Jibran Nasir - Discussion Thread

[Angrez Pakistani]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All FB pgs posting memes to show their support I request you to please have some regards for the values our workers have risked their lives for. We dont make personal attacks on politicians and draw parallels using demeaning language. We condemn such posts and request removal</p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1021700770419355648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"He has refrained from slinging insults and abuse at his opponents. He has also not used the religion card like many other politicians who in a bid to garner support from the religious right forge agreements with banned groups." <a href="https://t.co/LPZi7oxC4h">https://t.co/LPZi7oxC4h</a></p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1021704117528485888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The power of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Aik?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Aik</a> Awam. Despite threats, thousands came out to support their candidate for NA-247and PS-111. Aap ka Numainda, Aap mein se <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Aik?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Aik</a> <a href="https://t.co/DMoXyt0k59">pic.twitter.com/DMoXyt0k59</a></p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1021829867904684032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Musakhel]

Why would you consider voting for extremists?

Because my opinions are what mainstream society would label 'extreme'.

 

[DeadBall]

Because my opinions are what mainstream society would label 'extreme'.

So you're an extremist? Why don't you go and join your beloved Rizwi instead of giving your opinions from the UK?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yeah, Liberals are clueless but Mr IK and all conservatives are king of politics. His whole party is filled with same lotas who he himself said are epicenter of all things corruption. His stance of corruption is a joke, if you are part of my party, you are not corruption...Now he is in bed with same Army and Agencies he used to despise. After 20 years, he has compromised on everything he stood for, you are right, this is called Politics, that's exactly what NS was back in 1980s, he is NS of this time, who is ready to compromise anything to get to the Premiership

Because he believes in God he is conservative? lol He is the opposite of this as conservatives do not like change and what to stick to old, tired views. IK talks about change on every occasion. Please do not let your hatred of religion and God allow you to ruin your 'credibility' in such discussions. As for Lota's , it was a master stroke making them shift alliances and getting them to change their behaviour, if they dont IK will get rid of them with charges if required because once he's PM it wont matter as much if they are no longer around.

I assume you class yourself as a liberal? lol. True liberals dont hate on anyone inc those who follow or accept religion. The fake liberals just use this label to portray themselves as some enlightened, kind bunch when in reality they are just a bunch of whiners with no understanding of the world.

When it comes to law and order, What Army and their mouth pieces have solved in last 40 years?? - What Pakistan has achieved by continue to invest in religious extremism. Even a stupid person knows, I don't have to start a bomb factory in my house, which my kids live everyday. Pakistan Army has done exactly that, made Pakistan a terror producing factory, its not an export business(although that's what they sell to masses, we will win Kashmir and what not with this factory), mainly it has exploded inside the country. Now Army sells this law and order both internally and externally, and feed itself. There pitch is "I am the only one who can deal with these problems, you better keep me employed". You are hiring same criminal who created the mess in the first place. We talk about corrupt politicians are not going to curb corruption, but how can a Army with history messing up country's law and order, making it hub for extremist, will get rid of them?

Do you see Nato invading Pakistan as they done in Iraq, Libya? It's Nato who are the terrorists, who came to the neighborhood and since their arrival bomb attacks became the norm. There were no suicide bombings in Pakistan prior to state terrorists arriving in the region, this should give you a clue? But these fake liberals never call invaders from far away lands terrorists.

They are the problem, not the solutions, keep giving them more power, you will get even worst results. We have yet to see any results in last 4 decades. But what the Liberals know, they are clueless, its better to through them out...That is what Army has been doing, by wiping out left, what are the results?? - You are getting more extremist and poor society, good luck with you master planner

The Army is there for the protection of the state which is the no.1 priority of any nation. The fake liberals hate the Pak army because they cant stand seeing it standing while all other Muslim nations have no real army or strength in the military apart from Turkey. Fake liberals want nations who follow religion to be doomed.

Get rid of the fake and be a real liberal.

