Is IPL getting boring and losing its charm?

[rpant_gabba]

Huh? IPl still happening? Thought it was dead in 2009 when Pak players choose not to participate.

 

[JaDed]

It’s fun for Indians, esp the ones born after 2000.. for ones before we see just to view upcoming talent.

 

[Josh]

Well it feels less Fresh but it's still enjoyable. One doesn't have to watch all the matches. Especially towards the end of the league, it gets super exciting

 

[Varun]

It's just a billboard for ads.

 

[BDfanforever]

Well it feels less Fresh but it's still enjoyable. One doesn't have to watch all the matches. Especially towards the end of the league, it gets super exciting

One doesn't have to watch any matches. You can just watch highlights on YouTube at fraction of the time. That is why I think sports in general are way overvalued.

 

[Josh]

One doesn't have to watch any matches. You can just watch highlights on YouTube at fraction of the time. That is why I think sports in general are way overvalued.

Well Sport is really about those ups and downs in real time ..mimicking our lives.. the momentum swings, the nervous stretches, the moments where nothing happens but everything feels like it might. That uncertainty is the most enjoyable part, isn't it? By the time highlight video rolls, the uncertainty is already gone.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Best IPL league in the world by far but the only thing that continues to pull it down and would never allow it to be somethign spectacular is the fact that all the international players are still mercenaries playing multiple leagues during the year.

IPL needs to start paying more and ask for exclusivity on talent.

 

[Hitman]

Unfortunately for the sore losers, IPL is an Indian league created for Indian fans. It's Indian fans who will decide whether it's boring or not. And we all know where IPL stands now after it's inception in 2008.

Remember, a cow doesn't die by the curse of a crow (an Indian saying).​

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Best IPL league in the world by far but the only thing that continues to pull it down and would never allow it to be somethign spectacular is the fact that all the international players are still mercenaries playing multiple leagues during the year.

IPL needs to start paying more and ask for exclusivity on talent.

I have read that the Aussie players have shown up half interested and unfit, unable to fulfil their contracted roles.

I hope PM Modi has taken notice.

 

[sithb]

Unfortunately for the sore losers, IPL is an Indian league created for Indian fans. It's Indian fans who will decide whether it's boring or not. And we all know where IPL stands now after it's inception in 2008.

Remember, a cow doesn't die by the curse of a crow (an Indian saying).​

Too much cricket being played now. The bcci will still thrive because IPL is the primetime revenue raiser.

The hits will come to the domestic leagues arranged worldwide. There's no captive audience for that unless bcci agrees to send indian cricketers to indian affiliated teams in the BBL/Hundred/SAt20

 

[BouncerGuy]

THREAD IS NOT ABOUT MODI AND SANGHI STUFF...

PLEASE

 

[sithb]

Best IPL league in the world by far but the only thing that continues to pull it down and would never allow it to be somethign spectacular is the fact that all the international players are still mercenaries playing multiple leagues during the year.

IPL needs to start paying more and ask for exclusivity on talent.

Think the time is fast coming when bcci decides to allow their T20 cricketers to participate in foreign leagues.

It probably will come quicker than we will expect.

The problem comes down to monetization, the only other comparable countries with a comparable fanbase are Pakistan and Bangladesh, they haven't monetized their tv rights enough.

 

[sithb]

For that to happen , there needs to be a huge paradigm shift on how the two countries view their economies. It's just not cricket at that point

 

[Bhaijaan]

THREAD IS NOT ABOUT MODI AND SANGHI STUFF...

PLEASE

My reply to Deadly bhai was genuine though.

Now that PM Modi has been excused by greater powers as India is not deemed important to be on the table for major heopolitical discussions, he has a lot of free time and can fully focus on IPL. This is for the betterment of Indian cricket and i am sure our Indian friends here can agree.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Watched maybe 10 games of IPL since it first started (2008?). This time I will only watch the final, if I remember it in time.

I’m general I can’t be bothered to watch club games. Obviously am of an older generation.

For all that I am proud of the IPL and give it my phull sapport saar for its amazing and mostly positive contribution to Indian cricket. It has in fact taken our cricket to a different, increasingly unmatchable level.

More power to the IPL.

 

[Hikaru]

My reply to Deadly bhai was genuine though.

