IPL | Kolkata Knight Riders v Delhi Daredevils | Kolkata | 13/05/2008

[Monsee]

No no Monsee! I really think zardari has a chance to get his hands on that Nobel Peace Prize this year!

HaHaHa...

Man, some of these fans are so blinded by their love for Actor...they cannot see the context in a post, even if their life depended on it

 

[Sparhawk]

No no Monsee! I really think zardari has a chance to get his hands on that Nobel Peace Prize this year!

So what was the level of sarcasm in your post, did you actually mean you expected shoaib to perform well?

 

[Crusader]

You understand what 'Sarcasm' is...look it up as Mohsin_Pak786 is clearly using that

Haha, I know you will call it sarcasm, bla bla bla, when you have nothing else to back you up

 

[Monsee]

Haha, I know you will call it sarcasm, bla bla bla, when you have nothing else to back you up

No no Monsee! I really think zardari has a chance to get his hands on that Nobel Peace Prize this year!

Yeah, I think he was serious and you can clearly see that above ^^^

 

[Crusader]

Yeah, I think he was serious and you can clearly see that above ^^^

Just tell me will you eat the pie or not Its free dear

 

[W63L35]

Just tell me will you eat the pie or not Its free dear

You still have not showed the post/s that you said, were too many?

 

[Monsee]

Just tell me will you eat the pie or not Its free dear

Are U even sure that you can really differentiate 'Humble Pies' from 'Made Up Pies', especially considering your failure to see the 'Seriousness' in Mohsin_Pak786's post

 

[W63L35]

Are U even sure that you can really differentiate 'Humble Pies' from 'Made Up Pies', especially considering your failure to see the 'Seriousness' in Mohsin_Pak786's post

Monsee, I think.... poster asking you eat a humble pie, have not read your sig at all - intentionally or unintentionally;

I don't accept Shoaib's apology on the face value...I would like to see him try harder; he better show up in the next game he plays for Pak with 20-30 pounds less on his stupid frame and make sure he does not hide, Ever Again, in the 2nd innings of a Test Match when the team needs him.

That you DO wanted him to play/perform and this what he has done!

 

[Monsee]

Monsee, I think.... poster asking you eat a humble pie, have not read your sig at all - intentionally or unintentionally;



That you DO wanted him to play/perform and this what he has done!

Yeah, but did he lose that 20 pounds I asked for

Maybe those pies have already been eaten by Mr. Actor and they are not even there any more

 

[Crusader]

You still have not showed the post/s that you said, were too many?

Let me enjoy the moment now ,will do that when I get bored

 

[Crusader]

Yeah, but did he lose that 20 pounds I asked for

Maybe those pies have already been eaten by Mr. Actor and they are not even there any more

There is still enough left for you if you are humble enuf to eat them

 

[Monsee]

Crusader, the joke is getting lame now...find us the 'many Posts' from PP or just stop it

 

[Saj]

Just tell me will you eat the pie or not Its free dear

Another one who is jumping around like an excited schoolkid and like SRK, just because Akhtar picked up a few wickets in a T20 match.

If this was a big international test match or ODI, I could understand your excitement, but for this, you shuld be embarassed.

 

[Farhad]

Crusader, the joke is getting lame now...find us the 'many Posts' from PP or just stop it

So how are you feeling now, Monsee? It's happened yet again to you! )

Another one who is jumping around like an excited schoolkid and like SRK, just because Akhtar picked up a few wickets in a T20 match.

Saj, this was not an ordinary match or an exhibition match - a very high-profile match which Ganguly called as "one of the best of his career"! That should tell you how important was this match to the Kolkatans and to other Indians.

And that spell was truly awesome and breathtaking.

 

[Saj]

Saj, this was not an ordinary match or an exhibition match - a very high-profile match which Ganguly called as "one of the best of his career"! That should tell you how important was this match to the Kolkatans and to other Indians.

Farhad, the match may have been important to you, Ganguly, Kolkatans and some other Indians, but what was more important to me and no doubt most other Pakistanis are all the matches that he has missed for one reason or another. Those 50 plus test matches that he has missed during his career - they were more important to me.

