar police station in Baghat where he encountered others of his age who had similar allegations to make. "They hit me on my legs and feet with the sticks repeatedly. I was crying and was asked for mercy….but they didn’t listen, Aab maro pather…maro…maro (‘throw stones now…throw…throw’)," said Mustafa.

"Shabir Khan, the deputy superintendent of police stationed at Cargo Srinagar, himself beat me up and asked me to identify the boys in the video," he added.

Also read: In Shopian, Kashmiri family alleges illegal detention of minors

Mustafa’s family used to send him food from home as he had complained about unhygienic food inside custody. His family members made requests and sometimes pleaded for his release, but there was no response.

"We were asking them [police] to tell us what his crime was. Earlier they told us that they would show us a video recording of the area where young boys were throwing stones at forces. They claimed he [Mustafa] was also among them but they even didn’t show it to us," said 44-year-old Gulam Mustafa, a government employee and Mustafa’s father.

Notably, in the recent past, after the rise in stone-pelting incidents in the Valley, forces would record protests only to identify the people participating and later would allegedly make nocturnal raids to arrest the youth. "This is a simple method they are using to catch protesters and sometimes, when in doubt, they arrest innocents as well," said the senior Mustafa.

"They even damage property like windowpanes and household items to pass a message to the area against disturbing the law and order," he said.

After two days, he was shifted back to the Chanapora police station where he found more boys from his area in lockup. Among them was 12-year-old Numan Khan of Natipora, a class VII student at Dawn Public School.

“I had a pet cat at home and was going to buy food for her and suddenly CRPF men grabbed me, saying, ‘Bardo isko gadi mai, tum pather marte ho’ (‘bundle him inside the cab, you are throwing stones’),” he told The Wire.

Khan, after finding himself inside a CRPF vehicle that was stationed at the main square of Natipora, started crying and tried to explain to them the reason for his being out. But, according to his mother, he was treated like a wanted criminal. “When they locked me up inside the room for the first time, I thought I will die in suffocation and fear of darkness,” he said.

Next to him was Mustafa. Both were helpless and before uniformed men. "They were even asking us to clean the kitchen and sometimes we were asked to cut the stubble of the courtyard by hand. If anyone resisted, they were kicked and made to follow the order. They said that this is our punishment for throwing stones," said Mustafa.

Mustafa had an eye infection while cutting the stubble, which caused severe swelling. "For two days I pleaded with them to take him for a medical check-up but they didn’t. Later, I narrated the situation to a medical assistant and who gave him an anti-allergic medicine," said Mustafa’s father. "Soon after his release, we took him to an ophthalmologist for a proper check-up. These actions only give trouble to poor people," he said.

Mustafa was in police lock-up for 13 days. According to his family, they continuously made rounds to the police station to know the status of his release. "We used to wait for hours outside the gate and sometimes were threatened by the police for not leaving the area. These 15 days were like 15 years for us," said Mustafa’s father.

"They were asking me to name the boys who were throwing stones at them. How would I know? If I would have named anyone, they would have picked him up and I would be branded a traitor," said Khan who was released after three days from police custody only when his father, Suhail Khan, an engineer, assured them that he would remain home.

Change in behaviour
On September 2, Mustafa was released after his family showed his school certificates to the station house officer (SHO), which proved him to be a minor. "The moment I entered my home, I could not believe the sight. The three windows in my room were like a treasure as the lockup didn’t even have a bulb," he said.

On November 15, Mustafa had a bout of intense nose bleeding and was rushed to Srinagar’s SMHS hospital where, according to his family, doctors said that he had an injury in his skull that caused the bleeding. Mustafa is now undergoing treatment.

According to his family, since his release, his behaviour has changed. “We are very cautious about him now. He has started acting impulsively about small things,” his father told The Wire.

"Actually, he was abused there and now he feels a sense of injustice," his father murmured. “We are highly concerned," he said.

Families like Mustafa’s and Khan’s have started going for weekly counselling sessions to help the boys cope. "The way they have been treated inside police lockups has not helped them in any way. If they [police] think that these moves can help them reduce incidents of stone-throwing, I guess they are quite wrong," said Mustafa’s uncle, who didn’t want to be named.

Mustafa’s appetite has also been affected since his release. He has started showing a disinterest in studies. Most of the families that The Wire spoke to said that the forces had not only harassed minors but their families as well.

They raised some questions over the state’s treatment for dealing with such cases. "If, for example, a 10-year-old boy throws a stone, should they deal with it in this way? As a mature party, they should have proper strategies to deal with them," said Mohammad Maqbool, a parent of a minor.

Also read: ‘Didn’t challenge detention fearing consequences,’ says jailed PDP leader’s daughter

According to Maqbool, beating minors up ruthlessly results in more anger and violence in boys. "Elders can be violent if they are beaten up mercilessly. Now, imagine the level of rage and bitterness this can create amongst youngsters," he said.

