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Inzamam-ul-Haq vs Younis Khan


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Actually, I never explicitly stated that Yunus did and Yusuf didn't. But I guess it was implied in my list.

When I think of Yunus I think of WC T20 win, I think of his active and encouraging captaincy, I think of his aggressive demeanor in the field.

I think of his 267 and 84* in the Banglore test, in the win against India.

Yusuf, though much more talented than Yunus, just doesn't have the fight in him.



in that case Tendulkar is a very mediocre, in fact a poor, batsman, seeing as the captaincy is being taken into consideration

his 267 was a very good knock but didnt show those qualities you mentioned, it just showed a batsman who's in a good form

when I think of Yousuf I think of his record year with 1788 runs, i think of his 111 vs the Aussies in 2004, i think of his 112 vs India out of a total of 216
 
One thing is clear here that YK is hugely underrated.
Overall record he matches Inzi.
Hundreds to games ratio, conversion rate of 50s to 100s and 100s to
150,record in AUS he is a clear winner.
Only thing that Inzi wins is he has done it over twice as many games.But then again YK suffered big time from lack of test cricket at his peak.He has only played four tests since Jan 08.

As for ppl laughing at comparison we are not comparing any laloo panjoo to Inzi here.YK was in top ten icc ranked batsman for 5 straight years and reached #1 only four tests ago.He is a world cup winning captain if you have forgotten.

I agree, Younis is hugely underrated

But you said it yourself

Whatever Younis has achieved and all those good ratios and averages you gave are brilliant and equalling Inzi, just that Inzi has mantained it over 120 tests.
This is where he wins it
 
One thing is clear here that YK is hugely underrated.
Overall record he matches Inzi.
Hundreds to games ratio, conversion rate of 50s to 100s and 100s to
150,record in AUS he is a clear winner.
Only thing that Inzi wins is he has done it over twice as many games.But then again YK suffered big time from lack of test cricket at his peak.He has only played four tests since Jan 08.

As for ppl laughing at comparison we are not comparing any laloo panjoo to Inzi here.YK was in top ten icc ranked batsman for 5 straight years and reached #1 only four tests ago.He is a world cup winning captain if you have forgotten.



one thing is clear. as SOSami said, Inzamam is getting a bum deal and if he's being compared to Younus then he is being vastly underrated. this is a joke, just cuz Younus is all you think of night and day.
you've said it in posts before that Younus is underrated and lots of people have agreed with you. that doesnt mean you start such a stupid thread where you try to show that Younus is better than Inzamam.
 
Only thing is that Inzi has done it in twice as many games?
 
Only thing is that Inzi has done it in twice as many games?

Achievements/Statistics wise, that is the main area where Inzi has the edge and where he wins this competition easily IMO
 
@Fastbowler.Your issue about this thread has been addressed in #80 so please.stop going in circles.
 
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Younis Khan loves Inzamam ul Haq
 
That says "1" after, does it?

I think Younis has spoken.

Close the thread. :yk
 
@Fastbowler.Your issue about this thread has been addressed in #80 so please.stop going in circles.



no it hasnt. anyways you're the one going in circles with your YK is the best player ever threads. I haven't forgotten you YK1 Faithful till the end! I will always be with you YK, for better or for worse!threads.
 
no it hasnt. anyways you're the one going in circles with your YK is the best player ever threads. I haven't forgotten you YK1 Faithful till the end! I will always be with you YK, for better or for worse!threads.

Lol...
When did I create such a thread?
 
Lets summarize what we have

Inzamam averages 9 more runs in wins, averages 12 runs less in match drawn and averages 5 runs less in matches lost.

Inzamam averaged 43 till 1998 while playing along with saleem malik, saed anwar, Ijaz ahmad. in 1998 Yousaf made his debut and after his debut Inzamam averaged 50.43 in hist next 9 years.

At same point in their career.

YK. 63 112 7 5260 313 50.09 16 21

Inzi.63 106 12 4244 200* 45.14 10 25

Younis Khan hasn't played against Aussies since Mcgrath and Warne retired.