 

[Crusader]

Another one who is jumping around like an excited schoolkid and like SRK, just because Akhtar picked up a few wickets in a T20 match.

If this was a big international test match or ODI, I could understand your excitement, but for this, you shuld be embarassed.

Jumping surely, why not mate? I suggest you also dont hold back the excitement and start jumping

You should be embarassed that you never handled a match winner well. I wish there was better captain like Imran or Wasim. BTW Shoaib Akhtar is not famous for his T20 performance I bet, infact this was his first after a loooooooooong time

 

[Saj]

Jumping surely, why not mate? I suggest you also dont hold back the excitement and start jumping

You should be embarassed that you never handled a match winner well. I wish there was better captain like Imran or Wasim. BTW Shoaib Akhtar is not famous for his T20 performance I bet, infact this was his first after a loooooooooong time

If it was an important match for Pakistan I'd be jumping like you are today, but it wasnt an important match for Pakistan. I enjoyed his bowling, thought he bowled really well and its great to see him playing again.

Your point about me personally being embarassed for not handling him better - nothing to do with me, I only met him once and we were both fine, we handled each other very well The point is he should have handled HIMSELF better throughout his career. Its always easy to blame someone else isnt it !

 

[Crusader]

Crusader, the joke is getting lame now...find us the 'many Posts' from PP or just stop it

Sorry mate, probably I was a bit over excited to see Shoaib bowl like that even after what he has gone thru past couple of months. Shows a bucket full of character. Anyway cooling off now

 

[Crusader]

Your point about me personally being embarassed for not handling him better - nothing to do with me, I only met him once and we were both fine, we handled each other very well The pint is he should have handled HIMSELF better throughout his career. Its always easy to blame someone else isnt it !

Oops it was not meant for you Ok lets stop the blame game and give credit where it is due.

 

[W63L35]

Yeah, but did he lose that 20 pounds I asked for

....why do you think, he was limping after 3rd over?

 

[Sparhawk]

....why do you think, he was limping after 3rd over?

W63L35, your sig seems a bit pessimistic. Here you have an electric live performance by the Rawalpindi express, and rather than enjoying it you are regretting that he didn't give us more of these. Join us in celebration.

 

[Crusader]

And Sehwag says:

Sehwag said it was the best Twenty20 spell he had ever seen but denied that Delhi's batsmen fell to Shoaib's pace." We are used to pace," Sehwag said. "We are all international players. I, Gautam and [Manoj] Tiwary. We batted too positively against Shoaib."

 

[jackal786]

And Sehwag says:

Sehwag said it was the best Twenty20 spell he had ever seen but denied that Delhi's batsmen fell to Shoaib's pace." We are used to pace," Sehwag said. "We are all international players. I, Gautam and [Manoj] Tiwary. We batted too positively against Shoaib."

Ofcourse they faced Brett Lee, Tait, Johnson and followed by Steyn. They infact faced Akhtar himself before going there.

 

[cars112]

Ofcourse they faced Brett Lee, Tait, Johnson and followed by Steyn. They infact faced Akhtar himself before going there.

Akhtar - when on song - is better than all of those bowlers, though. Lee, to be fair, is not a bad bowler, but he can't run through a team in the way Shoaib did today. My point is that facing those other bowlers would not have prepared Sehwag etc. for Shoaib. Shoaib is in a different class.

 

[jackal786]

Akhtar - when on song - is better than all of those bowlers, though. Lee, to be fair, is not a bad bowler, but he can't run through a team in the way Shoaib did today. My point is that facing those other bowlers would not have prepared Sehwag etc. for Shoaib. Shoaib is in a different class.

I remember Akhtar bowled 21 overs in a recent test could not pick up a single wicket . Let us see how many teams he runs through. Today they all played some shots and lost their wickets except Tiwary.

 

[W63L35]

W63L35, your sig seems a bit pessimistic. Here you have an electric live performance by the Rawalpindi express, and rather than enjoying it you are regretting that he didn't give us more of these.

Thats a neat twist to my sig!!!!

No, my sig was in response to all those posters who wanted "the haters" to eat humble pie. Just wanted to clarify the my reasons of being in "haters club"!

Join us in celebration.