 

[sjahmed23]

Lmaoo. Honestly I wouldn't mind though but lol at face of Karachi. He won't get more than a couple of thousand votes even in a dream scenario and it's primarily burgers of defence who will vote him. Also you can thank IK for actually getting these people interested in politics in the first place

Times have changed, people are more aware and people should not give credit to Imran Khan for that, they should give credit to their cell phones and social media platforms like facebook which is mobilising people like never before. New generation is all on social media looking at who does what.

Yes he won't get more than a thousand votes but it's a start, where else in Pakistan do you see millennials talking about social issues and running for elections on issues they believe in?

 

[sjahmed23]

To add to my point, it even took Imran Khan 23 years to get to where he is, how badly did he lose those first elections?

 

[Pakistanian]

To add to my point, it even took Imran Khan 23 years to get to where he is, how badly did he lose those first elections?

This guy is 31, he's a millennial albeit a little older for one and he has plenty of time to become a successful politician. However Pakistan is very dangerous and I hope no extremist tries to take him out.

 

[SAF]

The funniest part for me was when with his 400 votes (maybe even less), Jibran Nasir stood for the people of Karachi against rigging in the then NA-250 as if he was the one who was cheated out of the seat

I hate this type of mentality in Pakistanis. At least he has STOOD UP for what’s wrong.

What have you done?

 

[saeedhk]

The funniest part for me was when with his 400 votes (maybe even less), Jibran Nasir stood for the people of Karachi against rigging in the then NA-250 as if he was the one who was cheated out of the seat

This sums up why Pakistani society is in such a mess! For you, people should not stand up for injustice if it does not impact them or if they are not at the receiving end of injustice. People should just ignore injustice and oppression and go on with their lives. Wow! Amazing mindset.

 

[Musakhel]

So you're an extremist? Why don't you go and join your beloved Rizwi instead of giving your opinions from the UK?

If Rizvi is an extreamist than why is he allowed to stand for elections? And having different views to mainstream society makes you an extreamist? lol.

I actually became a fan of rizvi before he entered politics he is a good orator.

But I would not vote for His party because I don't believe Religous leaders should enter politics, but that's just my personal opinion.

 

[Major]

The funniest part for me was when with his 400 votes (maybe even less), Jibran Nasir stood for the people of Karachi against rigging in the then NA-250 as if he was the one who was cheated out of the seat

wow, so standing agaisnt injustice even if you are little is a funny thing....

 

[InziRules]

I hope no one wasted their vote on him

 

[Major]

Jibran Nasir's camp in Delhi Colony vandalised

 

[Major]

He organized the protest against Aziza K in 2014 after Peshawar, and got a case registered against that thing despite all sorts of legal hurdles and threats to his life. Of course the case came to naught, which speaks volumes about our mollycoddling of the maulvi, which subsequent events have only amplified. One of Jibran's sidekicks was assassinated later, and I fear for his life too.

and yet there are people on this forum who think that voting for this guy is wasting their vote.

Pathetic

 

[Loralai]

and yet there are people on this forum who think that voting for this guy is wasting their vote.

Pathetic

Even worse, there are those who would rather vote for Tehreek Labbaik

 

[InziRules]

and yet there are people on this forum who think that voting for this guy is wasting their vote.

Pathetic

Yes, it's a waste. He won't be in government, him even somehow getting elected won't change anything. This is not what elections are for

 

[Major]

Yes, it's a waste. He won't be in government, him even somehow getting elected won't change anything. This is not what elections are for

A vote not being cast is a wasted vote. A vote that is cast even to a minority group is not a wasted one.

It shows the result of his campaign, how much support he was able to gather, and how he could improve in future.

Didn't Imran Khan suck at the time when he first stood? Does that mean at that time people wasted their votes on him?
ANd now look, hes on the verge of becoming PM

 

[InziRules]

A vote not being cast is a wasted vote. A vote that is cast even to a minority group is not a wasted one.

It shows the result of his campaign, how much support he was able to gather, and how he could improve in future.

Didn't Imran Khan suck at the time when he first stood? Does that mean at that time people wasted their votes on him?
ANd now look, hes on the verge of becoming PM

There was no alternative that was different. This time, there is.