Most part of 90's Inzi did not do justice to his ability and talent because he didn't had perform day in day out. Pakistan had other match winners and they all chipped in. Inzi took responsibility on himself once some of them started decline/retire. To me know doubt he would have performed much better if he had more responsibility in 90's. Also let’s not forget in 90's averaging 40+ was equivalent of 50+ of 00's.

Before you started bashing me for YK hater I’m not and been his fan for 10 years now. Old timers on this site and from BBC days will tell you this. YK is hard worker and no doubt will be regarded as Pakistani legend but Inzi was Inzi.
 
in that case Tendulkar is a very mediocre, in fact a poor, batsman, seeing as the captaincy is being taken into consideration

his 267 was a very good knock but didnt show those qualities you mentioned, it just showed a batsman who's in a good form

when I think of Yousuf I think of his record year with 1788 runs, i think of his 111 vs the Aussies in 2004, i think of his 112 vs India out of a total of 216

Wrong analogy with Tendulkar. Tendulkar's accomplishments put him WAY out of reach of Yusuf or Yunus. However, I would rate Gavaskar over Tendulkar for some of the same reasons I mentioned above. Gavaskar's signature innings and 10,000 runs in the 70's and 80's against those bowling attacks stand out more than Tendulkar's.

Don't get me wrong, I love to watch Yusuf bat, moreso than Yunus. But I just have too many harsh memories of him failing when all depended on him (his magic year notwithstanding.)

Anyway, this thread is about Inzy vs. Yunus and I would definitely pick Inzy.
 
Inzi. 120 200 22 8830 329 49.60 16345 54.02 25 46

YK. 63 112 7 5260 313 50.09 9789 53.73 16 21

The key difference is 120 test v/s 63 at similar averages.
Thats almost double the test.

In almost all cases performance dips at end of career forcing player to retire.
Although in fairness to YK he's dropped for reason other than performance/health.

So far Longetivity makes Inzy >> YK.
If YK returns and maintain his avg for 30 more tests then YK > Inzy.
 
the bowling standards in the 2000s are so low, that the runs being scored since should be taken with a grain of salt.

In the 90s, there were Warne, Wasim, Waqar, Donald, Pollock, Ambrose, Walsh, Mcgarth, Murli,

in the 2000s the best bowlers were Murli, Kumble, Harbajan, Nitni, and Warne.

Eminently sensible post.

Why do you think Tendulkar is plundering so many runs as a pensioner?

There is absolutely NO comparison between Inzi and YK (and I really like YK)

The comparison is between Inzi and Miandad.

YK vs MY.

Every batsman has a team or a particular country where their record isn't as strong.

Even Tendulkar and Ponting.

The tragedy is that Inzi never even fulfilled his full potential. He should have been in the Ponting and Tendulkar bracket.
 
Eminently sensible post.

Why do you think Tendulkar is plundering so many runs as a pensioner?

There is absolutely NO comparison between Inzi and YK (and I really like YK)

The comparison is between Inzi and Miandad.

YK vs MY.

Every batsman has a team or a particular country where their record isn't as strong.

Even Tendulkar and Ponting.

The tragedy is that Inzi never even fulfilled his full potential. He should have been in the Ponting and Tendulkar bracket.

Whose fault is that mate?
 
People saying YK is better than Inzi just have NO clue. YK is the most over hyped Pakistani cricket player in history. Some of you really need to actually watch the game.
 
Batting at No.3, the most crucial batting position:-

Younis Khan
46 80 3913 313 50.81 53.86 12 12

Inzamam-ul-Haq
9 12 291 83 24.25 43.23 0 2
 
True, but not in Inzamam's case.

I was only using Butt as an analogy - there has rarely been an orgnised and productive leadership within Pak cricket.

I am not absolving Inzi of any blame - as ultimately he is the master of his own destiny.

But - it would be so much easier if we has had the leadership of say Aus Eng - even India!!
 
Saeed Anwar was better than Inzi, YK, and Moyo.

Anyway back on topic, Inzi wins over YK due to longevity.

However, if our team was playing against the Aussies, I'd pick YK over Inzi.
 