Only to be hugely disappointed AGAIN sooner than I can blink my eyes!

Did I sound pessimistic again?

 

[cars112]

I remember Akhtar bowled 21 overs in a recent test could not pick up a single wicket . Let us see how many teams he runs through. Today they all played some shots and lost their wickets except Tiwary.

In his last Test he wasn't 100% fit. Go back a couple of Tests and look at what he did to the Indian batting line-up. If only he had more support.

As for your other point. Well of course batsmen will play shots in T20 cricket. The point is other bowlers don't have the skill to get as many wickets as Shoaib (apart from another Pakistani, Tanvir) did in three overs today even with batsmen playing those strokes.

 

[switchblade]

I remember Akhtar bowled 21 overs in a recent test could not pick up a single wicket . Let us see how many teams he runs through. Today they all played some shots and lost their wickets except Tiwary.

Tiwary clearly nicked it and still given lbw.. was wrong decision.

 

[jackal786]

In his last Test he wasn't 100% fit. Go back a couple of Tests and look at what he did to the Indian batting line-up. If only he had more support.

As for your other point. Well of course batsmen will play shots in T20 cricket. The point is other bowlers don't have the skill to get as many wickets as Shoaib (apart from another Pakistani, Tanvir) did in three overs today even with batsmen playing those strokes.

Whatever he did when Sehwag made 309, 254 or Dhoni made 148 and Pathan made 90?

 

[cars112]

Whatever he did when Sehwag made 309, 254 or Dhoni made 148 and Pathan made 90?

Those were achieved on the flattest of flat pitches. Besides, need I remind which side won the series in which the 254 and 148 were made?

 

[jackal786]

Those were achieved on the flattest of flat pitches. Besides, need I remind which side won the series in which the 254 and 148 were made?

So mr.actor can do well only on helpful surface? That series was won because of one Mr.Asif who picked the key wickets. Look at the average of Actor in that series.

 

[cars112]

So mr.actor can do well only on helpful surface? That series was won because of one Mr.Asif who picked the key wickets. Look at the average of Actor in that series.

Have you actually followed Shoaib's career? He has performed on ALL surfaces, be it in Australia or India or South Africa or New Zealand.

 

[12thMan]

Tiwary clearly nicked it and still given lbw.. was wrong decision.

Did the commentators make an issue of it and the edge shown repeatedly? If not then all is Okay. A big difference when clubs and international teams play and how they influence people when they do certain things, not just that people watching have more involvement. They need to remove these commentators and put locals in who actually support the team intead of supporting IPL.

I think it will take BCCI couple of years to get there and also when they take the showboats off the TV - includes commentators and TV people who want to show celeberty owners every chance they get (includes Modi). The local commentator will probably sneak in a remark on them too. Right now all they are selling is entertaintment

BTW: I hate most of the commentary in international matches too as they don't do commentary but give opinions. They are just analyst and experts who should really be talking between breaks (like between over or drinks). You cannot follow the match when listening to them as you have to watch it. Bring in the radio commentators with an expert on the side who only talks once every few minutes

 

[161]

who cares?
we wantsss blood!
we wantss skulls!

anything is worth seeing a cracked helmet, mate.

finally, IPL becomes watchable.


)
these wussy batsmen should be lined up on a half pitch, and bounced out of their skulls.

cmon shobby, one for the nose.

) ) )


lol man ... ur a legend

 

[161]

Shoaib is publicly, openly chucking and getting away

wow .. ur horrible .. his action looked just fine today.

go get a job with times of india since ur so good at making up stuff !

 

[161]

More he bowls like this, more upset I get.... because by missing >50% of his career matches, he DEPRIVED us (fans) of this sort of excitement!

???

"he" deprived us !?!?!?

no man ...

first the icc deprived us with the BS chucking allegations ..

then the meglomaniac monster inzi kept him out for a few years ..

and now the most arrogant fool of them all, naseem, is trying to end his career.

 

[161]

If it was an important match for Pakistan I'd be jumping like you are today, but it wasnt an important match for Pakistan. I enjoyed his bowling, thought he bowled really well and its great to see him playing again.

