IPL | Bangalore vs Kings Punjab at Mohali -12/05/08

[Cryin Out Loud]

lol nah that was against Harmison. He threw the ball at Inzi and he jumped and was run-out.
Or maybe you're talking about when Inzi stopped the ball with his bat against India and was given out obstructing the field (WRONGLY!)

Yeah that was what I was talking about - the first example. Also remember the second one.

 

[jusarrived]

Dravid is my cricketing hero, but you cannot deny that his judgment and play here have been pretty bad.

And Misbahs' 2020 record is better than Dravids'.

judgement bad I agree , but conspiracy no !

dravid hasent played that many 2020's to say that he has a poor record compared to misbah !

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Back to the cricket- so far pretty slow post Kohli/ Misbah.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

judgement bad I agree , but conspiracy no !

dravid hasent played that many 2020's to say that he has a poor record compared to misbah !

Who suggested a conspiracy?

 

[Mohsin]

Ah yes i forgot about that guys, thanks. Shame though, he deserved that 100

 

[asifp]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jJcoc-UNrC8

There is the Misbah runout

 

[Mohsin]

BREAKING NEWS: Dravid hits a 4, i repeat Dravid has hit a 4!!

9.4 Chawla to Dravid, FOUR, fires in the quicker one which comes back in sharply, Dravid makes room, controls the cut and places it to deep backward point

74/3

Details are sketchy, so more to follow...

 

[jusarrived]

Who suggested a conspiracy?

there have been quite a few theroies going around here regarding why dravid has kept out the likes of misbah !

 

[asifp]

Bangalore packing up again.

 

[Mohsin]

Another one bites the dust. White gone to Chawla

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Gawwnnnnnnnnnn.

Bangalore in deep doodoo.

 

[WasimG]

BREAKING NEWS: Dravid hits a 4, i repeat Dravid has hit a 4!!

9.4 Chawla to Dravid, FOUR, fires in the quicker one which comes back in sharply, Dravid makes room, controls the cut and places it to deep backward point

74/3

Details are sketchy, so more to follow...

)

 

[Legendary_Sage]

another bad day for dravid at office..i mean cricket ground.

 

[SameerM]

Misbah's confidence/form levels are low..only reasonable excuse i can think of!

 

[SameerM]

there have been quite a few theroies going around here regarding why dravid has kept out the likes of misbah !

main reason as Mallya explained was, since Misbah was bought in by him, and Not Dravid... Dravid apparently CHOSE the whole team except 1.

 

[Legendary_Sage]

the team owner said that he pushed dravid to buy misbah... dravid was against the inclusion of misbah.

 

[161]

shocking stuff about dravid from the bangalore team owner ... he is every bit as clueless as our very own kuptaan.

 

[Dhonifan]

91/4 after 13 RR 7
Pretty good so far. They can hope to reach 160

 

[Mohsin]

Dravid's on fire today, i mean a strike-rate of 100! 23 off 23!

 

[Legendary_Sage]

The team owner said that he had his own list of players but dravid was not agree on buying them.but on matter of misbah he forced dravid to buy him.He named another person whom he has fired from the team management and blamed that dravid and that guy spoiled every thing.

 

[jusarrived]

yeah 160 shud be the target... with steyn , zaheer , kumble & praveen kumar we will be in with a chance !

 

[161]

meh ... just noticed there are 3 kumars in the bangalore side ... must be a popular name in that part of india.

 

[Mohsin]

BREAKING NEWS: Dravid hits another 4, i repeat Dravid has hit another 4!!

Signs of judgement day people!!!

 

[Sparhawk]

They got from nearly 10/over to under 7/over. They better climb back up to 9/over now.

 

[jusarrived]

Dravid's on fire today, i mean a strike-rate of 100! 23 off 23!

dude , his SR of the whole tournament is around 115 .... !

 

[Iqbal'sh]

the team owner said that he pushed dravid to buy misbah... dravid was against the inclusion of misbah.