Batting at No.3, the most crucial batting position:-

Younis Khan
46 80 3913 313 50.81 53.86 12 12

Inzamam-ul-Haq
9 12 291 83 24.25 43.23 0 2

Are you trying to argue that YK is better than Inzi?

There is no comparison!
 
Btw, some posters mentioned Inzi being really highly rated by other international cricketers or former cricketers.

That's not the case with Shane Warne. I remember a list Warne came out with a few years back. Inzi was way down the list, something like 40 or 50 on the list, no doubt reflecting his performances against Warne and Co when he played the Aussies.
 
By saying that YK is better than Inzi, no one is trying to downgrade Inzi, it's just a fact that YK is a better test batsman, even the stats prove that.

Inzi was a very good test batsman and an even better ODI player, way better than YK in ODIs, but as far as Test goes YK is better.
 
By saying that YK is better than Inzi, no one is trying to downgrade Inzi, it's just a fact that YK is a better test batsman, even the stats prove that.

Inzi was a very good test batsman and an even better ODI player, way better than YK in ODIs, but as far as Test goes YK is better.

Stats wise yk is better than viv Richards. You are delusional if you think yk>inzi.
 
Btw, some posters mentioned Inzi being really highly rated by other international cricketers or former cricketers.

That's not the case with Shane Warne. I remember a list Warne came out with a few years back. Inzi was way down the list, something like 40 or 50 on the list, no doubt reflecting his performances against Warne and Co when he played the Aussies.

Yeah he rated Yousuf a lot higher than Inzi in that list.
 
By saying that YK is better than Inzi, no one is trying to downgrade Inzi, it's just a fact that YK is a better test batsman, even the stats prove that.

Inzi was a very good test batsman and an even better ODI player, way better than YK in ODIs, but as far as Test goes YK is better.

The boy did the great job, but I thinks I better than Younis Bhai :inzi
 
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Inzi was never a great batsmen in the 90's It took a long time for him to become 2nd or 3rd best pakistani batsmen.........Saeed was easily the best available batsmen for Pakistan in the 90's and comparable to sachin or lara...........But over all Inzi is a better batsmen than yunis though............
 
Inzi was never a great batsmen in the 90's It took a long time for him to become 2nd or 3rd best pakistani batsmen.........Saeed was easily the best available batsmen for Pakistan in the 90's and comparable to sachin or lara...........But over all Inzi is a better batsmen than yunis though............

Nobody become great overnight.

Saeed Anwar was excellent but unfortunately did not sustain it for a long enough period.

In ODIs Anwar was better in 90's but not in tests.

People have such short memories...
 
Well to be honest , I feel funny that we can compare both ... like that ... we have to compare them through match winning innings.. there is long way to go for younus khan before you can compare with someone who isnt playing any more ... well for me Inziiii no doubt leading the way
 
There is no comparison. It is a crime to compare inzi with any other pakistani players barring miandad.

Inzi is the best batsman pak has ever produced, I would rate him ahead of miandad.. He had some short comings against quality leg spin or fast tracks like south africa, but who doesn't have short comings.

While judging a batsman one should always take the bowling quality of that era in to consideration. Inzi played in the 90s when the quality of the bowling was of the highest quality, where as younis, yousuf, kallis, dravid and ponting dominated the 2000s when the quality of the bowling overall has depreciated a great deal. things only started to change after 2007 with new good bowlers coming up.

If some one has witnessed his batting against fast bowling, a question like this will never cross their mind. never in his life he looked hurried while playing his shots against fast bowlers.

in other words he is simply the best batsman pak has ever produced even ahead of miandad (who actually made the most out of his talent through his mental strength)

I can't agree more
 
Nobody become great overnight.

Saeed Anwar was excellent but unfortunately did not sustain it for a long enough period.

In ODIs Anwar was better in 90's but not in tests.

People have such short memories...

I think you have a short memory. Anwar was a way better batsman in the 90s than Inzi, and they faced the same bowling attack. Plus, Anwar faced the new ball, whereas Inzi batted lower down the order.

Anwar went through emotional trauma due to his daugher's death and missed out about 2-3 years of his prime.