Mustafa’s father told The Wire later that the boy sometimes says that he has studied enough and sees little reason in concentrating on a normal future.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1520603/beaten-heckled-made-examples-of-detained-kashmiri-minors-speak-out.
 
"Shouts of 'chal ya rakhskah ha aayi' (‘run, the police vehicle is close’), cries, slaps, men in uniform dragging boys down deserted roads and gunshots."

These are the sights and sounds that make up 14-year-old Afaan Mustafa’s dreams.

It has been more a month since Mustafa, a student of Class IX, was released from police custody after around 13 days, but the fear of uniformed men continues to follow him like a shadow.

On August 21, Mustafa, a resident of the uptown area of Natipora, Srinagar, was going to offer Asar prayers, when a police vehicle, (popularly known as Rakshak) picked him up outside the gate of the mosque in Azadbasti Natipora — five kilometres away from Lal Chowk.

With no channel for communication open, a lady residing a few metres away from Mustafa’s home came to inform his family about the incident. He was first taken to the Chanapora police station and later shifted to the Saddar police station in Baghat-e-Barzullah, some three kilometres away from his home.

Mustafa was one of an estimated 4,000 people, including minors, who had been arrested in Kashmir after the Indian government stripped the partially autonomous region of its special status in early August, provoking violent protests in the Muslim-majority area.

During initial press briefings in Srinagar held by government spokesperson Rohit Kansal accompanied by other officials, the question over the number of detentions was raised continuously by journalists, but it was either ignored or replied to rudely. "It is easy to say hundreds have been detained, thousands have been detained. Give me a specific case," countered Kansal over the question one day.

"Sir, when you can cite the number of people who offered prayers in different parts of Kashmir on Eid, why can’t the government say how many people have been detained?" questioned a journalist in the briefing as others around him cheered.

The government in New Delhi has defended its decision to revoke the special status of Jammu and Kashmir as a step to boost the economy and for the well being of the common people. However, most Kashmiris say this has increased alienation and anger on the ground. Of the thousands of Kashmiris arrested, most have been listed as "stone pelters and miscreants" according to a Reuters report.

Children like Mustafa have been raised amidst conflict and continuous disturbance — setting the stage for their eventual support to the separatist movement through attendance in funerals and protests, helping militants escape from encounter sites and stone-throwing. On the other hand, the measures used by the military forces to tame these youth, like pellets guns that have blinded hundreds, nocturnal raids, illegal detentions and frisking have served to only add fuel to the fire.

The Wire spoke to over a dozen minors, who had been detained for weeks, and their parents, to understand the result of the action on their future. Most of them opined contrary to the claims of the central government that younger Kashmiri will be better off now.

Mustafa, while recalling the day he was picked by the J-K police, said, "They had cordoned me and were forcefully trying to bundle me inside the vehicle. While resisting, a cop hit me on the back of my neck and I fell unconscious".

Sitting in a small semi-dark room, he recalled his first reaction when he gained consciousness inside a dark lockup. "A ray of light was coming from a small window. There were three more boys inside the room but I couldn’t see them and in fear, a shiver ran down my spine. They later told me they had been picked up a day before my arrest," Mustafa told The Wire later.

Inside the lockup
Next morning Mustafa, along with other boys, was shifted to Saddar police station in Baghat where he encountered others of his age who had similar allegations to make. "They hit me on my legs and feet with the sticks repeatedly. I was crying and was asked for mercy….but they didn’t listen, Aab maro pather…maro…maro (‘throw stones now…throw…throw’)," said Mustafa.

"Shabir Khan, the deputy superintendent of police stationed at Cargo Srinagar, himself beat me up and asked me to identify the boys in the video," he added.

Also read: In Shopian, Kashmiri family alleges illegal detention of minors

Mustafa’s family used to send him food from home as he had complained about unhygienic food inside custody. His family members made requests and sometimes pleaded for his release, but there was no response.

"We were asking them [police] to tell us what his crime was. Earlier they told us that they would show us a video recording of the area where young boys were throwing stones at forces. They claimed he [Mustafa] was also among them but they even didn’t show it to us," said 44-year-old Gulam Mustafa, a government employee and Mustafa’s father.

Notably, in the recent past, after the rise in stone-pelting incidents in the Valley, forces would record protests only to identify the people participating and later would allegedly make nocturnal raids to arrest the youth. "This is a simple method they are using to catch protesters and sometimes, when in doubt, they arrest innocents as well," said the senior Mustafa.

"They even damage property like windowpanes and household items to pass a message to the area against disturbing the law and order," he said.

After two days, he was shifted back to the Chanapora police station where he found more boys from his area in lockup. Among them was 12-year-old Numan Khan of Natipora, a class VII student at Dawn Public School.