Now that PM Modi has been excused by greater powers as India is not deemed important to be on the table for major heopolitical discussions, he has a lot of free time and can fully focus on IPL. This is for the betterment of Indian cricket and i am sure our Indian friends here can agree.

Firstly, congratulations on the global relevance. The ex-sons of ancient Bharat indeed have achieved this feat that makes us true borns hang our heads in shame. It's embarassing for us, but we respect the hustle.

However, to say that Modi Ji has a lot of free time is something only an ignorant Pakistani unaware of the man's superhuman work ethics can claim.

Just like Bouncer bhai, I too request you to keep Modi Ji out of it. Let Cricket be Cricket. Peace

 

[sweep_shot]

I think IPL became very garbage after 2014 (when many of the legendary players retired/declined --> Gilchrist, Ponting, Tendulkar, Kallis, Graeme Smith, Dilshan, Gayle, Sanga, Mahela, McCullum etc.).

The new guys can hit sixes but they are like robots. Zero personality.

Anyway, I have never liked T20, IPL, or any other T20 league. This is Mickey Mouse cricket. I only prefer Test and ODI.

 

[Hitman]

I think IPL became very garbage after 2014 (when many of the legendary players retired/declined --> Gilchrist, Ponting, Tendulkar, Kallis, Graeme Smith, Dilshan, Gayle, Sanga, Mahela, McCullum etc.).

The new guys can hit sixes but they are like robots. Zero personality.

Anyway, I have never liked T20, IPL, or any other T20 league. This is Mickey Mouse cricket. I only prefer Test and ODI.

Maybe they need to replicate what Fakhar Zaman did in the PSL recently to gain some personality.

 

[Cricfan8920]

As boring as winning back to back world cups

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

I have read that the Aussie players have shown up half interested and unfit, unable to fulfil their contracted roles.

I hope PM Modi has taken notice.

If you could share the source where you came across this irreplaceable invaluable nugget of ilm - along with empirical measurable quantifiable analytical evidences & proof - two objectives can be achieved

A) we can identify probably the first job in the world -which is played out in full public view, where the management is least/not at all bothered with return on investments

B) Australian board can use the same metrics to see & compare their players performance in the IPL with their performance in the BBL as well as international cricket. They will then encourage more of their domestic/u-19 players to take their 'paid vacation/honeymoon' in the IPL, lesser selection meetings & headaches for them & imagine the player pool they will be building.

 

[sweep_shot]

As boring as winning back to back world cups

Which World Cup?

Only real WCs are WTC and ODI WC.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

If you could share the source where you came across this irreplaceable invaluable nugget of ilm - along with empirical measurable quantifiable analytical evidences & proof - two objectives can be achieved

A) we can identify probably the first job in the world -which is played out in full public view, where the management is least/not at all bothered with return on investments

B) Australian board can use the same metrics to see & compare their players performance in the IPL with their performance in the BBL as well as international cricket. They will then encourage more of their domestic/u-19 players to take their 'paid vacation/honeymoon' in the IPL, lesser selection meetings & headaches for them & imagine the player pool they will be building.

Cooper Connolly and Cameron Green selected as all rounder have been informed by CA they are not to bowl.

Hazlewood unable to bowl.

Cummins likely injured.

Much of this furore has been reported in Indian media. Even one of the IPL captions questions the Australian board.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Cooper Connolly and Cameron Green selected as all rounder have been informed by CA they are not to bowl.

Hazlewood unable to bowl.

Cummins likely injured.

Much of this furore has been reported in Indian media. Even one of the IPL captions questions the Australian board.

So injuries cannot happen to anyone?
& By your reckoning if hazleewood cannot bowl - you think he will be selected in the first XI based on his batting abilities, bartting pedigree, talent, run making, shot making calibre?

The same for cummins?

& As per u Those facts dilutes the IPL because people who can't perform their primary job expertise / core competencies will still get a gig/game?
You think the IPL team owners, coaching staff , investors would be blind & not recognize if someone is 'rorting' the system....ie like indian sarkari employees of the 80's & 90's who got paid for putting their bscksides on a particular seat day in & out- no one questions their outputs & get time based promotions?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

 

[DeadlyVenom]

So injuries cannot happen to anyone?
& By your reckoning if hazleewood cannot bowl - you think he will be selected in the first XI based on his batting abilities, bartting pedigree, talent, run making, shot making calibre?

The same for cummins?