After that, he was unjustly dropped, despite being our best bat in the '03 WC.

Anwar was a better batsman than Inzi, and rated especially highly by top class teams, such as Aus.
 
I think you have a short memory. Anwar was a way better batsman in the 90s than Inzi, and they faced the same bowling attack. Plus, Anwar faced the new ball, whereas Inzi batted lower down the order.

Anwar went through emotional trauma due to his daugher's death and missed out about 2-3 years of his prime.

After that, he was unjustly dropped, despite being our best bat in the '03 WC.

Anwar was a better batsman than Inzi, and rated especially highly by top class teams, such as Aus.

I would like to differ.. Anwar was the best pak batsman in the ODIs and their biggest match winner ever in ODIs, that can be clearly demonstrated by his match winnings knocks and the number of man of the match awards.

But in test it is inzi all the way. Look at the number of centuries in winnings cause (17) to that of 8 by anwar. Look at his average anwar was good but never as good as inzi in test matches. Inzi has 9 man of the match awards and how many YK has? He is the biggest match winner for Pak in tests after wasim akram and imran khan..

Some highlight his performance against banladesh, but if not for his class knock pak would have lost to bangladesh.

Anwar was never compared with the likes of Sachin and Lara in test matches. but there was a phase when Inzi and Steve waugh joined Sacin and Lara in that elite group as the best test batsmen of the world.

YK can be compared to MoYo (i would rate MoYo higher), and the modern breed of batsman like Sanga, Jayawardene and sehwag and can be ranked.. but never with Inzi.

In otherwords, for most part of his career, Inzi's wicket was the most prized wicket for any team that played Pak.. but YK can never claim that.. until Inzi was there, he was the most important wicket and when he quit MoYo became the most important wicket.
 
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In the past 12 months Saeed Ajmal has scored one fifty and averages 12. Inzamam has scored a pathetic Chris Martin-esque no runs in this time period. Therefore I am forced to conclude that Saeed Ajmal is a far superior batsman to Inzamam.
 
In the past 12 months Saeed Ajmal has scored one fifty and averages 12. Inzamam has scored a pathetic Chris Martin-esque no runs in this time period. Therefore I am forced to conclude that Saeed Ajmal is a far superior batsman to Inzamam.

Very funny:yk.
 
I think you have a short memory. Anwar was a way better batsman in the 90s than Inzi, and they faced the same bowling attack. Plus, Anwar faced the new ball, whereas Inzi batted lower down the order.

Anwar went through emotional trauma due to his daugher's death and missed out about 2-3 years of his prime.

After that, he was unjustly dropped, despite being our best bat in the '03 WC.

Anwar was a better batsman than Inzi, and rated especially highly by top class teams, such as Aus.

Saeed bhai is big player for team - but I thinks that I score more runs and better average :inzi

Mate - I agree that Saeed was brilliant and did well against Aus (cos he likes bounce), but overall Inzi was WAY better. Also see what Ajit says above as I agree.

Salman Butt (who also likes bounce) has an excellent record against Australia too.
 
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I would like to differ.. Anwar was the best pak batsman in the ODIs and their biggest match winner ever in ODIs, that can be clearly demonstrated by his match winnings knocks and the number of man of the match awards.

But in test it is inzi all the way. Look at the number of centuries in winnings cause (17) to that of 8 by anwar. Look at his average anwar was good but never as good as inzi in test matches. Inzi has 9 man of the match awards and how many YK has? He is the biggest match winner for Pak in tests after wasim akram and imran khan..

Some highlight his performance against banladesh, but if not for his class knock pak would have lost to bangladesh.

Anwar was never compared with the likes of Sachin and Lara in test matches. but there was a phase when Inzi and Steve waugh joined Sacin and Lara in that elite group as the best test batsmen of the world.

YK can be compared to MoYo (i would rate MoYo higher), and the modern breed of batsman like Sanga, Jayawardene and sehwag and can be ranked.. but never with Inzi.

In otherwords, for most part of his career, Inzi's wicket was the most prized wicket for any team that played Pak.. but YK can never claim that.. until Inzi was there, he was the most important wicket and when he quit MoYo became the most important wicket.