Dravid was not present at the 2nd auction, Mallya pressed Charu Sharma to come up with some decent T20 signings, Charu stalled, Mallya wanted Misbah to play for his team from the beginning so bought him at the 2nd auction.

 

[WasimG]

Toofaan Dravid still in? And now has 2 boundaries to show! Bravo Dravid Bravo

 

[jusarrived]

meh ... just noticed there are 3 kumars in the bangalore side ... must be a popular name in that part of india.

actually it is , kumar is a common surname in karnataka !

 

[drkilljoy]

Rahul The Bore thankfully gone.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Dravid gawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn

 

[Legendary_Sage]

Dravid was not present at the 2nd auction, Mallya pressed Charu Sharma to come up with some decent T20 signings, Charu stalled, Mallya wanted Misbah to play for his team from the beginning so bought him at the 2nd auction.

Yes he mentioned that only misbah is the player who is picked on his choice.charu and dravid were reluctant to buy the players of his choice.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

actually it is , kumar is a common surname in karnataka !

In fact common in many parts of the country. Like 'Khan' would be in Pakistan I'm guessing.

 

[Mohsin]

Predict some good hitting from Praveen today...

 

[WasimG]

Without the boring captain giving boring instructions, Boucher must unleash the beast within now.

 

[jusarrived]

In fact common in many parts of the country. Like 'Khan' would be in Pakistan I'm guessing.

yeah , but more so in south !

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

BTW guys, do not assume Mallya (the owner) to be some prescient, savvy character. He is a skunk and I would not believe a single word he says.

 

[Mohsin]

Boucher turning on the heat, 6,4,4 to end the over 118/5

 

[WasimG]

Without the boring captain giving boring instructions, Boucher must unleash the beast within now.

Just as I predicted...... Boucher on fire

 

[Legendary_Sage]

BTW guys, do not assume Mallya (the owner) to be some prescient, savvy character. He is a skunk and I would not believe a single word he says.

If he is not the owner then how can he throw charu out and bring another person?
why r u so much against him. i mean any reason for not trusting the guy.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Without the boring captain giving boring instructions, Boucher must unleash the beast within now.

Boucher swallowed Afridi yesterday?

 

[Legendary_Sage]

Boucher swallowed Afridi yesterday?

dont offend DM

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

If he is not the owner then how can he throw charu out and bring another person?.

reread what i said. I never said he is not the owner.

why r u so much against him. i mean any reason for not trusting the guy.

Because as a former journalist I have had plenty of interactions with, and insight into, his thinking. Over a decade. Of course this is FWIW and a personal opinion.

He is a flashy, used to be loveryboy, barely capable businessman who had a great family legacy. He's intelligent alright, but he talks too much. And he runs his business like a family shop.

Having said that, he may be completely right about this controversy. I would just take whatever he says with a pinch of salt.

 

[Mohsin]

Kumar bowled by Sreesanth. 123/6

 

[Legendary_Sage]

reread what i said. I never said he is not the owner.



Because as a former journalist I have had plenty of interactions with, and insight into, his thinking. Over a decade. Of course this is FWIW and a personal opinion.

He is a flashy, used to be loveryboy, barely capable businessman who had a great family legacy. He's intelligent alright, but he talks too much. And he runs his business like a family shop.

Having said that, he may be completely right about this controversy. I would just take whatever he says with a pinch of salt.

my mistake bro...misread ur post.. and thnx 4 ur opinion about the guy.nice to know u were a journalist.. u must a have meet many celebrities in different fields of life..

 

[Dhonifan]

Chak de Punjab!

This team is looking too vibrant now, and so well bonded

 

[Legendary_Sage]

cricinfo stated that sree cry baby is reverse swinging... is it really true?

 

[asifp]

Prasad telling Misbah, oo pajee, tuu ke kar aya

 

[Legendary_Sage]

Chak de Punjab!

This team is looking too vibrant now, and so well bonded

pretty bond them together with hugs...

 

[Dhonifan]

I wonder what Mallya will do for next IPL?

Misbah his favorite will stay for sure, but will Dravid retain his place? I think not. Kumble will be out too. Watch out for a total revamp of the team.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Another one gawwwwwwwwwwn.