This was a hugely important match .. why .. because it showed once again that Shoaib can get rid of Pak killers like Sehwag and Ghambir ... and with us playing India a hell of a lot in the near future ... we need some sort of solution for those two batsmen.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

???

"he" deprived us !?!?!?

no man ...

first the icc deprived us with the BS chucking allegations ..

then the meglomaniac monster inzi kept him out for a few years ..

and now the most arrogant fool of them all, naseem, is trying to end his career.

So Inzi injured Shoaib? ) ) )

 

[161]

as predicted Shoaib was OUTSTANDING....ZERO RUST, ZERO DUST.

Once again Shoaib rubbishes the argument that he has to play domestics and some how "prove himself".


He did vs Australia, England, South Africa, India and now in the IPL.



Time after time ... he comes back and destroys the opposition ... he goes from zero to 100 in no time.

 

[161]

So Inzi injured Shoaib? ) ) )

u really think he was injured for all of inzi's tenure ?


come on now .. at least be honest with urself.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

u really think he was injured for all of inzi's tenure ?


come on now .. at least be honest with urself.

BUT he didnt miss all the games under Inzi's tenure

He played some, half games and missed games - he was dropped for some

Shoaib is undoubtedly a talented cricketer who has NOT done his talent justice - its easy to blame the likes of Inzi and the PCB for this BUT the truth is Shoaib has not helped himself

Even if we ignore his rubbish fitness, his off the field problems have caused problems

 

[Oxy]

^^Shhhhh...quiet up there.

I'm watching Shoaib's 4 wkt demolition job on Setanta.

1st game I ve watched so far.

His team mates seem very eager to kiss him during the celebrations....

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

That Shukla fella got 3-6

Not bad like

 

[Crusader]

So Inzi injured Shoaib? ) ) )

Inzi was the worst captain for Pak after the glorious years of Imran and Wasim. He did not injure Shoaib but gave the least amount of support to Shoaib which any captain would do. Inzi was particularly not happy with Shoaib being a little outgoing and enjoying parties. He wanted the whole PAK team to become devout all of a sudden although sport and devoutness are two separate things IMHO and should not have been mixed. BTW it is my opinion, not that you have to agree with me, I just wanted to give an example where Shoaib was not handled properly.

 

[Sultan Yusuf]

Inzi was the worst captain for Pak after the glorious years of Imran and Wasim. He did not injure Shoaib but gave the least amount of support to Shoaib which any captain would do. Inzi was particularly not happy with Shoaib being a little outgoing and enjoying parties. He wanted the whole PAK team to become devout all of a sudden although sport and devoutness are two separate things IMHO and should not have been mixed. BTW it is my opinion, not that you have to agree with me.

To be honest I don't think the conflict in lifestyle was the issue. Inzi was an insecure captain. He was very reluctant to take the blame. Shoaib with his antics was the perfect scapegoat. Both were to blame to an extent. Shoaib made himself an easy target, and inzi was only too willing to blame him when things went wrong.

However, a stronger leader would not have singled out shoaib. Shoaib was as much of a primadonna in the days of Wasim and Waqar too, but you didn't see either of them singling him out for the failures of the overall team.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Inzi was the worst captain for Pak after the glorious years of Imran and Wasim. He did not injure Shoaib but gave the least amount of support to Shoaib which any captain would do. Inzi was particularly not happy with Shoaib being a little outgoing and enjoying parties. He wanted the whole PAK team to become devout all of a sudden although sport and devoutness are two separate things IMHO and should not have been mixed. BTW it is my opinion, not that you have to agree with me, I just wanted to give an example where Shoaib was not handled properly.

AND i bloody well am not gonna agree with you

Look at the stats, Inzi was one of our best captains - he was MILES better than the likes Moin Khan, Latif, Waqar etc etc etc

Inzi was considering what Pak was going through a brilliant Captain

You can blame him for Shoaib's problems or you can actually give Shoaib the blame for his own problems, its the sensible thing to do

Shoaib had problems before Inzi was Captain and has had problems since - he has had problems in County cricket aswell

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

To be honest I don't think the conflict in lifestyle was the issue. Inzi was an insecure captain. He was very reluctant to take the blame. Shoaib with his antics was the perfect scapegoat. Both were to blame to an extent. Shoaib made himself an easy target, and inzi was only too willing to blame him when things went wrong.