& As per u Those facts dilutes the IPL because people who can't perform their primary job expertise / core competencies will still get a gig/game?
You think the IPL team owners, coaching staff , investors would be blind & not recognize if someone is 'rorting' the system....ie like indian sarkari employees of the 80's & 90's who got paid for putting their bscksides on a particular seat day in & out- no one questions their outputs & get time based promotions?

I was replying to an Indian poster who mentioned that the foreign players are mercenary and the IPl owners should contract them for a full year and the post should be read in that context.

Anything around dilution etc is just your own understanding.

If CA has barred players such as green and Connolly from bowling then I do think it has caught owners by surprise. Again, I refer to the Indian captain who said Cameron Green lack of bowling should be asked to Cricket Australia and not him.

 

[gazza619]

Cricket has helpfully drained itself of suspense with batter‑friendly rules, tiny boundaries, and specially made Indian bats that might as well come with a warranty. A six now feels about as special as a warm‑up throw. Still, it’s clearly a wonderful era for the forum’s kiddos like @RyanRyan10 who can enjoy every match as a nonstop highlight reel.

 

[Local.Dada]

I’ve watched maybe 10 games of IPL since it started. Just couldn’t get into it.

But as an Indian fan I’m proud of what we built, appreciate its contribution to Indian cricket, and hope the IPL only gets stronger.

Still won’t watch it though.

I usually watch the season start and then zone out till the end when play off scenarios start.

Also I do keep a look out for young talents. If some young player shows up, I will tune in. Example- I will watch Suryavanshi or in the last seasons was tuning in for Mayank Yadav.

 

[finalfantasy7]

Even this current game - CSK vs PBKS is:

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg


its mainly due to thrs no contest between bat and ball, you cant tell if a fast bowler has actually bowled well

im falling asleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

 

[sweep_shot]

Even this current game - CSK vs PBKS is:

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg


its mainly due to thrs no contest between bat and ball, you cant tell if a fast bowler has actually bowled well

im falling asleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

They should just use bowling machines.

Why overwork bowlers like donkeys?

 

[finalfantasy7]

They should just use bowling machines.

Why overwork bowlers like donkeys?

spot on

honestly when a fast bowlers bowls, ball barely move more than a inch - that aint hard to hit for a boundary, especially when most pitches are around 65metres long = smaller than my secondary (high) school pitch = embarrasing

when you have indian players with physiques like Ajinkya Rahane - it makes you wonder, are the boundaries small for this reason


what do yu think:

@Rajdeep @cricketjoshila @Champ_Pal @Devadwal @uppercut

@straighttalk @Bhaijaan @Vikram1989 @Romali_rotti @Cover Drive Six @rickroll

@RexRex @rpant_gabba, @kron @globetrotter @Hitman @jnaveen1980 @Local.Dada @CrIc_Mystique

@Van_Sri @nish_mate @SportsWarrior @kaayal

@saimayubera @JaDed @Prince of Dorne @Cryin Out Loud @just a fan @deltexas

@Ramsay @Hikaru @Bhimja turtle @GoogleToggle @big_gamer007 @IndoorCricket @Hellion @Theanonymousone

 

[jnaveen1980]

spot on

honestly when a fast bowlers bowls, ball barely move more than a inch - that aint hard to hit for a boundary, especially when most pitches are around 65metres long = smaller than my secondary (high) school pitch = embarrasing

when you have indian players with physiques like Ajinkya Rahane - it makes you wonder, are the boundaries small for this reason


what do yu think:

@Rajdeep @cricketjoshila @Champ_Pal @Devadwal @uppercut

@straighttalk @Bhaijaan @Vikram1989 @Romali_rotti @Cover Drive Six @rickroll

@RexRex @rpant_gabba, @kron @globetrotter @Hitman @jnaveen1980 @Local.Dada @CrIc_Mystique

@Van_Sri @nish_mate @SportsWarrior @kaayal

@saimayubera @JaDed @Prince of Dorne @Cryin Out Loud @just a fan @deltexas

@Ramsay @Hikaru @Bhimja turtle @GoogleToggle @big_gamer007 @IndoorCricket @Hellion @Theanonymousone

I checked PSL boundary. i think woman's cricket matches have longer boundary lol Still you have saudh shakeel, Babar, rizwan, labu all playing. These guys won't feature even in 5th Indian T20 team lol

 

[sithb]

And how are the PSL pitches any better ?