The one and the biggest thing thats stands against Inzi is his record overseas in SA and Australia against the best, where he did not score even one of his match winning centuries, infact struggled most of the times.

YK did well in SA and Australia in whatever limited opportunities he got and batted at the crucial number 3 position. Thats where YK excels over Inzi.
 
YK did well in SA and Australia in whatever limited opportunities he got and batted at the crucial number 3 position. Thats where YK excels over Inzi.

Exactly - he excels over Inzi in certain deptartments. Overall Inzy is/was better.
 
agree mate:)

Inzi is no match for Younis ...

Inzi is way better he won us a lot of matches..

I used to think that MY was better than YK.

I am starting to change my mind - is there a MY vs YK thread?

Also is there a Inzi vs Miandad thread?
 
The one and the biggest thing thats stands against Inzi is his record overseas in SA and Australia against the best, where he did not score even one of his match winning centuries, infact struggled most of the times.

YK did well in SA and Australia in whatever limited opportunities he got and batted at the crucial number 3 position. Thats where YK excels over Inzi.

In one of my previous replies in other thread I admitted that I had a misconception about YK and his overseas record. He has done reasonably well.

Mere average is never the yardstick of performance. Inzi has scored a century and 3 half centuries against Australia. if you take away the last series he played in australia he has always preformed decently.

In South Africa, one of Pak biggest ever victory came because of Inzi.. who played at 6 or 7 down.. i don't remember.. and added lot of runs for the last wicket. Record books will say that Inzi did not score a century.. but his 90 odd was responsible for one of the biggest ever win by Pak.

Not only this, Inzi is know for his match winning ability. The first time I watched Pak play a test match was back in 94. I don't remember if it is karachi or rawalpindi.. Inzi played an out of the world knock to take Pak for a victory against Aus. Shane was running through the tail with a 5 wicket haul and he added 60 runs for the last wicket to win the match for Pak. I became a fan of him from then on. There are numerous such master pieces by Inzi... He to me is the best batsman pak ever produced in the modern era ahead of Miandad..

A test batsman should be judged by the number of meaningful knocks (may be in victory or defeat) he plays.. and with 17 centuries in victories and numerous match winning 50s for Pak.. there is no match for Inzi..

I would rate him even ahead of Ponting... because ponting hardly won matches single handedly.. which inzi did quite often... it is the solos that make a batsman great.. and that is exactly the reason why Inzi and Steve for a short duration was put on the same league as Sachin and Lara.
 
Have to go with Inzi, While he was in the team he was the most important batsmen in the side and a real match winner!
 
In another thread dicussing Inzi,s legacy some posters brought YK into it.As I promised here is a thread to discuss them head to head in test cricket.

Overall test record.

Inzi. 120 200 22 8830 329 49.60 16345 54.02 25 46

YK. 63 112 7 5260 313 50.09 9789 53.73 16 21

Test Record against individual teams.

Inzamam-ul-Haq

Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50

Australia 14 27 2 785 118 31.40 1 6 9

Bangladesh 6 8 3 404 138* 80.80 2 0

England 19 32 3 1584 148 54.62 5 10

India 10 17 1 833 184 52.06 3 4

New Zealand 12 19 3 1059 329 66.18 3 4

South Africa 13 23 1 710 96 32.27 0 6

Sri Lanka 20 31 5 1559 200* 59.96 5 7

West Indies 15 24 3 1124 177 53.52 4 5

Zimbabwe 11 19 1 772 112 42.88 2 4


Younis Khan

Australia 6 12 0 382 87 31.83 0 3

Bangladesh 3 4 0 153 119 38.25 1 0

England 7 13 0 591 173 45.46 1 3

India 9 17 2 1321 267 88.06 5 4

New Zealand 4 6 1 307 149* 61.40 1 1

South Africa 7 14 1 570 130 43.84 2 2

Sri Lanka 15 24 2 1135 313 51.59 4 3

West Indies 10 19 1 701 153 38.94 2 4

Zimbabwe 2 3 0 100 52 33.33 0 1

Test record in Aus-SA-NZ-Eng.