 

[Loralai]

Yes, it's a waste. He won't be in government, him even somehow getting elected won't change anything. This is not what elections are for

He wants to bring change and to build a better, more equal and fairer country? Is that not what elections are for?

Would you rather vote for MMA, TLP, AAT, ASWJ candidates?

 

[Major]

Yes, it's a waste. He won't be in government, him even somehow getting elected won't change anything. This is not what elections are for

bro, an MNA and MPA's job is to pressurize the local govt in to making a particular thing happen. An MPA or MNA represents a whole constituency and acts as the voice.


Out of all the candidates that i have seen, this guy has actually acted like a voice for people. Some of the cases he took and the campainges he ran showed he could be a voice.


From 21 carore awaam, it was this guy who stood outside Lal Masjid when that terrorist cleric said crap about the APS attack being a good omen.

 

[InziRules]

Lal Masjid people were right, as shown by Ahmedis having all the money and getting to make laws calling them Muslim, until Khadim stood up

 

[Loralai]

Lal Masjid people were right, as shown by Ahmedis having all the money and getting to make laws calling them Muslim, until Khadim stood up

Please explain how Lal Masjid people were right?

Please explain how Ahmadis have all the money? Please explain which laws you are referring to - in so far as I am aware, there are no laws which allow Ahmadis to identify as Muslim and they can be punished with up to three years jailtime for doing so.

Please explain how Khadim stood up? By blocking traffic and preventing a young boy from reaching hospital when he was seriously ill? Is this what the Prophet SAW teaches?

 

[InziRules]

Please explain how Lal Masjid people were right?

Please explain how Ahmadis have all the money? Please explain which laws you are referring to - in so far as I am aware, there are no laws which allow Ahmadis to identify as Muslim and they can be punished with up to three years jailtime for doing so.

Please explain how Khadim stood up? By blocking traffic and preventing a young boy from reaching hospital when he was seriously ill? Is this what the Prophet SAW teaches?

https://www.urduweb.org/mehfil/thre...the-operation-itself-and-the-aftermath.63058/

Here is a good analysis.

Who owns Shezan? Many factories of Packages? The law they tried to pass which Rizwi Saheb stopped them from passing.

 

[Major]

https://www.urduweb.org/mehfil/thre...the-operation-itself-and-the-aftermath.63058/

Here is a good analysis.

Who owns Shezan? Many factories of Packages? The law they tried to pass which Rizwi Saheb stopped them from passing.

so owning Shezad company is haram?


Im guessing this guy is one of those who probably goes around telling others dont drink shezad products due to it being owned by an Ahmadi......

lagay raho bhai, lagay raho!

 

[InziRules]

so owning Shezad company is haram?


Im guessing this guy is one of those who probably goes around telling others dont drink shezad products due to it being owned by an Ahmadi......

lagay raho bhai, lagay raho!

Read the link.

 

[Loralai]

https://www.urduweb.org/mehfil/thre...the-operation-itself-and-the-aftermath.63058/

Here is a good analysis.

Who owns Shezan? Many factories of Packages? The law they tried to pass which Rizwi Saheb stopped them from passing.

Once again, please explain which law you are referring to.

Rizvi is an extremist who should be behind bars.

 

[Loralai]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">&#55357;&#56908;&#55356;&#57340;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/forthepeoplebythepeople?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#forthepeoplebythepeople</a> <a href="https://t.co/rOhnzLyNYp">https://t.co/rOhnzLyNYp</a></p>— Mahira Khan (@TheMahiraKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMahiraKhan/status/1013373402097340418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 1, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Note : Please use legitimate sources

 

[DRsohail]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Earlier today at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Delhi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Delhi</a> Colony during polling several members of a outfit started chanting "Qadiani Haray Ga" at me and then suddenly a 7 year old appeared on a bicycle seeing me blowing kisses at the group and he screamed "Jibran Nasir Jeetay Ga" without an iota of fear. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Future?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Future</a> <a href="https://t.co/9rCN8rzjTb">pic.twitter.com/9rCN8rzjTb</a></p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1022214310163087360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Greenstorm]

I can see him becoming a key national political figure in Pakistan in about 10 years time. PPP is almost finished(they will not form government in 2023). We are also witnessing the end of PML N in this election. A new political force is bound to emerge and the way social media is gaining popularity in Pakistan, specially among the youth who form majority of our population, people like him can gain popularity in the future.