Bangalore are pretty carp.

 

[Dhonifan]

pretty bond them together with hugs...

aha, so thats what Mallya needed to do..

 

[jusarrived]

BTW guys, do not assume Mallya (the owner) to be some prescient, savvy character. He is a skunk and I would not believe a single word he says.

actually I wudnt beleive the media ..mallya is not the types who wud let such things out to the media even if we assume he has differences with dravid !

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Boucher must be getting tired of this....

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

aha, so thats what Mallya needed to do..

Maybe he tried to do that himself, and that was the reason team morale fell apart?

 

[Dhonifan]

actually I wudnt beleive the media ..mallya is not the types who wud let such things out to the media even if we assume he has differences with dravid !

He was talking to NDTV live yesterday. He said it all, u could see he was pissed like anything

 

[161]

The team owner said that he had his own list of players but dravid was not agree on buying them.but on matter of misbah he forced dravid to buy him.He named another person whom he has fired from the team management and blamed that dravid and that guy spoiled every thing.

so the question is .. does he have the guts to sack his own captain ?

with 100+ million on the line ... i'd be a bit worried if i was dravid.

 

[jusarrived]

He was talking to NDTV live yesterday. He said it all, u could see he was pissed like anything

oh then its bye bye dravid i gues & a lot of other current B'lore players !

 

[jusarrived]

144 to win ...steyn n zaheer need to get some early wickets for us !

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

so the question is .. does he have the guts to sack his own captain ?

with 100+ million on the line ... i'd be a bit worried if i was dravid.

Doubt if he will sack Dravid. There's going to be changes soon enough, though. Like in next years' line up.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Having said that, he may be completely right about this controversy. I would just take whatever he says with a pinch of salt.

BTW guys, do not assume Mallya (the owner) to be some prescient, savvy character. He is a skunk and I would not believe a single word he says.

Make your mind up for pity's sake. You must be the first journo (ex -journo I meant) that sits on the fence!!!!

btw Mallya's version does stack up pretty much:

He had a list of players he wanted to buy, but he let Dravid and Charu (less involved than Dravid) attend the 1st auction as he felt he did not have the requisite cricket expertise.
After the auction his mates told him he had a squad ideally suited to test cricket, Dravid maintained if an individual is good enough to play test cricket then they can adapt to the T20 version.
After the poor start, Dravid blamed the bad training facilities and other poor off field arrangements for the teams pathetic showing. Mallya got rid of Charu and got B. Patel who is familiar with Bangalore CA.
So he's basically giving Dravid enough rope to hang himself as even a school boy knows the squad is not upto it and Dravid is wholly responsible for that.

btw what were your interactions with Mallya as a journo? Care to share the incidents which form your hardcore opinion?

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Make your mind up for pity's sake. You must be the first journo (ex -journo I meant) that sits on the fence!!!!

I do not think what I have said is contradictory. But I could have phrased it better. Which is: Mallya is a skunk. I would not believe anything he says without independent corroboration (which is Dravid/ Sharma's POV in this case). In this case Mallya may be correct, but I would still wait and see.

btw Mallya's version does stack up pretty much:

It does, so far. But, as I said, I'll believe it when I hear what Sharma/ Dravid have to say. Not before.

So he's basically giving Dravid enough rope to hang himself...

That I agree with totally.

btw what were your interactions with Mallya as a journo? Care to share the incidents which form your hardcore opinion?

I wouldn't care to give specific incidents because they put me in a small sample set of identifiable people. But I am confident enough that my opinion is shared by other journos - the man's behaviour, management style, history.

As I said before, take it for what it is worth, which is a personal opinion given by some random stranger over the internet.

 

[drkilljoy]

Dravid is trying to bowl to a draw. His team needs wicket and he took of Steyn after 1 over.

 

[Sparhawk]

Dravid is trying to bowl to a draw. His team needs wicket and he took of Steyn after 1 over.

First laxman now dravid. Dumbness galore!