Inzi.
38 68 6 2504 148 40.38 5 15


YK.
16 30 2 1314 173 46.92 2 7


Test record minus Zim-BD.

Inzi.
103 173 18 7654 329 49.38 21 42

YK.
58 105 7 5007 313 51.09 15 20

Test record in all countries.

Inzi.

in Australia 8 16 0 494 118 30.87 1 3

in Bangladesh 3 3 1 273 200* 136.50 1 0

in England 13 22 2 850 148 42.50 2 5 2

in India 5 10 1 494 184 54.88 1 3

in New Zealand 9 15 3 715 135* 59.58 2 4

in Pakistan 49 79 10 3709 329 53.75 11 20

in South Africa 8 15 1 445 95 31.78 0 3

in Sri Lanka 9 12 3 528 112 58.66 2 2

in U.A.E. 2 4 0 100 48 25.00 0 0

in West Indies 7 12 1 634 135 57.63 3 3

in Zimbabwe 7 12 0 588 112 49.00 1 2

YK.

in Australia 2 3 6 0 259 87 43.16 0 1

in Bangladesh 2 2 0 119 119 59.50 1 0 1

in England 5 9 0 470 173 52.22 1 3

in India 6 12 2 768 267 76.80 3 2

in New Zealand 3 5 1 280 149* 70.00 1 1

in Pakistan 19 33 1 1898 313 59.31 7 5

in South Africa 5 10 1 305 68 33.88 0 2

in Sri Lanka 9 15 2 527 116 40.53 1 4

in U.A.E. 4 8 0 323 153 40.37 1 2

in West Indies 5 9 0 211 106 23.44 1 0

in Zimbabwe 2 3 0 100 52 33.33 0 1

i feel that inzi is better,,,,,,,, record is not every thing...... apart from record i feel that some innings makes player so special and inzi has played so many that type of innings,,:inzi the legend
 
useless comparision inzi is legend,,,,,,,, without younis pak team is better,,,,,,,,right now,,,his attitude is never looks like a profestional,,, the player is great when they perform while chasing,,,,,,,,,, any one tell how many time younis did well and won the game for pak while batting second,,,,if no answer than close this thread:jm
 
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Let's younis khan play another 57 tests and then let's see if he can maintain his average. I really doubt that.

You said 57 tests, he surpassed Inzi in less than 40 tests. You wanted to see if he can mainten his average, it actually climbed. He cleared all your doubts.
 
What nonsense SS. How many games YK won single handedly for Pak? And batting under pressure and with the tail mostly?

Younis batted under pressure with WK and tail in today's epic knock. How times change. [MENTION=1184]saeed-sohail[/MENTION]
 
Inzamam-ul-Haq versus Younis Khan

Both are Legends in Pakistan cricket but who do you think was better in Test Matches.

Younis Khan Avg 52
Inzimam Avg 50 (Pak Matches)

Inzimam ul haq has second best avg among batsman is matches won 78.16 where as younis has played some out of the world knocks for Pak team.

:shh
 
Inzamam for me. Was a better play of pace bowling. Looked much more comfortable against them. And was good against spin. Younis is a brilliant test player. But i would take Inzi.
 
Younis Khan was a spin great.

Nothing else to his legacy and skills apart from that. Very average as a human, team player, against pacers, swing, seam.

Miandad, Inzi, etc all far ahead.
 
Its close but Id say yk With better fitness than inzy he had the ability to go big when set He has more 100s, double hundreds and the fact that he has hundreds in all and against all major playing countries sets him apart
 
Younis Khan but one won't go wrong with Inzamam either.

Both far superior to Mohammad Yousuf though.
 
Inzamam was the most gifted batsman against sheer pace in his time and he played in the golden era of fast bowling. His average of 50 in that era would translate to about 57-58 in this era minimum. Anyone who saw both Inzi and Yoni bat know that it's not even a comparison Inzy was a player that belonged in another tier, with all due respect to Yoni.
 
Inzi always looked better at the crease. And he had a couple of extra gears in his batting which YK never had.

Stats aside, Inzi just had more pedigree than YK.
 