 

[InziRules]

Humiliated from his seat. No vision and no Manifesto other than self promotion. Deserved.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Humiliated from his seat. No vision and no Manifesto other than self promotion. Deserved.

How many votes did he get?
[MENTION=142317]Loralai[/MENTION] is awfully quite now

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Jibran will become big within the next 10 years, I reckon.

 

[Loralai]

How many votes did he get?

[MENTION=142317]Loralai[/MENTION] is awfully quite now

Extremely proud and satisfied with Jibran's efforts to lead a campaign based on social justice and equality. With people like Jibran, we know there can be a bright future in store for Pakistan.

 

[Major]

Humiliated from his seat. No vision and no Manifesto other than self promotion. Deserved.

Did u even read his manifesto? It was voted as one of the best in pakistan

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Extremely proud and satisfied with Jibran's efforts to lead a campaign based on social justice and equality. With people like Jibran, we know there can be a bright future in store for Pakistan.

Could you kindly provide how many votes He got?

 

[Major]

Only official results we have for #NA247 and #PS111 so far
NA (Form 45)
Booths: 39/240
Total Votes for
Bat: 16188
Book: 3874
Loudspeaker: 2579
Kite: 2037
Arrow: 1770

PS(Form 45)
Booths : 35/80
Bat: 13324
Loudspeaker: 3129
Book: 2888
Arrow: 2428


from his fb page


dint do too bad. Hope he continues fighting for awaam

 

[InziRules]

Humiliating loss, even on this biased result he's posted (MQM is ahead of him)

 

[enkidu_]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congratulations to <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PTIofficial</a> on securing maximum seats in NA. I wish <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a> & all Parliamentarians the very best. May they serve Pakistan to their best potential and will fully support <a href="https://twitter.com/ArifAlvi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArifAlvi</a> (NA247) & <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranIsmailPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranIsmailPTI</a> (PS111) in all good measures for our constituency</p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1022497327246925824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[InziRules]

Wow, if he cared so much, he wouldn't have run.

 

[Loralai]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congratulations to <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PTIofficial</a> on securing maximum seats in NA. I wish <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a> & all Parliamentarians the very best. May they serve Pakistan to their best potential and will fully support <a href="https://twitter.com/ArifAlvi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArifAlvi</a> (NA247) & <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranIsmailPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranIsmailPTI</a> (PS111) in all good measures for our constituency</p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1022497327246925824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Jibran is class as always.

Future of Pakistan is bright because of people like JIbran.

 

[Waseem]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congratulations to <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PTIofficial</a> on securing maximum seats in NA. I wish <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a> & all Parliamentarians the very best. May they serve Pakistan to their best potential and will fully support <a href="https://twitter.com/ArifAlvi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArifAlvi</a> (NA247) & <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranIsmailPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranIsmailPTI</a> (PS111) in all good measures for our constituency</p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1022497327246925824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Great message from him and showing good spirit as well.

To be honest, i never expected more than few thousands for him so well expected result.

Let's see if he sticks around to continue his politics (forming party i believe).

 

[Slog]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congratulations to <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PTIofficial</a> on securing maximum seats in NA. I wish <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a> & all Parliamentarians the very best. May they serve Pakistan to their best potential and will fully support <a href="https://twitter.com/ArifAlvi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArifAlvi</a> (NA247) & <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranIsmailPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranIsmailPTI</a> (PS111) in all good measures for our constituency</p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1022497327246925824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Obviously he is going to say this now

Anyways well done. Always good to see educated people involved

 

[Major]

Obviously he is going to say this now

Anyways well done. Always good to see educated people involved

As usual typical from u.