 

[jnaveen1980]

And how are the PSL pitches any better ?

They are historically terrible. India on the other hand has the widest range of pitches. To make matter worse PSL plays matches on just two grounds. SO it is even worse. Ball hardly rises above the knee. All sloggers can enjoy this.

 

[finalfantasy7]

I checked PSL boundary. i think woman's cricket matches have longer boundary lol Still you have saudh shakeel, Babar, rizwan, labu all playing. These guys won't feature even in 5th Indian T20 team lol

yet again another indian who partly said SOME ACCURACIES, but then at the end of his opinion (fell apart) - can you please prove this

i dont rate babar / rizwan in t20's - never have = so your opinion then hurt yourself as you added the opposite thinking i was

try harder

 

[finalfantasy7]

They are historically terrible. India on the other hand has the widest range of pitches. To make matter worse PSL plays matches on just two grounds. SO it is even worse. Ball hardly rises above the knee. All sloggers can enjoy this.

yet no proof to back this - india has widest range of pitches = you mean your clubs literally have no money for a groundsman (hence bcci claims on its $$$ they generate + own are all lies) so team just play on it

2 if all sloggers can bat in Pakistan, why did australia fail soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo badly?



your as boring as the IPL, your making me fall asleep, im nodding off

 

[Savak]

Was reading somewhere that India's recent T-20 WC win was not really celebrated with that much fanfare or celebration in India in comparison to the 2011 ODI WC Win and T-20 2024 WC win. Even the Indians are getting bored of India's one sided dominance over the rest of the cricket world. Its time for the other countries to step up.

 

[Cric1234]

IPL is an Indian product made for only Indian fans to watch and comment on it...... The same Indians who troll and destroy PSL and Pakistan....... while fans from Pakistan should not be allowed to be critical of IPL.

 

[jnaveen1980]

yet again another indian who partly said SOME ACCURACIES, but then at the end of his opinion (fell apart) - can you please prove this

i dont rate babar / rizwan in t20's - never have = so your opinion then hurt yourself as you added the opposite thinking i was

try harder

That list is very very long lol let me make that clear. there is not a single pakistan player who would wlak into 2nd or 3rd XI of most internationals teams.

 

[jnaveen1980]

yet no proof to back this - india has widest range of pitches = you mean your clubs literally have no money for a groundsman (hence bcci claims on its $$$ they generate + own are all lies) so team just play on it

2 if all sloggers can bat in Pakistan, why did australia fail soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo badly?



your as boring as the IPL, your making me fall asleep, im nodding off

Dude Cricviz generated a report on pitches on all countries. Pakistan is certifially has the lowest bounce. If you get bounced out by Nahid rana at mirpur imagine their game against bounce

 

[finalfantasy7]

That list is very very long lol let me make that clear. there is not a single pakistan player who would wlak into 2nd or 3rd XI of most internationals teams.

yet we slapped up australia first team and even sri lanka's

what are you on about

 

[finalfantasy7]

Dude Cricviz generated a report on pitches on all countries. Pakistan is certifially has the lowest bounce. If you get bounced out by Nahid rana at mirpur imagine their game against bounce

that wasnt pakistan first team now was it, you might as well list the cricviz report - if its true, most likely made up

 

[finalfantasy7]

Dude Cricviz generated a report on pitches on all countries. Pakistan is certifially has the lowest bounce. If you get bounced out by Nahid rana at mirpur imagine their game against bounce

when indian pitches currently par score is 220-240 - you've lost crediability havent you

 

[Major]

Dude Cricviz generated a report on pitches on all countries. Pakistan is certifially has the lowest bounce. If you get bounced out by Nahid rana at mirpur imagine their game against bounce

Interesting, do share this report if u get the time bro.

 

[jnaveen1980]

that wasnt pakistan first team now was it, you might as well list the cricviz report - if its true, most likely made up

Okay your first team is babar, rizwan hahaha. Who is your first team when everybody is crap

 

[jnaveen1980]

Interesting, do share this report if u get the time bro.

Pakistan 33% bounce rating. Next is UAE 45% bouce.

 

[sweep_shot]

IPL is an Indian product made for only Indian fans to watch and comment on it...... The same Indians who troll and destroy PSL and Pakistan....... while fans from Pakistan should not be allowed to be critical of IPL.