Younis Khan but one won't go wrong with Inzamam either.

Both far superior to Mohammad Yousuf though.

Mohammad Yousuf is arguably the greatest batting talent to ever emerge from Pakistan. Equally great in tests and one days. One of the most elegant strokeplayers ever.

There could be a case for Inzy but Yoni has nothing over Moyo.
 
YK had more grit. Then are 2 of the 4 genuinely great batsman Pk have produced. Miandad and Hanif are the others.
 
I'd go for YK.

He played a lot more innings higher up the order than Inzi. He achieved more and has better stats as a result.

If I had to choose one of those two batsmen in a tough situation, say like on a tour of Aus, I would choose YK. Inzi crumbled too often in Aus.
 
YK because Inzi failed against Australia and SA, the 2 premiere bowling attacks at that time apart from Pakistan.
 
When you take ODIs into account, Inzi wins by a mile.
 
Mohammad Yousuf is arguably the greatest batting talent to ever emerge from Pakistan. Equally great in tests and one days. One of the most elegant strokeplayers ever.

There could be a case for Inzy but Yoni has nothing over Moyo.

Who cares about talent? AB is arguably the greatest talent of all-time but he is nowhere near the top 25 cricketers of all-time.

When the push comes under shove , I am gonna pick the legendary Khan over Yousuf in tests by quite a distance. Yousuf failed in Aus, SA, India and Sri Lanka. That is as many as 4 countries. The distance in tests in good enough that we shouldn't talk about ODIs.

Simple comparison: -

Inzy and Younis are Pakistan greats or borderline ATGs in tests while Yousuf is just a very good test player.

Inzy takes the cake over Younis due to his ODI exploits but Moyo doesn't.
 
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Inzamam was a fantastic batsman and one of the greats but I would definitely not pick him over Younis Khan in my test team. Khan is an ATG test batsman, Pakistan's second after Miandad.

Inzamam over Younis in ODIs obviously
 
Who cares about talent? AB is arguably the greatest talent of all-time but he is nowhere near the top 25 cricketers of all-time.

When the push comes under shove , I am gonna pick the legendary Khan over Yousuf in tests by quite a distance. Yousuf failed in Aus, SA, India and Sri Lanka. That is as many as 4 countries. The distance in tests in good enough that we shouldn't talk about ODIs.

Simple comparison: -

Inzy and Younis are Pakistan greats or borderline ATGs in tests while Yousuf is just a very good test player.

Inzy takes the cake over Younis due to his ODI exploits but Moyo doesn't.

You're selling Yousuf short. At his best, he was better than a whole host of great batsmen and he is definitely a great.
 
Who cares about talent? AB is arguably the greatest talent of all-time but he is nowhere near the top 25 cricketers of all-time.

ABD is not the greatest batting talent of all time. Not even South African.

When the push comes under shove , I am gonna pick the legendary Khan over Yousuf in tests by quite a distance. Yousuf failed in Aus, SA, India and Sri Lanka. That is as many as 4 countries. The distance in tests in good enough that we shouldn't talk about ODIs.

Yousuf didn't play much in the era of depleted bowling attacks and ultra flat pitches. At his peak he played 1 year on pure batting paradises and he made it count royally. He made more runs that year than anyone has ever done. As a test batsman Yousuf would be averaging 58 in modern day Cricket.



Inzy and Younis are Pakistan greats or borderline ATGs in tests while Yousuf is just a very good test player.

Inzy takes the cake over Younis due to his ODI exploits but Moyo doesn't.

That is ignorance because if anything it is the ODI format that separated Yousuf from both Inzy and Yoni. Yousuf was a fluid run scorer in ODIs. Till this date Pakistan has not been able to find a replacement for Yousuf in their ODI middle order. Yoni was 3rd grade as an ODI player.
 
Younis Khan's mental strength and the ability to deliver when it matters is unmatchable and he is an absolutely a big big match player.

When the team was 0-1 behind in a series against a strong Indian side in India, Younis Khan stood up like a warrior in the final test and played one of his career best ever performance in Bangalore and helped his team draw a test series in India 1-1.