Plz go on his page and watch his campaignes. He formally met and shook hands of his oppositions and said good luck.

He wasnt involved in personal attacks amd was quite diplomatic with his oppositions

 

[Major]

Wow, if he cared so much, he wouldn't have run.

? So wait u want him to.personal attack everyone because he lost.

Obviously ur problem.is his support for a paticular minority

 

[Slog]

? So wait u want him to.personal attack everyone because he lost.

Obviously ur problem.is his support for a paticular minority

Don't go around assuming things lol

He's too much of an attention seeker and unnecessarily seeks trouble and proves atom to get in news. That annoys me.

But as I said nice to see him involved. He does a good job of riding off the coat tails of media attention despite no significant vote bank

 

[DRsohail]

how many votes he got.

 

[SAF]

how many votes he got.

I believe over 6k.

 

[DRsohail]

i believe over 6k.

not bad,'it shows he ia at least have 6k followers.

 

[hussain.r97]

I'm honestly a bit sad he lost the PS seat, I think he would have done an outstanding job in the assembly, and it would have given him a platform to launch his own party. I wish him the best of luck, maybe he can do it next time.

 

[Loralai]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dear All I will be going live on Twitter and Facebook today at 7.30pm to make important announcements for the way forward. The elections have ended and our journey has just begun.</p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1022783400976035840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Badsha]

Jibran is class as always.

Future of Pakistan is bright because of people like JIbran.

Class? All till elections he called Pti useles and extremist and now acting classy?

Seriously this guy is a total fraud can’t believe people fall for him so easily. Our “educated” awaam is so dumb sometimes

 

[slipcatch]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Earlier today at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Delhi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Delhi</a> Colony during polling several members of a outfit started chanting "Qadiani Haray Ga" at me and then suddenly a 7 year old appeared on a bicycle seeing me blowing kisses at the group and he screamed "Jibran Nasir Jeetay Ga" without an iota of fear. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Future?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Future</a> <a href="https://t.co/9rCN8rzjTb">pic.twitter.com/9rCN8rzjTb</a></p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1022214310163087360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Great vision, he will be successful and he will be a key player in changing Pakistan for the better.

My only dislike about him is his approach, you can't blow kisses on the streets. If you want to be a leader you have to learn how to bring people on your side regardless of how they behave, this middle school childish way to response isn't going to work for long.

Similar to when he tried to block a motorcade of a judge, if he were to do the same in any western country he would have been fined or jailed.

 

[Azmi]

Class? All till elections he called Pti useles and extremist and now acting classy?

Seriously this guy is a total fraud can’t believe people fall for him so easily. Our “educated” awaam is so dumb sometimes

It is PTI's members who have been going to Banned terrorist outfits and asking for their blessings. And Imran Khan is so much Phatoo that the could not even control his own members.

Actually, it is much worse. Imran Khan raised not a single voice against the Establishment for going against the law, and allowing the terrorist outfits to participate in the elections and to release their frozen funds.

Pakistan is in danger of landing in the black list due to this madness.

Therefore, I wonder how dumb are the educated supporters of Imran Khan?

Only person who protested against it at full voice, was Jibran Nasir.

Hats off to you Sir.

 

[Loralai]

Jibran is a lawyer

 

[Major]

Don't you think that it is Imran Khan who is Phatoo, and the educated supporters of Imran Khan are so dumb to not see it?

It is PTI's members who have been going to Banned terrorist outfits and asking for their blessings. And Imran Khan is so much Phatoo that the could not even control his own members.

Actually, it is much worse. Imran Khan raised not a single voice against the Establishment for going against the law, and allowing the terrorist outfits to participate in the elections and to release their frozen funds.

Pakistan is in danger of landing in the black list due to this madness.

Therefore, I wonder how dumb are the educated supporters of Imran Khan?

Only person who protested against it at full voice, was Jibran Nasir.

Hats off to you Sir.

top post!

Its funny hhwo people cal Jibran a coward, when this is the guy who took a stand against my things that other politicians are scared off.

Imran doesn't have the guts for standing up for the Ahmadis, this guy did.