“I had a pet cat at home and was going to buy food for her and suddenly CRPF men grabbed me, saying, ‘Bardo isko gadi mai, tum pather marte ho’ (‘bundle him inside the cab, you are throwing stones’),” he told The Wire.

Khan, after finding himself inside a CRPF vehicle that was stationed at the main square of Natipora, started crying and tried to explain to them the reason for his being out. But, according to his mother, he was treated like a wanted criminal. “When they locked me up inside the room for the first time, I thought I will die in suffocation and fear of darkness,” he said.

Next to him was Mustafa. Both were helpless and before uniformed men. "They were even asking us to clean the kitchen and sometimes we were asked to cut the stubble of the courtyard by hand. If anyone resisted, they were kicked and made to follow the order. They said that this is our punishment for throwing stones," said Mustafa.

Mustafa had an eye infection while cutting the stubble, which caused severe swelling. "For two days I pleaded with them to take him for a medical check-up but they didn’t. Later, I narrated the situation to a medical assistant and who gave him an anti-allergic medicine," said Mustafa’s father. "Soon after his release, we took him to an ophthalmologist for a proper check-up. These actions only give trouble to poor people," he said.

Mustafa was in police lock-up for 13 days. According to his family, they continuously made rounds to the police station to know the status of his release. "We used to wait for hours outside the gate and sometimes were threatened by the police for not leaving the area. These 15 days were like 15 years for us," said Mustafa’s father.

"They were asking me to name the boys who were throwing stones at them. How would I know? If I would have named anyone, they would have picked him up and I would be branded a traitor," said Khan who was released after three days from police custody only when his father, Suhail Khan, an engineer, assured them that he would remain home.

Change in behaviour
On September 2, Mustafa was released after his family showed his school certificates to the station house officer (SHO), which proved him to be a minor. "The moment I entered my home, I could not believe the sight. The three windows in my room were like a treasure as the lockup didn’t even have a bulb," he said.

On November 15, Mustafa had a bout of intense nose bleeding and was rushed to Srinagar’s SMHS hospital where, according to his family, doctors said that he had an injury in his skull that caused the bleeding. Mustafa is now undergoing treatment.

According to his family, since his release, his behaviour has changed. “We are very cautious about him now. He has started acting impulsively about small things,” his father told The Wire.

"Actually, he was abused there and now he feels a sense of injustice," his father murmured. “We are highly concerned," he said.

Families like Mustafa’s and Khan’s have started going for weekly counselling sessions to help the boys cope. "The way they have been treated inside police lockups has not helped them in any way. If they [police] think that these moves can help them reduce incidents of stone-throwing, I guess they are quite wrong," said Mustafa’s uncle, who didn’t want to be named.

Mustafa’s appetite has also been affected since his release. He has started showing a disinterest in studies. Most of the families that The Wire spoke to said that the forces had not only harassed minors but their families as well.

They raised some questions over the state’s treatment for dealing with such cases. "If, for example, a 10-year-old boy throws a stone, should they deal with it in this way? As a mature party, they should have proper strategies to deal with them," said Mohammad Maqbool, a parent of a minor.

Also read: ‘Didn’t challenge detention fearing consequences,’ says jailed PDP leader’s daughter

According to Maqbool, beating minors up ruthlessly results in more anger and violence in boys. "Elders can be violent if they are beaten up mercilessly. Now, imagine the level of rage and bitterness this can create amongst youngsters," he said.

Mustafa’s father told The Wire later that the boy sometimes says that he has studied enough and sees little reason in concentrating on a normal future.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1520603/beaten-heckled-made-examples-of-detained-kashmiri-minors-speak-out.
 
Kashmir users kicked off WhatsApp

Users in Indian-administered Kashmir are being kicked off WhatsApp because of inactivity, the BBC has learned.

It is a side-effect of the four-month internet blackout, imposed by the Indian government after the region was stripped of its autonomy in August.

Facebook, which owns the WhatsApp messaging service, said users would need to be re-added to groups "upon regaining access to the internet".

India has 400 million WhatsApp users, making the country its biggest market.

In a statement, a WhatsApp spokesperson told the BBC it "cares deeply about providing users everywhere with the ability to privately communicate with their friends and loved ones".

But it added: "To maintain security and limit data retention, WhatsApp accounts generally expire after 120 days of inactivity.

"When that happens, those accounts automatically exit all their WhatsApp groups. People will need to be re-added to groups upon regaining access to the internet and joining WhatsApp again."

In August, the Indian government revoked part of the constitution that gave Indian-administered Kashmir special status. The region was stripped of its autonomy and split into two federally-run territories, with most of the state's political leaders and workers incarcerated.

Justifying the internet blackout, India's Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar said social media and the internet had been used to radicalise people.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50685595.
 
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