However, a stronger leader would not have singled out shoaib. Shoaib was as much of a primadonna in the days of Wasim and Waqar too, but you didn't see either of them singling him out for the failures of the overall team.

Inzi tactically wasnt a great captain BUT he has a very good captain for us - he gave us much needed stability

AND he accepted blame for the WC shambles and i respect him for that - even tho other batsmen did F ALL aswell

 

[Idris Gogen]

Rawaplindi Express has lost its brakes and it is now consider a RUNAWAY TRAIN. Please watch out be careful and stay out of harms way. It may reach dangerous speed in excess of 80 miles an hour

 

[Crusader]

AND i bloody well am not gonna agree with you

Look at the stats, Inzi was one of our best captains - he was MILES better than the likes Moin Khan, Latif, Waqar etc etc etc

Inzi was considering what Pak was going through a brilliant Captain

You can blame him for Shoaib's problems or you can actually give Shoaib the blame for his own problems, its the sensible thing to do

Shoaib had problems before Inzi was Captain and has had problems since - he has had problems in County cricket aswell

And I bloody well disagree with you - A captain is NOT remembered for his own credentials but BECAUSE of the way he can get the BEST out of his players. Inzi was a bad, poor leader because he let Shoaib slip into controversies and never backed him up. And look at Ganguly - Even after Buchanan was against playing Shoaib, Ganguly fought against the coach, backed him up to the core and showed complete faith in him. Shoaib was poorly handled by PCB, their captain and supporters (haters ) like YOU who failed to see the match winner in HIM and blamed him for everything.

 

[Ghoshtbuster]

then the meglomaniac monster inzi kept him out for a few years.

No. He didnt.

 

[Ghoshtbuster]

Inzi was the worst captain for Pak after the glorious years of Imran and Wasim.

No. he wasnt.

 

[Ghoshtbuster]

Inzi was an insecure captain. He was very reluctant to take the blame.

He personally took the blame for the performance at the World Cup in West Indies.

So, no. He wasnt.

 

[Monsee]

And I bloody well disagree with you - A captain is NOT remembered for his own credentials but BECAUSE of the way he can get the BEST out of his players. Inzi was a bad, poor leader because he let Shoaib slip into controversies and never backed him up. And look at Ganguly - Even after Buchanan was against playing Shoaib, Ganguly fought against the coach, backed him up to the core and showed complete faith in him. Shoaib was poorly handled by PCB, their captain and supporters (haters ) like YOU who failed to see the match winner in HIM and blamed him for everything.

So Inzi's 20-30 odd tests and 100+ ODIs as captain can be considered a failure in terms of handling of Shoaib because of how Ganguly handled him in one mickey mouse masaala 20-20 game; now I have heard everything! )

Inzi let Shoaib slip in to controversies...are U nuts?

No one but Shoaib should get credit for that...you are being unfair to him!

Why is it that none of the Shoaib worshipers accept the fact that maybe Shoaib handled his talent,career, and life in general in a very poor manner...in fact he did such a poor job of handling himself that if one compares 'Bush's Handling of the Iraq War', Bush comes out as a winner

 

[W63L35]

Why is it that none of the Shoaib worshipers accept the fact that maybe Shoaib handled his talent,career, and life in general in a very poor manner...in fact he did such a poor job of handling himself that if one compares 'Bush's Handling of the Iraq War', Bush comes out as a winner

To handle yourself, you have to be mature. While babies and kids need "proper" handling by adults.

 

[jackal786]

To handle yourself, you have to be mature. While babies and kids need "proper" handling by adults.

Are you referring to Akhtar's lucky toy and how he was playing with it like a kid

 

[Monsee]

To handle yourself, you have to be mature. While babies and kids need "proper" handling by adults.

You forgot to mention: Keep the Anger Inside, stay Positive, and Set Long term Goals

 

[WasimG]

Shoaib is publicly, openly chucking and getting away

Watch this and shut the hell up about his chucking forever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_jhM_II_qw

In any case Shoaib is above the law. He singlehandedly satisfied all the people who were complaining that batsmen dominate too much in this tourney.