 

[Loralai]

top post!

Its funny hhwo people cal Jibran a coward, when this is the guy who took a stand against my things that other politicians are scared off.

Imran doesn't have the guts for standing up for the Ahmadis, this guy did.

When will we see Imran standing up for the rights of all Pakistanis, regardless of ethnicity or religion? I don't think its very likely.

People condemning JN but at the same time quiet on Imrans exploitation of religious issues...

 

[slipcatch]

top post!

Its funny hhwo people cal Jibran a coward, when this is the guy who took a stand against my things that other politicians are scared off.

Imran doesn't have the guts for standing up for the Ahmadis, this guy did.

Approach matters with in the context of how to deal with each situation.

And if you can't comprehend then you resort to name calling, similar to those who are ignorant.

If you believe one will start with Ahmadi's issue and then rest to solve the Ahmadi's issue then you have missed the boat completely.

 

[Greenstorm]

top post!

Its funny hhwo people cal Jibran a coward, when this is the guy who took a stand against my things that other politicians are scared off.

Imran doesn't have the guts for standing up for the Ahmadis, this guy did.

When will we see Imran standing up for the rights of all Pakistanis, regardless of ethnicity or religion? I don't think its very likely.

People condemning JN but at the same time quiet on Imrans exploitation of religious issues...

Ensuring free and quality education, proper health facilities, corruption-free institutions, reforms in police, reforms in tax collection, job creation and alleviation of masses from poverty was the agenda of Imran Khan and these things are far more important than just standing in streets and chanting for rights of minority to get some attention. If Imran really wanted to exploit religious issues, he could have ended PMLN's government when TLY were in Islamabad but he instead he remained neutral.

Jibran Nasir should be praised for his efforts to raise voice for minorities but he should focus more on important issues that effect day to day lives of ordinary Pakistanis. Only then, large number of people will vote for him. Otherwise, he will remain a social media celebrity and will not be able to bring change at a grand scale.

 

[Major]

Ensuring free and quality education, proper health facilities, corruption-free institutions, reforms in police, reforms in tax collection, job creation and alleviation of masses from poverty was the agenda of Imran Khan and these things are far more important than just standing in streets and chanting for rights of minority to get some attention. If Imran really wanted to exploit religious issues, he could have ended PMLN's government when TLY were in Islamabad but he instead he remained neutral.

Jibran Nasir should be praised for his efforts to raise voice for minorities but he should focus more on important issues that effect day to day lives of ordinary Pakistanis. Only then, large number of people will vote for him. Otherwise, he will remain a social media celebrity and will not be able to bring change at a grand scale.

PTI's reforms mean nothing until they get a majority in senate or start negotiating coalitions with PPP

 

[Greenstorm]

PTI's reforms mean nothing until they get a majority in senate or start negotiating coalitions with PPP

Atleast PTI is in a position to do something. Also it is ironic that you bash Imran for not standing for minorities while you, if I am not wrong, is a PPP supporter whose founder passed all these legislation against Ahmedis.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Atleast PTI is in a position to do something. Also it is ironic that you bash Imran for not standing for minorities while you, if I am not wrong, is a PPP supporter whose founder passed all these legislation against Ahmedis.

To be fair, he only declared us non-Muslims. It was Zia who passed subsequent legislations, but I agree that Bhutto opened the floodgates of bigotry even before the assendence of Zia into power.

 

[Loralai]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We've launched a social movement "Aik Awam Movement" which will work on our campaign promises across Pak starting with Khi working for all citizens regardless of their political affiliation. The same will lay foundations for a new political party in future <a href="https://t.co/nMowZFkQGZ">https://t.co/nMowZFkQGZ</a></p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1022872830818562048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We've launched a social movement "Aik Awam Movement" which will work on our campaign promises across Pak starting with Khi working for all citizens regardless of their political affiliation. The same will lay foundations for a new political party in future <a href="https://t.co/nMowZFkQGZ">https://t.co/nMowZFkQGZ</a></p>— M. Jibran Nasir (@MJibranNasir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJibranNasir/status/1022872830818562048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That’s how organic politics work!