These low-IQ sanghis need to understand we don't need permissions from them to criticize India or IPL.

IPL is rubbish. That's a fact.

 

[sithb]

These low-IQ sanghis need to understand we don't need permissions from them to criticize India or IPL.

IPL is rubbish. That's a fact.

And you guys still need bcci money for your board to function.

Get back of the line again.

 

[RahulBose]

These low-IQ sanghis need to understand we don't need permissions from them to criticize India or IPL.

IPL is rubbish. That's a fact.

And on what tangible metric are you stating that fact on? Or are you selling your hopes and dreams as facts.

 

[finalfantasy7]

Okay your first team is babar, rizwan hahaha. Who is your first team when everybody is crap

when did rizwan play in the first team in the world cup just past ???

 

[finalfantasy7]

Pakistan 33% bounce rating. Next is UAE 45% bouce.

have you gone full retarded, why are you just posting numbers and not articles

looks like you cant come back from being fully retarded

 

[jnaveen1980]

when indian pitches currently par score is 220-240 - you've lost crediability havent you

That is because INdians play short balls far better than y our entire Pakistan line up lol

 

[jnaveen1980]

when did rizwan play in the first team in the world cup just past ???

We saw Babar for sure in your first team lol Give us your first team and their career record.

 

[finalfantasy7]

We saw Babar for sure in your first team lol Give us your first team and their career record.

yet you wrote babar and rizwan was part of pakistan first team and i said to you rizwan wasnt and that your wrong

yet again your not comprehending your own words

 

[finalfantasy7]

That is because INdians play short balls far better than y our entire Pakistan line up lol

no, it was because the pitches were flat, hence you cant even show me any commentator stating the indian pitches had bounce

yet again your not comprehending your own words AGAIN

 

[finalfantasy7]

Pakistan 33% bounce rating. Next is UAE 45% bouce.

when are you going to add the article stating the above, im waititng, yet again

why dont you ask george dobell - i bet he says thats a lie = the lie is form a indian source

 

[jnaveen1980]

no, it was because the pitches were flat, hence you cant even show me any commentator stating the indian pitches had bounce

yet again your not comprehending your own words AGAIN

Need you to visit PP thread from 2019

Thread 'Why are Pakistani batsmen so poor against bounce?'

May 31, 2019

Top 6 dismissals for Pakistan

Short, Short, Short, Shortish, Shortish & Short.

How does this happen.

• Sycamore
• Replies: 92
• Forum: Cricket

 

[finalfantasy7]

Need you to visit PP thread from 2019

Thread 'Why are Pakistani batsmen so poor against bounce?'

May 31, 2019

Top 6 dismissals for Pakistan

Short, Short, Short, Shortish, Shortish & Short.

How does this happen.

• Sycamore
• Replies: 92
• Forum: Cricket

does that prove that the indian pitches were bouncier than the sri lankans ones = noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Mesozoic]

Pakistanis should stick to watching their inferior low quality league PSL instead of moaning about the IPL being "boring".

They remind me of those loser impotent incels who make fun of those who get the ladies just to cover up their own insecurities.

Pathetic to be honest ..

 

[sweep_shot]

IPL is a disgrace to cricket.

IPL is comparable to OnlyFans.

 

[jnaveen1980]

does that prove that the indian pitches were bouncier than the sri lankans ones = noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

They are lol where were you When Burger, Moshin, Shami bouncing at throat height few daysback

 

[Mesozoic]

IPL is a disgrace to cricket.

IPL is comparable to OnlyFans.

By that logic PSL and BPL are comparable to cheap village brothels.

 

[jnaveen1980]

have you gone full retarded, why are you just posting numbers and not articles

looks like you cant come back from being fully retarded

I have shared it atleast 5 times on this forum. Google and search or atleast do a google search.

 

[finalfantasy7]

They are lol where were you When Burger, Moshin, Shami bouncing at throat height few daysback

show me the proooooooooooof, i keep asking this question, show me the data fro this yr competition

i dont wanna see old data - just the stats for this yr t20 cup whch has just passed

 

[finalfantasy7]

I have shared it atleast 5 times on this forum. Google and search or atleast do a google search.

then just share it with me

ive searched for it on google - nothing came up

show me the data for last yr and this yr, i dont care what happened 5 yr ago - because pitches can be altered - you indians know this and you always dig them up and cheat

 

[finalfantasy7]

Pakistanis should stick to watching their inferior low quality league PSL instead of moaning about the IPL being "boring".