 

[Ghoshtbuster]

I just looked at the scorecard for the first time today. And guess what sticks out like a sore thumb:

SR: 262.5

I thought Dravid was playing for draws, looks like Misbah will be punished for not playing according to plan.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

The Bangalores have torpedoed.

 

[WasimG]

DRAWid should be sacked right now in the middle of this over.

 

[Dhonifan]

This match is no fun. One of our finest batsmen ever is getting humiliated. Wish he'd retire for the rest of the tourney and just concentrate on test cricket. Why risk losing even more form than he has already??

 

[12thMan]

Since Misbah got out the thread has died a bit and not really following the match. Only thing left to save this match thread is two exceptional catches and a runout by Mizbi

 

[Milroastnescafe]

Marsh, what a player.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

I think - pure conjecture- that Dravid may resign, or need to resign, pretty soon.

 

[Milroastnescafe]

Steyn, Kumble, Khan, Kumar; He's demolished them all.

 

[WasimG]

The only wicket taker Vinay Kumar (2-0-11-1) has not even been given his full bowling quota. Kumble's not taken a single wicket all tourney but Dravid has to take care of his friends first. Praveen Kumar also had only 12 runs off his first 2 but Dravid opted for others until only 3 runs were needed.

 

[161]

dravid like malik ... nice guy but not kuptaan material.

bcci realized their mistake and corrected it ..

can bakwaas ashraf do the same ?

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Mallya is a skunk. I would not believe anything he says without independent corroboration (which is Dravid/ Sharma's POV in this case).

That's not independent corroboration mate that's the story from the other side.

I wouldn't care to give specific incidents because they put me in a small sample set of identifiable people. But I am confident enough that my opinion is shared by other journos - the man's behaviour, management style, history.

I didn't want you to put your neck on the line, I was thinking also about the opinions that are shared by your other journo comrades. Any snippets from these guys?

 

[OZGOD]

Hmm, so the Bangalore Royal Chumps crash to another humiliating defeat. Mallya must be furious! This can't be doing his brand association any good - I don't think this is the type of brand resonance he had in mind when he named his team lol.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

That's not independent corroboration mate that's the story from the other side.

Not really. Sharma has said a few things, but I'll wait until he says more. Dravid hasn't said a thing so far.

I didn't want you to put your neck on the line, I was thinking also about the opinions that are shared by your other journo comrades. Any snippets from these guys?

How about this one; he was known as the 'British Japan before breakfast man'.

I don't mean 'British Japan', of course. Just the acronym.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Not really. Sharma has said a few things, but I'll wait until he says more. Dravid hasn't said a thing so far.

Sharma has been sacked by Mallya so how can he how an independent (ie impartial) opinion? Anyway he has pretty much laid the blame at Dravid's door stating it was not his team selection (Charu's) so he could not accept responsibility for the poor showing.

How about this one; he was known as the 'British Japan before breakfast man'.

I don't mean 'British Japan', of course. Just the acronym.

As long as it was behind closed doors who cares? Good to get some exercise in before breakfast anyway.

 

[Dhonifan]

Hmm, so the Bangalore Royal Chumps crash to another humiliating defeat. Mallya must be furious! This can't be doing his brand association any good - I don't think this is the type of brand resonance he had in mind when he named his team lol.

what better brand resonance than to have a team that proves alcohol and cricket do not mix

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Sharma has been sacked by Mallya so how can he how an independent (ie impartial) opinion? Anyway he has pretty much laid the blame at Dravid's door stating it was not his team selection (Charu's) so he could not accept responsibility for the poor showing.

I'm not arguing. I'm saying I will wait before making up my mind. Mallya's track record is suspect to me. That is it. Don't care to debate it at this time.

As long as it was behind closed doors who cares? Good to get some exercise in before breakfast anyway.

You wanted an anecdote, you got one.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

I'm not arguing. I'm saying I will wait before making up my mind. Mallya's track record is suspect to me. That is it. Don't care to debate it at this time.

I'm just surprised you call that an independent corroboration. Is that what you call it in professional circles? I'm confused.