 

[Badsha]

It's actually his holier than thou attitude that is so off putting. Imran Khan was also guilty of this a bit in his very early days as a politician but let's not compare Imran Khan to Jibran Nasir who can't even lead a proper vote bank let alone a political party to victory.

Anyway I hope this embarrassing loss humbles him

 

[Badsha]

That’s how organic politics work!

Not by bad mouthing parties on facebook and blowing kisses to haters like a child. The guy needs to mature. One good quality of his stance on blasphemy laws means nothing. I know you are thinking from a biased mind as he is good for your religion but think logically.

In the end, the true fight is making Pakistan an educated nation. Tell me how he can make Pakistan an educated nation?

 

[Loralai]

It's actually his holier than thou attitude that is so off putting. Imran Khan was also guilty of this a bit in his very early days as a politician but let's not compare Imran Khan to Jibran Nasir who can't even lead a proper vote bank let alone a political party to victory.

Anyway I hope this embarrassing loss humbles him

Yes lets hope instead he surrounds himself with electables and gets military backing.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

It's actually his holier than thou attitude that is so off putting. Imran Khan was also guilty of this a bit in his very early days as a politician but let's not compare Imran Khan to Jibran Nasir who can't even lead a proper vote bank let alone a political party to victory.

Anyway I hope this embarrassing loss humbles him

Tell me this thing, are you a troll or just a wilful ignorant? You don’t want to compare JN with IK but you want to conveniently omit the fact that it took more than 20 years for IK to run a successful political campaign. You expect JN to get humbled by the defeat in this elections but you like IK who, after losing so many elections, is still not that much of a humble guy. You hate his holier than thou attitude but you can follow a guy who’s carved his niche in politics based only on this approach. JN is not perfect. No one is. But your criticism doesn’t hold enough water to survive the harshness of time.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Not by bad mouthing parties on facebook and blowing kisses to haters like a child. The guy needs to mature. One good quality of his stance on blasphemy laws means nothing. I know you are thinking from a biased mind as he is good for your religion but think logically.

In the end, the true fight is making Pakistan an educated nation. Tell me how he can make Pakistan an educated nation?

‘I know you are thinking from a biased mind’. Talk about Irony. ‘Tell me how he can make Pakistan an educated nation?’, sure man. You can make Pakistan educated by raising awareness among masses. You can raise awareness by raising your voice against injustice and can hope that there are enough people listening. You can educate people by imparting your values of common decency to them. You want me to think logically? How is it logical to support religious extremists and hope that people will get educated. You can not impart common decency by educating people in maths and science.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Not by bad mouthing parties on facebook and blowing kisses to haters like a child. The guy needs to mature. One good quality of his stance on blasphemy laws means nothing. I know you are thinking from a biased mind as he is good for your religion but think logically.

In the end, the true fight is making Pakistan an educated nation. Tell me how he can make Pakistan an educated nation?

‘Not by bad mouthing parties on Facebook and blowing kisses to haters like a child.’ Sure man, you can always have the option of calling everyone chor and lotera.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

‘Not by bad mouthing parties on Facebook and blowing kisses to haters like a child.’ Sure man, you can always have the option of calling everyone chor and lotera.

Calling people ‘khuuni liberals’ and ‘mombatti mafia’ can also and always work wonders!

 

[Badsha]

Tell me this thing, are you a troll or just a wilful ignorant? You don’t want to compare JN with IK but you want to conveniently omit the fact that it took more than 20 years for IK to run a successful political campaign. You expect JN to get humbled by the defeat in this elections but you like IK who, after losing so many elections, is still not that much of a humble guy. You hate his holier than thou attitude but you can follow a guy who’s carved his niche in politics based only on this approach. JN is not perfect. No one is. But your criticism doesn’t hold enough water to survive the harshness of time.

You are wrong about IK. IK has a holier than thou attitude because he can back it up. what has Jibran Khan done? Protesting against injustice is all good but has we captained an international team? Built a cancer hospital? Built a university? Okay he doesn't have the resources but IK also started from a similar background.