They remind me of those loser impotent incels who make fun of those who get the ladies just to cover up their own insecurities.

Pathetic to be honest ..

you need to stop looking at your sister

 

[finalfantasy7]

Pakistan 33% bounce rating. Next is UAE 45% bouce.

ive asked 3 times now, show me the proooooooooooooof

 

[jnaveen1980]

then just share it with me

ive searched for it on google - nothing came up

show me the data for last yr and this yr, i dont care what happened 5 yr ago - because pitches can be altered - you indians know this and you always dig them up and cheat

If you can't search pitchviz and you can't find one article then you are stuck in 17th century lol. Infact most of the time it is the pakistan fans that shared this pitchviz on reddit shared their concerns about Pakistan batting against boucners.

 

[jnaveen1980]

show me the proooooooooooof, i keep asking this question, show me the data fro this yr competition

i dont wanna see old data - just the stats for this yr t20 cup whch has just passed

You just need two eyes to see the bounce lol You don't need data.

 

[finalfantasy7]

If you can't search pitchviz and you can't find one article then you are stuck in 17th century lol. Infact most of the time it is the pakistan fans that shared this pitchviz on reddit shared their concerns about Pakistan batting against boucners.

yout cant show me the data, can you

you like to make up lies dont you

 

[finalfantasy7]

You just need two eyes to see the bounce lol You don't need data.

you do because you stated some fake numbers for pakistan and uae, how would your eyes acknowledge what is deemed as a bouncy pitch, considering you provided those fake numbers - which means thrs a certain point which is deemd as pitch has bounce in it

if thr s a certain height and the ball is 1cm under it - your eyes wont always pick this up,

hence we use proper data shown by crediable data analysts, from a camera which has been checked

not like in india where your speed guns are cheap and crap - shows fake data - i.e sharma bowling at 95mph = do you remember that, typical indian

 

[finalfantasy7]

Interesting, do share this report if u get the time bro.

@jnaveen1980 its not just me asking for this report


SHOW US THE REPORT / DATA

 

[finalfantasy7]

Was reading somewhere that India's recent T-20 WC win was not really celebrated with that much fanfare or celebration in India in comparison to the 2011 ODI WC Win and T-20 2024 WC win. Even the Indians are getting bored of India's one sided dominance over the rest of the cricket world. Its time for the other countries to step up.

@jnaveen1980 @nish_mate - is he lying

 

[jnaveen1980]

you do because you stated some fake numbers for pakistan and uae, how would your eyes acknowledge what is deemed as a bouncy pitch, considering you provided those fake numbers - which means thrs a certain point which is deemd as pitch has bounce in it

if thr s a certain height and the ball is 1cm under it - your eyes wont always pick this up,

hence we use proper data shown by crediable data analysts, from a camera which has been checked

not like in india where your speed guns are cheap and crap - shows fake data - i.e sharma bowling at 95mph = do you remember that, typical indian

Fake numbers? If you cannot comprehend data analysis just exclude yousrelf from the conversation. Apparently it is way way over your head. I can understand. Not many in the world can get a grasp of it. NO shame in you being part of that group. If you talk like Trump calling everything is fake then people will laugh at you and move on.

 

[finalfantasy7]

Fake numbers? If you cannot comprehend data analysis just exclude yousrelf from the conversation. Apparently it is way way over your head. I can understand. Not many in the world can get a grasp of it. NO shame in you being part of that group. If you talk like Trump calling everything is fake then people will laugh at you and move on.

stop running away - stop with your conspiracy theories,


just show me the data which proves the 515m views, thats all i want,

like ive explained to you - india doesnt use any regulators - so data can be easily made up, 500m peoplein india dont even own a tv, never mind a toilet

bengalis are not watching it, the sri lankans are not populated enough, the english are not warching it, as games are on whilst we are still at work - no work place allows us to have a t.v - when england international world cup gaems are on - they just provide a small tv in the canteen for usonly to watch it on lunch break

pakistan is not watching it, aussies are not - thr asleep when the game is on, windies are not, s africians are at work when the match is on


can it be the illegal indian bookies watching it - is that wre the numbers are from