When the team was drawn 1-1 against Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka in 2015, he again delivered a legendary inning of 171* chasing down total of 380 with ease on 5th day pitch of Sri Lanka, which led to his team winning a test series in Sri Lanka.

Again, during 2016 tour to England, when Khan was on his last leg and struggling and dancing all the way through the series, he showed an unbelievable resilience and mental strength just when it mattered, and as a result went on to put a 218 which helped put his team to a position from where he not only went on to win his team a match but also went on to draw the series against an in-form Joe Root's England.

Not long ago, when Pakistan cricket was going nowhere and was at a position when they could have lost a test match to Zimbabwe and even a series to them, he stood up and delivered a back-to-wall 200, which helped Pakistan from losing a test series to Zimbabwe of all team.

He was the biggest reason why Pakistan never lost a test series to some very high quality teams in UAE(the likes of SA, Eng, Aus, SL and NZ).

Even when he was young and a junior member to the likes of Inzamam and Yousuf, he didn't mind doing the harder job of batting at 3 at times and still went on to become Pakistan's leading run scorer in Australia tour in 2004 while Yousuf who was at peak scored lesser runs than Khan in that series.

His 149 at Auckland, 111 at Capetown or his 178 at Headingley proves his ability in alien conditions as well. While he was a little susceptible against high quality pace, but he knew how to find ways to score runs even in those conditions and that's what makes Younis Khan a legend of the game as far as test cricket is concerned and hence only behind Miandad among Pakistan players in purist's game.

He didn't had the luxury of Wasim, Imran, Waqar or even Akhtar, but the way he carried the Pakistan team is stuff of greats and that puts him as at least the best test batsmen among all his contemporaries and second best ever from Pakistan.
 
ABD is not the greatest batting talent of all time. Not even South African.



Yousuf didn't play much in the era of depleted bowling attacks and ultra flat pitches. At his peak he played 1 year on pure batting paradises and he made it count royally. He made more runs that year than anyone has ever done. As a test batsman Yousuf would be averaging 58 in modern day Cricket.





That is ignorance because if anything it is the ODI format that separated Yousuf from both Inzy and Yoni. Yousuf was a fluid run scorer in ODIs. Till this date Pakistan has not been able to find a replacement for Yousuf in their ODI middle order. Yoni was 3rd grade as an ODI player.

What all I have said are half facts and half my unbiased opinion. If you can't understand, I cant help. Most of the things you said are just opposite and absolute non-sense.

Yousuf averages 65 in Pakistan.You want to tell me the pitches weren't flat during his era. He actually played on some really ultra flat wickets.

You have no answer to my below fact: -

<B>Yousuf failed in Australia, SA, India and SL.</B>

No answer really?? These were some big teams and some top bowlers, even India in India. In contrast, see what Younis did in 2005 tour to India. It was the time when Sehwag was ripping apart Pakistan and India had a very strong side.

In ODIs, he was easy on eyes and a fluent player but clearly inferior to Abbas, Miandad, Inzamam and Anwar. That is another fact, not opinion.

The difference is big enough in tests that I don't need to go to ODI cricket. Tests get preference for me. Younis is a great or even borderline ATG in tests while Moyo is a very good test player, it ends here.
 
And yes, ABD is the greatest batting talent to have come from SA and arguably one of the greatest talent of all time. The versatility he possessed is absolutely never seen like.

The fact that when he bats normally, he is having a strike rate of 120, explains us the talent he had and the ease with which he scores his runs. The most complete batsmen of all-time. A shame he didn't had the hunger, passion and drive for game and also lacked the mental strength, which is why he decided to retire when he couldn't take it off.
 
Mohammad Yousuf is arguably the greatest batting talent to ever emerge from Pakistan. Equally great in tests and one days. One of the most elegant strokeplayers ever.

There could be a case for Inzy but Yoni has nothing over Moyo.

Younis wasn't a serial bottler like MoYo.

MoYo was out of this world for 12-18 months, he batted better than anybody I have ever seen during that period but over the course of his entire career Yousuf couldn't be relied upon to perform under pressure.
 
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