At least Jibran should work on these things and show us why we should believe in him. He has done nothing . Being educated and having a good stance regarding Ahmedis is not enough to be running a constituency. Pakistan has bigger issues and crises


"You can make Pakistan educated by raising awareness among masses. You can raise awareness by raising your voice against injustice and can hope that there are enough people listening."

You are really wrong here and I hope you see the proper way of educating people is not by preaching them.

Telling an extremist not to be an extremist achieves nothing until they learn it themselves. That happens through education. Making internet accessible to far reached areas of Pakistan, improving the education/economic system so students who do not pursue math/science can also excel in their fields and be parts of society, give access to books and resources for the poor from grass root level. That is the way.

‘I know you are thinking from a biased mind’. Talk about Irony. ‘Tell me how he can make Pakistan an educated nation?’, sure man. You can make Pakistan educated by raising awareness among masses. You can raise awareness by raising your voice against injustice and can hope that there are enough people listening. You can educate people by parting your values of common decency. You want me to think logically? How is it logical to support religious extremists and hope that people will get educated. You can not impart common decency by educating people in maths and science.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

You are wrong about IK. IK has a holier than thou attitude because he can back it up. what has Jibran Khan done? Protesting against injustice is all good but has we captained an international team? Built a cancer hospital? Built a university? Okay he doesn't have the resources but IK also started from a similar background.

At least Jibran should work on these things and show us why we should believe in him. He has done nothing . Being educated and having a good stance regarding Ahmedis is not enough to be running a constituency. Pakistan has bigger issues and crises


"You can make Pakistan educated by raising awareness among masses. You can raise awareness by raising your voice against injustice and can hope that there are enough people listening."

You are really wrong here and I hope you see the proper way of educating people is not by preaching them.

Telling an extremist not to be an extremist achieves nothing until they learn it themselves. That happens through education. Making internet accessible to far reached areas of Pakistan, improving the education/economic system so students who do not pursue math/science can also excel in their fields and be parts of society, give access to books and resources for the poor from grass root level. That is the way.

There’s no point in making internet far reaching if the only thing they learn from it is how to troll progressive voices and how to de-legitimise someone’s struggle for freedom of religion and human rights. You can’t educate people by preaching but you can educate people by your actions. He was offered to fight the case of Mumtaz Qadri and he flat out refused it. He led by the example of how to refuse fame if it means losing your core values. He educated people, not by highlighting himself, but by highlighting and fighting for an innocent man (mashal Khan). Imran had cricket as his platform to fight for his cause, I respect that, but Jibran only had his skills as a lawyer to fight for the poor and down trodden. You are right in saying that you can educate people by preaching, but you can educate people by your actions and Jibran Nasir have done it time and time again. Had it not been for him, Khadeeja stabbing case would’ve had no or very little media coverage. He filed a petition in the Supreme Court for the reformation of judicial process, specially focusing on the loopholes that are causing the delay in justice. You can only do so much as an individual and if you think that having a high self-esteem is equivalent to holier than thou attitude then there is no point in trying to explain my point of view to you.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Blowing kisses to crowd ..... what an immature twirp.

You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Even burgers will get tired of the staged managed videos...

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Blowing kisses to crowd ..... what an immature twirp.

You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Even burgers will get tired of the staged managed videos...

Was that supposed to mean something, or was it just your poor attempt at trolling? Wait a minute, are you just one of those conspiracy theory nuts?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Was that supposed to mean something, or was it just your poor attempt at trolling? Wait a minute, are you just one of those conspiracy theory nuts?

Read it again.... and in doing so also apply some grey matter between the ears.

If you still don't get it, let me know and I will explain.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Read it again.... and in doing so also apply some grey matter between the ears.

If you still don't get it, let me know and I will explain.

Sure man. I read your post again and it said ‘I cannot make a legitimate criticism against JN so I’m gonna start name calling him based on some idiotic conspiracy theory’. Didn’t make sense to me.

 

[Pakistanian]

Maybe if he put his ego away, he could work for Imran Khan.